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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Yet you watched it op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t!

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure."

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this."

I was going to say exactly this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

I was going to say exactly this."

Me too

Life would be dull without sports that involve cruelty to animals?

I have no words

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Its not even dead. Its being assessed

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

They say the horse is being assessed , they havn't announced it is dead ...yet anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure."

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Neigh it isn’t.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure."

Id just ban eating meat as well...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A case of shutting the stable door before the horse has bolted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

43 horses have died in this country this year alone whilst racing !!!

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!"

If the horse doesm't have a choice then why do the ones that unseat their rider continue running and jumping?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes its a horrid race but I still have a flutter and I won this year xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So do animals have a choice to be born just so we can eat them?

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By *rMrs Horny300Man
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure."

Bring back fox hunting too !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not after that I didn’t watch anymore

Flicked it over when the horses got to beaches 2nd time around

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Race horses are one of the best cared for equine sectors ive ever worked with.

It is in their blood to race.

If they didnt want to do it or didn't enjoy it, they wouldn't carry on when they lost their jockey.

And they wouldnt get so excited when they saw that white fencing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Bring back fox hunting too !!"

Foxes no but id be happy to hunt animals for food used to go rabbiting all the time

Tastes nice

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!

If the horse doesm't have a choice then why do the ones that unseat their rider continue running and jumping?"

Because they are herd animals and simply follow what the others are doing. Their fight or flight instinct kicks in and see all the others fleeing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure."

The amount of horses killed compared to jockeys beong killed suggests a significant flaw in the argument that the jockeys are more at risk than horses

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By *rMrs Horny300Man
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Bring back fox hunting too !!

Foxes no but id be happy to hunt animals for food used to go rabbiting all the time

Tastes nice"

Ate rabbit last night , yum !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

I was going to say exactly this."

But they were bred to race. If they weren't they wouldn't be here. The same as animals being bred to eat, to leather your shoes and so on. It's all abuse of an animal

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Race horses are one of the best cared for equine sectors ive ever worked with.

It is in their blood to race.

If they didnt want to do it or didn't enjoy it, they wouldn't carry on when they lost their jockey.

And they wouldnt get so excited when they saw that white fencing. "

Sorry but I disagree worth the last 2 points. I do agree they are well looked after a d don't think it should be banned but the other points are not true.

They carry on because they are herd animals at heart and that reaction when they see the fence I'd learned behaviour and picking up on changes in the jockeys signals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They put the horses down due to cost and to put the animal out of mysery

The fact you cant do that with people proberbly fucks up your numbers

Jocks get broken backs and live horses are put down with broken legs

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By *rMrs Horny300Man
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

I was going to say exactly this.

But they were bred to race. If they weren't they wouldn't be here. The same as animals being bred to eat, to leather your shoes and so on. It's all abuse of an animal"

Nice filet steak , must go out tonight !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t! "

Really? Do they still shoot the horses if they break a leg, even though they can recover from it given the right treatment?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

I was going to say exactly this.

But they were bred to race. If they weren't they wouldn't be here. The same as animals being bred to eat, to leather your shoes and so on. It's all abuse of an animal

Nice filet steak , must go out tonight !"

Go for it. I love a steak

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They put the horses down due to cost and to put the animal out of mysery

The fact you cant do that with people proberbly fucks up your numbers

Jocks get broken backs and live horses are put down with broken legs"

So the horses are more at risk then?

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Neigh it isn’t. "

Comedy gold

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 horses have died in this country this year alone whilst racing !!! "

50 people died this year across the globe from falling coconuts. Should we ban walking on the beach?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do they recycle the race horse for consumption after they shoot it.?

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By *rMrs Horny300Man
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"They put the horses down due to cost and to put the animal out of mysery

The fact you cant do that with people proberbly fucks up your numbers

Jocks get broken backs and live horses are put down with broken legs

So the horses are more at risk then? "

We eat horse here in France!

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They put the horses down due to cost and to put the animal out of mysery

The fact you cant do that with people proberbly fucks up your numbers

Jocks get broken backs and live horses are put down with broken legs

So the horses are more at risk then?

We eat horse here in France!"

We were eating horse in England not long ago. The press didn’t like it, so we stopped.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

End of race commentary, all horses home safe

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

"

It's because pretty little girls and cute little boys don't beg to ride round and round in a school on a cow or a pig or a sheep every weekend. They are lesser animals to some.

I'd gladly eat horse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 horses have died in this country this year alone whilst racing !!! "

wow,,really,,id ban it then,thats outragious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"End of race commentary, all horses home safe "

Are they all tucked in with a hot cocoa and some hay?

In all seriousness, that's good to hear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 14/04/18 18:37:33]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

"

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!

If the horse doesm't have a choice then why do the ones that unseat their rider continue running and jumping?"

oh wow,,are you trying to be serious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone agree with dog fights? It’s a sport. Isn’t it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone agree with dog fights? It’s a sport. Isn’t it? "

They would t fight if they didn’t want to? Eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone agree with dog fights? It’s a sport. Isn’t it? "

no,,its not a sport,its revolting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone agree with dog fights? It’s a sport. Isn’t it? "

Outside our local pub, but calling them dogs is a bit harsh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do they recycle the race horse for consumption after they shoot it.?"

Not for human consumption, often the knacker men take them to the zoo for the animals to eat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t!

Really? Do they still shoot the horses if they break a leg, even though they can recover from it given the right treatment?"

It's not an easy fix for a horse, it depends where the break is and how likely the horse is it take to pretty much being immobilised and often sedated while it heals.

Unfortunately national hunt casualtys are worth less than the flat racers as more often than not flat racers if they are make are still entire and can go on to reproduce and therefor retain some value, The national hunt horse are almost always geldings if male..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

So it seems it is a jockey who had the screen round him and not a horse, although a horse is being treated in the stables after running without his jockey

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"So it seems it is a jockey who had the screen round him and not a horse, although a horse is being treated in the stables after running without his jockey"

Poor lad (lass?!)

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

A man if it is right what they are reporting, it doesn't say how he is yet though

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"A man if it is right what they are reporting, it doesn't say how he is yet though"

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/horseracing/946155/Grand-National-horse-dead-screens-Aintree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A man if it is right what they are reporting, it doesn't say how he is yet though

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/horseracing/946155/Grand-National-horse-dead-screens-Aintree"

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

"

In all honesty no , as I’ve been a life long vegetarian I can’t see the difference .

Same with hunting and other countries eating dogs and horses . An animal is an animal no matter what type it is . Still has feelings whether it’s bred to be eaten or raced or hunted .

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

The horse is Saint Are and walked back to the stables for further assessment by the vets after being treated on the course

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

So, no horses died then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hate to say i told u so about the danger to riders

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex


"So it seems it is a jockey who had the screen round him and not a horse, although a horse is being treated in the stables after running without his jockey"

No the horse being treated is called Saint Are

Another Horse Alpha des obeaux fell & as it was standing up got clobbered by Saint are ,

2 half ton horses one moving at 20-30 mph & 1 pretty much stationery is going to hurt 1 of them .

It had F*ck all to do with it running without its jockey,

More likely to be the severest case of horse concussion ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

In all honesty no , as I’ve been a life long vegetarian I can’t see the difference .

Same with hunting and other countries eating dogs and horses . An animal is an animal no matter what type it is . Still has feelings whether it’s bred to be eaten or raced or hunted .

"

You are aware as a species we evolved to eat meat. We have teeth for it.

Being a vegetarian is your choice. Being a human with feelings towards an animal which is hurt and in pain is natural to people. (Or at least some).

I think it’s unfair to say because I eat meat, I can’t get emotional when I see an animal hurt, however it happened.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

In all honesty no , as I’ve been a life long vegetarian I can’t see the difference .

Same with hunting and other countries eating dogs and horses . An animal is an animal no matter what type it is . Still has feelings whether it’s bred to be eaten or raced or hunted .

You are aware as a species we evolved to eat meat. We have teeth for it.

Being a vegetarian is your choice. Being a human with feelings towards an animal which is hurt and in pain is natural to people. (Or at least some).

I think it’s unfair to say because I eat meat, I can’t get emotional when I see an animal hurt, however it happened.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

In all honesty no , as I’ve been a life long vegetarian I can’t see the difference .

Same with hunting and other countries eating dogs and horses . An animal is an animal no matter what type it is . Still has feelings whether it’s bred to be eaten or raced or hunted .

You are aware as a species we evolved to eat meat. We have teeth for it.

Being a vegetarian is your choice. Being a human with feelings towards an animal which is hurt and in pain is natural to people. (Or at least some).

I think it’s unfair to say because I eat meat, I can’t get emotional when I see an animal hurt, however it happened.

"

I am a meat eater and I agree that to be a meat eater and to object to animals being killed for sport is inconsistent.

You don't need to eat meat to survive and therefore those of us who do eat meat are happy to see animals killed for our pleasure. Just like horse racing fans.

And the evolution argument doesn't had up. Men also evolved to plant their semen in as many women as possible. Yet most of us manage to not commit ra per.

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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago

Staines


"It's because pretty little girls and cute little boys don't beg to ride round and round in a school on a cow or a pig or a sheep every weekend. They are lesser animals to some.

I'd gladly eat horse "

I’ve eaten horse but wouldn’t again - gave me the trots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

In all honesty no , as I’ve been a life long vegetarian I can’t see the difference .

Same with hunting and other countries eating dogs and horses . An animal is an animal no matter what type it is . Still has feelings whether it’s bred to be eaten or raced or hunted .

You are aware as a species we evolved to eat meat. We have teeth for it.

Being a vegetarian is your choice. Being a human with feelings towards an animal which is hurt and in pain is natural to people. (Or at least some).

I think it’s unfair to say because I eat meat, I can’t get emotional when I see an animal hurt, however it happened.

I am a meat eater and I agree that to be a meat eater and to object to animals being killed for sport is inconsistent.

You don't need to eat meat to survive and therefore those of us who do eat meat are happy to see animals killed for our pleasure. Just like horse racing fans.

And the evolution argument doesn't had up. Men also evolved to plant their semen in as many women as possible. Yet most of us manage to not commit ra per. "

Eh? Your happy to see an animal killed for pleasure.

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

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By *hips n FursMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer"

Is this what the Donald calls fake news.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again .

I disagree with this. Cattle should be raised in a humane way. Not caged or mistreated, but respected, as they are a farmed food resource, and will feed us eventually. Do you not think you someone is allowed to still get upset when an animal is used for our entertainment? After all, sport is entertainment.

In all honesty no , as I’ve been a life long vegetarian I can’t see the difference .

Same with hunting and other countries eating dogs and horses . An animal is an animal no matter what type it is . Still has feelings whether it’s bred to be eaten or raced or hunted .

You are aware as a species we evolved to eat meat. We have teeth for it.

Being a vegetarian is your choice. Being a human with feelings towards an animal which is hurt and in pain is natural to people. (Or at least some).

I think it’s unfair to say because I eat meat, I can’t get emotional when I see an animal hurt, however it happened.

I am a meat eater and I agree that to be a meat eater and to object to animals being killed for sport is inconsistent.

You don't need to eat meat to survive and therefore those of us who do eat meat are happy to see animals killed for our pleasure. Just like horse racing fans.

And the evolution argument doesn't had up. Men also evolved to plant their semen in as many women as possible. Yet most of us manage to not commit ra per.

Eh? Your happy to see an animal killed for pleasure.

And well done on not committing you ilegal act. "

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I am a meat eater and I agree that to be a meat eater and to object to animals being killed for sport is inconsistent.

You don't need to eat meat to survive and therefore those of us who do eat meat are happy to see animals killed for our pleasure. Just like horse racing fans.

And the evolution argument doesn't had up. Men also evolved to plant their semen in as many women as possible. Yet most of us manage to not commit ra per.

Eh? Your happy to see an animal killed for pleasure.

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure. "

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

I am a meat eater and I agree that to be a meat eater and to object to animals being killed for sport is inconsistent.

You don't need to eat meat to survive and therefore those of us who do eat meat are happy to see animals killed for our pleasure. Just like horse racing fans.

And the evolution argument doesn't had up. Men also evolved to plant their semen in as many women as possible. Yet most of us manage to not commit ra per.

Eh? Your happy to see an animal killed for pleasure.

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?"

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this."

Hmmm but Golf is good ..love it lol

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

Hmmm but Golf is good ..love it lol"

Bing Crosby died on a golf course....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

Hmmm but Golf is good ..love it lol

Bing Crosby died on a golf course...."

Hahaaa bet he died happy??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure. "

For your food. They are slaughtered to feed you, keeping you alive.

But your happy with that? Happy with me kicking a pig in the face, and then you eating a bacon butty on Sunday morning?

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

I wonder how many of the ban it for sport brigade are Cat owners , i wonder if they chastise there pets for pointlessly killing smaller animals for the pleasure & the sport of it.

Most cats kill for the fun of it , but dont eat the prey as they are well fed at home.

Unless of course they are being fed a vegetarian cat food , then they are probably doing it because they are fed up with the sh*t they get indoors.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

Hmmm but Golf is good ..love it lol

Bing Crosby died on a golf course....

Hahaaa bet he died happy??"

Of course, just walked off the course bless him

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure.

For your food. They are slaughtered to feed you, keeping you alive.

But your happy with that? Happy with me kicking a pig in the face, and then you eating a bacon butty on Sunday morning? "

I don't need to eat animals to stay alive.

And in the scale of things I would say that killing a living creature is worse than kicking it.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure.

For your food. They are slaughtered to feed you, keeping you alive.

But your happy with that? Happy with me kicking a pig in the face, and then you eating a bacon butty on Sunday morning? "

Why would you kick a pig in the face?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

Hmmm but Golf is good ..love it lol

Bing Crosby died on a golf course....

Hahaaa bet he died happy??

Of course, just walked off the course bless him "

Thought he was carried off in style ...lol

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

At least it lived and I suspect, with the adrenaline and excitement, enjoyed what it did.

Something, some people in the world wouldn’t understand, well in my world.

Walking down the same path leads you to?

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure.

For your food. They are slaughtered to feed you, keeping you alive.

But your happy with that? Happy with me kicking a pig in the face, and then you eating a bacon butty on Sunday morning? "

You seriously think we need to eat meat to stay alive ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As usual, lots of people talking about a subject they know fuck all about!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"As usual, lots of people talking about a subject they know fuck all about!!"

Oh please do enlighten us

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure.

For your food. They are slaughtered to feed you, keeping you alive.

But your happy with that? Happy with me kicking a pig in the face, and then you eating a bacon butty on Sunday morning?

You seriously think we need to eat meat to stay alive ?

"

Why does every veggie get told to at least eat fish the older they get?

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"As usual, lots of people talking about a subject they know fuck all about!!

Oh please do enlighten us "

Echoed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

"

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I no longer bet or even watch this race anymore, it been about 20 years since I last saw the race on tv, the fences is far too high and brutal for the horses and it's always the horses get hurt and put down, what is the pleasure of that?

The fences should be lower and less jumps and maybe shorter course to decrease the chances of the horses get hurt and put down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I no longer bet or even watch this race anymore, it been about 20 years since I last saw the race on tv, the fences is far too high and brutal for the horses and it's always the horses get hurt and put down, what is the pleasure of that?

The fences should be lower and less jumps and maybe shorter course to decrease the chances of the horses get hurt and put down.

"

You do realise the fences have been lowered? They no longer grow the fences, they used to have stumps left from the hedges where they were cut, hitting them any lower than a foot down would somersault a horse. That no longer happens as they're now layed. The last horse to die in the gn was 6 years ago, jumping loose.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

Apparently no horse died in the Grand National.Since the year 2000 - 11 horses have died in the Grand National the last of which was in 2012.It had been reduced from 4 and a half miles to 4 and a quarter.As far as I am concerned it is a race that stops a nation and most people have their Once a year bet on the horses long may it continue.I also had Tiger Roll at 14/1 £5 each way so I enjoyed it even more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

And well done on not committing you ilegal act.

Yes, as are all meat eaters. We eat dead animals because we enjoy it, not because we have to. Hence it follows we are happy for animals to be killed for our pleasure.

Do you cheer and jeer with your friends as you slaughter it?

No, I don't do the slaughter personally but that doesn't alter the fact that animals are killed for my pleasure.

For your food. They are slaughtered to feed you, keeping you alive.

But your happy with that? Happy with me kicking a pig in the face, and then you eating a bacon butty on Sunday morning?

I don't need to eat animals to stay alive.

And in the scale of things I would say that killing a living creature is worse than kicking it. "

I don’t eat much meat now, what I do eat, I need due to having a malabsorption disease. There’s not a lot of food I can eat, and so chicken gives me a lot of my protein. It’s the same for many people.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

"

I’m equating a horse dying and saying it’s no different to me than any other animal . That’s all ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

I’m equating a horse dying and saying it’s no different to me than any other animal . That’s all ...."

It was just your part about it being hypocritical. I disagree - that’s an animal killed for sport. You can equate it to hunting. We eat meat as part of our diet.

I do think we eat too much meat and it’s detrimental for everything and everyone. That’s a whole other topic though.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

I’m equating a horse dying and saying it’s no different to me than any other animal . That’s all ....

It was just your part about it being hypocritical. I disagree - that’s an animal killed for sport. You can equate it to hunting. We eat meat as part of our diet.

I do think we eat too much meat and it’s detrimental for everything and everyone. That’s a whole other topic though. "

That’s cool that you disagree , if we all agreed about everything it would be pretty boring .

I did say in another post that I have no issue with hunting either , same difference to me . A dead cow , a dead pig , a dead fox , a dead horse . Common denominator , they are all dead animals . All dying for the greater good , that being us humans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

I’m equating a horse dying and saying it’s no different to me than any other animal . That’s all ....

It was just your part about it being hypocritical. I disagree - that’s an animal killed for sport. You can equate it to hunting. We eat meat as part of our diet.

I do think we eat too much meat and it’s detrimental for everything and everyone. That’s a whole other topic though.

That’s cool that you disagree , if we all agreed about everything it would be pretty boring .

I did say in another post that I have no issue with hunting either , same difference to me . A dead cow , a dead pig , a dead fox , a dead horse . Common denominator , they are all dead animals . All dying for the greater good , that being us humans "

Of course. Agree to disagree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

happens in horse racing fullstop not just the national -

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!

If the horse doesm't have a choice then why do the ones that unseat their rider continue running and jumping?"

Because they are herd animals. They follow.

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this."

They can say Neigh

I'll get my coat

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

"

I'm complaining about it and I don't eat meat.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

I’m equating a horse dying and saying it’s no different to me than any other animal . That’s all ....

It was just your part about it being hypocritical. I disagree - that’s an animal killed for sport. You can equate it to hunting. We eat meat as part of our diet.

I do think we eat too much meat and it’s detrimental for everything and everyone. That’s a whole other topic though.

That’s cool that you disagree , if we all agreed about everything it would be pretty boring .

I did say in another post that I have no issue with hunting either , same difference to me . A dead cow , a dead pig , a dead fox , a dead horse . Common denominator , they are all dead animals . All dying for the greater good , that being us humans

Of course. Agree to disagree "

Unless you’re a lion.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

As previously said racehorses are specifically bred to race...

Are you suggesting we stop doing this and deny thousands of horses a very good quality of life, much better than a lot of humans??

A very small minority tragically lose their life doing what they are bred and trained to do.

As for them not having a choice, I can assure you if they don't feel up to it, they won't race..When a horse digs their toes in,they won't budge.

Proportionately(check how many horses ran today) I imagine the rate is the same as humans who jog/ exercise etc having heart attacks.

The fences in the national are much softer now in accordance with h&s requirements.The racing industry and the rspca have worked together over the years.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

I'm complaining about it and I don't eat meat."

I don’t think you understand my point .

I’m not happy about any animal being killed for our delectation . Whether it’s to eat it , or it’s been hunted or for entertainment .

What I’m saying is it’s hypocritical for those who eat meat to get all upset over a horse dying , doing what it’s bred to do .

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

How can you equate a sport to eating meat!?

I’m equating a horse dying and saying it’s no different to me than any other animal . That’s all ....

It was just your part about it being hypocritical. I disagree - that’s an animal killed for sport. You can equate it to hunting. We eat meat as part of our diet.

I do think we eat too much meat and it’s detrimental for everything and everyone. That’s a whole other topic though.

That’s cool that you disagree , if we all agreed about everything it would be pretty boring .

I did say in another post that I have no issue with hunting either , same difference to me . A dead cow , a dead pig , a dead fox , a dead horse . Common denominator , they are all dead animals . All dying for the greater good , that being us humans

Of course. Agree to disagree

Unless you’re a lion."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No horse has died. The green screens are used if a jockey and or horse is injured. On this occasion it was Jockey (Charlie Deutsch) who was injured after Bechers. Please get the facts correct before reporting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No horse has died. The green screens are used if a jockey and or horse is injured. On this occasion it was Jockey (Charlie Deutsch) who was injured after Bechers. Please get the facts correct before reporting"

I've just read this too

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By *kmale201633Man
over a year ago

Southampton

As the song says, Money Talks. It's a multi million pound industry with a huge following - so rightly/wrongly the racing will never stop.

They must make sure they have the best facilities at courses, so if there are accidents it will minimise fatalities...but as said racing will never stop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No horse has died. The green screens are used if a jockey and or horse is injured. On this occasion it was Jockey (Charlie Deutsch) who was injured after Bechers. Please get the facts correct before reporting"
Let me get this straight. You want little in fab not to jump to conclusions? Good luck with that!

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

I'm complaining about it and I don't eat meat.

I don’t think you understand my point .

I’m not happy about any animal being killed for our delectation . Whether it’s to eat it , or it’s been hunted or for entertainment .

What I’m saying is it’s hypocritical for those who eat meat to get all upset over a horse dying , doing what it’s bred to do ."

I understood your point. At the time in the thread no veggies had piped up to say they were and disagreed with it! That's all I was doing. Saying I had a right to complain about it without being called a hypocrite.

Sorry for any confusion....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!

If the horse doesm't have a choice then why do the ones that unseat their rider continue running and jumping?"

That's a horses natural instinct to run, they are a herd animal and will stay with the pack. Half of these horses live a good life and it's only the unfortunate ones that die. The same could happen whilst riding a horse in a field or whilst taking part in the dressage etc

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"No horse has died. The green screens are used if a jockey and or horse is injured. On this occasion it was Jockey (Charlie Deutsch) who was injured after Bechers. Please get the facts correct before reporting"

I hate the Grand National. I believe it should be banned. I argue this even if every single horse comes home safely. I even won't put money in for a work sweepstake I hate it so much.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple
over a year ago

chester


"The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t!

Really? Do they still shoot the horses if they break a leg, even though they can recover from it given the right treatment?"

Yep, unless the owner is really sentimental.

After a broken leg the horse has lost most of its commercial value.

I wonder if they can insure against it, so it makes even more sense to put the poor beggar down.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As a few posters have pointed it out , I’ll add my two penny worth .

Race horses are bred to race .

Cattle are bred to be slaughtered and eaten .

So what’s the difference ?

As far as I am concerned not one person who sheds an ounce of sorrow over a race horse dying during a race should be eating meat ever again . If they do it’s simply hypocritical .

Or is it perhaps because we don’t see the cows , sheep , pigs and chickens being slaughtered that makes it ok to be ambivalent to their plight ?

I'm complaining about it and I don't eat meat.

I don’t think you understand my point .

I’m not happy about any animal being killed for our delectation . Whether it’s to eat it , or it’s been hunted or for entertainment .

What I’m saying is it’s hypocritical for those who eat meat to get all upset over a horse dying , doing what it’s bred to do .

I understood your point. At the time in the thread no veggies had piped up to say they were and disagreed with it! That's all I was doing. Saying I had a right to complain about it without being called a hypocrite.

Sorry for any confusion...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not meaning to spoilt this hysterical debate but it was a jockey receiving medical attention behind the screens, not a horse

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"Not meaning to spoilt this hysterical debate but it was a jockey receiving medical attention behind the screens, not a horse"

At the time it was being reported that it was a horse down. It has been mentioned numerous times on this thread that it was the jockey that was hurt. (Who, of course, I hope is ok).

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Child birth

How many women die every year doing it

Now there is a thing that should be banned .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vegetarians who drink cows milk contribute to their death. A dairy cow has to have a calf each year to contine producing milk. Female offspring join their mothers in the dairy herd but a male calf has no use and is slaughtered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The argument here covers a variety of views and thank god for freedom of speech ... but I don’t believe horses were bred to race any more than jockeys were born to ride them.. I wonder how long the National or any other race would continue if the injured rider was shot as well as the horse ..

In my opinion using any animal for entertainment or so called sport is criminal... i rest my case ...

‘ Anything that doesn’t kill you must do you good ... unless it’s a bear ... a bear will kill you’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The argument here covers a variety of views and thank god for freedom of speech ... but I don’t believe horses were bred to race any more than jockeys were born to ride them.. I wonder how long the National or any other race would continue if the injured rider was shot as well as the horse ..

In my opinion using any animal for entertainment or so called sport is criminal... i rest my case ...

‘ Anything that doesn’t kill you must do you good ... unless it’s a bear ... a bear will kill you’ "

There has been a significant number of jockeys who have lost their lives as a result of racing incidents...

As to whether horses are bred to race, what do you think that the very substantial stud fees are paid for if it isn’t to breed horses to race?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer"

You don’t seem to have made any response since it became apparent that you were completely incorrect...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer

You don’t seem to have made any response since it became apparent that you were completely incorrect..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs. "

Very true. It’s always thrown around every time, esp when a horse is hurt. Sadly, I’m not allowed to get upset for a hurt animal anymore, unless I go vegitarian.

*i think that’s the rule.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs.

Very true. It’s always thrown around every time, esp when a horse is hurt. Sadly, I’m not allowed to get upset for a hurt animal anymore, unless I go vegitarian.

*i think that’s the rule. "

Vegan. No animal products dude

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"The argument here covers a variety of views and thank god for freedom of speech ... but I don’t believe horses were bred to race any more than jockeys were born to ride them.. I wonder how long the National or any other race would continue if the injured rider was shot as well as the horse ..

In my opinion using any animal for entertainment or so called sport is criminal... i rest my case ...

‘ Anything that doesn’t kill you must do you good ... unless it’s a bear ... a bear will kill you’ "

Of course they were bred to race.... The breed of the thoroughbred has been honed and defined to be light and fast. Just as in fog breeding, tbe best of the best horses are bred to improve the breed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs.

Very true. It’s always thrown around every time, esp when a horse is hurt. Sadly, I’m not allowed to get upset for a hurt animal anymore, unless I go vegitarian.

*i think that’s the rule.

Vegan. No animal products dude"

So I have to be vegan to be perfect now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs.

Very true. It’s always thrown around every time, esp when a horse is hurt. Sadly, I’m not allowed to get upset for a hurt animal anymore, unless I go vegitarian.

*i think that’s the rule.

Vegan. No animal products dude

So I have to be vegan to be perfect now?"

You need to be a vegan with a ten inch cock for that.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs.

Very true. It’s always thrown around every time, esp when a horse is hurt. Sadly, I’m not allowed to get upset for a hurt animal anymore, unless I go vegitarian.

*i think that’s the rule.

Vegan. No animal products dude

So I have to be vegan to be perfect now?

You need to be a vegan with a ten inch cock for that."

And put the toilet seat down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As usual, lots of people talking about a subject they know fuck all about!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was always going to be some obvious idiot who came away with this once-yearly shite quote.

Turn it in, ffs.

Very true. It’s always thrown around every time, esp when a horse is hurt. Sadly, I’m not allowed to get upset for a hurt animal anymore, unless I go vegitarian.

*i think that’s the rule.

Vegan. No animal products dude

So I have to be vegan to be perfect now?

You need to be a vegan with a ten inch cock for that.

And put the toilet seat down. "

A ten inch cock? I don’t think I could logistically use a seat ever again.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

Hmmm but Golf is good ..love it lol

Bing Crosby died on a golf course....

Hahaaa bet he died happy??"

More like he died of boredom

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"As usual, lots of people talking about a subject they know fuck all about!!

"

Exactly this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this."

Totally agree, to say the horses "want" to race is utter bollocks!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

Totally agree, to say the horses "want" to race is utter bollocks! "

Put it this way, horses don’t get to say if they want to race or not!

This is a horse race, famous I agree, but far to dangerous for horse and jockey!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So do animals have a choice to be born just so we can eat them?"

It happens all the time in the animal kingdom.

Animals eat other animals. We just decided to make it easier for ourselves and farmed them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this.

I was going to say exactly this.

Me too

Life would be dull without sports that involve cruelty to animals?

I have no words"

The only reasons people have for keeping sports like horse racing and greyhound racing is "the animals love to run" and "people like to have a bet on it".

The animals do love to run, but not in the conditions that they're trained and forced to. You can see that they're terrified when they put them in the starting boxes.

Humans can give informed consent to take the risks involved in their sports, the animals can't.

There is also no need for any of them to be put down because they're injured. I've seen dogs and horses survive far worse than the broken legs that race trainers put them down for. They get put down because they're a waste of money and no longer profitable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and I totally agree with banning football.

Stupid game and even more stupid are the conversations about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The animals do love to run, but not in the conditions that they're trained and forced to. You can see that they're terrified when they put them in the starting boxes.

Humans can give informed consent to take the risks involved in their sports, the animals can't.

There is also no need for any of them to be put down because they're injured. I've seen dogs and horses survive far worse than the broken legs that race trainers put them down for. They get put down because they're a waste of money and no longer profitable."

Lmao!

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Oh and I totally agree with banning football.

Stupid game and even more stupid are the conversations about it. "

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By *exonlegs67Woman
over a year ago

cowbridge


"The argument here covers a variety of views and thank god for freedom of speech ... but I don’t believe horses were bred to race any more than jockeys were born to ride them.. I wonder how long the National or any other race would continue if the injured rider was shot as well as the horse ..

In my opinion using any animal for entertainment or so called sport is criminal... i rest my case ...

‘ Anything that doesn’t kill you must do you good ... unless it’s a bear ... a bear will kill you’

There has been a significant number of jockeys who have lost their lives as a result of racing incidents...

As to whether horses are bred to race, what do you think that the very substantial stud fees are paid for if it isn’t to breed horses to race?"

I’m sorry for those jockeys but they chose to race, the horses didn’t .. as for being bred to race, I’m fairly sure horses were not put on this earth to race, we have bred them to run as fast as possible ...regardless of the danger to the horse, or the jockey ...the plan I guess is to breed a flying horse..? It’s all about making money at the end of the day and sadly I guess that some human beings will go to any depths to do that ...

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer

You don’t seem to have made any response since it became apparent that you were completely incorrect..."

Not completely incorrect actually, a horse was pts after falling on Thursday in one of the supporting races.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Rubbish!

All those sports are played at the sportsmans own risk. The horses have no say in this."
.

Neigh neigh neigh

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By *ushandkittyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer

You don’t seem to have made any response since it became apparent that you were completely incorrect...

Not completely incorrect actually, a horse was pts after falling on Thursday in one of the supporting races."

The OP WAS completely incorrect, as they were referring to the individual race run at 5.15 on Saturday, there was no mention at all of other races at the meeting or the sport in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For some bizarre reason they keep running round even after they've thrown the cruel whip master off

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

The last time a horse died in the national 2012. surprised me too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's because pretty little girls and cute little boys don't beg to ride round and round in a school on a cow or a pig or a sheep every weekend. They are lesser animals to some.

I'd gladly eat horse

I’ve eaten horse but wouldn’t again - gave me the trots "

Hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

the green screens went up and are used for both injured horses and jockeys to stop sick people taking pictures on their phones. It allows the vets and doctors privacy to do their job. However the horse was treated and was retired after 4 grand nationals in which one he was 2nd.

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no horse died in this race. and its been years since one has.

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By *imetomingleMan
over a year ago

Chester


"The green canvas was out, horses diverted around beaches brook

A horse is being put down

Really

In 2018

We allow this barbaric race to continue

Should this race now be stopped or made much safer"

The divert was for an injured rider and not a horse, no horses got put down this year in the National

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By *imetomingleMan
over a year ago

Chester


"no horse died in this race. and its been years since one has."

I believe it's no horses killed since 2012

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes this is correct

It was an assumption I made when I saw the green curtains

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes this is correct

It was an assumption I made when I saw the green curtains"

At one point, I thought we needed green curtains for some posters in this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012 "

It’s barbaric, running should be banned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

It’s barbaric, running should be banned.

"

There was a hippo running this year.

No wonder they’re en endangered species.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

It’s barbaric, running should be banned.

There was a hippo running this year.

No wonder they’re en endangered species. "

Yeh, I think I had £2 each way and that Hippo.

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012 "

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice."

Horses are like many men; they’ll do anything to get their oats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talk about flogging a dead horse!!!!

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Horses have no Choice .

What a joker you are.

Ive had plenty of bets on Nags that have planted themselves at the beginning of a race .

Nope i'm not running today , you can sit up there all you like jockey im going nowhere.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"Race horses are one of the best cared for equine sectors ive ever worked with.

It is in their blood to race.

If they didnt want to do it or didn't enjoy it, they wouldn't carry on when they lost their jockey.

And they wouldnt get so excited when they saw that white fencing. "

Utter shite

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"Ban mma

Ban boxing

Ban racing

Ban motor sport

Ban both rugbys

Ban nfl

Ban football

And so on

All sports have a level of danger all the sports above have an element of danger it adds to the entertainment and the buzz of being involved in the sports in question.

Truth is the people doing the riding are in more danger than the horses over the big jumps.

And life would be so dull without these sports thats for sure.

Yes but the horse doesn’t have a choice!

If the horse doesm't have a choice then why do the ones that unseat their rider continue running and jumping?

Because they are herd animals and simply follow what the others are doing. Their fight or flight instinct kicks in and see all the others fleeing. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice."

trust me they do!

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice.

trust me they do! "

No they don't.

As has been stated many times in this thread, horses are herd animals. If they see one horse running, they follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice.

trust me they do!

No they don't.

As has been stated many times in this thread, horses are herd animals. If they see one horse running, they follow."

as a horse expert I can assure you they do.

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By *evinramage1Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

A dont think anythings going to get resolved on a swinging forum

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice.

trust me they do! "

Not really - most will simply do as they are trained to do unless their anxiety reaches such a high level that they rebel. Horses are astonishingly willing creatures on the whole, and I do feel the National is a bit of an abuse of that willingness.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice.

trust me they do!

No they don't.

As has been stated many times in this thread, horses are herd animals. If they see one horse running, they follow.

as a horse expert I can assure you they do. "

Actually, they react like single blokes at swingers clubs....

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire


"I think sadly the London Marathon has claimed more lives since 2012

The problem is, humans have chosen to run the marathon, horses have no choice.

trust me they do!

No they don't.

As has been stated many times in this thread, horses are herd animals. If they see one horse running, they follow.

as a horse expert I can assure you they do. "

So, the horses manage to talk amongst themselves to arrange a time and location to meet and run?

No, they are loaded onto lorries and taken somewhere, where someone is then sat on their back and are then hit with a stick to force them to run.

I'm really not seeing where they have much of a choice...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

as a horse expert I can assure you they do.

So, the horses manage to talk amongst themselves to arrange a time and location to meet and run?

No, they are loaded onto lorries and taken somewhere, where someone is then sat on their back and are then hit with a stick to force them to run.

I'm really not seeing where they have much of a choice..."

Ou can lead a horse to water.....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"A dont think anythings going to get resolved on a swinging forum"

No one has said if will be. Its a discussion forum.... That's what people are doing. Discussing a topical issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t!

Really? Do they still shoot the horses if they break a leg, even though they can recover from it given the right treatment?"

Most owners treat their racehorses as a commodity. if they have no potential for racing or stud, they are generally put down, even if the injury is survivable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t!

Really? Do they still shoot the horses if they break a leg, even though they can recover from it given the right treatment?

Most owners treat their racehorses as a commodity. if they have no potential for racing or stud, they are generally put down, even if the injury is survivable."

What utter crap, you obviously haven’t heard of the ROR and all the other places/charities that take ex racehorses and retrain them for their next career. I’ve retrained 6 ex racers and they are all out there doing well and have good homes, some came with injuries too!

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"The Grand National is a lot safer now, the horses want for nothing and are very well cared for.

Have you heard of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink” same with racing, if they don’t want to race, they won’t!

Really? Do they still shoot the horses if they break a leg, even though they can recover from it given the right treatment?

Most owners treat their racehorses as a commodity. if they have no potential for racing or stud, they are generally put down, even if the injury is survivable.

What utter crap, you obviously haven’t heard of the ROR and all the other places/charities that take ex racehorses and retrain them for their next career. I’ve retrained 6 ex racers and they are all out there doing well and have good homes, some came with injuries too! "

Are you saying that injured race horses are never killed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are not killed, they are put to sleep.

Making generalised sweeping statements, about racehorses being knocked on the head because they have an injury is untrue. I have taken on ex racers that have injuries that stop them from racing anymore, but they can still do low level comps/hacking, the owners wanted the best for their horses and to see them go on and have another career. Obviously if the injury sustained is too bad, then yes they are put to sleep, but this doesn’t just happen with ex racers, it’s happens with all horses/ponies.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"They are not killed, they are put to sleep.

Making generalised sweeping statements, about racehorses being knocked on the head because they have an injury is untrue. I have taken on ex racers that have injuries that stop them from racing anymore, but they can still do low level comps/hacking, the owners wanted the best for their horses and to see them go on and have another career. Obviously if the injury sustained is too bad, then yes they are put to sleep, but this doesn’t just happen with ex racers, it’s happens with all horses/ponies. "

You are making a distinction between "killing" and "putting to sleep"? Seriously? You're ending the horses life. What does it matter what you call it.

A quick Google shows that whilst there are charities that take in retired race horses, many are killed because there aren't enough organisations willing to take them.

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