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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Don't think we could have scripted a better farce. My son was pleading not guilty to motoring offences and hearing was today. He turned up but solicitor didn't. We'd only paid £1000+ for the pleasure. They weren't interested in dealing with him on the phone. Mum gets on the phone. They don't call back. Mum gets on the phone again. The head man sheepishly admits they've fucked up. Don't worry, I'll call the court and get it adjourned. My son is already in there and they are wiping the floor with him. On the phone again. Don't worry mum we will get it overturned immediately as its our fault and get another hearing. Court seems to know nothing. 12 month ban. £1000+ fine. So now he's out of a job. They're gonna refund al costs and sort out the mess but my son says he can't be bothered with it. I'm sure once he calms down he will see reason.

Just wanted to share my frustration. Hopefully a proper solicitor will now deal with it instead of some legal advisor or office junior. Could have done a better job myself.

This is a leading local firm of defence solicitors.

End of story.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While it's crap that they didn't turn up, out of interest what was he convicted of? I can't help but suspect that the lawyer was being used to get him off on a technicality rather than because he was innocent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£1000 fine Jesus what he do ? Drink drive or something ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like his solicitor fucked up. Report the firm to the complaints body.

It doesn't make your son not guilty though and the court is not going to change it's verdict.

Do you think he was guilty? Solicitors can only do so much.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation"

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Not so good

Did he do what he was charged with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice. "

Thing is, just because your representation ain't turned up you still have to, how did son know solicitor hadn't turned up ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"£1000 fine Jesus what he do ? Drink drive or something ?"

Using the highway as a racetrack which he denies. They spend their lives out in their cars, don't do drinking or drugs. Probably guilty of speeding if anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eliminate the root cause.

Don't do the crime If you don't want the fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

is there a board or somewhere where you can report bad solicitors to?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"While it's crap that they didn't turn up, out of interest what was he convicted of? I can't help but suspect that the lawyer was being used to get him off on a technicality rather than because he was innocent "

He denies using the road as a race track and I believe him. I'm his mum. He wanted to prove his innocence hence the willingness on a low wage to pay out for the cost of a solicitor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£1000 fine Jesus what he do ? Drink drive or something ?

Using the highway as a racetrack which he denies. They spend their lives out in their cars, don't do drinking or drugs. Probably guilty of speeding if anything "

As a car guy who's probably similar age to your son. He's probably done something pretty stupid to get that fine and a 12 month ban.

It's guys like him who give the rest of the modified car scene a bad name as boy racers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£1000 fine Jesus what he do ? Drink drive or something ?

Using the highway as a racetrack which he denies. They spend their lives out in their cars, don't do drinking or drugs. Probably guilty of speeding if anything "

I practiced some law in my early teens, to be banned for 12 months and a £1000 fine it's got to have been more than speeding and more than 10-20 mph above the limit, or your sons maybe pleaded not guilty and it's gone to trial ?

Has solicitor refused to represent unless he enters a guilty plea ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

Thing is, just because your representation ain't turned up you still have to, how did son know solicitor hadn't turned up ?"

Hey?? Well the solicitor wasn't there. End of. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice. "

I'm a solicitor please message me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"While it's crap that they didn't turn up, out of interest what was he convicted of? I can't help but suspect that the lawyer was being used to get him off on a technicality rather than because he was innocent

He denies using the road as a race track and I believe him. I'm his mum. He wanted to prove his innocence hence the willingness on a low wage to pay out for the cost of a solicitor. "

How low is his wage ? The legal aid board can contribute to fees when a person is on a low wage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely any motoring offences are going to be backed up by video footage etc?

If he's been pulled by a police car aren't they fitted with cameras.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can contact the Law Society if not happy with a Solicitor but it'll be a faff and they'll want the Ins & Outs of a cats arse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"is there a board or somewhere where you can report bad solicitors to? "

Yes, ombudsman after you've complained to solicitors themselves. Does sound like they are going to try and make amends but doesn't ease the stress of today.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"£1000 fine Jesus what he do ? Drink drive or something ?

Using the highway as a racetrack which he denies. They spend their lives out in their cars, don't do drinking or drugs. Probably guilty of speeding if anything

I practiced some law in my early teens, to be banned for 12 months and a £1000 fine it's got to have been more than speeding and more than 10-20 mph above the limit, or your sons maybe pleaded not guilty and it's gone to trial ?

Has solicitor refused to represent unless he enters a guilty plea ? "

Yeah he pleaded not guilty earlier. They agreed they fucked up as someone forgot to check the court list yesterday. Do you think Hollywood would like the story lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"While it's crap that they didn't turn up, out of interest what was he convicted of? I can't help but suspect that the lawyer was being used to get him off on a technicality rather than because he was innocent

He denies using the road as a race track and I believe him. I'm his mum. He wanted to prove his innocence hence the willingness on a low wage to pay out for the cost of a solicitor.

How low is his wage ? The legal aid board can contribute to fees when a person is on a low wage."

Legal aid is pretty much non existant now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"While it's crap that they didn't turn up, out of interest what was he convicted of? I can't help but suspect that the lawyer was being used to get him off on a technicality rather than because he was innocent

He denies using the road as a race track and I believe him. I'm his mum. He wanted to prove his innocence hence the willingness on a low wage to pay out for the cost of a solicitor.

How low is his wage ? The legal aid board can contribute to fees when a person is on a low wage."

This is something else I think they fucked up on at when's he first saw them. They put an application in and my son heard nothing so when he called them they suddenly needed more information and then only called him late the day before the initial hearing that he hadn't got it. I think they didn't even bother.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£1000 fine Jesus what he do ? Drink drive or something ?

Using the highway as a racetrack which he denies. They spend their lives out in their cars, don't do drinking or drugs. Probably guilty of speeding if anything

I practiced some law in my early teens, to be banned for 12 months and a £1000 fine it's got to have been more than speeding and more than 10-20 mph above the limit, or your sons maybe pleaded not guilty and it's gone to trial ?

Has solicitor refused to represent unless he enters a guilty plea ?

Yeah he pleaded not guilty earlier. They agreed they fucked up as someone forgot to check the court list yesterday. Do you think Hollywood would like the story lol"

I think Hollywood would laugh at you to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So he was driving like an idiot. On a plus point the ban and fine will be easier to deal with than the time inside he'd have got for killing someone. Every cloud and all that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With a £1000 fine and a ban were not talking speeding its bare minimum dangerous driving maybe worse so as much as the whole solicitor thing sucks were probably a bit safer walking the streets for a while

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice. "

Then appeal, it was a mis-trial unless he had previously been warned by the court that he needed to ensure his solicitors were there.

Did the court offer the services of the on duty solicitor?

Seems very strange to us

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!"

I'm sure. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely any motoring offences are going to be backed up by video footage etc?

If he's been pulled by a police car aren't they fitted with cameras. "

Exactly. The evidence is usually pretty damming with these sort of charges

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What evidence did the cps have ? Video footage ? How many police witnesses, if those officers have to attend court and your son is found guilty your son has to pay for the officers time or at least how things worked many many moons ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

Then appeal, it was a mis-trial unless he had previously been warned by the court that he needed to ensure his solicitors were there.

Did the court offer the services of the on duty solicitor?

Seems very strange to us"

The solicitors say they will appeal to get it overturned as it was their fault. Only spoken to him on phone so don't know if they offered duty solicitor. Only hope they can do it tomorrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"While it's crap that they didn't turn up, out of interest what was he convicted of? I can't help but suspect that the lawyer was being used to get him off on a technicality rather than because he was innocent

He denies using the road as a race track and I believe him. I'm his mum."

The problem is that you probably wouldn't believe him if he wasn't your son!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Son has got to have been driving fast enough or driving in a manor to warrant a 12 month ban, how long has son been driving ? Is he still on probationary 2 yrs ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£1000 fine I can only imagine a few possibilitys

1. Police witnesses have had to attend court and your sons been stung for wasting police time by lying and going to trial.

2. sons wage isn't as low as you think it is and the courts have wanted to teach him an important lesson.

3. sons been drink driving and asked for a lower disqualification to enable him to return to work quicker and got a big fine in place of the extra 12 month disqualification that the cps and courts have wavered

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What evidence did the cps have ? Video footage ? How many police witnesses, if those officers have to attend court and your son is found guilty your son has to pay for the officers time or at least how things worked many many moons ago "

There was 10 second video evidence. He knew he was never going to get off completely as he's a young lad wears a baseball cap has a noisy exhaust. But he is adamant he wasn't road racing. Like I said earlier probably speeding which he has to live with the consequences. Tbh never expected to be believed so hence the solicitor to keep the punishment down sos he has more chance of keeping his job

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By *axandbooCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Firstly

Start the complaints proceedure against the solicitors and notify the solicitors omsbudman.

Secondly

That sounds quite extreme for speeding...how long did your son hold his licence for? Remember there are limitations for new drivers. I believe kf less then 2 years they are driving on a "probationary" licence where 6 points equals a ban and courts do tend to make examples from these drivers.

Appealing the courts ruling could take years.

Back to the solicitors.

Make notes of every time you called. Did you get names of the people you spoke to?

Get things in writing, like an apology for a start

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It sounds like your son is most likely guilty. Pay the fine and move on. But by you being his mother, of course you are going to side with him. That is just natural. He must have did something wrong or he wouldnt be in that predicament.

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By *aren1956TV/TS
over a year ago

Fakenham

Thousand pound fine and a twelve month ban sounds suspiciously like drink/drug driving.

The duty solicitor would have represented him.

Why didn't you go to the court with him if you were certain he was innocent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely any motoring offences are going to be backed up by video footage etc?

If he's been pulled by a police car aren't they fitted with cameras.

Exactly. The evidence is usually pretty damming with these sort of charges"

Like I said previously I'm massively involved with cars.

Every car meet is the same 99% of the guys stick to the static rules - park up and switch off the engine. Audio cars or ones with flamer kits are the ones who keep running.

It's when people are leaving....the 1% think they are starring in the next fast and furious film, and they police are usually waiting a mile down the road for them to go speeding past.

I've no sympathy. To get that fine and ban he wasn't doing 80mph on a motorway, young lads driving like tits is one major factor into why my insurance is so bloody high!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many vehicles was in the footage ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"£1000 fine I can only imagine a few possibilitys

1. Police witnesses have had to attend court and your sons been stung for wasting police time by lying and going to trial.

2. sons wage isn't as low as you think it is and the courts have wanted to teach him an important lesson.

3. sons been drink driving and asked for a lower disqualification to enable him to return to work quicker and got a big fine in place of the extra 12 month disqualification that the cps and courts have wavered "

He hasn't lied about anything. At the end of the day it's how one person sees it and that's been proven in America recently that video evidence can be totally distorted and _iewed completely differently if slowed down. Just saying.

2. He's not even on the minimum wage due to his age. He does do a lot of overtime which bumps his pay up

3 not drink driving

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By *oyce69Man
over a year ago

Driffield


" Tbh never expected to be believed so hence the solicitor to keep the punishment down sos he has more chance of keeping his job "

Unfortunately going to court with or without a solicitor usually means they will hammer you for having the audacity to call the police liars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway let's not all jump and gang on mam, she a lioness protecting her cub at the end of the day, but mam your sons not being entirely honest with you, my son would have his Xbox taken away and confined to his room for the next 12 months, no mates or outside contact, Windows locked etc etc

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Maybe he'll learn not to speed then. Thankfully he didn't kill anyone. This time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thousand pound fine and a twelve month ban sounds suspiciously like drink/drug driving.

The duty solicitor would have represented him.

Why didn't you go to the court with him if you were certain he was innocent?"

This definitely wasn't drink or drug.

I did offer to go with him but all he needed was a solicitor to stand in his corner.

Like I've said several times most likely

guilty of speeding but they are out to make examples of anyone racing. We knew he was never going to prove his innocence he just wanted proper legal representation to get the best result. I'm sure there are lots on here done equally silly things.

Only wanted to share the farce of an afternoon and share what fuckwits the solicitors are. I'm sure they will sort it tomorrow as they wont want a complaint put in.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Anyway let's not all jump and gang on mam, she a lioness protecting her cub at the end of the day, but mam your sons not being entirely honest with you, my son would have his Xbox taken away and confined to his room for the next 12 months, no mates or outside contact, Windows locked etc etc "

Lol aren't you just a darling.

But if he's confined to his room when do I invite the guys round? Don't meet that many as it is

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe he'll learn not to speed then. Thankfully he didn't kill anyone. This time. "

I quite agree with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing is that I have said mammy is that if that solicitor is advising your son that he is banged to rights and to plead guilty then solicitor is aloud to refuse to represent him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Young lad with a boy racer car or policeman whose day was probably ruined when he had to spend hours filing paperwork over this incident who is more trust worthy.......... Im thinking hes guilty as sin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Count your lucky stars they didn't feel the need to punish him and convict him of dangerous driving , or son would be behind bars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thousand pound fine and a twelve month ban sounds suspiciously like drink/drug driving.

The duty solicitor would have represented him.

Why didn't you go to the court with him if you were certain he was innocent?

This definitely wasn't drink or drug.

I did offer to go with him but all he needed was a solicitor to stand in his corner.

Like I've said several times most likely

guilty of speeding but they are out to make examples of anyone racing. We knew he was never going to prove his innocence he just wanted proper legal representation to get the best result. I'm sure there are lots on here done equally silly things.

Only wanted to share the farce of an afternoon and share what fuckwits the solicitors are. I'm sure they will sort it tomorrow as they wont want a complaint put in. "

How fast was he going? You talk as if speeding isn't a serious offence.

Your son is young, inexperienced and drives like an idiot. Be thankfull he's not in prison or even dead himself

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Tbh never expected to be believed so hence the solicitor to keep the punishment down sos he has more chance of keeping his job

Unfortunately going to court with or without a solicitor usually means they will hammer you for having the audacity to call the police liars."

Liars is a bit strong but questioning their judgement. As I said before we can all see the same thing differently.

I was on jury service last year and I can't believe how poor the case was. The prosecution evidence was poor and even the police hadn't investigated evidence which was obvious to us without training. Good thing we are all different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

12 month disqualification ( 30mph zone = 70 mph ) 40 ( 80 ) 60 ( 100 ) 70 ( 120+ )

For him to get a 12 month disqualification he's got to have been reaching these type speeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Tbh never expected to be believed so hence the solicitor to keep the punishment down sos he has more chance of keeping his job

Unfortunately going to court with or without a solicitor usually means they will hammer you for having the audacity to call the police liars.

Liars is a bit strong but questioning their judgement. As I said before we can all see the same thing differently.

I was on jury service last year and I can't believe how poor the case was. The prosecution evidence was poor and even the police hadn't investigated evidence which was obvious to us without training. Good thing we are all different "

Your breaking the law right now by discussing court cases you've been jury service on I'd think ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The solicitor fucked up but that doesn't mean the sentence would have been any different if they had turned up.

Which court was it in? Mags or Crown?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thing is that I have said mammy is that if that solicitor is advising your son that he is banged to rights and to plead guilty then solicitor is aloud to refuse to represent him "

Solicitor took payment of fees 2 weeks ago and happy to represent him and HAVE admitted their fuck up today.

Hope you never have the need for a solicitor. It's a job to them. They don't care if you're guilty or not. They get their money. But to enable them to get the next client they have to be seen to be doing their best for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thing is that I have said mammy is that if that solicitor is advising your son that he is banged to rights and to plead guilty then solicitor is aloud to refuse to represent him

Solicitor took payment of fees 2 weeks ago and happy to represent him and HAVE admitted their fuck up today.

Hope you never have the need for a solicitor. It's a job to them. They don't care if you're guilty or not. They get their money. But to enable them to get the next client they have to be seen to be doing their best for you "

I would never pay anyone solicitor or not to say something I am more than capable of saying myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Tbh never expected to be believed so hence the solicitor to keep the punishment down sos he has more chance of keeping his job

Unfortunately going to court with or without a solicitor usually means they will hammer you for having the audacity to call the police liars.

Liars is a bit strong but questioning their judgement. As I said before we can all see the same thing differently.

I was on jury service last year and I can't believe how poor the case was. The prosecution evidence was poor and even the police hadn't investigated evidence which was obvious to us without training. Good thing we are all different

Your breaking the law right now by discussing court cases you've been jury service on I'd think ?"

They've not given any specific details so no, they're not breaking any law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol "

Your response here speaks volumes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I admire the fact that you stand up for your son, because that's what family should do. But I'm not buying any of your defence arguements in the slightest!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The solicitor fucked up but that doesn't mean the sentence would have been any different if they had turned up.

Which court was it in? Mags or Crown?"

Probably crown as the son pleaded not guilty so it's gone to trial, he may well have been initially charged with dangerous driving punishable of a 5 year prison sentence which can only be handed out by a crown court

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes. "

I agree, the guy was offering help

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes. "

Not quite sure what you mean. How do I know who this person is? I'm sure he's not going to give me his practice and registration details. Apologies if you really are a solicitor but ........ If I'd been asking for legal advice but was just relaying a farce of a story. It's a bit like when a man says he's 5'8" I just can't believe him anymore

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The solicitor fucked up but that doesn't mean the sentence would have been any different if they had turned up.

Which court was it in? Mags or Crown?

Probably crown as the son pleaded not guilty so it's gone to trial, he may well have been initially charged with dangerous driving punishable of a 5 year prison sentence which can only be handed out by a crown court "

Magistrates actually.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If his driving was getting videod something interesting must have been happening and more than likely illegal solicitor or not....kick your son's arse for driving like a dick and move on x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

East Enders is on , back in half n hr Philadelphia Mitchell is back and going on a rampage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Grant sorry , the evidence was a little confusing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£1000 fine I can only imagine a few possibilitys

1. Police witnesses have had to attend court and your sons been stung for wasting police time by lying and going to trial.

2. sons wage isn't as low as you think it is and the courts have wanted to teach him an important lesson.

3. sons been drink driving and asked for a lower disqualification to enable him to return to work quicker and got a big fine in place of the extra 12 month disqualification that the cps and courts have wavered

He hasn't lied about anything. At the end of the day it's how one person sees it and that's been proven in America recently that video evidence can be totally distorted and _iewed completely differently if slowed down. Just saying.

2. He's not even on the minimum wage due to his age. He does do a lot of overtime which bumps his pay up

3 not drink driving "

Your son will be on minimum wage for his age which is lower for those under 21 but there is still a minimum he has to be paid and he's kidding you if he's telling you otherwise

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

I agree, the guy was offering help"

Sorry to have upset so many people but this is fab. Didn't mean any offence to the gentleman. How do I know he's telling the truth

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"£1000 fine I can only imagine a few possibilitys

1. Police witnesses have had to attend court and your sons been stung for wasting police time by lying and going to trial.

2. sons wage isn't as low as you think it is and the courts have wanted to teach him an important lesson.

3. sons been drink driving and asked for a lower disqualification to enable him to return to work quicker and got a big fine in place of the extra 12 month disqualification that the cps and courts have wavered

He hasn't lied about anything. At the end of the day it's how one person sees it and that's been proven in America recently that video evidence can be totally distorted and _iewed completely differently if slowed down. Just saying.

2. He's not even on the minimum wage due to his age. He does do a lot of overtime which bumps his pay up

3 not drink driving

Your son will be on minimum wage for his age which is lower for those under 21 but there is still a minimum he has to be paid and he's kidding you if he's telling you otherwise"

Yes agree. He is on minimum for his age which isn't the living wage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

I agree, the guy was offering help

Sorry to have upset so many people but this is fab. Didn't mean any offence to the gentleman. How do I know he's telling the truth "

Maybe take him up on his offer to discuss it and make your mind up from the results of that.?

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over a year ago


"Grant sorry , the evidence was a little confusing "

And now I've missed the first 5 mins. Have to do catchup

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

I agree, the guy was offering help

Sorry to have upset so many people but this is fab. Didn't mean any offence to the gentleman. How do I know he's telling the truth "

No upset here at all.

I think your son has been let down.

Nothing more than a stupid silly young fool, but loads of them out there.

And I would be a hypocrite as I got to 12 points and banned for 6 months if I didn't remember that when I comment on him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

I agree, the guy was offering help

Sorry to have upset so many people but this is fab. Didn't mean any offence to the gentleman. How do I know he's telling the truth "

You've nothing to be sorry about taking the word of your baby boy ain't a crime

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over a year ago


"Thing is that I have said mammy is that if that solicitor is advising your son that he is banged to rights and to plead guilty then solicitor is aloud to refuse to represent him "

I think this is what has happened. Xxx

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over a year ago

There's no such offence as "using the road as a racetrack" judging by the fine I'm guessing he has either been done several times before or it's something serious like dangerous driving or maybe failing to stop for the police and taking chase. His sicitors sounds garbage tho I'll give you that. Hopefully your son will spend his 12 month ban realising it's not cool to drive like a prick.

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over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

Not quite sure what you mean. How do I know who this person is? I'm sure he's not going to give me his practice and registration details. Apologies if you really are a solicitor but ........ If I'd been asking for legal advice but was just relaying a farce of a story. It's a bit like when a man says he's 5'8" I just can't believe him anymore "

It was your flippant responce I was refering to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There's no such offence as "using the road as a racetrack" judging by the fine I'm guessing he has either been done several times before or it's something serious like dangerous driving or maybe failing to stop for the police and taking chase. His sicitors sounds garbage tho I'll give you that. Hopefully your son will spend his 12 month ban realising it's not cool to drive like a prick. "

FYI. First offence. Stopped immediately. And charge is wording to that effect.

Sorry you're all getting so angry about this. I'm not saying he's innocent just conveying the events of the day. We are all entitled to legal representation whether innocent or guilty and we're not even sponging off the state. It's all been paid for, up front

Young lads are fuckwits when it comes to many things. As parents we have to do our best to help them and protect them no matter what. We make our choices in life and live with the consequences. And that we are. Havnt been asking for sympathy or for you all to say he must be innocent. Just sharing a story.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

Not quite sure what you mean. How do I know who this person is? I'm sure he's not going to give me his practice and registration details. Apologies if you really are a solicitor but ........ If I'd been asking for legal advice but was just relaying a farce of a story. It's a bit like when a man says he's 5'8" I just can't believe him anymore

It was your flippant responce I was refering to."

get a life. Take it in the humour it was meant. This is fab. Chill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recently got pulled for setting off on my bike at a level crossing before the lights went off. The barriers were up so I jumped the lights according to the copper.

When I looked at the video evidence (he was 100m away and there were bushes between the road he was on and the crossing) it was inconclusive as it only showed me after I had gone through them and pulled out in front of him at the speed limit. He was just pissed because I did that.

I ignored the summons. It's gone away.

So what I'm saying is you want to protect your son, but he probably hasn't been honest with you.

I was a young lad doing what I wanted once, and I was always lying to my mum.

Hope it gets sorted.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"There's no such offence as "using the road as a racetrack" judging by the fine I'm guessing he has either been done several times before or it's something serious like dangerous driving or maybe failing to stop for the police and taking chase. His sicitors sounds garbage tho I'll give you that. Hopefully your son will spend his 12 month ban realising it's not cool to drive like a prick.

FYI. First offence. Stopped immediately. And charge is wording to that effect.

Sorry you're all getting so angry about this. I'm not saying he's innocent just conveying the events of the day. We are all entitled to legal representation whether innocent or guilty and we're not even sponging off the state. It's all been paid for, up front

Young lads are fuckwits when it comes to many things. As parents we have to do our best to help them and protect them no matter what. We make our choices in life and live with the consequences. And that we are. Havnt been asking for sympathy or for you all to say he must be innocent. Just sharing a story. "

that's about it. The solicitor should have turned up or told you that he wasn't going to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's no such offence as "using the road as a racetrack" judging by the fine I'm guessing he has either been done several times before or it's something serious like dangerous driving or maybe failing to stop for the police and taking chase. His sicitors sounds garbage tho I'll give you that. Hopefully your son will spend his 12 month ban realising it's not cool to drive like a prick.

FYI. First offence. Stopped immediately. And charge is wording to that effect.

Sorry you're all getting so angry about this. I'm not saying he's innocent just conveying the events of the day. We are all entitled to legal representation whether innocent or guilty and we're not even sponging off the state. It's all been paid for, up front

Young lads are fuckwits when it comes to many things. As parents we have to do our best to help them and protect them no matter what. We make our choices in life and live with the consequences. And that we are. Havnt been asking for sympathy or for you all to say he must be innocent. Just sharing a story. "

If it's his first offence and he stopped immediately then that only further questions just how bad his standard of dribing was.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

You said motoring offences, it seems to me the magistrates have given himm a sentence and fine that they think will be a sufficient punishment for the offence and hopefully deter him in the future..

If the solicitor had been present I'm not sure what he might have been able to do, lesser fine lesser ban maybe... He might not have learnt a lesson if that had been the case..

Hope you get some sort of redress against the solicitors ...

Hope your son learns that the roads aren't race tracks .. although track days are great fun and are in a far safer environment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's no such offence as "using the road as a racetrack" judging by the fine I'm guessing he has either been done several times before or it's something serious like dangerous driving or maybe failing to stop for the police and taking chase. His sicitors sounds garbage tho I'll give you that. Hopefully your son will spend his 12 month ban realising it's not cool to drive like a prick.

FYI. First offence. Stopped immediately. And charge is wording to that effect.

Sorry you're all getting so angry about this. I'm not saying he's innocent just conveying the events of the day. We are all entitled to legal representation whether innocent or guilty and we're not even sponging off the state. It's all been paid for, up front

Young lads are fuckwits when it comes to many things. As parents we have to do our best to help them and protect them no matter what. We make our choices in life and live with the consequences. And that we are. Havnt been asking for sympathy or for you all to say he must be innocent. Just sharing a story. "

I wasn't getting angry at all. My own son got done for drink driving, no insurance and no licence, he was driving a car I bought him for his 18th and he took it for a spin early one morning after a night out and before he'd passed his test. He got a 12 month ban and 270 quid fine, my point was, to get a 1000 quid fine the offence must have been serious and the evidence overwhelming, had he have pleaded guilty the fine would have been a lot less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am sorry for your son's plight but he must have been going very fast to be accused of using the road like a racetrack. As you weren't there you cannot say he wasn't.

Just be grateful you still have a son and he didn't end up in a body bag as a result of his reckless driving.

If you don't want to hear stuff like this you should not post a thread about it. No one on here can help you. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the way all the people are posting on here like they have never broken the speed limit , like they never drove like a tit when they were younger . Let's face it 99% of us did me included. Yes speeding is dangerous everyone knows that but you don't have to be driving fast to be dangerous . Some of the most dangerous things I've come across on the road over the years have been from quite the opposite.

I personally think there should be more controlled places/ areas where young people can get it out of there systems in a much safer controlled environment. Let's face it you are never going to stop it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More pressing matters , Grant Mitchels leather jacket, surely know ones been able to keep a jacket as long as he has and it still look brand new ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Noones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thousand pound fine and a twelve month ban sounds suspiciously like drink/drug driving.

The duty solicitor would have represented him.

Why didn't you go to the court with him if you were certain he was innocent?

This definitely wasn't drink or drug.

I did offer to go with him but all he needed was a solicitor to stand in his corner.

Like I've said several times most likely

guilty of speeding but they are out to make examples of anyone racing. We knew he was never going to prove his innocence he just wanted proper legal representation to get the best result. I'm sure there are lots on here done equally silly things.

Only wanted to share the farce of an afternoon and share what fuckwits the solicitors are. I'm sure they will sort it tomorrow as they wont want a complaint put in. "

So you didn't go to court and hear what was said first hand, and your son didn't want his mums support in person. He's hiding something from you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love the way all the people are posting on here like they have never broken the speed limit , like they never drove like a tit when they were younger . Let's face it 99% of us did me included. Yes speeding is dangerous everyone knows that but you don't have to be driving fast to be dangerous . Some of the most dangerous things I've come across on the road over the years have been from quite the opposite.

I personally think there should be more controlled places/ areas where young people can get it out of there systems in a much safer controlled environment. Let's face it you are never going to stop it. "

I have never broken the speed limit, I can assure you. I can't drive x

We are not talking about speeding, we are talking about using the road as a racetrack. I guess you won't mind if some idiot doing that hits you, well as you will probably be dead,you won't be bothered x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love the way all the people are posting on here like they have never broken the speed limit , like they never drove like a tit when they were younger . Let's face it 99% of us did me included. Yes speeding is dangerous everyone knows that but you don't have to be driving fast to be dangerous . Some of the most dangerous things I've come across on the road over the years have been from quite the opposite.

I personally think there should be more controlled places/ areas where young people can get it out of there systems in a much safer controlled environment. Let's face it you are never going to stop it. "

There is. They are called track days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why didn't your son tell the court his solicitor was not there and he had no representation

He did on several occasions but they weren't interested. Justice.

I'm a solicitor please message me!

I'm sure. Lol

Your response here speaks volumes.

Not quite sure what you mean. How do I know who this person is? I'm sure he's not going to give me his practice and registration details. Apologies if you really are a solicitor but ........ If I'd been asking for legal advice but was just relaying a farce of a story. It's a bit like when a man says he's 5'8" I just can't believe him anymore

It was your flippant responce I was refering to.

get a life. Take it in the humour it was meant. This is fab. Chill"

Regarding your son I do think he has bullshitted you a bit but what teen doesn't when they have do something wrong and obv stupid. We're you there for all the solicitors meetings? Maybe he wasn't prepared to represent him if he didn't pled guilty. I don't think it was wise of you to not attend your son's hearing as this would of been seen that you think he is at fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love the way all the people are posting on here like they have never broken the speed limit , like they never drove like a tit when they were younger . Let's face it 99% of us did me included. Yes speeding is dangerous everyone knows that but you don't have to be driving fast to be dangerous . Some of the most dangerous things I've come across on the road over the years have been from quite the opposite.

I personally think there should be more controlled places/ areas where young people can get it out of there systems in a much safer controlled environment. Let's face it you are never going to stop it.

There is. They are called track days "
.

Which obviously cost money money they aren't going to spend if they can do the same in a halfords car park

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love the way all the people are posting on here like they have never broken the speed limit , like they never drove like a tit when they were younger . Let's face it 99% of us did me included. Yes speeding is dangerous everyone knows that but you don't have to be driving fast to be dangerous . Some of the most dangerous things I've come across on the road over the years have been from quite the opposite.

I personally think there should be more controlled places/ areas where young people can get it out of there systems in a much safer controlled environment. Let's face it you are never going to stop it.

There is. They are called track days .

Which obviously cost money money they aren't going to spend if they can do the same in a halfords car park "

Then they live with the consequences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There is. They are called track days "

This

.....Having said that street racing is getting out of hand. Maybe if the government were to join the track owners in sething up open days. People would have somewhere to go.

.....Having said that, if they can afford all that work on their shitty little saxo's then they can afford the price of a track day.

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