FabSwingers.com forum: Is it offensive?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hollywood stars have been criticised for taking roles away from transgender or disabled actors. Should minorities on-screen only be represented by minority actors?

Last week, Scarlett Johansson stepped down from a her role as a transgender man following a backlash from the LGBT community.

A few days later, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson was branded hypocritical for calling for more disabled actors on-screen while also taking on the lead role of Will Sawyer - an FBI agent with a prosthetic leg - in his new film Skyscraper.

In this sensitised climate, the traditional belief that acting is founded on portraying someone you're not, is being denounced to the point of toxicity."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44852182

Is it offensive for actors to portray trans, disabled, gay, etc people when they aren't these things? Or is that the whole point of acting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. Next.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No. Next."

So by that analogy, blacking up isn’t offensive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No. Next.

So by that analogy, blacking up isn’t offensive?"

Did you see Tropic Thunder ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there weren't enough disabled actors then I can see why they may want to just non disabled, but there are many disabled actors so there's no excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hang on Hollywood has been letting gay men act as heterosexual for decades..

#RockHudsonbrokemymumsheart.

So If they didn't take these roles it would smack of hypocrisy, also has anyone watched Clarissa in Silent Witless no Bafta dropping through that letterbox anytime soon....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Hollywood stars have been criticised for taking roles away from transgender or disabled actors. Should minorities on-screen only be represented by minority actors?

Last week, Scarlett Johansson stepped down from a her role as a transgender man following a backlash from the LGBT community.

In this sensitised climate, the traditional belief that acting is founded on portraying someone you're not, is being denounced to the point of toxicity."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44852182

Is it offensive for actors to portray trans, disabled, gay, etc people when they aren't these things? Or is that the whole point of acting?"
I think if the actor does his homework and engages with those he's portraying then it's fine ... Dustin Hoffman in Rainman was excellent

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If there weren't enough disabled actors then I can see why they may want to just non disabled, but there are many disabled actors so there's no excuse."

One comment was that the big name stars draw people to the film and an unknown disabled actor wouldn't.

Although a disabled actor won't ever become a big name if they're never allowed to act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's offensive, however it does take away an opportunity for someone who is probably more appropriate for the role. I think it's more about the box office appeal of a star than being disrespectful to other actors, and I doubt if that will change in a hurry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think it's offensive, however it does take away an opportunity for someone who is probably more appropriate for the role. I think it's more about the box office appeal of a star than being disrespectful to other actors, and I doubt if that will change in a hurry."

How would you feel about about a white actor blacking up?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hang on Hollywood has been letting gay men act as heterosexual for decades..

#RockHudsonbrokemymumsheart.

So If they didn't take these roles it would smack of hypocrisy, also has anyone watched Clarissa in Silent Witless no Bafta dropping through that letterbox anytime soon.... "

Good point. There's more openly gay actors in soaps now playing gay roles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Hollywood stars have been criticised for taking roles away from transgender or disabled actors. Should minorities on-screen only be represented by minority actors?

Last week, Scarlett Johansson stepped down from a her role as a transgender man following a backlash from the LGBT community.

In this sensitised climate, the traditional belief that acting is founded on portraying someone you're not, is being denounced to the point of toxicity."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44852182

Is it offensive for actors to portray trans, disabled, gay, etc people when they aren't these things? Or is that the whole point of acting?"

I think the clue is in the text. It’s called acting for a reason. Should sylvester Stallone be criticised for playing a boxer when he wasn’t one or Tom cruise for playing a top gun pilot when he wasn’t one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How would you feel about about a white actor blacking up?"

Like in Tropic Thunder ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If there weren't enough disabled actors then I can see why they may want to just non disabled, but there are many disabled actors so there's no excuse.

One comment was that the big name stars draw people to the film and an unknown disabled actor wouldn't.

Although a disabled actor won't ever become a big name if they're never allowed to act. "

Even small screen uses non disabled to play disabled people; 'big name' doesn't really apply.

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By *layfulCouple86Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

It all depends on the portrayal and context, but that has nothing to do with the actors and more to do with story, script and roles.

So no actors doing their jobs isn't offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit."

'Stupid fucking shit.....'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take the point, but it's for entertainment purposes, not necessarily to share the solely exclusive experiences of that actor?

Where do you draw the line? Tell gay/lesbian/trans people they're not allowed to act in any other role other than that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the non trans/disabled/whatever actor is better at playing that role than someone who is genuinely any of those things then they should get the job.

But it does remind me of the Woody Allen joke about taking a moose to a fancy dress party and it coming in second to a couple dressed as a moose and them then getting into a jealous tussle with antlers locked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job"

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

It's all about the Benjamin's baby. People will pay to see Dwayne Johnson, not so for an actor not heard off.

Unfortunately box office takings trumps doing the "right" thing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" I take the point, but it's for entertainment purposes, not necessarily to share the solely exclusive experiences of that actor?

Where do you draw the line? Tell gay/lesbian/trans people they're not allowed to act in any other role other than that?"

You could probably say that about every single acting role. Unless the role was playing an actor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all about the Benjamin's baby. People will pay to see Dwayne Johnson, not so for an actor not heard off.

Unfortunately box office takings trumps doing the "right" thing.

And small screen stuff?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit."

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?"

Still comes down to who is the better actor... The job is acting, not who has lost a leg...

Does this mean that someone who has lost a leg shouldn't be allowed to play someone with 2 legs????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway? "

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is a bit like using white Character to play Nina Simone, Jesus or Cleopatra...but refusing a black man to play James Bond because the guy is supposed to be white.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The part goes to the better actors or actresses, or perhaps in Dwayne Johnson's case, the fittest.

Maybe he picked that part himself because he wanted to play the part, and with his big name he knows the film will be a hit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor. "

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor. "

Really??? There are LOADS of crap actors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended."

Can't you get that there are disabled actors who aren't getting cast because able bodied actors are taking the roles?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a Down Syndrome girl in a Netflix series who was very good. If the part calls for a disabled person then they should audition disabled too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended."

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The part goes to the better actors or actresses, or perhaps in Dwayne Johnson's case, the fittest.

Maybe he picked that part himself because he wanted to play the part, and with his big name he knows the film will be a hit?

I wonder who made the decision for the man he's playing to have a prosthetic leg. And why. Off to have a look....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

But it's not just about presence. It's about the roles. Loads of black actors played "black" roles of being savages or slaves or house help or voodoo witchdoctors or criminals. But really such roles may well have been played by blacked up white actors for all the implicit racism in them. Thankfully now we have tremendous black actors playing more neutral roles about lawyers etc.

In a similar way surely the better breakthrough isn't to use trans or disabled people to play those roles. But to play other roles. On this lines there was a Peter Dinkage film I watched recently that, if I recall correctly, made absolutely nothing of him being a dwarf. He simply played the lead role, as if that was totally to be expected. That's progress imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway? "

I haven't seen anyone suggesting that . "Big" names put me off paying to watch a film, if the film was based on struggles with being disabled/trans/gay etc, I would much rather watch someone who has actually lived through those struggles and bring that experience to the role *who can act as well*, rather than someone who is there because people know who they are.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

I think this case gets specific attention because scarjo got in trouble for white washing in ghost in the shell when the character in the anime is obviously Asian. So being the second time she's taken a role over others more appropriate for it has just highlighted the issue of representation in hollywood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?"

I couldnt give a shit.

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By *woyoungbunsCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

It's very short-sighted to dismiss things as unimportant when they simply aren't important to you.

The article covers how difficult it is for disabled actors to find work, and I've heard this of transgender actors also.

When this is the case, and yet 95% of roles perfectly suited for disabled actors are being taken by people who could have any role, this is a problem. It's going up to a buffet and needlessly eating all the gluten-free bread, leaving whoever relies on that bread with nothing. In this case, it's not just bread at a buffet - it's their entire livelihood. How they pay the rent and provide for their families.

It seems quite clearly the wrong thing to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

You probably couldn't. However, being excluded from a job you are perfectly capable of because of a disability is fucking shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit."

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?"

But not necessarily a good enough actor for the role!

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

In the same argument what about leonardo DiCaprio in blood diamond... did he take the role from a perfectly good Zimbabwean?

Where does it stop? Moaning bloody Minnie’s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me? "

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So are we saying Eddie Redmayne shouldn’t have played Stephen Hawking because he’s able bodied, even though he was fucking brilliant in the role and the likeness is uncanny. Or Daniel Day Lewis the greatest actor of a generation should have played the role in My Left Foot his best performance, which would deny us a fucking genius ?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?

But not necessarily a good enough actor for the role!"

The point is non disabled actors are taking roles that can be played by disabled actors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about a situation where the character in the play/film starts off in the story, not disabled. The able bodied actor can play both parts but the disabled actor would struggle to play the able bodied part.

The theory of everything-Steven Hawkins.

Reach for the sky-Douglas Bader.

Sure there must be many more.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

They are acting ....and have to do a lot of research to portray that character ... ...no one complained when Daniel day lewis portrayed the character in MY LEFT FOOT .... other actors are available ... all this political correctness is crazy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So are we saying Eddie Redmayne shouldn’t have played Stephen Hawking because he’s able bodied, even though he was fucking brilliant in the role and the likeness is uncanny. Or Daniel Day Lewis the greatest actor of a generation should have played the role in My Left Foot his best performance, which would deny us a fucking genius ?! "

Or Eddie Redmayne in The Danish girl.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the same argument what about leonardo DiCaprio in blood diamond... did he take the role from a perfectly good Zimbabwean?

Where does it stop? Moaning bloody Minnie’s "

Moaning minnies. Disabled people are moaning minnies.

Fuck, I hate society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It annoyed me when Brad Pitt was in The Devils own and don't think he should have got that role but thought Leonardo Di Caprio was outstanding in What's eating Gilbert Grape x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The part goes to the better actors or actresses, or perhaps in Dwayne Johnson's case, the fittest.

Maybe he picked that part himself because he wanted to play the part, and with his big name he knows the film will be a hit?

I wonder who made the decision for the man he's playing to have a prosthetic leg. And why. Off to have a look...."

Oh, I thought it was a film about a real life disabled person he was portraying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you."

i couldnt give a shit about the "argument". People are too easily offended on other peoples behalves. But sure, moaning about it on a swingers forum will definitely solve the issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know how the auditioning works for big films but do smaller films and tv send out ads to acting agencies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't find it offensive or inappropriate per se. I mean the film or tv programme itself might be, but not because of who plays the role.

Would a tg actor enjoy being told that they are only allowed to portray tg characters? Acting is acting, a good actor will portray a well-written character convincingly regardless of how close to their own life it is.

There's an issue with tg and some other minorities being underrepresented in film and television, but I don't think that laying down rules about who can play what roles is really the way forward.

On a similar theme, what if only tg were allowed to write tg-related storylines and screenplay? Perhaps only women should be allowed to write screenplay involving women, nobody should be allowed to write about or act any part or issue unless they have direct personal experience of it. And so on and so on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you.

i couldnt give a shit about the "argument". People are too easily offended on other peoples behalves. But sure, moaning about it on a swingers forum will definitely solve the issue.

Offended on others behalf? You know what, I'm so glsd there are non disabled people prepared to support disabled people. Without them, and if society was left to people with your attitude, my life would be a million times worse.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"In the same argument what about leonardo DiCaprio in blood diamond... did he take the role from a perfectly good Zimbabwean?

Where does it stop? Moaning bloody Minnie’s

Moaning minnies. Disabled people are moaning minnies.

Fuck, I hate society."

I know a fair few that aren't but if the cap fits.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The part goes to the better actors or actresses, or perhaps in Dwayne Johnson's case, the fittest.

Maybe he picked that part himself because he wanted to play the part, and with his big name he knows the film will be a hit?

I wonder who made the decision for the man he's playing to have a prosthetic leg. And why. Off to have a look....

Oh, I thought it was a film about a real life disabled person he was portraying. "

I can't find anything but then I'm crap at looking.

From the trailers, it's a disaster movie type thing. Massive skyscraper with terrorists, Dwayne's film family get trapped at the top and he has to dangle off a building to save them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2SkZA0FKmAw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?

But not necessarily a good enough actor for the role!

The point is non disabled actors are taking roles that can be played by disabled actors."

Maybe, just maybe these disabled actors just are not good enough for the roles. Just a thought!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the same argument what about leonardo DiCaprio in blood diamond... did he take the role from a perfectly good Zimbabwean?

Where does it stop? Moaning bloody Minnie’s

Moaning minnies. Disabled people are moaning minnies.

Fuck, I hate society.

I know a fair few that aren't but if the cap fits."

Your fucking kidding me. Moaning minnies because their livelihoods are being undermined? Geez.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't find it offensive or inappropriate per se. I mean the film or tv programme itself might be, but not because of who plays the role.

There's an issue with tg and some other minorities being underrepresented in film and television, but I don't think that laying down rules about who can play what roles is really the way forward.

I agree with this.

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By *woyoungbunsCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Or Eddie Redmayne in The Danish girl. "

That would be the more clear one. Daniela Vega's performance in A Fantastic Woman was brilliant and there's no reason why Danish Girl couldn't have had similar casting.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"In the same argument what about leonardo DiCaprio in blood diamond... did he take the role from a perfectly good Zimbabwean?

Where does it stop? Moaning bloody Minnie’s

Moaning minnies. Disabled people are moaning minnies.

Is it disabled people complaining though cos I can bet my bottom dollar it’s most likely not. Anyway comment wasn’t about just disabled people was it? Was about all the different scenarios

Fuck, I hate society."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?

But not necessarily a good enough actor for the role!

The point is non disabled actors are taking roles that can be played by disabled actors.

Maybe, just maybe these disabled actors just are not good enough for the roles. Just a thought!!"

Maybe, just maybe these disabled actors are being discriminated against. Just a thought!!!

Not least as it's the most likely.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's called "acting" so the best actor should always get the job regardless of their physical capabilities, race, gender etc...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that’s the whole point of acting. To be something your not.

Take Sam Clafin in me before you. He’s not paralysed nor is he planning on ending his life (I hope!!) but he performed that role so well and put one of my favourite books on the big screen so well.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"I don't find it offensive or inappropriate per se. I mean the film or tv programme itself might be, but not because of who plays the role.

There's an issue with tg and some other minorities being underrepresented in film and television, but I don't think that laying down rules about who can play what roles is really the way forward.

Agreed.

I, in my probably scorned upon opinion, feel like it is simply like any other job, you hire the person who you feel is best for the role. As with any other job in the land, that able bodied people apply for, there are times when employers will take on an employee because they're a family friend or whatever other reason. Fact is, they're the person paying the wages, they're the person with the final say. Who do they have to blame if they employee turns out to be a bit wank..... themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

I'm pretty sure the rock could fake missing a leg and perform in and action movie way better than I could... Just missing a leg doesn't make you 'appropriate' for an ACTING job

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?

But not necessarily a good enough actor for the role!

The point is non disabled actors are taking roles that can be played by disabled actors.

Maybe, just maybe these disabled actors just are not good enough for the roles. Just a thought!!

Maybe, just maybe these disabled actors are being discriminated against. Just a thought!!!

Not least as it's the most likely..... "

Well let's just put disabled or transgendered people in the roles whether they can act or not. See how long they have a livelihood then!!

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"In the same argument what about leonardo DiCaprio in blood diamond... did he take the role from a perfectly good Zimbabwean?

Where does it stop? Moaning bloody Minnie’s

Moaning minnies. Disabled people are moaning minnies.

Fuck, I hate society.

I know a fair few that aren't but if the cap fits.

Your fucking kidding me. Moaning minnies because their livelihoods are being undermined? Geez."

It's "you're" and I wasn't referring to others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done to the OP, this has everything to fill a thread, sexuality, race, disability, gender, political correctness and people getting offended. The perfect storm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you.

i couldnt give a shit about the "argument". People are too easily offended on other peoples behalves. But sure, moaning about it on a swingers forum will definitely solve the issue.

Dont presume you know anything of my life. You know fuck all about me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's called "acting" so the best actor should always get the job regardless of their physical capabilities, race, gender etc... "

That's not always the case. Cinema is mostly a money making business, therefore casting the actor that people like the most may be a strategy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, its only acting. Nothing offensive about someone acting as a trans person, nothing offensive about a white person blacking up, nothing offensive about someone acting disabled for a movie. Yes these roles could go to genuine trans or disabled people but its Hollywood and only after one thing... money, big stars draw an audience which will make more money.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple
over a year ago

chester

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?"

So what? The choice isn't about positive discrimination as so beloved by the PC brigade and as pushed by the minority brigade when they see a job opportunity they can make exclusively their own.

The choice should simply be of all the possibilities a) who is the better actor and b) who will also bring in the bums on seats.

Unless of course you'd like to underwrite the studios for any loss sustained if they go all PC?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's called "acting" so the best actor should always get the job regardless of their physical capabilities, race, gender etc... "

Tom Cruise played Jack Reacher ffs, a 6,4 blonde man played by a 5’6 brunette.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck."

Then stop viewing yourself as a disability and start viewing yourself as more than that.

Christ woman, the amount of people who've tried to talk to you and you berate them is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck."

How do they view you? I think you're just the same as me, better looking of course but I also see no problem with a non disabled actor playing a role. In fact it'll test their acting skills. It's acting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you.

i couldnt give a shit about the "argument". People are too easily offended on other peoples behalves. But sure, moaning about it on a swingers forum will definitely solve the issue.

Dont presume you know anything of my life. You know fuck all about me."

You shown me enough.

Well. This thread had certainly given me the motivation to do something I should've done a long time ago. Thanks op.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck."

It's ironic that you feel this way but don't see what you was saying on that trans thread the other day is the exact same thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

It's ironic that you feel this way but don't see what you was saying on that trans thread the other day is the exact same thing"

Boom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, an actors job is to pretend to be someone they're not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you.

i couldnt give a shit about the "argument". People are too easily offended on other peoples behalves. But sure, moaning about it on a swingers forum will definitely solve the issue.

Dont presume you know anything of my life. You know fuck all about me.

You shown me enough.

Well. This thread had certainly given me the motivation to do something I should've done a long time ago. Thanks op.

Fiver says you dont do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chips anyone?

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

"I think that’s the whole point of acting. To be something your not.

Take Sam Clafin in me before you. He’s not paralysed nor is he planning on ending his life (I hope!!) but he performed that role so well and put one of my favourite books on the big screen so well. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that if the character is fictional, anybody should be able to play them. Different matter for real people though, MLK shouldn't be played by Gary Oldman and Churchill shouldn't be played by Lenny Henry for example (although both would be hilarious). Whoopi Goldberg portraying god in the muppets movie is a whole other topic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chips anyone?"

All I want is to get my penis sucked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they let 5 foot 7 Tom Cruise portray 6 foot 5 Jack Reacher then anything is fair game!!

Still refuse to watch it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked "

This is offensive to people without a penis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone should be able to audition for any role and the one who performs the role the best should get the part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think that if the character is fictional, anybody should be able to play them. Different matter for real people though, MLK shouldn't be played by Gary Oldman and Churchill shouldn't be played by Lenny Henry for example (although both would be hilarious). Whoopi Goldberg portraying god in the muppets movie is a whole other topic

Same for disabled or transgender characters too - I didn't agree with Eddie Redmayne playing Stephen Hawking.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked

This is offensive to people without a penis"

You can film yourself sucking my CGI penis if you like?

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple
over a year ago

chester

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor? "

You're over-reacting, looking to be offended.

Nobody was offended by Kenneth More portraying Douglas Bader (who was alive and very fit and well at the time) in Fight for the Sky (based on the book Reach for the Sky).

For the uninformed out there :Group Captain Douglas Bader CBE, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar, DL, FRAeS was a Royal Air Force flying ace during the Second World War.

Lost both legs just prior to the war in an aircrash. Flew Spitfires and Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked

This is offensive to people without a penis

You can film yourself sucking my CGI penis if you like?"

I find this offense as I don't have a CGI penis

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Same for disabled or transgender characters too - I didn't agree with Eddie Redmayne playing Stephen Hawking."

Do you think they should have swapped actors half way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck."

I don't think many of the responses here are about you or (if you're using the royal "we") any broader minority group. Most people are reacting against the notion of positive discrimination. Women have long argued against being hired purely because they're a woman. I think most people can intuitively sense how this principle applies across the board.

Having said that, however, I do think that some people can be naive to the fact that discrimination is taking place in this world of ours. When I was a kid I was taken to a performance of Othello with a black actor. Apparently it was a big deal. I found it a bit bizarre that it wasn't the norm. Crazy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But more 'appropriate' could mean a better skilled actor...

And a person that actually had lost a leg AND was an actor?

You're over-reacting, looking to be offended.

Nobody was offended by Kenneth More portraying Douglas Bader (who was alive and very fit and well at the time) in Fight for the Sky (based on the book Reach for the Sky).

For the uninformed out there :Group Captain Douglas Bader CBE, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar, DL, FRAeS was a Royal Air Force flying ace during the Second World War.

Lost both legs just prior to the war in an aircrash. Flew Spitfires and Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain."

Being pointlessly offended hadn't been invented back then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they let 5 foot 7 Tom Cruise portray 6 foot 5 Jack Reacher then anything is fair game!!

Still refuse to watch it

I can't believe how many people that upset! I'd never heard of Reacher before the Cruise film.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

And if they arent an actor there is no reason for them to get offended.

Why? Would you be OK if all people like you were excluded from acting themselves in TV or film?

I couldnt give a shit.

Bullshit.

Im sorry, i forget everyone on here knows my intentions better than i do. forgive me?

You want to win the argument and/or you don't have the imagination to understand the point. It's merely fucking stupid shit to you.

i couldnt give a shit about the "argument". People are too easily offended on other peoples behalves. But sure, moaning about it on a swingers forum will definitely solve the issue.

Dont presume you know anything of my life. You know fuck all about me.

You shown me enough.

Well. This thread had certainly given me the motivation to do something I should've done a long time ago. Thanks op.

To lighten up?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

This is another instance of us, society, being at one of those moments of change.

More roles at all levels should reflect society. This would give actors with protected characteristics the same chance as mainstream actors to learn and hone their craft.

The roles are so few and far between that we end up with no one but a 'big name' being suitable as everyone else hasn't had an opportunity to become popular.

Over here we also have an issue that our acting royalty are nearly all upper middle class.

I think someone mentioned the Black James Bond issue. People seem unable to suspend their belief for an entirely fictional character being represented by someone of colour yet are happy to defend 'believing' an able bodied actor representing a disabled character.

As we have more actors of colour being given opportunities and becoming popular it is now a thing that we can even moot having a Black James Bond. With more actors with disabilities or different genders gaining a foothold we'll be able to moot them taking on roles previously seen as able bodied etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked

This is offensive to people without a penis

You can film yourself sucking my CGI penis if you like?"

Bloody autocorrect I meant vagina*

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone"

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck."
.....

No one is viewing you as anything .....if you want to be an actress .... go train as one ... the girl in eastenders who is physically diaabled and uses a wheel chair ...has been an actress for years ... she was also in peter kay comedy episodes ... but she is a good actress .... because she trained as an actress ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman "

This particular character is ftm not mtf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it just acting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

This particular character is ftm not mtf"

The one Scar Jo was playing? Thought it was the other way around, my bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe Bruce Jenner should play the role, after all she really is beautiful and an American hero. Right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked

This is offensive to people without a penis

You can film yourself sucking my CGI penis if you like?

Bloody autocorrect I meant vagina* "

This is offensive to people who don't have Auto correct.

.....that's enough, I could do this all day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck."

Please don't think everyone is unable to empathise and act on behalf of others. There are millions of us who care about equality, and work for a world where race, gender, sexuality or disability are less and less of a barrier to opportunity. Progress is way too slow but I think it is happening x

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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Speaking of actors..

I once went out with a lass that's now an actress in emmerdale.. true story .

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked

This is offensive to people without a penis

You can film yourself sucking my CGI penis if you like?

Bloody autocorrect I meant vagina*

This is offensive to people who don't have Auto correct.

.....that's enough, I could do this all day"

Donald trump.. that you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe Bruce Jenner should play the role, after all she really is beautiful and an American hero. Right?"

South Park fan?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or Eddie Redmayne in The Danish girl. "

To be fair Eddie Redmayne looked better in a dress than most trans do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person"

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chips anyone?

All I want is to get my penis sucked

This is offensive to people without a penis

You can film yourself sucking my CGI penis if you like?

Bloody autocorrect I meant vagina*

This is offensive to people who don't have Auto correct.

.....that's enough, I could do this all day

Donald trump.. that you?"

Nope, Captain America!

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor. "

Have you seen "Doctors" ?

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Well that escalated quickly.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Well that escalated quickly. "

Right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman "

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

She got back what she gave

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?"

Here we go

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

nobody rounded on her. It’s a platform for debating differing opinions and she took each as though it was a personal dig at her... which none of it was

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

You wasn't in the other thread where she constantly dismissed and belittled trans people. I'm not going to be nicer to someone just because they have a disability, I'm pretty certain that's the exact opposite of what most disabled people would want. If she can give it, she can take it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

i do, mostly because of the porn i watch tho

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

Should have seen some of the shit she would write about others.

Doubt she was ashamed about that

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"[i did not day that.....rude word Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:37:53]"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person"

I'd like to think she was just upset about her predicament too much and letting it define her too much and that, underneath it all, if you could ever get beyond her defenses, she was probably a beautiful but very wounded soul. But I know she'd have bitten my head off for saying that and would far rather people just thought she was a nasty piece of work. Shame. Very self undermining and, ultimately, unable to see she was making things more of an issue than she herself wanted it to be. I hope she moves on to better and more healing things. Everyone deserves a shot at happiness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves.

Should have seen some of the shit she would write about others.

Doubt she was ashamed about that"

Totally dismissive of men on here and trans people.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

This poster daily told people to mind their own business, not partake in threads, told people to go fuck themselves if they offered her friendship and nothing more.

This poster would create arguments when there were none to be had.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

Johnny Come Lately.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple
over a year ago

chester

Being pointlessly offended hadn't been invented back then

Thanks. You're dead right, and it's a pity it's now become a bloody industry popping up at every perceived opportunity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

She would have wheely like to read this "

There is a special place in hell for people like you.

See you there yea?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

So right. Even if we had an argument because she didnt want to suck on my penis I hope she is okay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]"

No wonder you removed it.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]"

now THAT, was funny :D

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]"

Sorry,typo.

Really. She would have really liked that comment soul...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves.

This poster daily told people to mind their own business, not partake in threads, told people to go fuck themselves if they offered her friendship and nothing more.

This poster would create arguments when there were none to be had.

She also said she had no respect for men on Fab, then started a thread about looking for a relationship on here.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]

No wonder you removed it....."

With my Allen key and wrench

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]

now THAT, was funny :D "

What??

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"The whole point of being an actor is to pretend to be something you are not. People want to stop getting offended about stupid fucking shit.

Offended? Or just wanting to see people like them on screen? Its about time the world actually woke up to what disabled people can do, instead of focusing on what they can't.

What if they cant act? Cast them anyway?

If they cant act, they wouldn't be an actor.

Have you seen "Doctors" ? "

I love Doctors but some of the performances from the leads remind me of Crossroads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

She was like the disabled version of that Asian fella that always fired off terrible abuse and ‘it’s cos I’m brown you closed minded ****’ when the ladies said ‘no’

He lived 250 miles from me... but of course it’s ‘cos I is brown’.

Me and my Asian ex husband laughed for days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]

now THAT, was funny :D

What??

I know nothing

ironically a catchphrase of a spanish waiter played by an englishman.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads "

Externally she was attractive, not so much on the inside

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads

Externally she was attractive"

you too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?

Here we go

Meaning what?

I'm just saying why shouldn't somebody make a movie about a transwoman who looks like Hulk Hogan if they want to, and why should transwomen be beautiful in order to be seen in a positive light?

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]

now THAT, was funny :D

What??

I know nothing

ironically a catchphrase of a spanish waiter played by an englishman."

Oh. That's offensive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is another instance of us, society, being at one of those moments of change.

More roles at all levels should reflect society. This would give actors with protected characteristics the same chance as mainstream actors to learn and hone their craft.

The roles are so few and far between that we end up with no one but a 'big name' being suitable as everyone else hasn't had an opportunity to become popular.

Over here we also have an issue that our acting royalty are nearly all upper middle class.

Well said, Lickety.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Can we sue fawlty towers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person"

Well I’ve been chatting to her for a couple of weeks and she’s lovely actually, totally different to how she comes across on some threads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?

Here we go

Meaning what?

I'm just saying why shouldn't somebody make a movie about a transwoman who looks like Hulk Hogan if they want to, and why should transwomen be beautiful in order to be seen in a positive light?

Because beautiful people are seen more positively than ugly people.

It's just the way the world is

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

They use amputees as extras in war scenes etc, but very rare in lead roles and I do believe that is more down to the name of the star attracting bigger audiences.

Some tv producers and directors are now auditioning more disabled actors for tv as more disabled people are getting actively involved with stage schools and performance centres

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 18/07/18 20:40:40]

now THAT, was funny :D

What??

I know nothing

ironically a catchphrase of a spanish waiter played by an englishman.

Oh. That's offensive "

only to the offended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still... I guess we have the answer to the op. Is it offensive? Yep. It certainly would seem to be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads

Externally she was attractive, not so much on the inside"

Looking at this thread, that could be levelled at many here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads

Externally she was attractive, not so much on the inside"

Do you know her personally do you? She’s gone now so it’s unfair to continue to talk about her when she’s not here to defend herself.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Am I offended that actors play roles such as

Forrest Gump?

People with cancer?

No.

Should we then use actual rapists murders and gunmen in films?

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads

Externally she was attractive, not so much on the inside

Looking at this thread, that could be levelled at many here."

I've got an asshole

I am an asshole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?

Here we go

Meaning what?

I'm just saying why shouldn't somebody make a movie about a transwoman who looks like Hulk Hogan if they want to, and why should transwomen be beautiful in order to be seen in a positive light?

Because beautiful people are seen more positively than ugly people.

It's just the way the world is"

The world is what we make it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I offended that actors play roles such as

Forrest Gump?

People with cancer?

No.

Should we then use actual rapists murders and gunmen in films?

Yes. It really pissed me off when an Australian was cast to play the God of Thunder. How hard can it be to find an Asgardian!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?

Here we go

Meaning what?

I'm just saying why shouldn't somebody make a movie about a transwoman who looks like Hulk Hogan if they want to, and why should transwomen be beautiful in order to be seen in a positive light?

Because beautiful people are seen more positively than ugly people.

It's just the way the world is

The world is what we make it

A shit hole ruined by greed, self obsession and corruption

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves."

I’m just reading thread now after a brief glance at about four posts in earlier. I’m really disappointed, nay angry at the cunty comments personally to Elpis, regardless of what you may have thought of some of her opinions or own posting style. No fucking empathy or tact.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Anyway the answer is

Yes. It is offensive... to those who wish to see offence

To others it is not.

So really there is no answer. It’s subjective and personal.

The answer is.. there is no answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I should avoid these threads, I know they're going to show me how the general public really view me. Upset as fuck.

Too late, she’s gone

No loss tbh, she really wasn't a particularly nice person

Dear God. I'm genuinely shocked at the way that poster was rounded on.

Her voice, opinion and feelings were totally dismissed on this thread. No wonder some disabled people feel marginalised.

Some of you should feel fucking ashamed of yourselves.

Johnny Come Lately. "

I think she got what she deserved!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see why the trans community (or some of them) would object to Scar Jo playing a trans woman. She's gorgeous and would show trans women in a positive light.

Or would it be better if a Hulk Hogan look a like portrade a trans woman

Maybe that's a humorous comment, but why not? Are only traditionally beautiful transwomen acceptable?

Here we go

Meaning what?

I'm just saying why shouldn't somebody make a movie about a transwoman who looks like Hulk Hogan if they want to, and why should transwomen be beautiful in order to be seen in a positive light?

Because beautiful people are seen more positively than ugly people.

It's just the way the world is

The world is what we make it

Personally I'd make it with more Scartlet Johanssons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If everyone would like make there way to my thread ‘Do women like jam doughnuts ?’ there is light refreshments and jam doughnuts there, no one should get offended there !

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I viewed her profile before she left. I fancied her tbh haha but I didn't see her comments on other threads

Externally she was attractive, not so much on the inside

Do you know her personally do you? She’s gone now so it’s unfair to continue to talk about her when she’s not here to defend herself. "
no, but I've had several run ins with her. Maybe that comment was slightly out of order and she may be a lot nicer in real life, but on these forums she came across as offensive, dismissive, insulting and transphobic. I call it as I see it to be honest.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

I'm so old I can remember Peter Cook taking the piss out of Dudley Moore because he was auditioning to play Tarzan but he only had one leg.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Post number 181, yay me

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Oh my.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the Answer to the question is No, it is not offensive for an actor to act. That’s their job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it wouldn’t be acting if every role was played by a person who was pretty much the character they are supposed to portray. That’s just filming people as they are in real life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or yes, it throws up a lot of questions around inequality of opportunity, which is separate to saying an X actor can never do a Y actor role, it just asks if we have the set up where Y actors get the opportunity really to compete for Y actor roles yet...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah, the answer is still No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In your opinion.

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