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WHAT MAKES YOU PROUD TO BE BRITISH?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I like our rich heritage, and our royal family. Everywhere you go in uk theres somthing to learn or somthing to savour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a proud Yorkshireman

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

Must admit, I'm not paricularly proud to be British, but I'm very proud to be Native English.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well im not a royalist in fact not keen on then at all. The best thing about the uk is our diverse cultures and tolerance no doubt. And a decent pint of bitter.

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

proud to be Scottish - one of the most beautiful countries and unsurpassable friendliness (IMO)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I'm tucking into a great big fry up and I realise I'm part of the nation that thought up this delight....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Proud to be Cornish. Does anyone have any Cornish in them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Proud to be Cornish. Does anyone have any Cornish in them?"

I had a pasty yesterday. Does that count?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in my best Topol voice....TRADITION!!!!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Well im half english and half irish does that make me a mongrel. Actually im quite proud to live in the smallest county in England its beautiful here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where is Al Murray when you need him?

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By *iteskinMan
over a year ago

Cardiff/Newport/Bristol/M4

i,m proud of all the english pussy i have devoured over the years apart from that i cant really say!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Proud to be Cornish. Does anyone have any Cornish in them?"

If your offering I will have some cornish

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm another proud to be Scottish sort!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im proud to be a devonshire maid

oooohhh arghhhh lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being British is about driving in a German Car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then on the way to your home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab to sit on a Swedish sofa and watch USA shows on a Japanese TV. And most of all being suspicious of anything foreign. Oh and Only in Britain... Can you get a pizza to your home faster than an ambulance. Only in Britain do banks leave both doors open and chain pens to the counter. Also supermarkets make sick people walk to the back of the shop for prescriptions whilst healthy people get their fags at the front of the shop. We might be British, but by fuck we're funny!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im not british im english, saying your british is like a french man saying hes european.

but what makes me proud of beeing english, prob our acceptance of other cultures even if it reduces our own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The British Lions engender a sense of pride fer me...

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

We truly are polite,having travelled widely even londoners are well mannered

The nhs and welfare state,what we have left

Our beautiful countryside,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh… idk,,,, reasons to be proud of being British?…… hmmmm off the top of my head…..

Erm……

A

Anemometer - Robert Hooke

B

Disc Brakes - Frederick William Lanchester

C

Tin Can - Peter Durand

Cat Eyes - Percy Shaw

Portland Cement - Joseph Aspdin Cordite - Sir James Dewar, Sir Frederick Abel

Corkscrews - H.S. Heeley

Crossword Puzzles - Arthur Wynne

D

Depth Charges Diving Equipment/Scuba Gear - John Smeaton, William James, Henry Fleuss

E

EKG (Underlying Principles) - Various

Electric Motor - Michael Faraday Electromagnet - William Sturgeon

F

Fax Machine - Alexander Bain

G

Gas Mask -John Tyndall and others

H

Dew-point Hygrometer - John Frederic Daniell Holography - Dennis Gábor

I-K

Internal Combustion Engine - Samuel Brown

Jet Engines - Sir Frank Whittle Kelvin Scale - Lord William Thomson Kelvin

L

Metal Lathe - Henry Maudslay invented the first in 1797.

Lawn Mower - Edwin Beard Budding

Lightbulbs - Humphry Davy, Sir Joseph Wilson Swan, James Bowman Lindsay Locomotive - Richard Trevithick

Power Loom - Edmund Cartwright

M

Little Nipper Mousetrap - James Henry Atkinson

N

Pass

O

Pass

P-Q

Penicillin - Alexander Fleming

Penny Farthing - James Starley

Periodic Table - John Newlands Periscope - Sir Howard Grubb

Polyester - John Rex Whinfield and James Tennant Dickson

Puckle Gun - John Puckle

R

Radar Locating of Aircraft - Sir Robert Alexander Watson-Watt

Radio (Underlying Principles) - James Clerk Maxwell Rubber Bands - Stephen Perry

Rubber Masticator - Thomas Hancock

S

Seed Drill - Jethro Tull

Seismometer - James Forbes

Seismograph - John Milne, Sir James Alfred Ewing, Thomas Gray

Sewing Machines - Thomas Saint

Shrapnel - Henry Shrapnel

Steam Engine - Thomas Savery, Thomas Newcomen, James Watt Steel Production - Sir Henry Bessemer

Submarine - William Bourne,

Spinning Jenny - James Hargreaves

Spinning Frame - Richard Arkwright

Spinning Mule - Samuel Crompton

T

Television - John Logie Baird

Thermos - Sir James Dewar Toilet Paper - British Perforated Paper Company

Torpedo - Robert Whitehead 1866

U-V

Umbrella (steel-ribbed) - Samuel Fox

Universal Joint - Robert Hooke (also Iris Diaphragm, Balance Spring) Vacuum Cleaner - Hubert Cecil Booth

Viagra - Peter Dunn, Albert Wood, Dr Nicholas Terrett

W-Z

Wacky Inventions - Arthur Paul Pedrick

Waterproof Fabric - Charles Macintos

And of course…….The World Wide Web - Tim Berners-Lee

Yes of course I googled the list....….

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

I'm a Mercian first, an Englishman second and British last.

I do have a fondness for the Union Jack though....(...waits for trap to spring...)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

soxy what a fab post xxxxxx love you lot xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a Mercian first, an Englishman second and British last.

I do have a fondness for the Union Jack though....(...waits for trap to spring...)

"

OMG Viccyboi.....The Butchers Apron...I think your gonna get it !!!!! ouch.......its gonna sting ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"proud to be Scottish - one of the most beautiful countries and unsurpassable friendliness (IMO)"
. Couldn't agree more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"soxy what a fab post xxxxxx love you lot xxx"

Awww Jo.....

Love and Huggles right back at ya....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well as I am part English, Irish and Scottish (dont ask which bits are which lol )

I am proud to be British.. I grew up expected to stand every time the National Athem was Played,and am very much a Royalist, my family on my Dads side pretty much all are servicemen and women.. So brought up very much that we are a proud Nation... My Dad still gets very depressed that we are no longer such a great Nation.

I am Proud to be British and get very upset when I see it crumbling around me day in, day out.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I`m abroad I always say I`m British ....I`m proud as larry to be a Brit ...our values of tolerance and fair play..and importantly fer me ...sticking up fer the underdog ....tho I do have to confront some of our past attitudes and policies etc ...some of which I ain`t proud of ..

The stand we`ve taken against oppressors and the men and women who fought for my freedom make me proud!!....Our fortitude in last great war esp...Bulldog Spirit.et al..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not a royalist but do think that the queen has done a fantastic job in all her years .

Im mainly proud to say im british but do cringe at things like behaviour at footie matches, abroad etc.

makes ya hair curl sometimes

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

marden

proud to be a janner, even if i live in exile in kent. Proud to be british and proud of our sense of humour, which we have exported worldwide

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im not a royalist but do think that the queen has done a fantastic job in all her years .

Im mainly proud to say im british but do cringe at things like behaviour at footie matches, abroad etc.

makes ya hair curl sometimes "

I`m with you on that one Peaches ....seeing yobs wearing Union Flag shorts abroad, and the way they behave makes me turn away with disgust....

Its unbridled jingoism.....I`ve respect fer someone who has a strong national identity ...we should treasure our cultures....but as in the example of the British Lions ...we can and do come together in a common cause....least thats how I see and feel about things ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess I’m kinda proud, the likes of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones and William Shakespeare and Charles Dickens and well the list just goes on and on, hail from these shores ….

But that’s kinda cancelled out by the likes of Johann Sebastian Bach being a “German”……of all things.... and OMG…..The French language sounds so bloom’in seductive,,, even when they are talk about prunes ffs..... ……

sigh……and don’t get me started on Italian fashions and their fabulous dress sense,,,,,,

Shucks it sucks being British sometimes……

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing springs to mind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im proud to be welsh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not about nationality, about being the best you can be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im proud to be welsh! "

And so you should be!!!!!Ffs,,,, I’d be seriously proud if I could say……

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch"......instead of

St Mary's Church in the hollow of the white hazel near the rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio by the red cave….

The welsh can be such show-off's when it come to making up long words….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im proud to be welsh!

And so you should be!!!!!Ffs,,,, I’d be seriously proud if I could say……

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch"......instead of

St Mary's Church in the hollow of the white hazel near the rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio by the red cave….

The welsh can be such show-off's when it come to making up long words….

"

pmsl!! i know.....we're that clever xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"proud to be a janner, even if i live in exile in kent. Proud to be british and proud of our sense of humour, which we have exported worldwide"

janners rock! why you move??

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

As nobody sprung my trap I'll just show off any way.

It is sometimes stated that the Union Flag should only be called the Union Jack when flown from a naval vessel in port.

This is incorrect, as in 1908 a government minister stated, in response to a Parliamentary question, that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag" thus both terms are now acceptable in common use.

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As nobody sprung my trap I'll just show off any way.

It is sometimes stated that the Union Flag should only be called the Union Jack when flown from a naval vessel in port.

This is incorrect, as in 1908 a government minister stated, in response to a Parliamentary question, that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag" thus both terms are now acceptable in common use.

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over. "

ta. now where is the indifferent smiley?

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston


"As nobody sprung my trap I'll just show off any way.

It is sometimes stated that the Union Flag should only be called the Union Jack when flown from a naval vessel in port.

This is incorrect, as in 1908 a government minister stated, in response to a Parliamentary question, that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag" thus both terms are now acceptable in common use.

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over.

ta. now where is the indifferent smiley?"

feckin foreigner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As nobody sprung my trap I'll just show off any way.

It is sometimes stated that the Union Flag should only be called the Union Jack when flown from a naval vessel in port.

This is incorrect, as in 1908 a government minister stated, in response to a Parliamentary question, that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag" thus both terms are now acceptable in common use.

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over.

ta. now where is the indifferent smiley?

feckin foreigner "

yes I do

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By *berman5Man
over a year ago

aberystwyth


"im proud to be welsh! "
.

Da iawn xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was proud to be from Peterborough until the polish moved in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was proud to be from Peterborough until the polish moved in."

ooo I love that especially beeswax.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston


"

feckin foreigner

yes I do "

I'm Danish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

feckin foreigner

yes I do

I'm Danish "

mmmm can I lick your pastry?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was proud to be from Peterborough until the polish moved in."

Why's that ?

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston


"

feckin foreigner

yes I do

I'm Danish

mmmm can I lick your pastry?"

Ja tak.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Stor mundfuld?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As nobody sprung my trap I'll just show off any way.

It is sometimes stated that the Union Flag should only be called the Union Jack when flown from a naval vessel in port.

This is incorrect, as in 1908 a government minister stated, in response to a Parliamentary question, that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag" thus both terms are now acceptable in common use.

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over. "

I don't think it's compulsory for a 'jack' to be a smaller flag but it derives its name from the jack staff which tends to be small and so couldn't carry a large flag.

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By *ouple1234Couple
over a year ago

BELFAST UK

very proud to be british esp from northern ireland with my great great granda fighting in ww2 and as well as the culture we have in northern ireland, it would be nice to see the english take part more in the culture we have here as back years ago it was a very big thing on the mainland uk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all this talk of large and small staffs is making me randy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was proud to be from Peterborough until the polish moved in.

Why's that ?"

You try walking down millfield during the day and you will find out. Go into town more foreign than english. My youngest at school so many polish coming in and the teachers spend more time teaching them because they dont speak english than the rest of the class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX"

Is that the same French who surrendered during WWII?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

French Backbone? An Oxymoron? A bit like American Military Intelligence or German Sense of Humour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

Is that the same French who surrendered during WWII?"

Yes and its the same British public that has been surrendering to our successive governments ever since! R

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By *ouple_m_and_jCouple
over a year ago

Darlington

What makes me proud to be British? The fact that we are who we are as a nation - and the whole world knows it.

We are made of such diverse culture, such contrasting backgrounds, and yet in the face of the rest of the world, we stand together to BE British.

I'm proud that us Brits are whoever the hell we want to be

Oh and according to recent sex research (look up Sex Diaries Experiment) we have the most diverse range of emotionally based sexual fantasies of all the tested countries.

Americans came last, their fantasies all came from B grade porn :P

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over. "

If it in reference to the Union Flag being on a naval ship the work Jack would be from the term Male sailor as they were know in the olden days as "Jacks" for males and "Jennys" for females. Which would make sense as in them days only males served on ships as was believed bad luck for women to be on a ship

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX"

Don't be fooled into believing that the French always get their own way when they strike or take to the streets, block roads etc.

Their infamous 'Tour de Force' often fizzles out like a damp squib, they recently held massive protests about spiralling fuel prices in the Lyon area, the result?......Prices still went up by nearly Eight percent since the New Year.

You often hear about their protests, you rarely hear about what they have actually achieved.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

The scenery in Scotland takes my breath away at times.......

and always happy to be part of Britain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

Don't be fooled into believing that the French always get their own way when they strike or take to the streets, block roads etc.

Their infamous 'Tour de Force' often fizzles out like a damp squib, they recently held massive protests about spiralling fuel prices in the Lyon area, the result?......Prices still went up by nearly Eight percent since the New Year.

You often hear about their protests, you rarely hear about what they have actually achieved."

But at least they attempt to do something, while the Brits just sit grumbling into their, increasingly expensive, beer. R

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What makes me proud to be British? The fact that we are who we are as a nation - and the whole world knows it.

We are made of such diverse culture, such contrasting backgrounds, and yet in the face of the rest of the world, we stand together to BE British.

I'm proud that us Brits are whoever the hell we want to be

Oh and according to recent sex research (look up Sex Diaries Experiment) we have the most diverse range of emotionally based sexual fantasies of all the tested countries.

Americans came last, their fantasies all came from B grade porn :P"

^^^^^^^^ likes this

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry


"I'm another proud to be Scottish sort! "

what u want a medal ?...

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

Don't be fooled into believing that the French always get their own way when they strike or take to the streets, block roads etc.

Their infamous 'Tour de Force' often fizzles out like a damp squib, they recently held massive protests about spiralling fuel prices in the Lyon area, the result?......Prices still went up by nearly Eight percent since the New Year.

You often hear about their protests, you rarely hear about what they have actually achieved.

But at least they attempt to do something, while the Brits just sit grumbling into their, increasingly expensive, beer. R"

Poll Tax protests....Student Fees Protests.....just the start of what is to come I should think.

Sorry to say but I truly believe that Tory driven 'reforms' in the next two or three years will lead to severe disruption on our streets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is where I lay my hat and call home!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

Is that the same French who surrendered during WWII?

Yes and its the same British public that has been surrendering to our successive governments ever since! R"

I'm sure anyone who considered themselves British would point out there's a world of difference between 'surrendering' to your own government and surrendering to a foreign, invading power.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston


"As nobody sprung my trap I'll just show off any way.

It is sometimes stated that the Union Flag should only be called the Union Jack when flown from a naval vessel in port.

This is incorrect, as in 1908 a government minister stated, in response to a Parliamentary question, that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag" thus both terms are now acceptable in common use.

The term 'jack' is most likely to be simply a

diminutive that shows a smaller version of something, so a Union Jack was a smaller flag flown on naval vessels.

British lesson over.

I don't think it's compulsory for a 'jack' to be a smaller flag but it derives its name from the jack staff which tends to be small and so couldn't carry a large flag."

Union Jack was in use before the jackstaff even existed on ships I believe. The origin of jack is a bit of a mystery, but the size one gets my vote. Not all Union Jacks are small, you're dead right.

So how many of you know which way up to fly our national flag?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"

So how many of you know which way up to fly our national flag? "

The right way surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".............

So how many of you know which way up to fly our national flag? "

Guilty. With the broad white stripe of St George at the top and nearest the hoist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".............

So how many of you know which way up to fly our national flag?

Guilty. With the broad white stripe of St George* at the top and nearest the hoist."

* spot the deliberate mistake

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Never British, always Welsh!

I know the Scots surrendered and were "invited" to join the Union, but not us!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

English..And a southern one at that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never British, always Welsh!

I know the Scots surrendered and were "invited" to join the Union, but not us!"

We weren't invited. We were bribed.

Sic a parcel o rogues.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


".............

So how many of you know which way up to fly our national flag?

Guilty. With the broad white stripe of St George* at the top and nearest the hoist.

* spot the deliberate mistake "

You mean about the Cross of Saint George?

Well, he was a russian who never came to the UK, so dunno why they call it that for starters.

Then there's the fact that the flag was actually brought over by Genoa'es money lenders, (from the city state of Genoa) and placed above their shops as a way of avoiding paying taxes to the English Govt. So it was used as a device to enable tax dodgers (criminals) to commit crimes.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I was always under the impression that George was born to a Turkish father who was serving in the Roman army as a high ranking official and his mother was from Palestine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being British is about driving in a German Car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then on the way to your home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab to sit on a Swedish sofa and watch USA shows on a Japanese TV. And most of all being suspicious of anything foreign. Oh and Only in Britain... Can you get a pizza to your home faster than an ambulance. Only in Britain do banks leave both doors open and chain pens to the counter. Also supermarkets make sick people walk to the back of the shop for prescriptions whilst healthy people get their fags at the front of the shop. We might be British, but by fuck we're funny! "

Absolutely briliant, funny & just so true, love your post, and am every bit as british as you, although i do drive a ford, but i'm sure it was made in germany lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

i love the seasons winter spring and summer when the gardens are beauful and the colours in autumn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

Is that the same French who surrendered during WWII?

Yes and its the same British public that has been surrendering to our successive governments ever since! R

I'm sure anyone who considered themselves British would point out there's a world of difference between 'surrendering' to your own government and surrendering to a foreign, invading power."

Absolutely, one means theres a good chance of getting killed if you don't, along with your family.

The other means you may,just may,have to appear in court. R

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was proud to be from Peterborough until the polish moved in.

Why's that ?

You try walking down millfield during the day and you will find out. Go into town more foreign than english. My youngest at school so many polish coming in and the teachers spend more time teaching them because they dont speak english than the rest of the class."

ne'er mind next generation they will be as British as you are.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Proud to be in a multicultural society-not.

Proud to live in a country that favours diversity over all other issues-not.

Proud to live in a country of people who bend over and take it up the arse on a daily basis-not.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I'm a proud Yorkshireman "
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm funny that , you lot all say the same thing...*prepares for potted history on them there parts*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am sooooooooooo proud to be british

now i must go back to work someone on benifits is counting on me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Proud to be in a multicultural society-not.

Proud to live in a country that favours diversity over all other issues-not.

Proud to live in a country of people who bend over and take it up the arse on a daily basis-not.

"

not up for some anal fun then

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

you offering?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm struggling to think of anything if I'm honest.

The countryside?

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By *avidtraceyCouple
over a year ago

Ruthin

This is why we are British:

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France,

we shall fight on the seas and oceans,

we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,

we shall fight on the beaches,

we shall fight on the landing grounds,

we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,

we shall fight in the hills;

we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

While the french waiter asked the first german office to set foot in gay paree - A table for how many sir!

The french claim that the rhost beef cant cook!!!! no we cant - weve been too busy fighting your f*** wars!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you offering?"
shall we get a room?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Proud to be in a multicultural society-not.

Proud to live in a country that favours diversity over all other issues-not.

Proud to live in a country of people who bend over and take it up the arse on a daily basis-not.

"

Speaking of taking it up the arse, Stephen Fry told a delightful story on QI.

Winston Churchill was receiving his morning brief from his PPS.

PPS: "A delicate matter Prime Minister. One of your ministers was caught 'in flagrante' with a Guardsman on the Heath last night"

WC: "On the heath?"

PPS: "Yes Prime Minister"

WC: "Last night?"

PPS: "Yes Prime Minister"

WC: "It was minus six last night"

PPS: "Indeed Prime Minister"

WC: "Makes you proud to be British"

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By *avidtraceyCouple
over a year ago

Ruthin

WC:

“I may be d*unk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

British to a tee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"WC:

“I may be d*unk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

British to a tee "

wow there is some well profound graffiti going down now in the WCs then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I AM proud to be British when we face the rest of the world, however when the Six Nations starts, I am English, through and through!

So the English rugby team makes me proud, even if they lose, as long as they play with heart and integrity.

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By *avidtraceyCouple
over a year ago

Ruthin

Yes, even though the British pubilc shat on him SIR WC saved our bacon

And when the six nations start i am proud to be welsh lol

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well there was none bldy left this morning when I wanted some.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"you offering? shall we get a room? "

It's heading that way lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, even though the British pubilc shat on him SIR WC saved our bacon

................."

The same thing happened to Gordon Brown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?"

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)


"I'm a proud Yorkshireman "

Same here Yorkshire and proud. I Don't see my self as British or English although i guess i am but i have my allegiances with my county first.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"I AM proud to be British when we face the rest of the world, however when the Six Nations starts, I am English, through and through!

So the English rugby team makes me proud, even if they lose, as long as they play with heart and integrity."

Actually thats the only time i'm not English,but that has to do with will carling,a wandering hand and the belief any girl would want to shag him

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Not much of a royalist as im english not german.

What makes me proud to be english ? i guess it would be our sole stand against the germans in 1940 prior to the americans coming into the war later. Also the Raf and battle of britain. Not only did we defend our island from the germans invading, we also, sent to troops to europe, taking the fight to them and being a part of liberating Europe from german oppression.

Today what mekes me proud to be english/british ...Nothing at all.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

I am proud to be British, and proud to live in The United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Island, but it is very hard to define.

The history countryside, language and people are certainly one aspect of it. The diverse and fascinating regional differences are another part of that.

I don't try to let political issues cloud that, politicians and policies come and go all the time.

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"Never British, always Welsh!

I know the Scots surrendered and were "invited" to join the Union, but not us!"

But Wales is part of the United Kingdom ?

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston


"Never British, always Welsh!

I know the Scots surrendered and were "invited" to join the Union, but not us!

But Wales is part of the United Kingdom ?"

Wales is a principality, hence why there is no red dragon on the Union Jack.

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By *pitfiresCouple
over a year ago

East

Sausages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA."

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

What makes me proud to be British?

The French

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party"

Operation Keelhaul (46/47) was dubious to say the least

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched the documentary on how we treat servicemen when they leave the Forces last night ....

A truly disgraceful way to treat people, just of the front line ...not something I`m in anyway proud of ...

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

ok keep it clean please.

Saying you don't agree with someone is allowed.

Attacking people because you don't agree with them isn't allowed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a proud Yorkshireman

Same here Yorkshire and proud. I Don't see my self as British or English although i guess i am but i have my allegiances with my county first."

That's so different from Bedfordshire - we just don't feel that same sense of county pride. Bedfordshire is quite a boring, droll place tbh.

As for being British, I don't feel WW2 has a lot to do with why I'm proud to be British. We've given the world so much more than just fighting a couple of wars. Too many things to list here but I think one of them deserves a mention - our sense of fair play. In competition I like to win but only if I win fairly - there is no sense in winning by deception as you haven't really tested yourself to the full if you haven't given it your all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have neither pride nor shame...it's just an accident of birth after all.

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"I'd be prouder if the British public had as much backbone as the French! R

XX

Is that the same French who surrendered during WWII?"

The french can afford to strike because the english pay for them to do so through europen subsiduaries each year for example we pay millions to to the french farmers with nothing in return why i do not know, have to ask your euro mp that.

If the English went on strike. Employers would simply bring in cheaper contract workers. I agree everyone has the right to strike/protest by law. Its just for some they can not afford to.

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party

Operation Keelhaul (46/47) was dubious to say the least"

NO if the americans had not entered into the war when they did we would all probably be walking around in jack boots today. We are even to this day still paying of our loan to america for the armoury weapons tanks used etc etc.

However the battle of britain involved no american involvement or loan the spitfire was an english design with a rolls royce engine.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

EU Subsidy rates for French farmers are no different than EU subsidy rates for British farmers, or for Italian farmers, or Irish farmers....

They are standard rates......doesn't make them right, but to assume the French earn more to leave a Hectacre of land fallow than a British farmer just isn't correct.

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"EU Subsidy rates for French farmers are no different than EU subsidy rates for British farmers, or for Italian farmers, or Irish farmers....

They are standard rates......doesn't make them right, but to assume the French earn more to leave a Hectacre of land fallow than a British farmer just isn't correct."

Any stats to prove that ?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"EU Subsidy rates for French farmers are no different than EU subsidy rates for British farmers, or for Italian farmers, or Irish farmers....

They are standard rates......doesn't make them right, but to assume the French earn more to leave a Hectacre of land fallow than a British farmer just isn't correct.

Any stats to prove that ? "

I think as you made the allegation that French farmers are paid more to keep land fallow then the onus is on you to prove the point.

The EU keeps land fallow to ensure that farmers do not change the use of the land involved so that in subsequent years it can revert to agricultural use if and when it is needed.

There are differing rates for 'Set-aside' land layover depending on the crop that was previously grown there.

In any case the 'Set-Aside' scheme has all but been scrapped now, as cereal production is badly needed now the EU has expanded......it is now far less common than it was in the 80's and 90's.

You need to take more notice of NFU data than UKIP data, which is often misleading to back up their call for EU withdrawal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what makes me proud to be british? ermmmmmm... pass

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By *andWnwcplCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

What makes me proud, two words

Full English

Sod ya cold ham and cheese or pastry, or pancakes with sausages.

as we always said when I was a chef, if you want to eat 3 good meals a day in england, eat breakfast 3 times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" .............

However the battle of britain involved no american involvement or loan the spitfire was an english design with a rolls royce engine."

Wasn't the aluminium for the Spitfire skin produced in the US and freighted across the Atlantic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what makes me proud to be british? ermmmmmm... pass"

Mabye living in Syria, Burma or North Korea might change yer perspective me ol fruit ...

No offence tis just a thought...

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By *he WabbitsCouple
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

Battling Grannies bashing street robbers, true guts still alive and well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can they take a joke in those places?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never say im British i always say in ENGLISH.

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By *he WabbitsCouple
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

Good point mate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can they take a joke in those places? "

Mea culpa...t`was wit..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

haha,,,,, what indeed makes me proud to be British is that stalwart bulldog spirit that stirs a person to complain and correct any individual who dares to make a mistakes however big or small ,,, relevant or trivial.....

I just received a private message from someone I've not yet seen post in forums ..... however this person has mailed me questioning the validity of a list of British inventions and inventors I copied and from Google and pasted in this thread someway-back nearer the beginning of it........

I love it.... And without even checking if this person was correct to take issue with the lists claim of who actually invented the Spitfire,,,, I just know this person will be right..... And it that which gets you right here in the heart,,,,,,,,, British and proud,,,, and proud to be British and let no man dare to question British attention to detail...... I feckin love it……… love it.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing......Scottish and only Scottish for us

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By *rankOfileMan
over a year ago

France


"What makes me proud to be British?

The French "

I wish I could say I was proud to be British......I used to be. No more. As I leave these shores to live in France.

Something about the French for me that stands out. They truely are proud to be French. Every town and Marie...will Fly the tricolor......We cant even agree what to call our flag in case it offends someone. let alone be proud to fly it

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

Winston's mum was American, so he wasn't really a true Brit.

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"EU Subsidy rates for French farmers are no different than EU subsidy rates for British farmers, or for Italian farmers, or Irish farmers....

They are standard rates......doesn't make them right, but to assume the French earn more to leave a Hectacre of land fallow than a British farmer just isn't correct.

Any stats to prove that ?

I think as you made the allegation that French farmers are paid more to keep land fallow then the onus is on you to prove the point.

The EU keeps land fallow to ensure that farmers do not change the use of the land involved so that in subsequent years it can revert to agricultural use if and when it is needed.

There are differing rates for 'Set-aside' land layover depending on the crop that was previously grown there.

In any case the 'Set-Aside' scheme has all but been scrapped now, as cereal production is badly needed now the EU has expanded......it is now far less common than it was in the 80's and 90's.

You need to take more notice of NFU data than UKIP data, which is often misleading to back up their call for EU withdrawal."

okay without stats its pretty clear to see. would you lend 100 punds to somebody on the understanding you get back a tenner.

The british pay much more than any other european country and get little in return, other than mass immigration.. Theres a lot of old boy etonian old boys somwhere stuck in a timewarp thinking were still an empire.

In such dire financial times surely every country and its politicians should sort there own house out as charity should begin at home.

Us on the other hand under cameron well he squeezes every penny he can out of us telling us theres no other way as a result of labours woeful economic mismangement of the country whilst simultaneousy tripling foreign aide which leaves us the taxpayer diggin further down to our knees for a spare bit of change. look at pakistan and the floods for example ...If they can afford nuclear weapons they can afford to sort out there own problems.

camerons response to donations to pakistan was well if we dont help them finanacially we could be turning moderate muslims into extremists ones ?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be totally honest.....

If there is one thing which would make me utterly proud to be from any nation of this world, it would be that’s countries individual rejection any notions they might have supporting a collective attitude of national superiority over individuals or groups of any ethnic or religious diversification regardless...!!!!

Welcome to planet Sox

yeah-yeah I know....,,,,, this is the real world.....

but lets face it.... we've tried doing it the other way.... and yeah,.... how good was that....... not!!!!

Pah....... Sox-Flounce... Sox-Flounce... Sox-Flounce.... lala-lala-la

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Proud to be a torie lol what more british can that be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What would make me proud of being British is that if every migrant to our country could, and would, learn and speak the English language.

What would make me as proud is that if every indigenous (take that to be white, if you must) kid born here could do likewise (i.e. know how to read, write and speak the English language properly).

Language is one of the main constraints.

The day that I see a young Asian girl walking hand in hand with her English boyfriend through the streets of Bradford, and nobody bats an eyelid, is the day I'll know it's truly really happened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been reading this thread with some interest for the last two days and to be honest I'm really struggling to think of something. By 'British & Proud' I tried to think of a quality we have as Brits that would make me puff my chest out if a non Brit mentioned it..Nothing really leapt into my mind. I realise this may say more about me than the British but it's kinda sad either way.

On top of that I have never described myself as British

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By *rankOfileMan
over a year ago

France


"I've been reading this thread with some interest for the last two days and to be honest I'm really struggling to think of something. By 'British & Proud' I tried to think of a quality we have as Brits that would make me puff my chest out if a non Brit mentioned it..Nothing really leapt into my mind. I realise this may say more about me than the British but

#it's kinda sad either way.

On top of that I have never described myself as British"

Sad to say but i agree with you. I think as Brits we live in the past. We were once a proud nation and had good reason to be.... The problem for me is we dont see that other nations have caught up and in many cases taken a lead.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"What would make me proud of being British is that if every migrant to our country could, and would, learn and speak the English language.

What would make me as proud is that if every indigenous (take that to be white, if you must) kid born here could do likewise (i.e. know how to read, write and speak the English language properly).

Language is one of the main constraints.

The day that I see a young Asian girl walking hand in hand with her English boyfriend through the streets of Bradford, and nobody bats an eyelid, is the day I'll know it's truly really happened.

"

Ever spent any time amongst the ex-pats in places like Spain, Italy or France?

I've got news for you....must Brits who move to live in countries that don't have English as their first language never bother to learn the language of the country they have moved to.

One rule for us Brits and another rule for 'Johnny Foreigner'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What would make me proud of being British is that if every migrant to our country could, and would, learn and speak the English language.

..............

"

There's a bit of a scam going on in some parts of Glasgow where someone needing to interact with a doctor/ dentist/ police/ courts/ etc pretends not to be unable to understand the goings on in English and can have an interpreter provided, on a not inconsiderable hourly rate, which is shared between them afterwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What would make me proud of being British is that if every migrant to our country could, and would, learn and speak the English language.

..............

There's a bit of a scam going on in some parts of Glasgow where someone needing to interact with a doctor/ dentist/ police/ courts/ etc pretends not to be unable to understand the goings on in English and can have an interpreter provided, on a not inconsiderable hourly rate, which is shared between them afterwards."

My brother is a copper in Norfolk. He told me if I ever want a career change then I should learn Portuguese or Russian. There's interpreters there spending 10 hours at a station whilst charging £120 an hour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What would make me proud of being British is that if every migrant to our country could, and would, learn and speak the English language.

What would make me as proud is that if every indigenous (take that to be white, if you must) kid born here could do likewise (i.e. know how to read, write and speak the English language properly).

Language is one of the main constraints.

The day that I see a young Asian girl walking hand in hand with her English boyfriend through the streets of Bradford, and nobody bats an eyelid, is the day I'll know it's truly really happened.

Ever spent any time amongst the ex-pats in places like Spain, Italy or France?

I've got news for you....must Brits who move to live in countries that don't have English as their first language never bother to learn the language of the country they have moved to.

One rule for us Brits and another rule for 'Johnny Foreigner'?"

That's because of the predominance of English as a universal means of communication.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What would make me proud of being British is that if every migrant to our country could, and would, learn and speak the English language.

..............

There's a bit of a scam going on in some parts of Glasgow where someone needing to interact with a doctor/ dentist/ police/ courts/ etc pretends not to be unable to understand the goings on in English and can have an interpreter provided, on a not inconsiderable hourly rate, which is shared between them afterwards.

My brother is a copper in Norfolk. He told me if I ever want a career change then I should learn Portuguese or Russian. There's interpreters there spending 10 hours at a station whilst charging £120 an hour"

hahahahahaha...

Its said that lifes a comedy fer those that think...and..

A tradegy fer those that feel ....

Thats really fucking absurd .....£120 an hour ......ponders a career change!! ...

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Reading this back I think our natural positivity is our finest asset.

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"I've been reading this thread with some interest for the last two days and to be honest I'm really struggling to think of something. By 'British & Proud' I tried to think of a quality we have as Brits that would make me puff my chest out if a non Brit mentioned it..Nothing really leapt into my mind. I realise this may say more about me than the British but

#it's kinda sad either way.

On top of that I have never described myself as British

Sad to say but i agree with you. I think as Brits we live in the past. We were once a proud nation and had good reason to be.... The problem for me is we dont see that other nations have caught up and in many cases taken a lead. "

Its hard today to be proud to be english when our political leaders dictate that hoisting a george cross flag from your house such as during the last world cup could be _iewed as racist, my response to the pc pees fo and go call the cops... Every other home nation has a bank holiday on there respective days except us English. We have been made to feel it is a crime to be English.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party

Operation Keelhaul (46/47) was dubious to say the least"

I Think you will find the war ended in 45 lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party

Operation Keelhaul (46/47) was dubious to say the least

I Think you will find the war ended in 45 lol"

Remembrance Day.....

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"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party

Operation Keelhaul (46/47) was dubious to say the least

I Think you will find the war ended in 45 lol"

Your right it did. but the repatriation programme that churchill agreed to at Yalta didn't really start until 46.

But then churchill sold the white russians and cossacks down the river.

his decision to keep the anti soviets to use at a later date ensured that a lot of brits and americans spent sometime in the gulags too

not really cricket but then he was half american

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over a year ago

what makes me proud to be british instead of american like my aunts kids

Irony - Free Healthcare - Benny Hill - The Queen - Vegetables - Thin People - Warm Beer - Humility - That Bloke off 'House' - Bendy Roads - Lingering Post Imperial Despair

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


" .............

However the battle of britain involved no american involvement or loan the spitfire was an english design with a rolls royce engine.

Wasn't the aluminium for the Spitfire skin produced in the US and freighted across the Atlantic?"

you know something im happy to say ive no idea whether the _pitfires skin was produced in the usa ....does it really matter whether it was or it was not? if you wanna go look it up and get back to us on that ill take back my opinion on the only event that ever made me proud if it makes u happy m8

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over a year ago


"I was under the impression that the fighting men and women of our Army, Navy and Air Force saved our bacon?

There's a valid debate to be had about whether we'd have won without the intervention of the USA.

or the russians but as a single person Sir W. C. Gavananised Britain against Hitler While making decisions that kept the U.S.A.behind us until they entered the war

A TRUE BRIT and GREAT MAN

No matter his political party

Operation Keelhaul (46/47) was dubious to say the least

I Think you will find the war ended in 45 lol"

its one of the things that really pisses me off.

Roosevelt,Truman,Stalin,Churchill

all war criminals

all architects of the 'hidden holocaust'

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

I am proud to be british every day I go into work and I see my soldiers.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

That's a very good point....our armed forces are a very good reason to be proud to be British.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"That's a very good point....our armed forces are a very good reason to be proud to be British."
Thats the best reason ever!

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over a year ago


"That's a very good point....our armed forces are a very good reason to be proud to be British.Thats the best reason ever! "

If they're so important to us, and I agree they are, why are we scrapping Harriers and Nimrods, mothballing or selling off aircraft carriers and closing RAF bases in Scotland?

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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"That's a very good point....our armed forces are a very good reason to be proud to be British.Thats the best reason ever!

If they're so important to us, and I agree they are, why are we scrapping Harriers and Nimrods, mothballing or selling off aircraft carriers and closing RAF bases in Scotland?"

Just to add and why are our troops so poorly equipped they have to beg for kit from yanks and food parcels from there families. Its also reassuring to know our waters our now protected by the french due to lack of any air craft carriers, Should any invading force head our way i wouldnt bet against them planning there attack on the day of the french navy finding something to strike over.

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over a year ago

Just living in england makes me proud xxx

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over a year ago


"That's a very good point....our armed forces are a very good reason to be proud to be British.Thats the best reason ever!

If they're so important to us, and I agree they are, why are we scrapping Harriers and Nimrods, mothballing or selling off aircraft carriers and closing RAF bases in Scotland?

Just to add and why are our troops so poorly equipped they have to beg for kit from yanks and food parcels from there families. Its also reassuring to know our waters our now protected by the french due to lack of any air craft carriers, Should any invading force head our way i wouldnt bet against them planning there attack on the day of the french navy finding something to strike over."

According to The Torygraph "A quarter of RAF trainee pilots are to be sacked in a cost-cutting cull that threatens to leave the Armed Forces short of airmen"

"Up to 100 student pilots will be told the news on Tuesday with some of them only a few hours away from becoming fully qualified to fly fighters, helicopters and transport aircraft.

The cuts will mean the waste of an estimated £300million already paid for training the pilots, plus the cost of redundancies. The training of RAF pilots can cost up to £4million a man.

There are fears that the sackings will lead to a shortage of helicopter and transport pilots on the front line in Afghanistan. "

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