FabSwingers.com forum: Bowie a bit shit?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

99% brilliant 1% crap

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

His 90s stuff alone is more than 1%, and is irredeemable.

Currently playing "Hallo Spaceboy" Mary mother of God this is shit.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

The thing about Bowie is that he changed his style so often, he naturally alienates people who knew a similar sound every time an artist they like releases a record.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

* want a similar sound.

Autocarrot is on one today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alot of Bowie seems awful now.

At the time though, it seemed totally cutting edge and ridiculously cool.

Not much has stood the test of time, but, spiders from Mars is a truly classic album, as is young Americans. And transformer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The thing about Bowie is that he changed his style so often, he naturally alienates people who knew a similar sound every time an artist they like releases a record."

Yes, that's true, but Aladin Sane, Ziggy and The Thin White Duke are incredible "periods" which all had some crap. And were followed by mostly crap IMHO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The 1970's were weird times, but Bowie was outstanding, if baffling at times.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

100% genius

David Bowie at Wembley Live Aid

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPDFseqGM8

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Transformer."

Some of the Lou Reed and Iggy stuff is brilliant.

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By *NACONDA1000Man
over a year ago

buncrana

"Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

Thanks to your post, I'm just after catching the end of the show. It all seemed pretty good to me.....think the show was only an hour long, so I imagine they would have stuck mainly to his biggest hits? (of which there were plenty)

What specifically were the songs that you found to be crap, buddy?

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By *NACONDA1000Man
over a year ago

buncrana

"100% genius

David Bowie at Wembley Live Aid

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPDFseqGM8"

Was probably one of the Top 3 performances at Live Aid...along with Queen & U2

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

What specifically were the songs that you found to be crap, buddy?

Anything post 1990. Most post 1983.

There was a couple of shows before that. First was on Ziggy album (all great). But even a bit of the 1970s stuff and most of the 1960s stuff is just plain bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of it, like "her bipperty bopperty hat" may seem incomprehensible, but if you consume copious amounts of drugs, as he did writing it, it all makes sense?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Now showing classic BeeGees.

Not stop greatness.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Yes he’s overrated.

Love the Bee Gees though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you dont like some bowie songs,so what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even the best acts have dozens of weaker songs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So you dont like some bowie songs,so what? "

Great input fella.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"So you dont like some bowie songs,so what?

Great input fella.

Not speaking for Dash, but name a track that you didn't like then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So you dont like some bowie songs,so what?

Great input fella.

Not speaking for Dash, but name a track that you didn't like then?"

Already said Hallo Space boy. But have Never Let Me Down as another.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Hallo space boy is an absolute stinker.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"So you dont like some bowie songs,so what?

Great input fella.

Not speaking for Dash, but name a track that you didn't like then?

Already said Hallo Space boy. But have Never Let Me Down as another. "

Those songs have depth and meaning though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hunky Dory is wonderful. One of my all-time favourite albums by anybody

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So you dont like some bowie songs,so what?

Great input fella.

Not speaking for Dash, but name a track that you didn't like then?

Already said Hallo Space boy. But have Never Let Me Down as another.

Those songs have depth and meaning though. "

So does a colonoscopy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hunky Dory is wonderful. One of my all-time favourite albums by anybody

Agreed his best Album. Better than the Ziggy stuff that followed.

Kooks is a personal favourite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He did a couple of good ones. Mostly stuff I didn't like, but he's forgiven as he did labyrinth

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple
over a year ago

bradford

Was talking about Bowie at work today, we all agreed that he had a crap voice really but he totally delivered certain songs regardless because they were (some of them) really well written! Our fave is moonage daydream! Not overrated! He earned his position in the musical history books!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember seeing him at the Dome in Brighton just after Aladdin Sane was released. Of course at the time everyone was of the opinion he was finished and that Aladdin Sane was a total sell out of his values. Didn't stop us buying tickets and screaming our support at one of the most amazing gigs ever. I don't think there was a dry eye in the house when they did the Bewley Brothers.

Got my live in girlfriend wet in the gusset and we had some most invigorating sex after the gig. Was a fuck session that I still reminisce about.

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

I argue with my partner about music all the time, we all like different music, we’ll never all agree. I couldn’t name a David Bowie song if my life depended on it, he had his fan base but 1 of the greats, no way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His 90s stuff alone is more than 1%, and is irredeemable.

Currently playing "Hallo Spaceboy" Mary mother of God this is shit."

Firstly I have to be one of the biggest Bowie fans in the world, but there are some phases of his career that have completely left me cold. I rather like Hallo Space boy actually, but that might be because I associate it with that video of him singing in a perverted vicar's outfit in kitten heels looking sexy as fuck (which he was wont to do). Oh you've got me all hot and bothered now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cha cha cha changes

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"I argue with my partner about music all the time, we all like different music, we’ll never all agree. I couldn’t name a David Bowie song if my life depended on it, he had his fan base but 1 of the greats, no way "

You must live on Mars then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You must live on Mars then

Is there life there?

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

You must live on Mars then

I’d happily live there providing I don’t have to listen to his music. Each to their own, i just happen to think he was so overrated but what do I know ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does a genius who changes not only music but fashion and I dare say some aspect of society need to sound amazing? Bob Dylan sounds awful but his music powered movements against governments.

Analysis of Bowie music shows an influence as big as the Beatles, his androgynous fashion paved the way for people to be openly bisexual and he wasn't up his own backside like a damn mot are at the moment.

Oh and labyrinth. One of the best movies as a kid!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your partner must win the argument every time if your musical knowledge has such a gaping hole in it .

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

Your partner must win the argument every time if your musical knowledge has such a gaping hole in it ."

No, she’s coming round to my way of thinking now??. If not liking David Bowie “ leaves a gaping hole in my music knowledge” who cares? Define “ music knowledge”. I don’t dispute his talent, just not what I’d listen to ??

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By *iguy55Man
over a year ago

South West

Saw him in Sydney 1983 Serious Moonlight Tour. Refused to play his old stuff as was promoting his new album. Wasn't so keen on it then love it now. An Icon who pushed boundaries sad that his latter stuff is weird but maybe I'm just getting old.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your partner must win the argument every time if your musical knowledge has such a gaping hole in it .

Not being able to name a Bowie song if your life depended on it is a gaping hole.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Each to there own.

Some people will love Bowie, some won’t.

Even “the Beatles” will have people who don’t like them

Same as any music/group/artist

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

Your partner must win the argument every time if your musical knowledge has such a gaping hole in it .

Not being able to name a Bowie song if your life depended on it is a gaping hole."

Let’s hope no one ever holds a gun to my head and asks the question then as they’ll leave a gaping hole in my head??. What a boring world it would be if we all liked the same thing

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I only like David Bowie in the labyrinth

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"I only like David Bowie in the labyrinth "

I just watched that the other day, still brilliant.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

I had a lot of his albums as a kid in the 70s .... his old less heard stuff was brilliant in its time. .. but when he started doing pop stuff .... I went off him ...... and as for the laughing gnome ..... well .

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By *ldguyMan
over a year ago

ongar

"Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

Bowie overrated...my god what planet are you on! Here's one for you "Wild is the Wind"....true genius

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

Bowie overrated...my god what planet are you on! Here's one for you "Wild is the Wind"....true genius"

Yes I'm having that played at my funeral as the guests come in

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Like anything that relies on personal taste, everyone has their own opinions and are of course entitled to them - there was a similar thread to this about The Beatles the other week and the responses were similar.

I had an English teacher that used to quote the Latin phrase "do gustibus non disputandum" at us when we said a book was rubbish - the translation being "There's no argument in taste" and it's very true and certainly applies to threads like this.

That said like him or not, there's no arguing that Bowie was an extraordinary talent who influenced many and shaped music and purely based on record/ticket sales alone could never be described as overrated regardless of whether you like him or not.

I'm by no means his biggest fan and only really know the greatest hits package but he ranks up there with the best based on that alone.

That said there are some tracks, particularly from his later years, that do nothing for me.

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By *ldguyMan
over a year ago

ongar

"Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

Bowie overrated...my god what planet are you on! Here's one for you "Wild is the Wind"....true genius

Yes I'm having that played at my funeral as the guests come in"

I'm having Father and son (cat Stevens) for mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Watching BBC4's Bowie night and, amongst some admittedly great stuff there's a helluva lot of crap.

Is Bowie overrated? Or if not, is he prone to utter tosh more often than some lesser artists?

Bowie overrated...my god what planet are you on! Here's one for you "Wild is the Wind"....true genius

Yes I'm having that played at my funeral as the guests come in

I'm having Father and son (cat Stevens) for mine

That's a beautiful song and am sure will be very cathartic for all present

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Each to there own.

Some people will love Bowie, some won’t.

Even “the Beatles” will have people who don’t like them

Same as any music/group/artist

What! Even Sugababes??? Pick a line up, any line up

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By *eus n EuropaCouple
over a year ago

louth

"The thing about Bowie is that he changed his style so often, he naturally alienates people who knew a similar sound every time an artist they like releases a record."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was lucky enough to see him live at the old Wembley at Net Aid in 1999 before it got bashed down. He was absolutely brilliant!

Obviously he didn't play any of the naff stuff that he did though

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

"Each to there own.

Some people will love Bowie, some won’t.

Even “the Beatles” will have people who don’t like them

Same as any music/group/artist

What! Even Sugababes??? Pick a line up, any line up

Like I said, each to there own

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Each to there own.

Some people will love Bowie, some won’t.

Even “the Beatles” will have people who don’t like them

Same as any music/group/artist

What! Even Sugababes??? Pick a line up, any line up

Like I said, each to there own"

I'm a Rock & Blues man, but I like a bit of variation occasionally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I can say is you only know of Bowie's most played song's maybe you should go and listen to more of is songs then come back

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Some of stuff was pretty rubbish but overall he made up for it. Some great stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bowie was fucking awesome!!!

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

"Each to there own.

Some people will love Bowie, some won’t.

Even “the Beatles” will have people who don’t like them

Same as any music/group/artist

What! Even Sugababes??? Pick a line up, any line up

Like I said, each to there own

I'm a Rock & Blues man, but I like a bit of variation occasionally

Variation is great.

For me - classical, 60’s/70’s/80’s

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Bowie was fucking awesome!!!"

100% agree with you !

It’s difficult to fathom some people’s thinking when it comes to what’s great and what’s not in music history . Bowie was such an innovator , opened so many doors in so many ways for so many genres . An absolute genius who was never afraid to re define himself .

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Yes, but Tin Machine?

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By *hips n FursMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Best thing I liked about Bowie was listening to Micks guitar driving the songs along.

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Now go wash your mouth out with soap young man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Best thing I liked about Bowie was listening to Micks guitar driving the songs along."

I loved Mick Ronson too. The first threesome I fantasised about having was with him and David Bowie. Then I grew up and stopped fantasising

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think he was over rated. Don't get me wrong, I loved some of his work, but a lot of it was also utter dross too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So you dont like some bowie songs,so what?

Great input fella.

Not speaking for Dash, but name a track that you didn't like then?"

The laughing gnome! Utter shit

And Bowie wouldn't disagree.

Even geniuses get it wrong sometimes!

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By *uddlybear2015Man
over a year ago

BEDFORD

Never been a huge Bowie fan, but shit? Anybody who can write the line "put on your red shoes and dance the blues" is ok in my book. Impossible to get it right 100% of the time over that long a career.

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By *estmidscoupleCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands

Everyone has sporadic output at times, DB was no different, my frustration with him was the one time I saw him eat Wembley Stadium on the Glass Spider tour, which was not a great album, and he is in the frame of mind to play loads of new songs on that tour, and just lost the crowd totally. I never went to see him again after that.

I think the 70s 80s artists also had more pressure than now to produce an album every year or 2 , so the quality threshold inevitably suffered sometimes

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