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"Just hit play on Sky+ so don't want to know whats gone before please folks. "I hope you have all night to watch it started at 5 and still only half way throe now | |||
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"Just hit play on Sky+ so don't want to know whats gone before please folks. "stop reading this thread then dopey   | |||
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"The drivers should should just run round the track for 5 laps, lol" That rule's coming in for next year | |||
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"The drivers should should just run round the track for 5 laps, lol That rule's coming in for next year "Next year... I thought it was going to be the 327th ammendent to the regulations for this season?! | |||
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"Button wow what a driver from 21 to 2 amazing!" isn't he just love everything about him top bloke top driver | |||
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"Gutted for Michael!" Bollox to Michael. Go Button .................... | |||
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"omg i was clapping like a demented seal then  "My grandson is going to be called Jenson. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo pleased. He deserved to win on pure skill. | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words... "Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis. | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words...
Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis. "Do you mean Lewis and yes I agree | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words...
Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis. "i have said before give him the right car and he will soon be on the tail of schuamachers records i think he has been unlucky in the cars he has had cause he certainly isn't lacking in skill | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words...
Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis.
i have said before give him the right car and he will soon be on the tail of schuamachers records
i think he has been unlucky in the cars he has had cause he certainly isn't lacking in skill"one swallow does not a summer make happy girl maybe, but not a summer | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words...
Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis.
Do you mean Lewis and yes I agree"No, it was intended, I always compare him to a spoilt famous french royal | |||
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" one swallow does not a summer make happy girl maybe, but not a summer" Think a lot of guys would be happy with one swallow  | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words...
Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis.
Which one?
Do you mean Lewis and yes I agree
No, it was intended, I always compare him to a spoilt famous french royal " | |||
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" ............... My grandson is going to be called Jenson. .......... " I hope his surname isn't Healey. | |||
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"apparently it's very wet, and you need to keep out of the damp patch! "Mmmm............. damp patches, naughty thoughts!! | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? " It's all about the money nowadays. | |||
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"what a race. button was brilliant. he so deserved to win. the cream always rises,in the wet. got to say schumacher was brilliant also,4th driving the ford capri,of f1." lol @ ford capri! Yes he was amazing. My goodness i was shouting at the telly 'michael get him' lol! Neighbours must think there is a nutter next door | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays." Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free" One assumes they are paid as much for 8 laps as a full race? | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free" Not entirely true, you get free cuppa's as volunteers at Hospice shops round here. | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free One assumes they are paid as much for 8 laps as a full race?" Probably but there's much more to it than that. There's the product sponsorship, the personal appearance fees, merchandising, the ongoing benefit to the manufacturers and all the other stuff that's probably well under the counter. It's all geared to winning. Nothing intrinsically wrong with rewarding success but when it leads to some of the antics we saw during the Canadian GP you have to question the basic level of common sense amongst some of the drivers. The stuff which | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free One assumes they are paid as much for 8 laps as a full race? Probably but there's much more to it than that. There's the product sponsorship, the personal appearance fees, merchandising, the ongoing benefit to the manufacturers and all the other stuff that's probably well under the counter. It's all geared to winning. Nothing intrinsically wrong with rewarding success but when it leads to some of the antics we saw during the Canadian GP you have to question the basic level of common sense amongst some of the drivers. The stuff which" dreams are made of? | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free One assumes they are paid as much for 8 laps as a full race? Probably but there's much more to it than that. There's the product sponsorship, the personal appearance fees, merchandising, the ongoing benefit to the manufacturers and all the other stuff that's probably well under the counter. It's all geared to winning. Nothing intrinsically wrong with rewarding success but when it leads to some of the antics we saw during the Canadian GP you have to question the basic level of common sense amongst some of the drivers. The stuff which dreams are made of?" .... or young corpses. | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free One assumes they are paid as much for 8 laps as a full race? Probably but there's much more to it than that. There's the product sponsorship, the personal appearance fees, merchandising, the ongoing benefit to the manufacturers and all the other stuff that's probably well under the counter. It's all geared to winning. Nothing intrinsically wrong with rewarding success but when it leads to some of the antics we saw during the Canadian GP you have to question the basic level of common sense amongst some of the drivers. The stuff which..." ...ensures that the people who've paid £175 to go and see a race actually get to see one. | |||
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" Wasn't it Alain Prost, a five times world champon, who is credited with saying "to finish first, first you must finish?" Who was it said there are some fricking idiotic drivers out there? It's all about the money nowadays. Well thats how they earn their living, only volunteers work for free One assumes they are paid as much for 8 laps as a full race? Probably but there's much more to it than that. There's the product sponsorship, the personal appearance fees, merchandising, the ongoing benefit to the manufacturers and all the other stuff that's probably well under the counter. It's all geared to winning. Nothing intrinsically wrong with rewarding success but when it leads to some of the antics we saw during the Canadian GP you have to question the basic level of common sense amongst some of the drivers. The stuff which... ...ensures that the people who've paid £175 to go and see a race actually get to see one." The anoraks who actually attend GPs are a long way down the pecking order - rightly so in my opinion. | |||
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"Hmmm...I wonder if the BBC would pay as much money as they do for broadcast rights if they knew that every race would be raced to empty grandstands around each circuit. I think not. The people who watch F1, whether that is from an armchair or at the circuit, are the lifeblood of that sport. Without them, there are no sponsors, and without those, there is no F1." The people who watch F1 "from an armchair" and the people who watch F1 " at the circuit" are completely different people. I suspct the cost of broadcast rights would increase if nobody was allowed on the circuit for the actual race - practice etc would still still attract low-lifes, hangers-on and similar wannabees - but, if you wanted to see so-and-so die, live!, you'd have to watch it on telly - the price would rocket. | |||
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"Hmmm...I wonder if the BBC would pay as much money as they do for broadcast rights if they knew that every race would be raced to empty grandstands around each circuit. I think not. The people who watch F1, whether that is from an armchair or at the circuit, are the lifeblood of that sport. Without them, there are no sponsors, and without those, there is no F1." Well, when a football match is compelled to be played behind closed doors there's no shortage of numpties prepared to shell out for 'pay to view' access to the game. I don't pretend to understand it - but I know it works. | |||
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"Well, when a football match is compelled to be played behind closed doors there's no shortage of numpties prepared to shell out for 'pay to view' access to the game. I don't pretend to understand it - but I know it works." When that happens it's the exception not the norm. Any sport would die without it's spectators. Fans buy merchandise and watch the events either live or on TV and without those revenue streams the sponsors would desert the sport in droves. How many people would remain passionate about F1 or football if their only source of information was a listing of the results in the newspaper the morning after? | |||
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"Well, when a football match is compelled to be played behind closed doors there's no shortage of numpties prepared to shell out for 'pay to view' access to the game. I don't pretend to understand it - but I know it works. When that happens it's the exception not the norm. Any sport would die without it's spectators. Fans buy merchandise and watch the events either live or on TV and without those revenue streams the sponsors would desert the sport in droves. How many people would remain passionate about F1 or football if their only source of information was a listing of the results in the newspaper the morning after?" I know you're not that great at reading what's actually been written and that you just pick out the keywords which, wrongly, as it happens suit your case but nobody, least of all me, is suggesting that the only access to F1 news and results should be several hours after the event. The world is full of Manchester United/ F1 shirt-wearing, merchandise-buying 'fans' who haven't a clue where Old Trafford or Silverstone are located - who don't give a monkeys about crowd numbers in the sure and certain knowledge their few yen a year will never buy them a season ticket to Ibrox - or wherever. | |||
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"I know you're not that great at reading what's actually been written and that you just pick out the keywords which, wrongly, as it happens suit your case but nobody, least of all me, is suggesting that the only access to F1 news and results should be several hours after the event. " On the contrary, you mentioned events being played behind closed doors and in the context of what I was discussing, and you were attempting to, was that that scenario couldn't be applied to F1 as it's sponsors would leave the sport. " The world is full of Manchester United/ F1 shirt-wearing, merchandise-buying 'fans' who haven't a clue where Old Trafford or Silverstone are located - who don't give a monkeys about crowd numbers in the sure and certain knowledge their few yen a year will never buy them a season ticket to Ibrox - or wherever. " I've been to Silverstone many times for the F1 weekend. You couldn't possibly have known that so I'll forgive your comments as they were based upon total ignorance and were simply the musings of a frustrated man who had nothing else tangible to say. As for a season ticket to Ibrox, well, that's about as useful as an umbrella in a hurricane as anyone knowledgable about the game will confirm that the Scottish League is nothing more than giving Rangers or Celtic enough points to win it, and with each team playing each other four times it must get pretty dreary trudging along to Ibrox time after time to watch the same old boring procession. Neither Rangers or Celtic would survive in the English Premier League, as demonstrated by their abysmal record in the Champion's League. | |||
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"Well this F1 race is getting a bit stipid now! Betchu wanna eat your words...
Drop Massa, get Jenson to Ferrari, he is a better driver than drama queen Louis.
i have said before give him the right car and he will soon be on the tail of schuamachers records
i think he has been unlucky in the cars he has had cause he certainly isn't lacking in skill
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happy girl maybe, but not a summer"i was basing my comment on his F1 career so far not one race as it goes | |||
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"Not watching it what are they doing??" . Well- a bunch of over-grown boys went round and round a big loopy track, splashed through a few puddles then the one at the front won | |||
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" And re Michael Schumacher, yes he's been a great driver but he's also a d***y driver too. Imho, he was lucky to have the right car at the right time, a time when little else was seriously competing with him/them. Go back through the archives and watch whenever Schumacher has had competition, he thinks nothing of running people off the road, and endangering life in the process!! An archetypal arrogant German, or maybe I shouldn't go there!! "Schumacher was different. In contrast to the stars just before him, Prost, Senna Mansell even, who frequently moved to the "best cars", Schumacher joined uncompetitive teams, firstly Bennetton and then Ferrari, (yes Ferrari were uncompetitive ), and then worked with those teams to take them to the very top. Schumacher was no angel but what he did do, and still does, is make it hard for those BEHIND to pass. That is different from Hamilton who currently tries to drive through cars in FRONT of him. From what i saw of Montreal ( and Monaco ) the passes that Schumacher made were clean, competitive and not made under one-sided DRS rules. | |||
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"it can be boring if you are not into it,but take yesterday pure skill by button,its a skill in itself to to gat a f1 car going!" I appreciate the skill they need but much prefer Moto GP, Moto 2 or Superbikes | |||
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"yea i love all motor sports,did anyone see allan mcnish crash in the le mans 24 hour race,ffs how the hell did he walked away from that,the car was smashed to bits,i thought he was dead,but no he just got out and walked,amazing" Yes that was scarey, one of the cars flipped a few years ago I remember it on the news | |||
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" Button, on the wrong tyres when the race was stopped. Enabling him to close to with 6 seconds of Vettel. Had it not been stopped he would have lost several seconds a lap or a full pit stop. " No diff to Vettel changing his tyres when the race was stopped in Monaco two weeks ago | |||
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"yea i mean the race this weekend,did you not see it on the news!" Yes and I remembered the car flipping as well | |||
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"it can be boring if you are not into it,but take yesterday pure skill by button,its a skill in itself to to gat a f1 car going! I appreciate the skill they need but much prefer Moto GP, Moto 2 or Superbikes "To be fair Kev, Moto GP, with as few as 15 riders on the grid, all points scorers, is very processional and boring at the moment. | |||
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".. or even Gilles Villeneuve and Rene Arnoux Dijon 1979 when they banged wheels 3 times tussling for the lead on the final lap. Pure racing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDtn8QnpFg" Villeneuve was the greatest driver ever... He had PASSION. I think yesterdays race came very close to equalling the Dijon 79 race | |||
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" Button, on the wrong tyres when the race was stopped. Enabling him to close to with 6 seconds of Vettel. Had it not been stopped he would have lost several seconds a lap or a full pit stop. No diff to Vettel changing his tyres when the race was stopped in Monaco two weeks ago "Totally different. Button was not at full race pace when Vettel changed his tyres at Monaco. He was parked up immediately behind him. I do believe though that the Monaco finale would have been far far better had teams NOT been allowed to change tyres on the reformed grid. | |||
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"yea i mean the race this weekend,did you not see it on the news! Yes and I remembered the car flipping as well "From memory, was it Karl Wendlingers Merc that flipped into the crowd you refer to? Impressive. More so that he survived. | |||
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"yea i love all motor sports,did anyone see allan mcnish crash in the le mans 24 hour race,ffs how the hell did he walked away from that,the car was smashed to bits,i thought he was dead,but no he just got out and walked,amazing" it's cos we Scots are tough, but McNish was extremely lucky | |||
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"yes the 70s was a great era in f1,driver pull up for fuel or a tyre change,they have a fag,shot of whiskey and line of ,madness no wonder so many were killed!" I doubt many, if at all, were on as they drove. There were sadly a number of tragic deaths. With Hamilton's driving "style" he wouldn't have lasted a season back in the good old days. | |||
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" And re Michael Schumacher, yes he's been a great driver but he's also a d***y driver too. Imho, he was lucky to have the right car at the right time, a time when little else was seriously competing with him/them. Go back through the archives and watch whenever Schumacher has had competition, he thinks nothing of running people off the road, and endangering life in the process!! An archetypal arrogant German, or maybe I shouldn't go there!!
Schumacher was different. In contrast to the stars just before him, Prost, Senna Mansell even, who frequently moved to the "best cars", Schumacher joined uncompetitive teams, firstly Bennetton and then Ferrari, (yes Ferrari were uncompetitive ), and then worked with those teams to take them to the very top.
Schumacher was no angel but what he did do, and still does, is make it hard for those BEHIND to pass.
That is different from Hamilton who currently tries to drive through cars in FRONT of him.
From what i saw of Montreal ( and Monaco ) the passes that Schumacher made were clean, competitive and not made under one-sided DRS rules.
"Yes and unlike some Schuey hasnt been investigated in as many of the races in a Season ever as Lewis Hamilton has... So if he is a dirty so and so of a driver, how come he wasnt investigated as much. Answer is he was stopping people passing most of the time - not trying to drive through or over them! | |||
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" Button, on the wrong tyres when the race was stopped. Enabling him to close to with 6 seconds of Vettel. Had it not been stopped he would have lost several seconds a lap or a full pit stop. No diff to Vettel changing his tyres when the race was stopped in Monaco two weeks ago
Totally different. Button was not at full race pace when Vettel changed his tyres at Monaco. He was parked up immediately behind him.
I do believe though that the Monaco finale would have been far far better had teams NOT been allowed to change tyres on the reformed grid. "Agree with you there, cos I beleive Button would have won then | |||
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" And re Michael Schumacher, yes he's been a great driver but he's also a d***y driver too. Imho, he was lucky to have the right car at the right time, a time when little else was seriously competing with him/them. Go back through the archives and watch whenever Schumacher has had competition, he thinks nothing of running people off the road, and endangering life in the process!! An archetypal arrogant German, or maybe I shouldn't go there!!
Schumacher was different. In contrast to the stars just before him, Prost, Senna Mansell even, who frequently moved to the "best cars", Schumacher joined uncompetitive teams, firstly Bennetton and then Ferrari, (yes Ferrari were uncompetitive ), and then worked with those teams to take them to the very top.
Schumacher was no angel but what he did do, and still does, is make it hard for those BEHIND to pass.
That is different from Hamilton who currently tries to drive through cars in FRONT of him.
From what i saw of Montreal ( and Monaco ) the passes that Schumacher made were clean, competitive and not made under one-sided DRS rules.
Yes and unlike some Schuey hasnt been investigated in as many of the races in a Season ever as Lewis Hamilton has... So if he is a dirty so and so of a driver, how come he wasnt investigated as much. Answer is he was stopping people passing most of the time - not trying to drive through or over them!"Silly. How silly. Don't you know it's 'cos Schumacher isn't black. | |||
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" No diff to Vettel changing his tyres when the race was stopped in Monaco two weeks ago
Totally different. Button was not at full race pace when Vettel changed his tyres at Monaco. He was parked up immediately behind him.
I do believe though that the Monaco finale would have been far far better had teams NOT been allowed to change tyres on the reformed grid.
Agree with you there, cos I beleive Button would have won then "Not necessarily but would have been nice to see him try. | |||
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" And re Michael Schumacher, yes he's been a great driver but he's also a d***y driver too. Imho, he was lucky to have the right car at the right time, a time when little else was seriously competing with him/them. Go back through the archives and watch whenever Schumacher has had competition, he thinks nothing of running people off the road, and endangering life in the process!! An archetypal arrogant German, or maybe I shouldn't go there!!
Schumacher was different. In contrast to the stars just before him, Prost, Senna Mansell even, who frequently moved to the "best cars", Schumacher joined uncompetitive teams, firstly Bennetton and then Ferrari, (yes Ferrari were uncompetitive ), and then worked with those teams to take them to the very top.
Schumacher was no angel but what he did do, and still does, is make it hard for those BEHIND to pass.
That is different from Hamilton who currently tries to drive through cars in FRONT of him.
From what i saw of Montreal ( and Monaco ) the passes that Schumacher made were clean, competitive and not made under one-sided DRS rules.
Yes and unlike some Schuey hasnt been investigated in as many of the races in a Season ever as Lewis Hamilton has... So if he is a dirty so and so of a driver, how come he wasnt investigated as much. Answer is he was stopping people passing most of the time - not trying to drive through or over them!
Silly. How silly.
Don't you know it's 'cos Schumacher isn't black."Lol! is that in a Ali G voice? | |||
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" And re Michael Schumacher, yes he's been a great driver but he's also a d***y driver too. Imho, he was lucky to have the right car at the right time, a time when little else was seriously competing with him/them. Go back through the archives and watch whenever Schumacher has had competition, he thinks nothing of running people off the road, and endangering life in the process!! An archetypal arrogant German, or maybe I shouldn't go there!!
Schumacher was different. In contrast to the stars just before him, Prost, Senna Mansell even, who frequently moved to the "best cars", Schumacher joined uncompetitive teams, firstly Bennetton and then Ferrari, (yes Ferrari were uncompetitive ), and then worked with those teams to take them to the very top.
Schumacher was no angel but what he did do, and still does, is make it hard for those BEHIND to pass.
That is different from Hamilton who currently tries to drive through cars in FRONT of him.
From what i saw of Montreal ( and Monaco ) the passes that Schumacher made were clean, competitive and not made under one-sided DRS rules.
Yes and unlike some Schuey hasnt been investigated in as many of the races in a Season ever as Lewis Hamilton has... So if he is a dirty so and so of a driver, how come he wasnt investigated as much. Answer is he was stopping people passing most of the time - not trying to drive through or over them!
Silly. How silly.
Don't you know it's 'cos Schumacher isn't black.
Lol! is that in a Ali G voice?"No, it's a delayed afterthought when i realised it wasn't funny. | |||
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