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"I would love to do it ! How creepy does this sound!" Glad it does ! It fits my personality perfectly ! | |||
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"I refused to allow my children to eat in a toilet (the usual alternative to non-public feeding) therefore they were fed where they got hungry. Not one single person said anything to me. Either their feeding was discreet or my resting bitch face staved off comments, or a combination of both!" I pity the fool that makes a bad comment to my wife while she breast feeds | |||
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"I refused to allow my children to eat in a toilet (the usual alternative to non-public feeding) therefore they were fed where they got hungry. Not one single person said anything to me. Either their feeding was discreet or my resting bitch face staved off comments, or a combination of both! I pity the fool that makes a bad comment to my wife while she breast feeds" They should be DELETED! Yaaaaaaaassssss | |||
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"I refused to allow my children to eat in a toilet (the usual alternative to non-public feeding) therefore they were fed where they got hungry. Not one single person said anything to me. Either their feeding was discreet or my resting bitch face staved off comments, or a combination of both! I pity the fool that makes a bad comment to my wife while she breast feeds They should be DELETED! Yaaaaaaaassssss" They need to be thrown into the lake of reincarnation and come out with scientific opinions. Their current opinions are OBSOLETE | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. " And to think that I get accused of mind-reading and seeing what I want to see. | |||
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"Anyone who has an issue with a mother breast feeding their child in public needs to take a nice big jump off a very high cliff " Straight. To the point. And my feelings exactly. It's one of the most natural things in the world and I admire any woman that's able to and does. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. And to think that I get accused of mind-reading and seeing what I want to see." Ok please correct me. What are the reasonable and logical objections to public breast feeding that you find convincing? | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting." And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone. | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." Ooh the hackles are rising .... | |||
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"Anyone who thinks breast feeding in public is wrong should go and eat in a toilet. It's so easy to breast feed without showing a whole boob. " Its irrelevant though surely. Show it or not show it- it's about the mum and the baby, no one else. People who accuse women of flaunting themselves should realise that it is them that are sexualising the natural way to feed! | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." My private note on you still stands lol | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." Well that's the second word of your profile proved incorrect then!! Keep going if alienation is what you really seek!! | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." Quite the reverse. I was feeding a hungry baby. They would look a darn sight more if the baby was howling the place down because it needed feeding! It's never been about looking at me. It's always about the relationship between mother and baby- no one else. And you have these clever covers that mean you can't see sweetheart- they are called eyelids. They are built in and mean you don't actually have to look! They even come on a clever rotating stand called a neck so you can turn your head away, and in extreme cases the elite version is mobile- they come with legs, so you can walk away! Ain't nature amazing. Sweetheart. | |||
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"Just do it in private. We don't need to see it and we don't want to see it. " You only "see" it if you look - either way it's the most natural thing in the world that has been objectified by the likes of yourself | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." So women should stay at home all of the time because baby might need feeding, in private | |||
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"Anyone who thinks breast feeding in public is wrong should go and eat in a toilet. It's so easy to breast feed without showing a whole boob. Its irrelevant though surely. Show it or not show it- it's about the mum and the baby, no one else. People who accuse women of flaunting themselves should realise that it is them that are sexualising the natural way to feed!" Spot on or for the men who bitch it's because you've taken that away how can they imagine there cock in between them when there's a baby's face attached to them and for the women who bitch it's because the women is trying to flirt with their men, it's a fucked up world. | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." You my friend, are as thick as porridge | |||
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"Just do it in private. We don't need to see it and we don't want to see it. " Don’t look then | |||
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"Just do it in private. We don't need to see it and we don't want to see it. " Don't fucking look then no one is asking you to mind your business like they are minding theirs | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." So do you think the same if a parent is bottle feeding their baby? | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone." You're a grown man that's scared of seeing a boob. Oh my god like. | |||
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"Just do it in private. We don't need to see it and we don't want to see it. " We don’t want to hear your bullshit but unfortunately we have to. You’ll generally find most women try to do it discreetly. Rather than the in your face approach that you described. | |||
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"Just do it in private. We don't need to see it and we don't want to see it. " Then don't look! | |||
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"There’s nothing offensive about a woman feeding her baby in public. In fact most women these days use a feeding cape ! What’s more offensive are people vaping and smoking around mother and baby ! " | |||
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"As a young mum, one of the worst feelings I ever had was when I got dirty looks from a couple in a restaurant after I had to resort to feeding my extremely jaundiced baby whilst sat at the table. I was very subtle and didn’t make a big show or fuss, but they still made it very obvious how disgusted they were. Wish I could go back and tell them now what utter twats they were. " I’ve actually sat amongst family members who were breastfeeding and took ages to actually notice what they were doing. Most women use a blanket or something along those lines when doing so, I think the majority of the time unless you really stop and stare then breastfeeding is almost unnoticeable. | |||
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"As a young mum, one of the worst feelings I ever had was when I got dirty looks from a couple in a restaurant after I had to resort to feeding my extremely jaundiced baby whilst sat at the table. I was very subtle and didn’t make a big show or fuss, but they still made it very obvious how disgusted they were. Wish I could go back and tell them now what utter twats they were. " Its rotten isn't it that you should have been subjected to that. I found the older generation seem to struggle more than younger, as a rule, but there are always exceptions x | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting." This exactly was how I initially felt with my first! But after a couple of weeks I was past caring, would rather have had a content baby than one screaming with hunger! | |||
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"Just do it in private. We don't need to see it and we don't want to see it. " why should a mother feed her baby in private, why don’t you want to see it, what’s the issue op it’s perfectly natural | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? " Where should the baby be fed then ? | |||
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"As a young mum, one of the worst feelings I ever had was when I got dirty looks from a couple in a restaurant after I had to resort to feeding my extremely jaundiced baby whilst sat at the table. I was very subtle and didn’t make a big show or fuss, but they still made it very obvious how disgusted they were. Wish I could go back and tell them now what utter twats they were. Its rotten isn't it that you should have been subjected to that. I found the older generation seem to struggle more than younger, as a rule, but there are always exceptions x" I think any new mum gets subjected to so much judgement for what you should or shouldn’t do but I definitely think being young made me feel even more vulnerable to that. I mostly had a lot of positivity, but it sucks when that one negative experience stands out! | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? " What is it that pisses you off exactly? What is it that you are seeing when you see a mother feed her baby? | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? What is it that pisses you off exactly? What is it that you are seeing when you see a mother feed her baby? " I would like to know why does he think women that breastfeed in public are not polite ? | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? " Do you think they had cows milk in their tea? | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? " Subjected them to what exactly? Possibly the slightest glimpse of a bare breast, if that? Guarantee I show more when I’m wearing a low cut dress but interesting that I don’t get any complaints then... | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. This exactly was how I initially felt with my first! But after a couple of weeks I was past caring, would rather have had a content baby than one screaming with hunger! " Same here I used to try and find somewhere remote just out of my own shyness. Few weeks in its all just get the baby fed for god sake | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? Subjected them to what exactly? Possibly the slightest glimpse of a bare breast, if that? Guarantee I show more when I’m wearing a low cut dress but interesting that I don’t get any complaints then... " The point is, it does not matter what they could or could not see, or what they were subjected to. Whatever it was, they were uncomfortable with it and it ruined their café/restaurant experience. Why should they be subjected to that? Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look." So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely. | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? It doesn't matter what they could or could not see? So they could could of heard that some cheeky cow was breastfeeding their baby in a room next door and still be in their right to complain and bitch how it spoiled their experience? Have I got that right? Subjected them to what exactly? Possibly the slightest glimpse of a bare breast, if that? Guarantee I show more when I’m wearing a low cut dress but interesting that I don’t get any complaints then... The point is, it does not matter what they could or could not see, or what they were subjected to. Whatever it was, they were uncomfortable with it and it ruined their café/restaurant experience. Why should they be subjected to that? Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child?" | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? " You're obviously trying to provoke a reaction, and keep coming back to stir the pot which says a heck of a lot more about you than anything - for fucks sake you're "apparently" an "intelligent" 44 year old man, not a fucking juvenile teenager!! Either way you've just provided a great filter for most I would imagine. | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? Subjected them to what exactly? Possibly the slightest glimpse of a bare breast, if that? Guarantee I show more when I’m wearing a low cut dress but interesting that I don’t get any complaints then... The point is, it does not matter what they could or could not see, or what they were subjected to. Whatever it was, they were uncomfortable with it and it ruined their café/restaurant experience. Why should they be subjected to that? Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child?" Have I missed something, who are ‘they’? Has anyone ever been offended - surely not? | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? Subjected them to what exactly? Possibly the slightest glimpse of a bare breast, if that? Guarantee I show more when I’m wearing a low cut dress but interesting that I don’t get any complaints then... The point is, it does not matter what they could or could not see, or what they were subjected to. Whatever it was, they were uncomfortable with it and it ruined their café/restaurant experience. Why should they be subjected to that? Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child?" Because the right to feed your child is enshrined in law. | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. " Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private. | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child?" As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private." Really having to bite my tongue with you | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. " Well many people would not. | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private." You are laughable. Ha. Ha. | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private." WOW! | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. " Tough titty | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. " You’re totally right, but as a society, I think this thread proves they are in the minority. Would you have an issue with a woman breastfeeding in a restaurant or cafe whilst you were in there? | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. " And what's makes them right then? | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private." you are an absolute cactus! | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private. WOW! " Ignore him, poor thing he wasn't breast fed as a kid ... | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private. you are an absolute cactus! " I was thinking of a different word | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. You’re totally right, but as a society, I think this thread proves they are in the minority. Would you have an issue with a woman breastfeeding in a restaurant or cafe whilst you were in there? " I find it un-necessary, and I simply avoid family friendly places. | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private. you are an absolute cactus! I was thinking of a different word " Did it also begin with C? | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look. So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely." Did you mistype your age? Are you really 6? | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private. you are an absolute cactus! I was thinking of a different word " It still started with a 'C' though didn't it? | |||
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"Isn't it rotten that you subjected them to that too? They were clearly disgusted. They were in the café/restaurant as paying customers. Why should their experience be spoiled by your actions either? Subjected them to what exactly? Possibly the slightest glimpse of a bare breast, if that? Guarantee I show more when I’m wearing a low cut dress but interesting that I don’t get any complaints then... The point is, it does not matter what they could or could not see, or what they were subjected to. Whatever it was, they were uncomfortable with it and it ruined their café/restaurant experience. Why should they be subjected to that? Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child?" And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a cafe customer ready to be offended at things that are none of my business. Look at me everyone. I’m eating my lunch. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone. | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. You’re totally right, but as a society, I think this thread proves they are in the minority. Would you have an issue with a woman breastfeeding in a restaurant or cafe whilst you were in there? I find it un-necessary, and I simply avoid family friendly places. " Ah, so you find a baby needing feeding to be unnecessary. I think you’d actually struggle to find a restaurant or cafe these days that would ask a woman to leave if she was breastfeeding. So your list of none family friendly places must be quite small | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. You’re totally right, but as a society, I think this thread proves they are in the minority. Would you have an issue with a woman breastfeeding in a restaurant or cafe whilst you were in there? I find it un-necessary, and I simply avoid family friendly places. " You should avoid all people | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. You’re totally right, but as a society, I think this thread proves they are in the minority. Would you have an issue with a woman breastfeeding in a restaurant or cafe whilst you were in there? I find it un-necessary, and I simply avoid family friendly places. You should avoid all people " and all places | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look. So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely." I don't think I've ever read such a load of bigoted shite on here and that's saying something. You do understand, surely, that it's not actually *normal* to sit staring at anyone in a cafe, whether they're breastfeeding or not. It's hardly difficult therefore to avert your eyes from a mother and baby and mind your own business. As breastfeeding mothers are protected in law and do have to leave the house sometimes I suggest that perhaps *you* should avoid busy cafes and the like just in case your snowflake sensibilities are mortally offended because I'm damn sure that the majority of other customers in there will be indifferent to it. | |||
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"I fed my daughter. It wasn't about anyone else and I didn't care what other people thought. I can understand why some new mums lacking confidence perceive it as daunting. And that's what's wrong today. No thought for anyone. I'm a parent. Look at me everyone. My child needs feeding. Right now. Look at me everyone. I'm going to do it in front of everyone. I don't care what they think or how they feel, or that I could easily do it in private like polite people do, and people used to in the past. I'm just going to do it here to prove a point. Look at me everyone. Quite the reverse. I was feeding a hungry baby. They would look a darn sight more if the baby was howling the place down because it needed feeding! It's never been about looking at me. It's always about the relationship between mother and baby- no one else. And you have these clever covers that mean you can't see sweetheart- they are called eyelids. They are built in and mean you don't actually have to look! They even come on a clever rotating stand called a neck so you can turn your head away, and in extreme cases the elite version is mobile- they come with legs, so you can walk away! Ain't nature amazing. Sweetheart." Love it! | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look. So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely. I don't think I've ever read such a load of bigoted shite on here and that's saying something. You do understand, surely, that it's not actually *normal* to sit staring at anyone in a cafe, whether they're breastfeeding or not. It's hardly difficult therefore to avert your eyes from a mother and baby and mind your own business. As breastfeeding mothers are protected in law and do have to leave the house sometimes I suggest that perhaps *you* should avoid busy cafes and the like just in case your snowflake sensibilities are mortally offended because I'm damn sure that the majority of other customers in there will be indifferent to it. " It's not snowflake. It's just bad manners to do it in public. The law and manners are not equivalent. Luckily family friendly places and smart restaurants are almost without exception, mutually exclusive. | |||
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"I breast fed all my children and didn't hesitate in doing so in public. The first time I went to use the baby change/feed area; it stank of nappies and there was no way I was feeding in there. I never got any snide comments or looks knowingly but I'd have embarrassing them for it if they dared. The woman years back that made the tabloids for feeding her baby in a swimming pool, I never really quite got that and thought she was in the wrong there. Ginger " She's the sort I was referring to - just out to create an issue. I agree she was in the wrong. | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look. So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely. I don't think I've ever read such a load of bigoted shite on here and that's saying something. You do understand, surely, that it's not actually *normal* to sit staring at anyone in a cafe, whether they're breastfeeding or not. It's hardly difficult therefore to avert your eyes from a mother and baby and mind your own business. As breastfeeding mothers are protected in law and do have to leave the house sometimes I suggest that perhaps *you* should avoid busy cafes and the like just in case your snowflake sensibilities are mortally offended because I'm damn sure that the majority of other customers in there will be indifferent to it. It's not snowflake. It's just bad manners to do it in public. The law and manners are not equivalent. Luckily family friendly places and smart restaurants are almost without exception, mutually exclusive." Is the problem you werent breast fed as a baby. Here take a seat on my couch.. | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look. So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely. I don't think I've ever read such a load of bigoted shite on here and that's saying something. You do understand, surely, that it's not actually *normal* to sit staring at anyone in a cafe, whether they're breastfeeding or not. It's hardly difficult therefore to avert your eyes from a mother and baby and mind your own business. As breastfeeding mothers are protected in law and do have to leave the house sometimes I suggest that perhaps *you* should avoid busy cafes and the like just in case your snowflake sensibilities are mortally offended because I'm damn sure that the majority of other customers in there will be indifferent to it. It's not snowflake. It's just bad manners to do it in public. The law and manners are not equivalent. Luckily family friendly places and smart restaurants are almost without exception, mutually exclusive." If you saw someone breastfeeding in public what would you do? Would you say something to her? | |||
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"People don't bat an eyelid to an animal feeding their young, so why a human... oh because society has sexualised the breast, instead of seeing it as the purpose intended some see it as exploiting. " Yep. Breasts were feeding babies long long before they were sexualised. I actually believe the reason *some* men get so upset at public breastfeeding is because they don't like to be reminded of their primary purpose. It's like they're throwing a hissy fit because what some see as *their* playthings are temporarily out of action! | |||
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"Having fed four children. I have spend more than 10 years feeding my children and have openly fed them until 2 in public. Most women fed discretely your be surprised that most of the time it looks like you are just cuddling them. Until they get to around 4 months and get nosy lol. I am glad that my children see it as the norm. I have teenage sons they have seen me feed their sister and to them that’s how you feed a baby, toddler. Yes breasts are sexual but their biggest gift is to nourish a baby and I always smile when I see a lady feeding a baby, to me there isn’t a more beautiful sight. S x" Yours like the majority of posts here are totally correct. I have three family members that have had babies over the last few years one of which was adamant she would bottle feed and another that was determined to breast feed. Neither of them was given any grief on the decisions they made and I would never impose my view on a mothers chosen method of feeding her child and neither should anyone else. | |||
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"People don't bat an eyelid to an animal feeding their young, so why a human... oh because society has sexualised the breast, instead of seeing it as the purpose intended some see it as exploiting. Yep. Breasts were feeding babies long long before they were sexualised. I actually believe the reason *some* men get so upset at public breastfeeding is because they don't like to be reminded of their primary purpose. It's like they're throwing a hissy fit because what some see as *their* playthings are temporarily out of action! What about the women that don't like public breastfeeding? " God knows. You'll note that I didn't tar *all* men who object to public breastfeeding with that particular theory but I do think there's some truth in it for some. The others? ... and women who don't like it. I accept that some people are naturally prudish and don't like what they see as unnecessary displays of flesh. Maybe some of those have also been influenced by religious guidelines along the same lines. And maybe a few people feel horribly embarrassed because of their upbringing (thus selfishly placing their issues above the needs of a baby). But then you go back to the sexualisation of breasts don't you. The fact that first and foremost they're seeing breasts as sexual things instead of simply flesh fulfilling an important function. Which is bonkers. | |||
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"I saw an interesting about it, some thought it shouldnt be allowed and some didnt mind it. I cant see a problem about it as it is a natural thing, whats your view?" A mum breast feeding her baby is a beautiful sight. Perfectly natural. I find a deep unhappiness comes over me when I see a mum desperately trying to hide the fact that she is feeding her baby. Saddens me that she should have to hide away. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. " How do you know that? | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that?" Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. " It used to be socially unacceptable to breast feed in public. Older people will have imbibed those social values and will find it uncomfortable to see them violated. | |||
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"Anyone who thinks breast feeding in public is wrong should go and eat in a toilet. It's so easy to breast feed without showing a whole boob. " Agree your basic point, however who cares if the lady shows a whole boob? Boobs are beautiful and a baby feeding from one is even more beautiful. | |||
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" It used to be socially unacceptable to breast feed in public. Older people will have imbibed those social values and will find it uncomfortable to see them violated. " Appreciate your point but as some of the "older" people on here we have no objections to a lady breast-feeding in public. As the hub here puts it boobs are beautiful and a baby feeding off one is even more beautiful. So we're prepared to guess that a lot of the objectors will fall in the more middle aged areas given FABs social make up. | |||
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" It used to be socially unacceptable to breast feed in public. Older people will have imbibed those social values and will find it uncomfortable to see them violated. Appreciate your point but as some of the "older" people on here we have no objections to a lady breast-feeding in public. As the hub here puts it boobs are beautiful and a baby feeding off one is even more beautiful. So we're prepared to guess that a lot of the objectors will fall in the more middle aged areas given FABs social make up." I am not saying all older people take that view, but I think the people who do object tend to be older and they object because of the social values that were the norm when they were growing up. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. " What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof." His "proof" is occams razor. I.e. It's the argument making the least assumptions that fits all the facts. Obviously, he's making a massive number of assumptions. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. It used to be socially unacceptable to breast feed in public. Older people will have imbibed those social values and will find it uncomfortable to see them violated. " That's possible, but they'd also know the reason it's become socially acceptable is because of the overwhelming health benefits. Hence they probably feel guilty that they didn't do it. I also note the only objector on the thread is 44. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. His "proof" is occams razor. I.e. It's the argument making the least assumptions that fits all the facts. Obviously, he's making a massive number of assumptions. " Yes. I got both those | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. It used to be socially unacceptable to breast feed in public. Older people will have imbibed those social values and will find it uncomfortable to see them violated. That's possible, but they'd also know the reason it's become socially acceptable is because of the overwhelming health benefits. Hence they probably feel guilty that they didn't do it. I also note the only objector on the thread is 44. " He's also male. Another reasonable explanation is that some men see breasts solely as a source of sexual pleasure and are discombobulated when reminded of their primary function. | |||
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"Ok please correct me. What are the reasonable and logical objections to public breast feeding that you find convincing? " 1 and only 1... children should not be allowed out in public | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. I believe 81% of women breast feed. Would you assume the women objecting are predominantly from the 81% or the 19%? " Unlike some, I don't assume anything. I asked for proof, evidence to back your opinion, as you stated it like it was fact. | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. " Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. | |||
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"Ok please correct me. What are the reasonable and logical objections to public breast feeding that you find convincing? 1 and only 1... children should not be allowed out in public " Certainly not in First Class on the train from Monday night. Screaming small child - annoying. That is what Standard Class/Guard's van is for. Luckily the Train Manager provided a bottle of wine as compensation without anything being said. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. I believe 81% of women breast feed. Would you assume the women objecting are predominantly from the 81% or the 19%? Unlike some, I don't assume anything. I asked for proof, evidence to back your opinion, as you stated it like it was fact." Ok you are scared to use your powers of reasoning. I'm not. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. I believe 81% of women breast feed. Would you assume the women objecting are predominantly from the 81% or the 19%? Unlike some, I don't assume anything. I asked for proof, evidence to back your opinion, as you stated it like it was fact. Ok you are scared to use your powers of reasoning. I'm not. " Laughing! Whatever. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. I believe 81% of women breast feed. Would you assume the women objecting are predominantly from the 81% or the 19%? Unlike some, I don't assume anything. I asked for proof, evidence to back your opinion, as you stated it like it was fact. Ok you are scared to use your powers of reasoning. I'm not. " You have put forward one possible explanation and I have put forward another two. The only empirical evidence we have is one 44 year old bloke. I don't see how we can possibly draw any firn conclusions from that. | |||
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"I breastfed both my children and on occasion, and by *necessity*, it had to be done in public. So what? I wasn't drawing attention to myself and certainly wasn't making a song and dance about it in a 'look at me' fashion People who are offended by it should take a good long look at their sensibilities (assuming they can dredge up enough intelligence to do so). FFS there are 1001 other things going on in public which are genuinely revolting and/or unhygienic if you really need to vent your spleen about other people's behaviour ... dog owners who don't clear up their shit, people who spit on the pavement, d*unks throwing up everywhere, people peeing in doorways, etc etc. But the ignorant few get het up about a mother feeding her baby ??!!! ... a completely natural process which doesn't affect anyone else at all. Don't like it? ... don't bloody well look. So don't do it in front of people in a busy café/restaurant, and they don't have to look away purposely." I’m not going into a toilet just because it makes people like you feel uncomfortable. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. How do you know that? Occam's razor. If you have a more rational explanation then I'm open to hear it? This thread has not produced a single rational based objection yet though. What? I have no explanation and didn't say I did. I asked how you knew that the 'vast majority' who object where the ones who 'didn't do the best' for their children. You seem to have no proof. I believe 81% of women breast feed. Would you assume the women objecting are predominantly from the 81% or the 19%? Unlike some, I don't assume anything. I asked for proof, evidence to back your opinion, as you stated it like it was fact. Ok you are scared to use your powers of reasoning. I'm not. You have put forward one possible explanation and I have put forward another two. The only empirical evidence we have is one 44 year old bloke. I don't see how we can possibly draw any firn conclusions from that. " To be honest my knowledge of psychology doesn't go deep enough to comprehend hetrosexual men who don't like to see breasts. You've got me there. | |||
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"Ok please correct me. What are the reasonable and logical objections to public breast feeding that you find convincing? 1 and only 1... children should not be allowed out in public Certainly not in First Class on the train from Monday night. Screaming small child - annoying. That is what Standard Class/Guard's van is for. Luckily the Train Manager provided a bottle of wine as compensation without anything being said. " And did the bottle of wine work to stop the child screaming? | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. " Mother's always seemed to find a private place until 25 years ago. Surely if you know your baby is going to be hungry in 3 hours time then you wouldn't be sitting in Costa Coffee in 3 hrs time? | |||
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"I refused to allow my children to eat in a toilet (the usual alternative to non-public feeding) therefore they were fed where they got hungry. Not one single person said anything to me. Either their feeding was discreet or my resting bitch face staved off comments, or a combination of both!" This! Totally... | |||
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"Ok please correct me. What are the reasonable and logical objections to public breast feeding that you find convincing? 1 and only 1... children should not be allowed out in public Certainly not in First Class on the train from Monday night. Screaming small child - annoying. That is what Standard Class/Guard's van is for. Luckily the Train Manager provided a bottle of wine as compensation without anything being said. And did the bottle of wine work to stop the child screaming? " No, they are plastic, for safety on VTEC, so insufficiently hard to hit the child with! | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. Mother's always seemed to find a private place until 25 years ago. Surely if you know your baby is going to be hungry in 3 hours time then you wouldn't be sitting in Costa Coffee in 3 hrs time? " Actually less women breast fed or had jobs for that matter. Is that how you prefer society? | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. Mother's always seemed to find a private place until 25 years ago. Surely if you know your baby is going to be hungry in 3 hours time then you wouldn't be sitting in Costa Coffee in 3 hrs time? " They stayed chained to the sink. | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. Mother's always seemed to find a private place until 25 years ago. Surely if you know your baby is going to be hungry in 3 hours time then you wouldn't be sitting in Costa Coffee in 3 hrs time? They stayed chained to the sink." | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. Mother's always seemed to find a private place until 25 years ago. Surely if you know your baby is going to be hungry in 3 hours time then you wouldn't be sitting in Costa Coffee in 3 hrs time? " Not sure if I can share this but this is some historical pictures of women breastfeeding. Look at how normal it was and is. https://www.buzzfeed.com/southerndisposition/25-historical-images-that-normalize-breastfeeding-jlw6?utm_term=.sy1BbrM8n#.yv6gRqjM7 | |||
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" As a male, public bf doesn't bother me in the slightest. What I do find a little strange is that something that is so intimate and bonding between a mother and child would want to be shared with the public? I just think it's one of those very private times special to a mum & baby. Because those "private times" might be as frequent as every 3 hours when the baby is young. It's not practical to expect to be in a private place every time they need feeding. Mother's always seemed to find a private place until 25 years ago. Surely if you know your baby is going to be hungry in 3 hours time then you wouldn't be sitting in Costa Coffee in 3 hrs time? Not sure if I can share this but this is some historical pictures of women breastfeeding. Look at how normal it was and is. https://www.buzzfeed.com/southerndisposition/25-historical-images-that-normalize-breastfeeding-jlw6?utm_term=.sy1BbrM8n#.yv6gRqjM7" I totally agree, I have 3 children my wife breast fed, it is beautifully natural and normal. The world is forever changing, I'm just asking the question about mother & baby private time. | |||
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"In 2018 this shouldn't even be a question. Correct. Women should have some decorum and do it in private." I wish you had more decorum and kept your ignorance private. It offends me more than any breastfeeding mother could. | |||
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"Basically a lot of parents feel guilty that they didn't do the best things they know they should have for their children. They didn't breast feed, they smoked, they feed their kids a shite diet etc. Those people represent the vast majority of those objecting to public breast feeding. They are projecting their guilt onto other people who are doing a better job than them. And to think that I get accused of mind-reading and seeing what I want to see. Ok please correct me. What are the reasonable and logical objections to public breast feeding that you find convincing? " I’m not saying that I find any of the arguments against breastfeeding in public convincing, but you’ve made absolutely unverifiable claims about other people’s reasons for objecting to it, based on unverifiable assumptions. It’s a little worrying that you can’t see the problem with your post, given what you’ve accused me of. | |||
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"I saw an interesting about it, some thought it shouldnt be allowed and some didnt mind it. I cant see a problem about it as it is a natural thing, whats your view?" Doesn't bother me at all & I don't know why I should bother others. | |||
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" Why are their rights less important that some woman with a child? As a grown adult I’d happily but a babies right to be fed naturally above my own right to feel offended. Well many people would not. Tough titty " Nicely put My daughter breastfeeds her baby in public shes very quick getting him on and off no1 bats an eyelid . Nothing offensive about it ! Clearly op is in the minority here . | |||
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