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"Its all good until your cycle is over and your T count is repressed. Then you need another post cycle to try bringing it back to norm (which it never reaches) then the emotional rollercoaster begins as your hormone panel is going through hell. Then you lose your gains and look like crap and so start another cycle. I studied steroids for 2 years during my nurse training. I met many people who regret the day they started. Just hopw you done lots of research x Good luck " Schooled by science | |||
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"Its all good until your cycle is over and your T count is repressed. Then you need another post cycle to try bringing it back to norm (which it never reaches) then the emotional rollercoaster begins as your hormone panel is going through hell. Then you lose your gains and look like crap and so start another cycle. I studied steroids for 2 years during my nurse training. I met many people who regret the day they started. Just hopw you done lots of research x Good luck " | |||
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"Why do you take steroids? " I saw a news article a while ago that said steroid use had gone up massively amongst young guys ..the article suggested it was pressure to have the body beautiful | |||
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"Prefer estrogen" Extended anabolic steroid use can cause the body to change it to oestrogen to balance things out. And that, ladies and gents, is when you get gynaecomastia also known as bitch tits. Seriously though OP, read the bloody news. Quite a few cases at the min where they are mixing steroid for use in cement mixers and flogging them. No way i would trust anything on the market these days, even if I was into it. Too many unknowns. Look at YouTube for now and then bodybuilders. A lot of them are totally fucked and haven't kept the gains they made. At the end of the day it's your body and you will do what you want to do.. Just be careful. | |||
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"Why do you take steroids? I saw a news article a while ago that said steroid use had gone up massively amongst young guys ..the article suggested it was pressure to have the body beautiful " This is a perfect example of why I don't do big nights out. Loads of guys taking steroids to look good, then taking cocaine to sober up and carry on drinking. So increased aggression from the extra testosterone and paranoia from the marching powder.. | |||
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"There's loads of young guys at the gym I go to who openly chat about what steroids they're on as if it's just perfectly normal. A couple of them are freakishly big and covered in shoulder acne. Working hard on a natural physique obviously isn't good enough anymore " It's all about the quick fix these days. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done!" Perfectly healthy? Many of the issues with steroids are the result of a prolonged use and only evident when they have stopped using. As stated above early onset osteoporosis, inability to regulate hormone levels, not to mention mental health issues created by levels of body dysmorphia. I have also seen guys who have erectile problems when they are off their cycle and need viagra. Many guys using steroids still look like crap as they forget that they still need to diet properly. That's when they start to look all bloated and puffy (water retention) They think steroids and lifting weights means healthy. It's not, it's all about filling out that tee shirt. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done!" So when do you expect they are going to start working? | |||
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"Why do you take steroids? I saw a news article a while ago that said steroid use had gone up massively amongst young guys ..the article suggested it was pressure to have the body beautiful " and does everyone achieve that? Out of curiously, as I know nothing about steroids. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done! So when do you expect they are going to start working? " Bit of a low blow to him sir, does it make you feel good | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done!" Are they perfectly healthy though? They no doubt look it on the outside but what's happening to their heart and other organs? | |||
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"Anyone else on here use AAS? Just started another cycle and jesus christ, been rock hard all day! Cock has been throbbing so hard at work it hurts aha. Gonna need to meet 10x more often now!" I think you have a great physique by the way | |||
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"Ahaa, all good. Thick skinned enough to take it. Had a few set backs outside of the gym. At the end of the day everytime I've had my blood work done everything comes back fine, you look and feel good. The people judging and criticising it are probably the same people banging and mandy every weekend." Judging and criticising the use of substances you do not need to use to achieve a look you haven't been able to achieve naturally? Yep, pure envy that is. I also take a dim view on other substance abuse but hey ho. | |||
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"Ahaa, all good. Thick skinned enough to take it. Had a few set backs outside of the gym. At the end of the day everytime I've had my blood work done everything comes back fine, you look and feel good. The people judging and criticising it are probably the same people banging and mandy every weekend. Judging and criticising the use of substances you do not need to use to achieve a look you haven't been able to achieve naturally? Yep, pure envy that is. I also take a dim view on other substance abuse but hey ho." Never said anything about envy? Just that, they'll judge it based on biased information they've read online while damaging their body just as much if not more binging on alcohol and drugs on the weekend. I didn't go into detail about my background, I was prescribed testosterone by a DR due to low T before I decided to do it myself very recently. Needed just as much as an anti-depressant is for someone lacking seratonin. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done! So when do you expect they are going to start working? Bit of a low blow to him sir, does it make you feel good " Just a wee light hearted joke, I pressed the wrong emoji, should have been the sarky jokey one next to it. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done!" You are 27 and blasting and cruising? So never plan on comming off?? I get it if competing or for professional athletes but just for looks is unwise but its your life and you know the risks. Have you been prescribed TRT? | |||
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"Ahaa, all good. Thick skinned enough to take it. Had a few set backs outside of the gym. At the end of the day everytime I've had my blood work done everything comes back fine, you look and feel good. The people judging and criticising it are probably the same people banging and mandy every weekend." You’re only 27 and you say you’re never going to come off them. What do you want the end result to be? Can you see yourself staying on them when you’re an old man and if not what do you think will happen to your body when you do eventually come off them. Genuine questions. I’ve seen a lot of really nice guys turn into angry, paranoid control freaks over the years. Be very careful. | |||
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"Ahaa, all good. Thick skinned enough to take it. Had a few set backs outside of the gym. At the end of the day everytime I've had my blood work done everything comes back fine, you look and feel good. The people judging and criticising it are probably the same people banging and mandy every weekend." Not really. I've got 10 years on you, and going by your pics, reckon I am in better shape. Never needed to use anything more than protein and BCAAs. I rarely drink and have never used anything "recreational". Be careful throw in stones in glass houses. But it's all ok if it makes you feel good. | |||
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"I use TRT I cannot recommend it enough for those with dipping T levels. It’s does have enormous wellbeing affects when used therapeutically. Mind and body. " I was originally prescribed TRT but will admit I have now bumped the dosages up myself. Don't understand the hate towards it though? I really didn't go into any detail. Getting messages like "Freak", "Would never meet a steroid user". Would they say the same thing about a member with diabetes injecting insulin? | |||
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"I use TRT I cannot recommend it enough for those with dipping T levels. It’s does have enormous wellbeing affects when used therapeutically. Mind and body. I was originally prescribed TRT but will admit I have now bumped the dosages up myself. Don't understand the hate towards it though? I really didn't go into any detail. Getting messages like "Freak", "Would never meet a steroid user". Would they say the same thing about a member with diabetes injecting insulin?" There is a difference between medicating and self medicating. I would never meet a steroid user that was using without prescription or overdosing by choice. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with talking about it openly in public? They're legal in the UK. As for coming off and PCT, yeah that sucks. Went through that last year. Don't plan on coming off again, blast and cruise. I know plenty of guys who are perfectly healthy who use, don't go overboard and make sure you get regular bloodwork done! So when do you expect they are going to start working? Bit of a low blow to him sir, does it make you feel good Just a wee light hearted joke, I pressed the wrong emoji, should have been the sarky jokey one next to it. " | |||
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"I use TRT I cannot recommend it enough for those with dipping T levels. It’s does have enormous wellbeing affects when used therapeutically. Mind and body. I was originally prescribed TRT but will admit I have now bumped the dosages up myself. Don't understand the hate towards it though? I really didn't go into any detail. Getting messages like "Freak", "Would never meet a steroid user". Would they say the same thing about a member with diabetes injecting insulin?" Have you seriously just compared someone self medicating testosterone to improve their looks with someone who has to take insulin for a life threatening illness? | |||
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"I use TRT I cannot recommend it enough for those with dipping T levels. It’s does have enormous wellbeing affects when used therapeutically. Mind and body. I was originally prescribed TRT but will admit I have now bumped the dosages up myself. Don't understand the hate towards it though? I really didn't go into any detail. Getting messages like "Freak", "Would never meet a steroid user". Would they say the same thing about a member with diabetes injecting insulin? Have you seriously just compared someone self medicating testosterone to improve their looks with someone who has to take insulin for a life threatening illness? " Well put. Your last paragraph has hit the problem spot on. This post is just another seeker of applause/self-justification from the fuck you "normals" end of the spectrum. These kind of posts of the "I'm doing so and so on a self-developed/self-diagnosing/Don't need no steenking experts to tell me what to do" mentality aren't going to be fazed in the slightest by even a ton of criticism from anyone with scientific/medical training in this field. Perhaps we'll just have to wait for nature to take its course and then they'll have stopped telling the rest of us how clever they have been | |||
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"I use TRT I cannot recommend it enough for those with dipping T levels. It’s does have enormous wellbeing affects when used therapeutically. Mind and body. I was originally prescribed TRT but will admit I have now bumped the dosages up myself. Don't understand the hate towards it though? I really didn't go into any detail. Getting messages like "Freak", "Would never meet a steroid user". Would they say the same thing about a member with diabetes injecting insulin? Have you seriously just compared someone self medicating testosterone to improve their looks with someone who has to take insulin for a life threatening illness? Well put. Your last paragraph has hit the problem spot on. This post is just another seeker of applause/self-justification from the fuck you "normals" end of the spectrum. These kind of posts of the "I'm doing so and so on a self-developed/self-diagnosing/Don't need no steenking experts to tell me what to do" mentality aren't going to be fazed in the slightest by even a ton of criticism from anyone with scientific/medical training in this field. Perhaps we'll just have to wait for nature to take its course and then they'll have stopped telling the rest of us how clever they have been" | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP?" Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose " Ok! | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! " | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! " Although i don't know if its a steroid or not. I assume not. | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! Although i don't know if its a steroid or not. I assume not. " They are not it helps with serotonin levels. We can talk on pm | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! Although i don't know if its a steroid or not. I assume not. " It's an amino acid | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! Although i don't know if its a steroid or not. I assume not. They are not it helps with serotonin levels. We can talk on pm " Kiked you. X | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! Although i don't know if its a steroid or not. I assume not. It's an amino acid" Oh ta. *nods head like he understands* | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP? Just had a quick read about and it's worth to try, just stick to the recommended daily dose Ok! Although i don't know if its a steroid or not. I assume not. They are not it helps with serotonin levels. We can talk on pm Kiked you. X" | |||
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"Anyone any experience with 5-HTP?" 5-htp is good, l-tyrosine is great, rejuvenates your neurotransmittors and dopamain levels | |||
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"Take it the discussion of drugs in forum rules don't apply here. Wrong sentence on this subject could incriminate, the law can be easily broken but what do I know." Steroids for personal use are not illegal. Can only be prosecuted for supply and manufacture. | |||
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"Take it the discussion of drugs in forum rules don't apply here. Wrong sentence on this subject could incriminate, the law can be easily broken but what do I know. Steroids for personal use are not illegal. Can only be prosecuted for supply and manufacture." Hence why I said "Wrong sentence on this subject could incriminate," people are so blasé about what they say in here | |||
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"Why do you take steroids? I saw a news article a while ago that said steroid use had gone up massively amongst young guys ..the article suggested it was pressure to have the body beautiful and does everyone achieve that? Out of curiously, as I know nothing about steroids. " I doubt it.. it seemed to be unattainable as the target was always moving..get to a certain size and they wanted to be a bit bigger, slimmer depending... similar to the young girls seeing the air brushed models and trying to look like them. | |||
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"There's loads of young guys at the gym I go to who openly chat about what steroids they're on as if it's just perfectly normal. A couple of them are freakishly big and covered in shoulder acne. Working hard on a natural physique obviously isn't good enough anymore " It's now fairly standard for a huge chunk of younger guys. With youth comes immortality of course I can understand the pressure that's now also on men to look good and steroid use is one aspect of this. As a student I come into contact with tons of fit young guys as well as many who are on steroids - it's become standard. Patience isn't something that many younger people are well blessed with. | |||
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"Anyone else on here use AAS? Just started another cycle and jesus christ, been rock hard all day! Cock has been throbbing so hard at work it hurts aha. Gonna need to meet 10x more often now!" The only thing that would do that is Tren, and a heavy dose, or it's accompanying preventative drigs I do hope you know what you're doing, and probably not brilliant to post on a public forum. I k ow a number of people who have ended up without families and worse due to the mood changing side effects of that. Don't be just jumping on the latest band wagon. It will backfire. | |||
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"Anyone else on here use AAS? Just started another cycle and jesus christ, been rock hard all day! Cock has been throbbing so hard at work it hurts aha. Gonna need to meet 10x more often now!" Just looked at your pics and seen you're starting ANOTHER cycle.who on earth is advising you and what did you get from your hopefully first one. I'll be honest and say of you're starting a second or third cycle at that size you are doing it wrong either with training or eating. You could get bigger spending your money on better food, and thats a fact | |||
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" Just looked at your pics and seen you're starting ANOTHER cycle.who on earth is advising you and what did you get from your hopefully first one. I'll be honest and say of you're starting a second or third cycle at that size you are doing it wrong either with training or eating. You could get bigger spending your money on better food, and thats a fact " The guy has a really good physique, he's in better condition than you - yours is another post motivated by jealously. | |||
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"Anyone else on here use AAS? Just started another cycle and jesus christ, been rock hard all day! Cock has been throbbing so hard at work it hurts aha. Gonna need to meet 10x more often now!" What’s wrong with going old hand crank?! | |||
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" Just looked at your pics and seen you're starting ANOTHER cycle.who on earth is advising you and what did you get from your hopefully first one. I'll be honest and say of you're starting a second or third cycle at that size you are doing it wrong either with training or eating. You could get bigger spending your money on better food, and thats a fact The guy has a really good physique, he's in better condition than you - yours is another post motivated by jealously." You can't see mine, lol, and I can assure you I'm far from jealous. So what's your knowledge and experience then or are you just a white Knight after a quicky with the op? | |||
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"Who cares if people use them? The rock didnt become the top paid male in Hollywood because of his acting did he? Every sport uses/has used them, or other performance inhancers. I think if youre not competing and doing it for yourself, then just get educated and work away. If youre competing then youre scum. " That is my only point, nothing against them at all. As long as its done in an educated way and not because some pusher in the gym says they're the latest new thing. And sadly, if you're competing every single one of them is on steroids, or they can't compete, unless it's in one of the natural feds that nobody takes much notice of. | |||
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"Who cares if people use them? The rock didnt become the top paid male in Hollywood because of his acting did he? Every sport uses/has used them, or other performance inhancers. I think if youre not competing and doing it for yourself, then just get educated and work away. If youre competing then youre scum. That is my only point, nothing against them at all. As long as its done in an educated way and not because some pusher in the gym says they're the latest new thing. And sadly, if you're competing every single one of them is on steroids, or they can't compete, unless it's in one of the natural feds that nobody takes much notice of. " Even in the natural feds a very large proportion of competitors are on gear whether it be strongman, powerlifting, weightlifting or bodybuilding. | |||
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"Who cares if people use them? The rock didnt become the top paid male in Hollywood because of his acting did he? Every sport uses/has used them, or other performance inhancers. I think if youre not competing and doing it for yourself, then just get educated and work away. If youre competing then youre scum. That is my only point, nothing against them at all. As long as its done in an educated way and not because some pusher in the gym says they're the latest new thing. And sadly, if you're competing every single one of them is on steroids, or they can't compete, unless it's in one of the natural feds that nobody takes much notice of. Even in the natural feds a very large proportion of competitors are on gear whether it be strongman, powerlifting, weightlifting or bodybuilding. " That is sad and cheating. Didn't realise that. | |||
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" Just looked at your pics and seen you're starting ANOTHER cycle.who on earth is advising you and what did you get from your hopefully first one. I'll be honest and say of you're starting a second or third cycle at that size you are doing it wrong either with training or eating. You could get bigger spending your money on better food, and thats a fact The guy has a really good physique, he's in better condition than you - yours is another post motivated by jealously." Actually I agree with ebonyivory. If the OP has now had several cycles I would expect him to be bigger. Unless it's just an old pic or taken at a bad angle. And also agree that he would prob get better results with a strict diet. It's not about jealousy..gains from steroids don't last. And you don't get side effects from eating clean. | |||
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" Just looked at your pics and seen you're starting ANOTHER cycle.who on earth is advising you and what did you get from your hopefully first one. I'll be honest and say of you're starting a second or third cycle at that size you are doing it wrong either with training or eating. You could get bigger spending your money on better food, and thats a fact The guy has a really good physique, he's in better condition than you - yours is another post motivated by jealously. Actually I agree with ebonyivory. If the OP has now had several cycles I would expect him to be bigger. Unless it's just an old pic or taken at a bad angle. And also agree that he would prob get better results with a strict diet. It's not about jealousy..gains from steroids don't last. And you don't get side effects from eating clean." Thanks and exactly my point, and I'm certain the OP appreciates the intent. It wasn't a criticism, just well intended advice. Jealousy is quite a funny comment, at 19.5 stone and just starting a small cut there aren't many I'm jealous of | |||
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" Just looked at your pics and seen you're starting ANOTHER cycle.who on earth is advising you and what did you get from your hopefully first one. I'll be honest and say of you're starting a second or third cycle at that size you are doing it wrong either with training or eating. You could get bigger spending your money on better food, and thats a fact The guy has a really good physique, he's in better condition than you - yours is another post motivated by jealously. Actually I agree with ebonyivory. If the OP has now had several cycles I would expect him to be bigger. Unless it's just an old pic or taken at a bad angle. And also agree that he would prob get better results with a strict diet. It's not about jealousy..gains from steroids don't last. And you don't get side effects from eating clean. Thanks and exactly my point, and I'm certain the OP appreciates the intent. It wasn't a criticism, just well intended advice. Jealousy is quite a funny comment, at 19.5 stone and just starting a small cut there aren't many I'm jealous of " I'm sitting at 84kg and about 13-15% bodyfat. Not lifting as much as I used to due to lots of niggling injuries but would still give a lot of younger guys a run for their money in the gym.. | |||
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