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"Well that was an eventful walk out for you lol. Definitely think the guy not having his dogs on a lead is at fault. Like the username too. From a great film. Jack" | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. " Oh mine actually has a little pack of work mates! They're brilliant!! Actually very funny ... | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. " And what about if there are young children playing in the park, not all dogs can be trusted, even small ones. | |||
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"But when called she came without argument...usually be some chocolate in it for her..sometimes not." She sounds like you trained her well , not all dogs have responsible owners, unfortunately. | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. " In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. | |||
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There is a phrase ‘being a sensible pet owner’. Some pet owners do not understand the meaning of it. | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. And what about if there are young children playing in the park, not all dogs can be trusted, even small ones." What if there's loony adults in the park who don't like dogs and ends up arguing with people over it? | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. " I love dogs, but would never approach a dog I didn't know. | |||
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There is a phrase ‘being a sensible pet owner’. Some pet owners do not understand the meaning of it."Quite true | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. And what about if there are young children playing in the park, not all dogs can be trusted, even small ones. What if there's loony adults in the park who don't like dogs and ends up arguing with people over it? " If they're on a lead, there would be no need to argue. | |||
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"when i had my operation we went for a little walk in the park as my first trip out a dog appeared from nowhere jumped up at me and ripped my stitches" This is exactly why they should be on a lead | |||
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"As an owner of a 56 kg anxious German Shepherd, agree that dogs should be off leads, but only if owners can control them Reason my dog is anxious with other dogs! Because he got attacked by an off lead dog in the park, with an owner who couldn't control it yet thought it funny their little precious was chewing on my boys leg... So now while he's going through remodification behaviour, he is walked on lead, away from others. I'm sure some may find a yorkshire terrier attacking a German Shepherd funny, however if that was my dog, people would soon be screaming DDA at me... " Our son's Labrador was attacked by an ' off duty' police dog, who was off the lead, a trip to the vets afterwards... | |||
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"I hav a staffy and staffy cross pitbull. Woùld never let them off the lead in a public place as they are playfully /hyper and we knock a child over. Iv had little dogs run barking at mine and obv they are going to retaliate. Owners like this annoy me as I'm very careful and altho mine r very well behaved they won't stand and take the crap. X" | |||
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"Just to add, my boy is impeccable off lead, he has to be. I keep him on a lead because of irresponsible cunts. " Very responsible owner | |||
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"The law states that dogs should be under control at all times. If you have them trained then all well and good but if you have a little shit that's going to look for trouble then it should be on a lead. Socialising is the best thing imho that we can do for our dogs - we have 5 and at least 2 are brought to my class every week to continue theirs " I think socialising classes are a great idea! | |||
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"Dogs shouldn't be on a lead.... They need to run Dogs fight, it's in their nature.. It's how it is" What do you mean??? | |||
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"It's a dog thing... It's what they do" And its ok for dogs to fight in a public park, where someone may get hurt? | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. I love dogs, but would never approach a dog I didn't know."Your paranoid | |||
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"It's a dog thing... It's what they do And its ok for dogs to fight in a public park, where someone may get hurt?" It's OK for nature to run it's coarse... Yes | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. I love dogs, but would never approach a dog I didn't know.
Your paranoid"No just wary, having been attacked by a dog running off the lead, in a public park.. | |||
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"It's a dog thing... It's what they do And its ok for dogs to fight in a public park, where someone may get hurt? It's OK for nature to run it's coarse... Yes" And whilst nature is running its course, its ok for a young child to potentially be attacked, or maybe the young child should be on a lead.... | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. I love dogs, but would never approach a dog I didn't know.
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day "Ace you obviously are a responsible owner | |||
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"It's a dog thing... It's what they do And its ok for dogs to fight in a public park, where someone may get hurt? It's OK for nature to run it's coarse... Yes And whilst nature is running its course, its ok for a young child to potentially be attacked, or maybe the young child should be on a lead...." Come off it.... Your old enough to have been from the generation where we fell off our bikes, came home when the street lights came on,generally Allways had a plaster on your knee.. Life's full of maybe,s but generally doesn't happen anyway.. | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead." Unfortunately there are those arrogant owners who take no notice... | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead. Unfortunately there are those arrogant owners who take no notice..." Agreed there are indeed, however once they get the police involved that by-law may suddenly become a lot more noticeable when the officer quotes it. | |||
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"That sounds awful OP. The reality with dogs is that they are less likely to get aggressive is they are not on a lead. Sometimes the little dogs have ‘little dog syndrome’ and feel the need to prove they are big though. From what you say I think it was the ‘poodle’ people’s fault. They should not let their dogs run free if they are unable to control them, including getting them to stop what they are doing and returning to their owner’s side. I feel for the injured dog but it should not have been allowed to get itself into that kind of danger "The injured dog will be at home in front of the fire licking it's bollox trying to suss out where mum n dad's put that turkey from yesterday whilst got one eye on that chocolate orange which has been put out of his reach.. He won't have give a toss that he got into a scrap today.. That's what they do now and again. | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead." Call the police.. are you joking?.. There's people's houses been burgled that don't get a responding call..... My poodles been bitten!!!!.. What's a cop supposed to do with it | |||
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"Golden rule if we see another dog on a lead regardless of its breed we bring our 2 collies to us or put them on their leads till we pass.. The fault is with the owner of the 3 dogs not the guy with his on the lead.. " This | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner "I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately  | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead. Call the police.. are you joking?.. There's people's houses been burgled that don't get a responding call..... My poodles been bitten!!!!.. What's a cop supposed to do with it" Hunt the offending dog down and bite it back  | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead. Call the police.. are you joking?.. There's people's houses been burgled that don't get a responding call..... My poodles been bitten!!!!.. What's a cop supposed to do with it Hunt the offending dog down and bite it back " | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead." This. Whilst the law does not state,a dog has to go on a lead, it dies state it has to be under control. And the local bylaws take precedence if they state dogs must be on a lead. When I first had my spaniel (many years ago, I was one of those dippy types who thought that because my dog was good natured, even if she was around other dogs on a lead she wasn't doing any harm! Then one day my friend (with a defensive Jack Russell) explained how annoying and difficult it can be for dogs like hers, who had been attacked previously, and were therefore aggressively defensive. After that I mirrored other dog walkers- if they put their dog on the lead on approach- so did I. | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead. Call the police.. are you joking?.. There's people's houses been burgled that don't get a responding call..... My poodles been bitten!!!!.. What's a cop supposed to do with it" Did you fire off before closely reading the piece and the comment? The poodles' owners were mouthing off that they were going to call the police, so the OP should simply have called their bluff and said go ahead. There is actually a chance the police would respond as a public park dog fight represents a danger to children and given recent cases the police just might have "adverse publicity" ticked on that one. | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately
That's a shame, Ace "I do dog sit for one of ma mates occasionally though, he's got a Staffie bitch who tries to eat me out of house & home when she's not slobbering all over ma slippers | |||
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"Sorry to hear your bad day OP. You should have told the mouthy off lead dog owners to go right ahead and call the police and said you were willing to give a statement that the poodles were off lead and went for the big dog who was on a lead. Can't see them getting anywhere after that. BTW Many public parks are covered by by-laws that say dogs must be on a lead. This. Whilst the law does not state,a dog has to go on a lead, it dies state it has to be under control. And the local bylaws take precedence if they state dogs must be on a lead. When I first had my spaniel (many years ago, I was one of those dippy types who thought that because my dog was good natured, even if she was around other dogs on a lead she wasn't doing any harm! Then one day my friend (with a defensive Jack Russell) explained how annoying and difficult it can be for dogs like hers, who had been attacked previously, and were therefore aggressively defensive. After that I mirrored other dog walkers- if they put their dog on the lead on approach- so did I." Sounds very sensible | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately
That's a shame, Ace
I do dog sit for one of ma mates occasionally though, he's got a Staffie bitch who tries to eat me out of house & home when she's not slobbering all over ma slippers "That sounds great. Occasionally, we may have our son's dogs. We are lucky and live in the country, so can take them for walks in the fields, well away from other dogs and people | |||
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"I always walk my wee dog on a lead he a wee pug" Love pugs, especially the black ones | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately
That's a shame, Ace
I do dog sit for one of ma mates occasionally though, he's got a Staffie bitch who tries to eat me out of house & home when she's not slobbering all over ma slippers
That sounds great. Occasionally, we may have our son's dogs. We are lucky and live in the country, so can take them for walks in the fields, well away from other dogs and people "As I say, I used to live out in the sticks, ma last Border Collie combined being a Houdini with kleptomania, some of the shit he brought back from other peoples' properties was unreal! A bicycle pump A Jar of fishing bait A pair of kiddies red trousers Countless socks and assorted knickers A Rubik's cube And a Garden Gnome All were returned apart from the Gnome, nobody wanted to claim ownership of that apparently | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately
That's a shame, Ace
I do dog sit for one of ma mates occasionally though, he's got a Staffie bitch who tries to eat me out of house & home when she's not slobbering all over ma slippers
That sounds great. Occasionally, we may have our son's dogs. We are lucky and live in the country, so can take them for walks in the fields, well away from other dogs and people
As I say, I used to live out in the sticks, ma last Border Collie combined being a Houdini with kleptomania, some of the shit he brought back from other peoples' properties was unreal!
A bicycle pump
A Jar of fishing bait
A pair of kiddies red trousers
Countless socks and assorted knickers
A Rubik's cube
And a Garden Gnome
All were returned apart from the Gnome, nobody wanted to claim ownership of that apparently "Sounds like Bruce Forsyth's generation game, | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately
That's a shame, Ace
I do dog sit for one of ma mates occasionally though, he's got a Staffie bitch who tries to eat me out of house & home when she's not slobbering all over ma slippers
That sounds great. Occasionally, we may have our son's dogs. We are lucky and live in the country, so can take them for walks in the fields, well away from other dogs and people
As I say, I used to live out in the sticks, ma last Border Collie combined being a Houdini with kleptomania, some of the shit he brought back from other peoples' properties was unreal!
A bicycle pump
A Jar of fishing bait
A pair of kiddies red trousers
Countless socks and assorted knickers
A Rubik's cube
And a Garden Gnome
All were returned apart from the Gnome, nobody wanted to claim ownership of that apparently
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
Ace you obviously are a responsible owner
I would love another one, but I live in a top floor flat near the City centre, so it's not practical unfortunately
That's a shame, Ace
I do dog sit for one of ma mates occasionally though, he's got a Staffie bitch who tries to eat me out of house & home when she's not slobbering all over ma slippers
That sounds great. Occasionally, we may have our son's dogs. We are lucky and live in the country, so can take them for walks in the fields, well away from other dogs and people
As I say, I used to live out in the sticks, ma last Border Collie combined being a Houdini with kleptomania, some of the shit he brought back from other peoples' properties was unreal!
A bicycle pump
A Jar of fishing bait
A pair of kiddies red trousers
Countless socks and assorted knickers
A Rubik's cube
And a Garden Gnome
All were returned apart from the Gnome, nobody wanted to claim ownership of that apparently
Sounds like Bruce Forsyth's generation game,
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"get a fish ... sorted " As long as you don't have a cat, it might eat it! | |||
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"get a fish ... sorted As long as you don't have a cat, it might eat it! "Hehehehe (wouldn't have one of those bloody things either lol) | |||
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"get a fish ... sorted As long as you don't have a cat, it might eat it!
Hehehehe (wouldn't have one of those bloody things either lol)"Haha..love my little cat and wouldn't have a fish, because she would definitely eat it | |||
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Yeah, there were quite a few other items as well
Haha Love it!"I got fed up of knocking on ma neighbour's doors to return their stuff while ma dog sat there knowing what he'd done and looking all innocent  | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day "On the other hand, I have had (And still do) working collies. They can be very obedient, but collies are so highly strung, I'd never trust one entirely. I would never walk them off the lead where there are other dogs. You never know which other dogs will cause yours to snap, and while I accept that dogs do fight, I'd rather it wasn't with someone else's dogs, especially as people are bonkers and expect dogs to behave like people. | |||
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"What about when a cat kills a bird?.... Should cats be kept indoors at all times... Or is that different?? " Cats are literally the only animal you buy and then turf out to do as they please, wherever they please. They decimate songbird populations, upset and kill people's poultry. They should be controlled like any other person, and if that means keeping them in, then so be it. | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. And what about if there are young children playing in the park, not all dogs can be trusted, even small ones."
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"The couple with the 3 poodle type dogs were the problem and no one else. If you can't control your dogs or call them back then have them on their leads. Happens all the time in the local parks and on the local beaches and they always try to blame everyone but themselves." | |||
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"I never let my dog off lead in a public park, I also muzzle her as I know if another dog got in her face she would attack. So to cover myself and my dog, lead and muzzle. It's a shame other owners don't realise not all dogs are friendly to other dogs. " | |||
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"I hav a staffy and staffy cross pitbull. Woùld never let them off the lead in a public place as they are playfully /hyper and we knock a child over. Iv had little dogs run barking at mine and obv they are going to retaliate. Owners like this annoy me as I'm very careful and altho mine r very well behaved they won't stand and take the crap. X" Same as myself. I have two rescues. One is a staff x whippet and is ok off the lead whereas my staffy x English bull terrier is very anxious around other dogs. He must always stay on the lead for his safety as much as others . He’s scared of his own shadow bless him | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
On the other hand, I have had (And still do) working collies. They can be very obedient, but collies are so highly strung, I'd never trust one entirely. I would never walk them off the lead where there are other dogs.
You never know which other dogs will cause yours to snap, and while I accept that dogs do fight, I'd rather it wasn't with someone else's dogs, especially as people are bonkers and expect dogs to behave like people."Behave like people? My dogs have always came to heel, not once have they ever got into a scrap with another mutt | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
On the other hand, I have had (And still do) working collies. They can be very obedient, but collies are so highly strung, I'd never trust one entirely. I would never walk them off the lead where there are other dogs.
You never know which other dogs will cause yours to snap, and while I accept that dogs do fight, I'd rather it wasn't with someone else's dogs, especially as people are bonkers and expect dogs to behave like people.
Behave like people? My dogs have always came to heel, not once have they ever got into a scrap with another mutt "Except that time when it happens. I've worked with animals all my life. You never know 100% what they are going to do at any given time. Your dogs may have been great, but what if they were in pain and you hadn't realised? What if they managed to get cornered? My point about people expecting animals to behave like people was more about expecting them to have some sort of morality/sense of human society. I've often heard people blamimg a particular dog for a dog fight, when it was/is actually always the fault of humans. | |||
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"I have raised 3 generations of Border Collies when I lived in a village, none of them were ever on leads, the last one was taught by his mother to sit and wait at traffic lights until I got there. Inquisitive yes, agressive no, although one of them did show me up when he had a dump in front of the Pavilion on Carnival Day
On the other hand, I have had (And still do) working collies. They can be very obedient, but collies are so highly strung, I'd never trust one entirely. I would never walk them off the lead where there are other dogs.
You never know which other dogs will cause yours to snap, and while I accept that dogs do fight, I'd rather it wasn't with someone else's dogs, especially as people are bonkers and expect dogs to behave like people.
Behave like people? My dogs have always came to heel, not once have they ever got into a scrap with another mutt
Except that time when it happens.
I've worked with animals all my life. You never know 100% what they are going to do at any given time. Your dogs may have been great, but what if they were in pain and you hadn't realised? What if they managed to get cornered?
My point about people expecting animals to behave like people was more about expecting them to have some sort of morality/sense of human society.
I've often heard people blamimg a particular dog for a dog fight, when it was/is actually always the fault of humans. "Yeah, I sort of get what what you are saying, there are some sad people who will actually train their dogs to attack other dogs | |||
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"so, visited one of our local parks today and it would seem the whole city had the same idea as it was proper busy, anyway, mainly filled with people with dogs, one couple had 3 little poodle type thingies (i don’t know dog breeds sorrry) all happily walking without leads, doing their usual sniffing and pissing as they walk, coming towards us was this house of a man with the biggest pit bull cross type of a dog on a lead, now one of the little poodle things ran over to it barking, the other dog owner pulled his dog back but this little poodle wanted a go, what followed was carnage, lots of barking and biting, the poodle got away with a damaged back leg, the owner went mental at the other guy, now it was at this point i stepped in, the three dogs where not on a lead, the other owner argued and quite rightly so that his dogs should be on a lead, trying to calm the situation i ended up getting a bit of abuse towards myself, the guy just didn’t think his dogs not being on a lead was the issue, and the bigger dog should never even be in the park. The guy with the big dog couldn’t apologise enough over what happened but at the end of it, it wasn’t his fault, the other guy was having a go cause his dog got injured, i told him his dogs should be on leads and this would never of happened, was at that point his partner chipped in telling me to fuck off cause i know nothing, bit of a crowd had gathered cause of the noise now, the guy with the big dog left, and the owners of the little poodles where saying they where going to call the police? what the hell where they gunna do about it, anyways, as walks in the park go, this one had a bit of drama i could have done without, sorry to bore you all but just felt like sharing "Sadly this is becoming the norm, with people oblivious to be aware that they are actually at fault, or a major reason the incident happened. They blame everything on everyone else, as it is never their fault. | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. I love dogs, but would never approach a dog I didn't know.
Your paranoid
No just wary, having been attacked by a dog running off the lead, in a public park..
Shit happens.. "I wonder if you would be so cool about if of you were the one attacked, or your dog, or another member of your family? You are being ridiculous. Absurdly so. | |||
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"What about when a cat kills a bird?.... Should cats be kept indoors at all times... Or is that different?? Cats are literally the only animal you buy and then turf out to do as they please, wherever they please. They decimate songbird populations, upset and kill people's poultry. They should be controlled like any other person, and if that means keeping them in, then so be it. " Ah I forgot your hatred towards cats | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. And what about if there are young children playing in the park, not all dogs can be trusted, even small ones." | |||
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"I hav a staffy and staffy cross pitbull. Woùld never let them off the lead in a public place as they are playfully /hyper and we knock a child over. Iv had little dogs run barking at mine and obv they are going to retaliate. Owners like this annoy me as I'm very careful and altho mine r very well behaved they won't stand and take the crap. X Same as myself. I have two rescues. One is a staff x whippet and is ok off the lead whereas my staffy x English bull terrier is very anxious around other dogs. He must always stay on the lead for his safety as much as others . He’s scared of his own shadow bless him " My putty cross is the same. He actually saved my Old English Sheepdog (passed of old age now) life when attacked by 2 mastiffs off the lead. Major went to his aid and got kicked by the owners when he pinned 1 down. He is now fear agressive and snarls at any other dog that comes near cos he is terrified x | |||
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"I have a lab and he is off the lead when ever its quiet. But as soon as another dog comes i put him back on. But nit due to him being violent or aggressive but if i dont know the other walker then i will never take a risk as mine just wants to play but being big can be over playful and people are cautios of him. But ill let him have a sniff on the lead and if they get on and tge other owner is happy ill let him off. Its all about knowing other dogs you should never assume" That's exactly what we used to do with our sons black lab. He was very docile, its just being courteous to the other dog owners, some people don't seem to understand that. | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. In some dog utopia maybe but in a public area with lots of odd smells and people and noises then, no. You are wrong. As this story proved. While dog owners might like dogs not all people do and if is conceited to think that they can force their animals on other people. I love dogs, but would never approach a dog I didn't know.
Your paranoid
No just wary, having been attacked by a dog running off the lead, in a public park..
Shit happens..
I wonder if you would be so cool about if of you were the one attacked, or your dog, or another member of your family?
You are being ridiculous. Absurdly so. "He's not getting it, is he | |||
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"I have a lab and he is off the lead when ever its quiet. But as soon as another dog comes i put him back on. But nit due to him being violent or aggressive but if i dont know the other walker then i will never take a risk as mine just wants to play but being big can be over playful and people are cautios of him. But ill let him have a sniff on the lead and if they get on and tge other owner is happy ill let him off. Its all about knowing other dogs you should never assume That's exactly what we used to do with our sons black lab. He was very docile, its just being courteous to the other dog owners, some people don't seem to understand that." I think it should always be the case. But its usually people with little dogs who dont keep them on the lead as they are little but most time are the issue as always barking or a nusiance due to little dog syndrome | |||
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"I have a lab and he is off the lead when ever its quiet. But as soon as another dog comes i put him back on. But nit due to him being violent or aggressive but if i dont know the other walker then i will never take a risk as mine just wants to play but being big can be over playful and people are cautios of him. But ill let him have a sniff on the lead and if they get on and tge other owner is happy ill let him off. Its all about knowing other dogs you should never assume That's exactly what we used to do with our sons black lab. He was very docile, its just being courteous to the other dog owners, some people don't seem to understand that. I think it should always be the case. But its usually people with little dogs who dont keep them on the lead as they are little but most time are the issue as always barking or a nusiance due to little dog syndrome" We've found that too. As I said further up, he was attacked by a police dog (off duty) a German Shepard, I don't think he should have been off the lead, he was vicious. | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. " They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok..." Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control "I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful. | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful."As was posted earlier, a lot of it is down to how you bring a particular breed of dog up. They are not all nasty, but it can be taught. | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful.
As was posted earlier, a lot of it is down to how you bring a particular breed of dog up. They are not all nasty, but it can be taught. "I agree, its irresponsible owners that are the problem,Ace. | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful.
As was posted earlier, a lot of it is down to how you bring a particular breed of dog up. They are not all nasty, but it can be taught.
I agree, its irresponsible owners that are the problem,Ace."Also gets my goat, (not a literal one) when these dog owners ignore rules, I was at a beach in the summer, the sign says no dogs on the beach during these months. What do I see, a massive German Sheppard bounding around. Chasing another set of dogs, who were on lead, but also shouldn't have been on the beach at that time. | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful.
As was posted earlier, a lot of it is down to how you bring a particular breed of dog up. They are not all nasty, but it can be taught.
I agree, its irresponsible owners that are the problem,Ace.
Also gets my goat, (not a literal one) when these dog owners ignore rules, I was at a beach in the summer, the sign says no dogs on the beach during these months. What do I see, a massive German Sheppard bounding around. Chasing another set of dogs, who were on lead, but also shouldn't have been on the beach at that time. "Yes this, they do leave their little parcels there too! It is a bit of a shame, because it's lovely to see dogs splashing around in the water, I guess they can go to a more remote part of the beach | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful."You do Yes, predominantly by dogs they "knew" in their own home - not a fab analogy | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful.
As was posted earlier, a lot of it is down to how you bring a particular breed of dog up. They are not all nasty, but it can be taught.
I agree, its irresponsible owners that are the problem,Ace."One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat  | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful.
You do Yes, predominantly by dogs they "knew" in their own home - not a fab analogy "Desperately sad, isn't it? | |||
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"Ugh dogs. You go to a public space, put your animal on a lead. If you don't, then don't complain if it gets hurt or if it hurts and then gets prosecuted. Poodle man and woman sound like right idiots. They do, lots of idiots about, who think its ok... Exactly, if you wanna take your dog out, then it is your responsibility to keep it under control
I find it hard to believe that people think its ok for their dogs to run freely in public places. You see some horrific pictures of little children that have been savaged by dogs and some who have died from their injuries. Disgraceful.
As was posted earlier, a lot of it is down to how you bring a particular breed of dog up. They are not all nasty, but it can be taught.
I agree, its irresponsible owners that are the problem,Ace.
One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat "I have one of those | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those "It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though  | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though "Haha, that could have been painful | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful "Once bitten twice shy | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy " | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
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"I keep my dogs on a lead because of the prey drive. but being very 'pack' orientated dogs, they like each other and my family, but see all other dogs as a potential threat to their pack. with this in mind, I'm careful where I walk them, but I have been bitten because some people don't listen. last year on a fairly late evening walk, some plonker was also in the park with his great Dane off lead. I called to the owner to ask him to call his dog back as mine were getting antsy with him sniffing round and being too close. he called back his dog is great with others so nothing will happen. queue my eldest getting pissed off with a nose up his arse. I, naturally wanted to prevent the dogs getting into it and put my dogs behind me. the great Dane bit my thigh trying to get to my dogs. I think people should be aware that dogs are on a lead for a reason. and call back the off lead dogs when asked to. the guy is lucky I didnt demand it was put down, it drew blood. I'm now even more careful where I go. " Gosh that's awful, what's the matter with these idiots? | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
I'm glad you found it funny, I didn't at the time "I'm sure you didn't, I was picturing the scene | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
I'm glad you found it funny, I didn't at the time
I'm sure you didn't, I was picturing the scene "It "was" a lovely cat though  | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
I'm glad you found it funny, I didn't at the time
I'm sure you didn't, I was picturing the scene
It "was" a lovely cat though "Where is the cat now? | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
I'm glad you found it funny, I didn't at the time
I'm sure you didn't, I was picturing the scene
It "was" a lovely cat though
Where is the cat now? "Still haunting people that I don't know anymore I should imagine | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
I'm glad you found it funny, I didn't at the time
I'm sure you didn't, I was picturing the scene
It "was" a lovely cat though
Where is the cat now?
Still haunting people that I don't know anymore I should imagine "Oh ok | |||
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"One of ma ex's youngest sons brought an ickle fluffy kitten back one day, it turned into an Attack Cat
I have one of those
It used to hijack ma paper while I was sat reading it in the nude after having just had a shower after work, ma hand was always covering ma bollocks though
Haha, that could have been painful
Once bitten twice shy
I'm glad you found it funny, I didn't at the time
I'm sure you didn't, I was picturing the scene
It "was" a lovely cat though
Where is the cat now?
Still haunting people that I don't know anymore I should imagine
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"I keep my dogs on a lead because of the prey drive. but being very 'pack' orientated dogs, they like each other and my family, but see all other dogs as a potential threat to their pack. with this in mind, I'm careful where I walk them, but I have been bitten because some people don't listen. last year on a fairly late evening walk, some plonker was also in the park with his great Dane off lead. I called to the owner to ask him to call his dog back as mine were getting antsy with him sniffing round and being too close. he called back his dog is great with others so nothing will happen. queue my eldest getting pissed off with a nose up his arse. I, naturally wanted to prevent the dogs getting into it and put my dogs behind me. the great Dane bit my thigh trying to get to my dogs. I think people should be aware that dogs are on a lead for a reason. and call back the off lead dogs when asked to. the guy is lucky I didnt demand it was put down, it drew blood. I'm now even more careful where I go. " What did the owner say after his dog attacked you? I would have reported him. His dog will do it again. | |||
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"I have a lab and he is off the lead when ever its quiet. But as soon as another dog comes i put him back on. But nit due to him being violent or aggressive but if i dont know the other walker then i will never take a risk as mine just wants to play but being big can be over playful and people are cautios of him. But ill let him have a sniff on the lead and if they get on and tge other owner is happy ill let him off. Its all about knowing other dogs you should never assume" | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. " But some people don't want to make friends with dogs regardless of how much their owner think they have the right to force it upon you. | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. But some people don't want to make friends with dogs regardless of how much their owner think they have the right to force it upon you." my daughter is frightened of dogs, doesn’t matter how small they are, not sure where the fear has come from but after yesterday’s incident her fear has grown 10 fold | |||
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"Owners should be in control of their dogs and train them to respond to a 'return to owner' command. My neice trained her dog from a puppy to do just that without problems." That's excellent. A trained dog is a joy to own | |||
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"Shouldn't... They need to socialise with both dogs and people and find that's other dogs and people are OK. Keeping them with the owner/on its own all the time just creates obsessive protective and dominant aggressive behaviour. Dogs do make friends just like we do.. But some people don't want to make friends with dogs regardless of how much their owner think they have the right to force it upon you. my daughter is frightened of dogs, doesn’t matter how small they are, not sure where the fear has come from but after yesterday’s incident her fear has grown 10 fold "I'm not surprised, hope this thread opens people's eyes | |||
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"Owners should be in control of their dogs and train them to respond to a 'return to owner' command. My neice trained her dog from a puppy to do just that without problems. That's excellent. A trained dog is a joy to own "I trained mine to do a lot of things, but I'm sure nicking other people's property wasn't on the list | |||
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"They definitely should be on a lead in a public park " | |||
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"Owners should be in control of their dogs and train them to respond to a 'return to owner' command. My neice trained her dog from a puppy to do just that without problems. That's excellent. A trained dog is a joy to own
I trained mine to do a lot of things, but I'm sure nicking other people's property wasn't on the list "Haha | |||
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"The large dog was on a lead. The small dogs were not. Legally the owners of the small dogs bear responsibility. There is no contest / no argument. " Yes this, Granny | |||
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