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"seconded. the minute we choose cost over pride, we have lost all that we are fighting for. a parade is the very least these brave soldiers deserve for thier ultimate sacrifice. " Quite agree, well said. | |||
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"The bodies come into RAF Lyneham in Wiltshire not Brize Norton don't they? Thats why they go through Wooton Basset" sorry, they're suggesting landing them in brize....which is straight onto a motorway. the road that runs through wb is affectionately known as the hero's mile and there is a petition in place to have it officially named that | |||
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"The bodies come into RAF Lyneham in Wiltshire not Brize Norton don't they? Thats why they go through Wooton Basset sorry, they're suggesting landing them in brize....which is straight onto a motorway. the road that runs through wb is affectionately known as the hero's mile and there is a petition in place to have it officially named that" Ah right, thats probably because Lyneham is closing in 2012. | |||
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"The bodies come into RAF Lyneham in Wiltshire not Brize Norton don't they? Thats why they go through Wooton Basset sorry, they're suggesting landing them in brize....which is straight onto a motorway. the road that runs through wb is affectionately known as the hero's mile and there is a petition in place to have it officially named that Ah right, thats probably because Lyneham is closing in 2012." i understood that to be a proposal? | |||
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" sorry, they're suggesting landing them in brize....which is straight onto a motorway. " Brize is at least 10 miles from both the M4 and M40, and 1 mile from Carterton. | |||
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"this country voted this lot in all they care about is money they dont care who they hurt the whole country should make a stand and support everyone effected the poor soldiers died for us fighting shouldnt we show them our support by making a stand for them this is the least we could do " To be fair, the decision about Lyneham's closure was made years and years ago. It's not something that's only happened since the current government came into power. | |||
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" sorry, they're suggesting landing them in brize....which is straight onto a motorway. Brize is at least 10 miles from both the M4 and M40, and 1 mile from Carterton." I think it's nearer 20 miles to get to either motorway... I'm probably slap bang in the middle of Brize and the M4. | |||
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"this country voted this lot in all they care about is money they dont care who they hurt the whole country should make a stand and support everyone effected the poor soldiers died for us fighting shouldnt we show them our support by making a stand for them this is the least we could do absolutely true ,we should get rid of this lot sharpish . To be fair, the decision about Lyneham's closure was made years and years ago. It's not something that's only happened since the current government came into power." | |||
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"absolutely true ,we should get rid of this lot sharpish" I'm confused. It was Bob Ainsworth who has effectively closed down Lyneham. He was a Labour minister. We already got rid of that lot. As SDM and I have pointed out, Brize Norton is further away from a motorway than Lyneham is, so the chances of there not being an equivalent show of respect once the repatriation starts happening at Brize is slim. | |||
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"wooton basset has become a symbol of a nations grief and it should be allowed to continue..where ever they bring those brave soldiers home, they should always go through wooton basset..." Nation's grief my arse. Most of couldn't name five dead soldiers without googling it. | |||
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"wooton basset has become a symbol of a nations grief and it should be allowed to continue..where ever they bring those brave soldiers home, they should always go through wooton basset..." Ironically, though, the coffins only pass through Wootton Bassett because the repatriation was moved from Brize to Lyneham due to construction work happening at BZN (and some rumours about the efficiency of the Oxfordshire coroners). | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.." Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.." Nope, childish was the word that sprang to my mind reading your post too. It seems you're allowed your view but anyone who has a different viewpoint is a... what was your word... ah, yes, fuck wit. THAT'S childish. | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. " I watched a very interesting programme last night called 'The War You Dont See' - and if that programme is correct, we should NOT be in Afghanistan at all. A 2000lb laser guided bomb saw the heat signatures of 100+ people in a building and zeroed in on it, killing most inside... who were women, children and babies. The bodies left intact were buried in their own graves but the bits and pieces of some 50 souls were put in a mass grave because they couldn't identify them. Tiny hands and feet, heads without bodies. Some Taliban huh? | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. " wasnt referring to the op at all but to some one else,as you,d have noticed if you read it properly.. as for childish,who gives a fuck..my choice. | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. I watched a very interesting programme last night called 'The War You Dont See' - and if that programme is correct, we should NOT be in Afghanistan at all. A 2000lb laser guided bomb saw the heat signatures of 100+ people in a building and zeroed in on it, killing most inside... who were women, children and babies. The bodies left intact were buried in their own graves but the bits and pieces of some 50 souls were put in a mass grave because they couldn't identify them. Tiny hands and feet, heads without bodies. Some Taliban huh?" War is never pretty no matter how you look at it. Should we be there? Well probably yes but there is also justification for not being their too. Civilian casulties will happen, never nice at all. Often intelegence is wrong, often insergents hide within the civilian population to try and create things like that. The question we have to ask our selves is "would we rather ground troops go in with more British/coalition casualties and more bodies coming home? Yes civilians die which isn't good at all. However i am willing to bet more die around the world through malnutrition and preventable illnesses that we in the west could prevent by giving more aid. | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. wasnt referring to the op at all but to some one else,as you,d have noticed if you read it properly.. as for childish,who gives a fuck..my choice." And once again you prove you are immature and childish. We all have the right to an opinion and mine is that your childish and immature and i am sure I am not on my own. | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. wasnt referring to the op at all but to some one else,as you,d have noticed if you read it properly.. as for childish,who gives a fuck..my choice. And once again you prove you are immature and childish. We all have the right to an opinion and mine is that your childish and immature and i am sure I am not on my own." yes you are and i respect your opinion ..if your goal is to say things so others agree with you, or play teacher then carry on..my opinion is your a busy body who should mind his own business | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. wasnt referring to the op at all but to some one else,as you,d have noticed if you read it properly.. as for childish,who gives a fuck..my choice. And once again you prove you are immature and childish. We all have the right to an opinion and mine is that your childish and immature and i am sure I am not on my own. yes you are and i respect your opinion ..if your goal is to say things so others agree with you, or play teacher then carry on..my opinion is your a busy body who should mind his own business" Immature attitude once again! I could become personal and trade insults asking you if you have small bloke syndrome. So seeing as its late ill drop down a bit to your level and ask you! Shortie is your lack of height making you pretend to be the tough guy? Because it isn't working at all and your lack of intellect is really as apparent as your childish side. That good enough for you then? | |||
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"what you on about childish...its not childish its out right anger on my part..yes its emotive and disrespect should be considered for those being posted about,as well as members imho.. Typeing "arse hole you really are" isn't what adults do, its playground mentality so think on. As for showing disrespect well i don't think the OP did. Many involved with the armed forces view the events as propaganda at times and many would prefer to grieve in private. wasnt referring to the op at all but to some one else,as you,d have noticed if you read it properly.. as for childish,who gives a fuck..my choice. And once again you prove you are immature and childish. We all have the right to an opinion and mine is that your childish and immature and i am sure I am not on my own. yes you are and i respect your opinion ..if your goal is to say things so others agree with you, or play teacher then carry on..my opinion is your a busy body who should mind his own business Immature attitude once again! I could become personal and trade insults asking you if you have small bloke syndrome. So seeing as its late ill drop down a bit to your level and ask you! Shortie is your lack of height making you pretend to be the tough guy? Because it isn't working at all and your lack of intellect is really as apparent as your childish side. That good enough for you then?" oh dear,you have let your self down havnt you?..you called me childish and immature..i called you a busy body..niether a serious insult im sure you,ll agree.looks like you can give but not take doesnt it,as you,ve actually stooped to personal insults..does your height make you feel big? superior in some way..as to my intellect, you have no idea bar a few ramblings on here,and i honestly dont care enough to sit with a dictionary.. climb down off that huge horse you on and get a life.. | |||
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"Isnt arsehole and fuckwit personal remarks, at least this is entertaining at this time in the morning " they are indeed,and to be honest i didnt realise the "rules" in the forums regarding such things.. | |||
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"War is never pretty no matter how you look at it. Should we be there? Well probably yes but there is also justification for not being their too. Civilian casulties will happen, never nice at all. Often intelegence is wrong, often insergents hide within the civilian population to try and create things like that. The question we have to ask our selves is "would we rather ground troops go in with more British/coalition casualties and more bodies coming home? Yes civilians die which isn't good at all. However i am willing to bet more die around the world through malnutrition and preventable illnesses that we in the west could prevent by giving more aid." The programme I watched gave approximate civilian casualty figures for WW1, which was 10%, WW2 was 50%, Vietnam was 70% but in Afghanistan the figures are 90%... and from the footage that was shown the Americans were firing indiscriminately at groups of people on the ground using comments such as, "waste those motherfuckers, man". There is a lot of things wrong about this 'war' and we are winning no hearts and minds over there. Russia couldn't take Afghanistan and they lost 10,000 troups trying to. If we stay there we'll lose the same amount, and achieve nothing. | |||
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