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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" Because there's thousands of genuinely single blokes available. And they won't be clock watching to make sure the missus doesn't get suspcious by getting home late. | |||
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"take a guess ??? some women only like unattatched men ." too right. knife weilding mad wives tracking you down because its obviously all the other womans fault because she started it, is what you really want on a quiet night in | |||
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"My wife has ms so I thought this was an ideal way of meeting for nsa fun without getting the emoition pressure" hate to tell you this theres afew folks started out as singles on here and meet someone . also theres cpls split up due to one of them getting emotionally attached to another person and falling for them lol! you could end up falling head over heels for someone you happen to meet here .we never know whats around the corner and some will tell you for themselves | |||
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"Yes but as a fit horny 40 something Nsa fun should be the answer" or could be the start of a whole set of new problems for you .... its of course your choice alone what you wish to do with your marriage and if you are happy to risk loosing your wife when she finds out . | |||
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"I am sorry but when you meet someone often NSA becomes emotion based for one of the parties... " shhhhh!!! dont tell soapy and fuma that !! lol x | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" cos its a swinging site... i have been accused today of being moralistic about this, but i cant see what else i can say... swinging is about sexual openness and honesty, how does a married man playing away fit that? i want to meet great ppl, and share sexy fun times with them, not be a convenient hole for someone,i only think of part of what i do as swinging, but here is a brief glimpse... last weekend i was visiting friends, kev stayed home, they woke me with breakfast in bed then teased, delighted and stimulated my body, using a wand on me until i gushed. then we hung out, laughing ,chatting, relaxed and with no need to leave for an unsispecting partner to be got back to. Seriously what can you offer that beats that? As i have said many times before there are sites for married ppl to meet on, and escorts, both would seem a better idea to me if i were married and wanting to cheat. i am not even sure i am a swinger, but i do know i dont want to meet someone who brings that much baggage with them. | |||
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"My wife has ms so I thought this was an ideal way of meeting for nsa fun without getting the emoition pressure" i would consider visiting an escort, this isnt we fuxk any man .com | |||
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"So where the line between love and sex" if u have to ask, then imo swinging isnt for u | |||
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"Married men give the single guys on here a bad name for example timewasters can't accom etc etc If they said they were married on the profile then that's fine MF couple and single females stick to single guys only then you won't get let down! " sorry have to disagree here !!!its not the married guys giving single guys a bad name lol !!! i have had some very single guys who have let themselves down perfectly wit no help required !!! also plenty of people will be stood up by cpls ,single fems and single guys not only married guys !! its across all catitgories you get the idiots ,liers and no shows .not reserved just to one group . | |||
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"Yes but as a fit horny 40 something Nsa fun should be the answer" NO. The first answer should be........... communicate with your wife, her doctor etc and see if there is a solution to your needs. She's ill with MS. If she finds out you are cheating behind her back with women who openly shag around for their own enjoyment and that you have a profile on a swingers site...... ... I think who gets to keep the house will be the least of your problems. | |||
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"Yes but as a fit horny 40 something Nsa fun should be the answer NO. The first answer should be........... communicate with your wife, her doctor etc and see if there is a solution to your needs. She's ill with MS. If she finds out you are cheating behind her back with women who openly shag around for their own enjoyment and that you have a profile on a swingers site...... ... I think who gets to keep the house will be the least of your problems. " one of my parents best friends died of ms, i saw her as an auntie, i dont know what it would have done to her if she would have found her devoted hubby on here. and i know from getting pissed with mum that she was heartbroken about the fact their sex life ended, tbh i think if her husband had tried to talk to her about it she would have willingy given permission to visit sex workers. | |||
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" swinging is about sexual openness and honesty, how does a married man playing away fit that? " I personally, totally agree with that statement. If you get caught shagging ya secretary - its cheating. If you get caught getting a blow job from the moose behind the bar of your local, down a dark alley on a friday night - its called cheating. If you get caught knobing your sons PE teacher in a sleazy hotel on a Monday afternoon - it's called cheating. Just because a cheating someone (I include cheating males AND females in this) joins a swinging site, expecting a quick leg over because all swingers are sluts/male whores.......... does NOT make them a swinger. It still makes them a cheater ........ And we won't and don't entertain them. | |||
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" swinging is about sexual openness and honesty, how does a married man playing away fit that? I personally, totally agree with that statement. If you get caught shagging ya secretary - its cheating. If you get caught getting a blow job from the moose behind the bar of your local, down a dark alley on a friday night - its called cheating. If you get caught knobing your sons PE teacher in a sleazy hotel on a Monday afternoon - it's called cheating. Just because a cheating someone (I include cheating males AND females in this) joins a swinging site, expecting a quick leg over because all swingers are sluts/male whores.......... does NOT make them a swinger. It still makes them a cheater ........ And we won't and don't entertain them." i agree, how do i do a "like" symbol? | |||
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" swinging is about sexual openness and honesty, how does a married man playing away fit that? I personally, totally agree with that statement. If you get caught shagging ya secretary - its cheating. If you get caught getting a blow job from the moose behind the bar of your local, down a dark alley on a friday night - its called cheating. If you get caught knobing your sons PE teacher in a sleazy hotel on a Monday afternoon - it's called cheating. Just because a cheating someone (I include cheating males AND females in this) joins a swinging site, expecting a quick leg over because all swingers are sluts/male whores.......... does NOT make them a swinger. It still makes them a cheater ........ And we won't and don't entertain them. i agree, how do i do a "like" symbol?" its on the smileys at the bottom,but very pale,the very last one, a pink thumbs up | |||
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" swinging is about sexual openness and honesty, how does a married man playing away fit that? I personally, totally agree with that statement. If you get caught shagging ya secretary - its cheating. If you get caught getting a blow job from the moose behind the bar of your local, down a dark alley on a friday night - its called cheating. If you get caught knobing your sons PE teacher in a sleazy hotel on a Monday afternoon - it's called cheating. Just because a cheating someone (I include cheating males AND females in this) joins a swinging site, expecting a quick leg over because all swingers are sluts/male whores.......... does NOT make them a swinger. It still makes them a cheater ........ And we won't and don't entertain them. i agree, how do i do a "like" symbol? its on the smileys at the bottom,but very pale,the very last one, a pink thumbs up" | |||
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"Married men give the single guys on here a bad name for example timewasters can't accom etc etc If they said they were married on the profile then that's fine MF couple and single females stick to single guys only then you won't get let down! " They don't give single men a bad name. Not all couples and females stick to single men. | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here cos its a swinging site... i have been accused today of being moralistic about this, but i cant see what else i can say... ." I think that is because you bring up the subject when someone asks a different question. Obviously this thread asks the question. | |||
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"My wife has ms so I thought this was an ideal way of meeting for nsa fun without getting the emoition pressure" OMG!! This has got to be the worst thing iv seen on fab as if the poor woman isn't suffering enough !!!!! | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" cause most of us dont like shagging on a timer lol why would i want to meet a guy whos on limited time because hes got to get back to the wife before the pub shuts when i can meet a single guys whos got all night | |||
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"take a guess ??? some women only like unattatched men . too right. knife weilding mad wives tracking you down because its obviously all the other womans fault because she started it, is what you really want on a quiet night in " | |||
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"How would the OP feel if he had illness and his wife was on here having NSA?" | |||
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"My wife has ms so I thought this was an ideal way of meeting for nsa fun without getting the emoition pressure" If the OP had a illness, would he like the thought of his wife going out and having NSA? | |||
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"Adj. 1. cheating - not faithful to a spouse or lover By definition all swinging couples are therefore cheats. The difference is whether they know or not. Both my husband and I have profiles on here but we both know. " have to disagree, cheating by definition involves deception, many couples here play seperate, but with the full knowledge of their partner, no deception, so no cheating. | |||
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"personally i meet both married and single guys. i dont think just cos someone cant accom or only meet daytimes means they are married. i dont accom evenings or weekends as im a single mum. i prefer honesty and if its on the profile you can choose to meet or not. i had a guy recently cancel a meet cos he was married and couldnt do it. his profile said nothing he has left the site." thats my problem with married men if im going to be honest, they to un reliable, they are only on limited time as when they meet its usually while the wifes out with her mates or while they supposed to be else where so they have to be back at a certain time and when you do meet them hey're forever clock watching etc and so many cancel because they wifes not going out after all etc its just not worth the hassle may as well meet a single guys who has noone to answer to all whos time is his own, im not after afternoon quickies and men who run off mid shag cause his time is up | |||
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"ill only go from my reasons,others will vary im sure. 1 they dont accomm 2 difficult enough arranging meets due to work with out having to factor in when they can sneek out .even if wife knows still difficult as has to be when shes happy for him to meet . 3 i want someone whos focused on me during a meet ,not their mobile or clock watching . 4 majority of the time its behind wifes back and ive no wish to be envolved in ppls domestics or deceit .here for fun not helping others cheat on their spouse .certainly no wish to be there for the shit storm when they get found out . 5 this leads me to the trust issues ..if a guys decieving his own wife who ment to be closest person in his life .why on earth would they be honest and straight with me a total stranger 6 sites full of single guys who can meet when they want ,answer to no one ,accomm all night for long sessions so why complicate life !!! these as i say are why i personally choose not to meet married guys ." +1 | |||
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"ill only go from my reasons,others will vary im sure. 1 they dont accomm 2 difficult enough arranging meets due to work with out having to factor in when they can sneek out .even if wife knows still difficult as has to be when shes happy for him to meet . 3 i want someone whos focused on me during a meet ,not their mobile or clock watching . 4 majority of the time its behind wifes back and ive no wish to be envolved in ppls domestics or deceit .here for fun not helping others cheat on their spouse .certainly no wish to be there for the shit storm when they get found out . 5 this leads me to the trust issues ..if a guys decieving his own wife who ment to be closest person in his life .why on earth would they be honest and straight with me a total stranger 6 sites full of single guys who can meet whenthey want ,answer to no one ,accomm all night for long sessions so why complicate life !!! these as i say are why i personally choose not to meet married guys . +1 " +2 | |||
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"Adj. 1. cheating - not faithful to a spouse or lover By definition all swinging couples are therefore cheats. The difference is whether they know or not. Both my husband and I have profiles on here but we both know. have to disagree, cheating by definition involves deception, many couples here play seperate, but with the full knowledge of their partner, no deception, so no cheating." your so right .. loads of us here are and do our own thing and yes the other person know ... and i know some think what thay dont know will not hurt them and play away ... its not for us to tell others what thay can and cant do .. just for our own morels .. its there lifes and thay make there choices and people who dont like it dont have to meet them. Swinging sites are full of everything and we dont know the in s and outs of others lifes. | |||
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"My wife has ms so I thought this was an ideal way of meeting for nsa fun without getting the emoition pressure" Do you not think you should be devoting more time to your wife, rather than tryin to get a quick leg over. I have witnessed the distress that people go through with this illness and it is not pleasant. You have 2 hands use them! | |||
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"have to say the ops personal circumstances are irrelevent to me, whilst others find it worse i am sure every man or woman playing behind their partners back believes they are justified. Its why we specifically mention it on our profile." to be honest when guys mail me saying their wifes ill and just looking for something she can no longer offer him it does feel worse to me If a guys wifes in full health i sometimes think, well at least she could be doing this behind is back lol but the thought of fucking a guy while his mrs is ill in bed and at a point in her life where she needs him the most just feels so wrong, in every way, to me | |||
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"have to say the ops personal circumstances are irrelevent to me, whilst others find it worse i am sure every man or woman playing behind their partners back believes they are justified. Its why we specifically mention it on our profile. to be honest when guys mail me saying their wifes ill and just looking for something she canno longer offer him it does feel worse to me If a guys wifes in full health i sometimes think, well at least she could be doing this behind is back lol but the thought of fucking a guy while his mrs is ill in bed and at a point in her life where she needs him the most just feels so wrong, in every way, to me " +1 | |||
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"ill only go from my reasons,others will vary im sure. 1 they dont accomm 2 difficult enough arranging meets due to work with out having to factor in when they can sneek out .even if wife knows still difficult as has to be when shes happy for him to meet . 3 i want someone whos focused on me during a meet ,not their mobile or clock watching . 4 majority of the time its behind wifes back and ive no wish to be envolved in ppls domestics or deceit .here for fun not helping others cheat on their spouse .certainly no wish to be there for the shit storm when they get found out . 5 this leads me to the trust issues ..if a guys decieving his own wife who ment to be closest person in his life .why on earth would they be honest and straight with me a total stranger 6 sites full of single guys who can meet when they want ,answer to no one ,accomm all night for long sessions so why complicate life !!! these as i say are why i personally choose not to meet married guys ." ...what she said. | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .." supply and demand | |||
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"I have no idea why people are justifying why they don't meet married guys/females. if at 44 years of age and married, he must know in everyday life cheating is frowned upon. why would it be any different here." oh _iew you have no idea how this swinging lark works have you? Its because us women on here are just loose sluts who have no moral values and will fuck anyone so long as we're getting our own we dont care Stick with me kid i'll teach you the rules | |||
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" Stick with me kid i'll teach you the rules " cheers, you are kindness personified xx | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand " yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do . | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do ." Was just thinking the same . | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do ." true, but wether we agree with it or not theres arnt enough single women on here for people to be picky about such thing, so tho a lot dont agree with cheating if it means meeting a single female most will turn a blinde eye to it And i did say most, you have to cover your arse on here or everyone jumps on you | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do . Was just thinking the same ." more men are into skat...simple | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do ." . Would it be something to do with married ladies are more discreet, and seldom come into the forums to moan and groan about not being able to meet anyone? Just a thought. | |||
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" and seldom come into the forums to moan and groan about not being able to meet anyone? Just a thought. " yup but when they do... it is usually a great one. Unrivalled indignation that someone has dared to refuse to enter their jewelled encrusted Faberge egg like vagina. | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do . . Would it be something to do with married ladies are more discreet, and seldom come into the forums to moan and groan about not being able to meet anyone? Just a thought. " I think thay come in forums just not so open as loads of men mailing asking for sex so thay get to pick men dont have to ask like men do here and get fed up no meets. | |||
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" and seldom come into the forums to moan and groan about not being able to meet anyone? Just a thought. yup but when they do... it is usually a great one. Unrivalled indignation that someone has dared to refuse to enter their jewelled encrusted Faberge egg like vagina. " . True, however, that is more to do with their inner drama queen than being married, IMHO. May be they feel they have suffered long enough for being in a sexless and/or loveless relationship, and that they deserve better. Hence they are not good at handling rejections as they believe they are queen bees. | |||
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" and seldom come into the forums to moan and groan about not being able to meet anyone? Just a thought. yup but when they do... it is usually a great one. Unrivalled indignation that someone has dared to refuse to enter their jewelled encrusted Faberge egg like vagina. . True, however, that is more to do with their inner drama queen than being married, IMHO. May be they feel they have suffered long enough for being in a sexless and/or loveless relationship, and that they deserve better. Hence they are not good at handling rejections as they believe they are queen bees. " | |||
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" Its because us women on here are just loose sluts who have no moral values and will fuck anyone so long as we're getting our own we dont care " sad thing is i bet if if a survey was carried out just for male's then that would be a common perception for the majority.. however how many who may have a similar opinion of women (single / married etc) if asked 'would you?' would jump at the chance... we did receive an email from an obviously married guy who we asked 'would your wife like to play?'.. his answer was that 'it was not the sort of thing he would want her to do!'.. not sure how common that is.. different mindset in the 'vanilla' world.. | |||
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"How would the OP feel if he had illness and his wife was on here having NSA?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeAbgBPP_N4&feature=related Don't take your love to town. | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here Not sure if its as hard for married ladys with single profiles i bet thay get 100s Of offers .. supply and demand yes your right ... i just feel sorry for the men at times here ... you dont see the woman getting half the crap the men do . true, but wether we agree with it or not theres arnt enough single women on here for people to be picky about such thing, so tho a lot dont agree with cheating if it means meeting a single female most will turn a blinde eye to it And i did say most, you have to cover your arse on here or everyone jumps on you " | |||
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"I have no idea why people are justifying why they don't meet married guys/females. if at 44 years of age and married, he must know in everyday life cheating is frowned upon. why would it be any different here. oh _iew you have no idea how this swinging lark works have you? Its because us women on here are just loose sluts who have no moral values and will fuck anyone so long as we're getting our own we dont care Stick with me kid i'll teach you the rules " Oh bless him, I thought our View had it sussed by now. Never mind, always happy to offer advice, but Naughty has saved me the bother. | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" Cause they struggle ta find excuses time wise lol xx | |||
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"I prefer meets that are not rushed and being with a married man they would be clock watching. I also love my drama free life its great!! So if a wife was to find out that her husband had been shagging around and say my number was in his phone and she was phoning demanding to know how I lmet her husband I would want my pride intact not having to say yeah I met him on a sex site and shagged each other brains out while you was doing lunch.. Hence why I don't meet married men I just don't want the hassle and the back lash as to when its comes out. Because as we know some women tend to blame the female part of the "affair" or whatever you want to call it. A scorned women is never pretty... " damn it there goes my chances - although K will verify I have her permission | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" well if your finding it hard to get along on here,why not try the club scene from what i have gathered from various forums(not any personal experience mind you)it may be the answer to your needs | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" What a simply intriguing conundrum you’ve posed,,,,, In-fact, I find it almost as intriguing as.... Why would married men harbour expectation of the opposite scenario..... Eh? | |||
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"How would the OP feel if he had illness and his wife was on here having NSA? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeAbgBPP_N4&feature=related Don't take your love to town." What? At the end of day this guy is cheating plan and simple. My point being would this guy like the thought of me fucking his wife behind his back while he had an illness? I wonder? | |||
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"take a guess ??? some women only like unattatched men . too right. knife weilding mad wives tracking you down because its obviously all the other womans fault because she started it, is what you really want on a quiet night in " What about the knife-wielding hubbys?? | |||
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"We have this profile for playing as a couple then we each have single profiles. I (James) state quite clearly on my profile that I'm married and have permission and point the concerned reader back to the couple profile, I have even encouraged them to contact my wife on her profile in the past. For all the doubters out there, yes I could be running 3 profiles but I think our verifications help with that. I also tell any prospective meets they can chat on the phone to my wife if wanted and some have! Not all blokes on here who are married are cheating. I appreciate some woman just don't want to meet married men, thats up to them, but please don't get on high horses and judge all married men as cheats because quite simply we're not " But you are not cheating so I don't know why you think comments made about married men cheating would include you? Unless of course, by the fact that you felt the need to comment, you are hiding something? What it is on about is those that put single as their status on their profile, only have one profile and are on here without their wives knowledge and don't have 2 other profiles (as you do), claim to be single when they are not and cannot accommodate | |||
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"Yes but as a fit horny 40 something Nsa fun should be the answer" but there are strings attached aren't there? | |||
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"Firstly, yes I am MARRIED. But this is a community of folks looking for something more... so here's a short verse for those who think FAB is all about them & thanks x Oh my friend We have spent So much time looking for someone to blame Cause were the same The jealous games Take up time we could spend on other things Oh my friend If it ends Let us go and then not look back again We can't be - You and me Taken' ourselves much too seriously. (But I'm not leaving) Teddy x " If you think you are the same as ppl on here with their partners consent, tell your wife and see what happens. we are not the same. we are not looking for something extra either, we are just not monogamous, never have been. | |||
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"I say it again if it was a married woman here ......... a bi woman alot would not care . And the only thing thay would care about getting there end away men and woman." i do think as others have said married women start fewer threads,that's all. If a woman had started this one my ,and many others would have replied the same. | |||
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"I say it again if it was a married woman here ......... a bi woman alot would not care . And the only thing thay would care about getting there end away men and woman. i do think as others have said married women start fewer threads,that's all. If a woman had started this one my ,and many others would have replied the same." alot dont care where thay get sex ...... theres married woman on here playing away never get slagged off as much as men do . | |||
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"We are have choices here on fab and no ones singled out ... its a site for everyone to have fun on ,,, we have no right to tell others who how to live there live ." life xx how can you tell a man or woman over 20.30.40 .50.60 you cant do this and that thay have a choice thay know the risks so its up to them not us .... and we have a choice if we meet or we dont x | |||
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"We are have choices here on fab and no ones singled out ... its a site for everyone to have fun on ,,, we have no right to tell others who how to live there live . life xx how can you tell a man or woman over 20.30.40 .50.60 you cant do this and that thay have a choice thay know the risks so its up to them not us .... and we have a choice if we meet or we dont x" you don't if they don't tell you... | |||
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"We are have choices here on fab and no ones singled out ... its a site for everyone to have fun on ,,, we have no right to tell others who how to live there live . life xx how can you tell a man or woman over 20.30.40 .50.60 you cant do this and that thay have a choice thay know the risks so its up to them not us .... and we have a choice if we meet or we dont x you don't if they don't tell you..." true but 9/10 thay do x i meet one on my boat 2 or 3 years ago was coming with his bi girl friend .. Then say he is married playing away too . Very strange x | |||
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"Married men give the single guys on here a bad name for example timewasters can't accom etc etc If they said they were married on the profile then that's fine MF couple and single females stick to single guys only then you won't get let down! " utter crap ive been let lots by single guys . | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" er because your er er married | |||
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"I love this kind of threads, as they enable me to block those who confess openly as being married/attached so as to prevent future contacts. " *whistles and nods in agreement* | |||
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"Firstly, yes I am MARRIED. But this is a community of folks looking for something more... so here's a short verse for those who think FAB is all about them & thanks x Oh my friend We have spent So much time looking for someone to blame Cause were the same The jealous games Take up time we could sp end on other things Oh my friend If it ends Let us go and then not look back again We can't be - You and me Taken' ourselves much too seriously. (But I'm not leaving) Teddy x I would say from your poem that you are inferring that swinging relationships are the same as cheating? You cannot then in my opinion understand fully the scene you have entered Swinging relationships are mainly built on trust with the FULL understanding and consent of both partners And are a world away from cheating " | |||
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"I think we choose who we want to meet. I don't meet married men but I know some do.. I would not preach my _iews to another person nor would I want anyone to question why I don't do certain things.." I have no problem with married anyone lol But what I do have a problem with is the marrieds that post threads slagging off their partners ( yep I've seen em and am NOT saying the OP of this thread is doing that) when the parnter ain't here to defend themselves Also people like the guy I answered earlier in thread that basically said what he was doing was the same as a swinging couple in a living trust relationship was doin (sorry but bollocks is it) In my last relationship in clubs many times we used to talk to males who showed an interest in my ex One question I used to ask ( yep I'm a nosey bugger) was do you have a partner? On many occasions the reply was yes but even if she knew what I was doing I wouldn't bring HER to a place like this They seldom understood why we walked away xx | |||
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"Firstly, yes I am MARRIED. But this is a community of folks looking for something more... so here's a short verse for those who think FAB is all about them & thanks x Oh my friend We have spent So much time looking for someone to blame Cause were the same The jealous games Take up time we could sp end on other things Oh my friend If it ends Let us go and then not look back again We can't be - You and me Taken' ourselves much too seriously. (But I'm not leaving) Teddy x I would say from your poem that you are inferring that swinging relationships are the same as cheating? You cannot then in my opinion understand fully the scene you have entered Swinging relationships are mainly built on trust with the FULL understanding and consent of both partners And are a world away from cheating " | |||
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"What about when you go to a club like chams on a friday night loads of singles there and loads playing away and thay make out single just there for fun . You can say i never play with married men but you just never know at a club if there alone if single or not ," No you can't I agree. I am sure I have done it and not known. However I can't change that. | |||
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"What about when you go to a club like chams on a friday night loads of singles there and loads playing away and thay make out single just there for fun . You can say i never play with married men but you just never know at a club if there alone if single or not ," But you can say 'never knowingly' and you can say you would not help nor encourage by arranging it. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, " Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, " what the OP does get up to in his private life is exactly that.... his business. and no one would have commented on here. but did you notice HIS QUESTION he wanted answers. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked?" yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined | |||
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"Why it so hard for married men to get meets on here" Because there are plenty of unmarried men which = less complications... simple numbers.... and probably some moral objections too... each to their own.. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, " Aye honesty is the lynchpin of swinging relationships and YES he's being honest in the forums but not with his partner (if you see an earlier post of mine you will find I have no problem with marrieds but after yesterday boy am I being careful what I say ) | |||
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"We are have choices here on fab and no ones singled out ... its a site for everyone to have fun on ,,, we have no right to tell others who how to live there live . life xx how can you tell a man or woman over 20.30.40 .50.60 you cant do this and that thay have a choice thay know the risks so its up to them not us .... and we have a choice if we meet or we dont x And where does the partner's choice fit into all this choice we want people to have?... Oh that's right, they don't have one.... because the person cheating has already decided to not give them one." And thay know the risks thay take and we dont have to be apart of it ... if we know . Its when you dont know and thay make up storys .. myself i think i have no rights to tell people how to live there life but i have a choice .. end of the day .. not to meet .. if others will be hurt from it , | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined" Pretty difficult to separate the issue of morals and the like when the question is about ‘married men’ rather than just ‘men’. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined" People shouldn't ask questions that they might not like the answer to. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined Pretty difficult to separate the issue of morals and the like when the question is about ‘married men’ rather than just ‘men’." another thought do the moral minded people post on this type of thread because they have a reason to do so,i.e. an ex thats has cheated or perhaps in the past they have themselves | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, " If the op hadn't started this thread, how would anyone know he was married from his profile?!! You wouldn't as he chose to omit that fact. Personally, I don't see it as my place to tell adults how to live their lives. However, when I meet I do NOT meet married men, my preference, not open to debate. Some married men however seem unable to respect that...quelle surprise. In those instances I will rip them a new one. The op is typical of the married men that contact me...selfish and self absorbed unable to accept they won't appeal to all but instead of seeking those that want them choose to bitch and whine about being hard done by. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined Pretty difficult to separate the issue of morals and the like when the question is about ‘married men’ rather than just ‘men’. another thought do the moral minded people post on this type of thread because they have a reason to do so,i.e. an ex thats has cheated or perhaps in the past they have themselves" For me personally, no, but I can't speak for everyone. But so what if that is the reason they post.... does their opinion not count just because they have actually experienced the shit side of cheating? | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Aye honesty is the lynchpin of swinging relationships and YES he's being honest in the forums but not with his partner (if you see an earlier post of mine you will find I have no problem with marrieds but after yesterday boy am I being careful what I say ) " You should NOT be tippy-toeing on eggshells due to someone getting the wrong end of the stick. ....some people grab the wrong end of the stick willynilly an awful lot. You should not adjust your _iews or the way you post to suit them xxx | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined Pretty difficult to separate the issue of morals and the like when the question is about ‘married men’ rather than just ‘men’. another thought do the moral minded people post on this type of thread because they have a reason to do so,i.e. an ex thats has cheated or perhaps in the past they have themselves" no I answered cause they are newbies and we get accused of ignoring them if we don't. and I answered honestly... I found it staggering why a 44 year old man would not understand why being married MAY hinder his success. the very same as wearing a wedding ring in a pub might also hinder him knocking off the barmaid. but what he does is entirely his business. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, Why he brought it to the forum, he asked? yes he asked an honest question,but i am sure he didn't asked to have his moral or social outlook examined Pretty difficult to separate the issue of morals and the like when the question is about ‘married men’ rather than just ‘men’. another thought do the moral minded people post on this type of thread because they have a reason to do so,i.e. an ex thats has cheated or perhaps in the past they have themselves For me personally, no, but I can't speak for everyone. But so what if that is the reason they post.... does their opinion not count just because they have actually experienced the shit side of cheating?" everybodies opinion counts thats what an open forum is all about | |||
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"What about when you go to a club like chams on a friday night loads of singles there and loads playing away and thay make out single just there for fun . You can say i never play with married men but you just never know at a club if there alone if single or not , . Hence I seldom play with anyone without trying to get to know him first at clubs. A question ...do you ask to see proof that they are single? If not, how do you know they are telling the truth?" . I do not ask for proof, as it would be too rude to do so. However, I have learnt to look for signs that a person is attached. Usually they would offer the information without much digging. | |||
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" no I answered cause they are newbies and we get accused of ignoring them if we don't. . I have never known a thread about married people being ignored, so sorry View, you answered because you wanted to as you had a _iew on it. I actually answered about 5 newbie posts today because yesterday there was rather a heavy clique thread. This one I checked before answering. I think i know the reason why I answered but I appreciate your opinion" We will have to disagree on this one...either way, as asked yesterday on another thread that went haywire...constant comments about cliques/ not welcoming newbies and digs is becoming tedious...maybe all need to draw a huge line under it. | |||
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"ill only go from my reasons,others will vary im sure. 1 they dont accomm 2 difficult enough arranging meets due to work with out having to factor in when they can sneek out .even if wife knows still difficult as has to be when shes happy for him to meet . 3 i want someone whos focused on me during a meet ,not their mobile or clock watching . 4 majority of the time its behind wifes back and ive no wish to be envolved in ppls domestics or deceit .here for fun not helping others cheat on their spouse .certainly no wish to be there for the shit storm when they get found out . 5 this leads me to the trust issues ..if a guys decieving his own wife who ment to be closest person in his life .why on earth would they be honest and straight with me a total stranger 6 sites full of single guys who can meet when they want ,answer to no one ,accomm all night for long sessions so why complicate life !!! these as i say are why i personally choose not to meet married guys ." Couldn't have said it any better myself. Been on the mad wife's receiving end before .... not nice. | |||
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" no I answered cause they are newbies and we get accused of ignoring them if we don't. . I have never known a thread about married people being ignored, so sorry View, you answered because you wanted to as you had a _iew on it. I actually answered about 5 newbie posts today because yesterday there was rather a heavy clique thread. This one I checked before answering. I think i know the reason why I answered but I appreciate your opinion We will have to disagree on this one...either way, as asked yesterday on another thread that went haywire...constant comments about cliques/ not welcoming newbies and digs is becoming tedious...maybe all need to draw a huge line under it." hear hear | |||
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" Whatever signs you look for they will fail at some point. So techinally you still don't know if the person is feeding you bull or not. . True, however, there is a big difference in knowingly play with someone that is attached, and being deceived into playing with one that has not been truthful about his attachment, IMHO. " i agree with this one totally but its the honest one that get the character assainated wile the dishonest person gets the rewards, funny old world | |||
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" Whatever signs you look for they will fail at some point. So techinally you still don't know if the person is feeding you bull or not. . True, however, there is a big difference in knowingly play with someone that is attached, and being deceived into playing with one that has not been truthful about his attachment, IMHO. " There is yes. BUT people who use clubs won't actually know if they are or not, thats all I mean. We don't play with marrieds for various reasons and we don't play in clubs , BUt either way, the people who are adamant that they don't play with marrieds can't really be sure....even us. | |||
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" Whatever signs you look for they will fail at some point. So techinally you still don't know if the person is feeding you bull or not. . True, however, there is a big difference in knowingly play with someone that is attached, and being deceived into playing with one that has not been truthful about his attachment, IMHO. i agree with this one totally but its the honest one that get the character assainated wile the dishonest person gets the rewards, funny old world" I think the word 'open' may be more appropriate than 'honest' | |||
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" Whatever signs you look for they will fail at some point. So techinally you still don't know if the person is feeding you bull or not. . True, however, there is a big difference in knowingly play with someone that is attached, and being deceived into playing with one that has not been truthful about his attachment, IMHO. i agree with this one totally but its the honest one that get the character assainated wile the dishonest person gets the rewards, funny old world I think the word 'open' may be more appropriate than 'honest'" are you going to correct grammar all day miss perhaps you missed your vocation | |||
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" Whatever signs you look for they will fail at some point. So techinally you still don't know if the person is feeding you bull or not. . True, however, there is a big difference in knowingly play with someone that is attached, and being deceived into playing with one that has not been truthful about his attachment, IMHO. i agree with this one totally but its the honest one that get the character assainated wile the dishonest person gets the rewards, funny old world I think the word 'open' may be more appropriate than 'honest' are you going to correct grammar all day miss perhaps you missed your vocation" It wasn’t an attempt to correct grammar, nor was it an attempt to be sarcastic, though I wouldn’t argue with the word ‘semantics’. I get the point you are making about those who hide the fact they are cheating seem to get what they want more so than those who are ‘open’ bout it. The change of words was a genuine suggestion, bearing in mind a lot of people have and do object to someone who is known to be lying to at least one person, referred to as honest…. when they as a person are clearly not. And yes we could all be lying to someone….. but the thing is we don’t know that until they let that be known, unlike someone who openly states they are playing away. | |||
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"open / honest pretty much the same," . I disagree. I can be honest about something but only when asked about it directly. I may not necessarily be open about it without being asked. | |||
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"Married men give the single guys on here a bad name for example timewasters can't accom etc etc If they said they were married on the profile then that's fine MF couple and single females stick to single guys only then you won't get let down! " No they dont, anyone can be a timewaster even you | |||
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"It's freezing in here. Who left the door honest ?" | |||
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"open / honest pretty much the same," I can say without doubt they are being dishonest.... to someone; which does contradict calling them 'honest'. I cannot deny they are being 'open' about it. You are of course free to use whichever... it was just a suggestion to clarify the point you were making. | |||
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"It's freezing in here. Who left the door honest ?" ..... the last open man leaving. | |||
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"quiet funny this thread and the others like it,the OP in the first instance is genuine and honest in the most cases, but ends up getting called a cheating so and so by the majority of posters, then some say honesty is the lynchpin of swinging society, surely what the OP gets up to in his private life is just that,and those that hold a moral or social objection to his relationship status should keep it to themselves and use the block button accordingly, " So when the op asked why married men dont get meets what should ppl have replied | |||
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" Having said all that. I openly wish you well in the way you have decided to deal with your need. Secretly I hope no fucker touches you with a ten foot barge pole. " . Now that's what I called being honest! | |||
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