FabSwingers.com forum: Report user

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just reported something on a profile and noticed it has a new "arranged a meet but didn't turn up" reason for report.

Do you think this could be abused?

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Yes.

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

Yeah I'm not sure that one is a good idea actually.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything can be abused, i am surprised admin take notice of what people do away from the site. What do they intend to use it for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oooh big mistake there ...almost the same as naming and shaming which is not allowed!! whats to stop someone being pissed of at someone else and hitting that button ... not clever

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Anything can be abused, i am surprised admin take notice of what people do away from the site. What do they intend to use it for?"

They don't. If a report is going to be acted on by Admin they have to have some proof.

Here is an explanation from Admin from another thread on how they deal with reports.

******Just a quick note. If people report others and we can verify that they have broken site rules, we always take action (either a first and final warning, partially suspended account, fully suspended, mixture of the above).

Every single report sent via the REPORT link is reviewed. Clearly it's not in our interests to have people on here who are bad for the site. Equally we need to verify what has been reported and be fair to those who have been reported.

Admin ******

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Was thinking the same, you could say no to a meet and could get reported for it just out of badness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oooh big mistake there ...almost the same as naming and shaming which is not allowed!! whats to stop someone being pissed of at someone else and hitting that button ... not clever

Well hopefully admin will look to see if there has been PM's between both party's before taking action. But then is admin looking at personal messages to see if meets have been planed an invasion of privacy?

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Oooerrrr this is a biggie

Normally admin would start a thread and ask for feedback about a change like this

I know that they would look at pattterns of behaviour from certain people before taking any action,but im still not sure about it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Anything can be abused, i am surprised admin take notice of what people do away from the site. What do they intend to use it for?

They don't. If a report is going to be acted on by Admin they have to have some proof.

Here is an explanation from Admin from another thread on how they deal with reports.

Admin ******"

How can you prove someone hasn't turned up for a meet though? Their word against yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oooerrrr this is a biggie

Normally admin would start a thread and ask for feedback about a change like this

I know that they would look at pattterns of behaviour from certain people before taking any action,but im still not sure about it

Thats fine until one party ie a woman made an excuse to leave a meet without playing and the guy reports her. I think its a bad move by admin unless they are going to ignore information sent and then why have it.

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

does beg the question as to how Admin will police this new feature

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anything can be abused, i am surprised admin take notice of what people do away from the site. What do they intend to use it for?

They don't. If a report is going to be acted on by Admin they have to have some proof.

Here is an explanation from Admin from another thread on how they deal with reports.

Admin ******

How can you prove someone hasn't turned up for a meet though? Their word against yours."

Hmm think this isn't a good idea - lets say a party hates you and reports you. It's their word against yours, no proof that there was to be a meet if all arrangements are made either over phone or MSN or something else.. What if you go to a meet and then it doesn't click? Is that then a "not turning up"... sneeks back to my corner and is quiet H.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"Oooerrrr this is a biggie

Normally admin would start a thread and ask for feedback about a change like this

I know that they would look at pattterns of behaviour from certain people before taking any action,but im still not sure about it

I would think its more along the lines that a certain user constantly makes arrangements with people and then does'nt turn up

If admin have 10 reports for a joe bloggs never turning up for a meet then maybe he should'nt be on the site as hes bad for it

I dunno

I do know that people are constantly moaning about people not turning up with no explanation and I suposse admin are trying to address a situation that upsets the majority of people on here

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"Oooerrrr this is a biggie

Normally admin would start a thread and ask for feedback about a change like this

I know that they would look at pattterns of behaviour from certain people before taking any action,but im still not sure about it

I was thinking more about clingy women reporting guys because they didn't come back for seconds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe this is to monitor the level of frequency of the same individuals wasting people's time. Private messages are exactly that and should not be viewed by another other than the sender and the recipient. On the whole, anything that makes the site better for it's genuine users has to be a good thing and maybe some of the 'boo-boys and girls' would be better to remember that the next time their time is wasted by a no show. I suspect they'll be straight on here to hit that old 'Report' button.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Admin's sure gonna be busy bee's

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I do know that without any evidence then admin are unable to act on anything,so if you are making all your arrangements over msn or phone then there really is'nt much that can be done

But yes I agree that they will be busy bees as there are always going to be people that will abuse the system

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I do know that people are constantly moaning about people not turning up with no explanation and I suposse admin are trying to address a situation that upsets the majority of people on here"

Is it the majority though?

Ask how many real timewasters are encountered by those who have been around a while and know what they are doing...... not many.

It has been suggested in many threads that it is more likely the fault of a rushed and hurried selection process.

There are plenty who get as far as naming a day they are free and think that is a done deal.

How many threads have their been about timewasters.... just for it to turn out that someone had stopped messaging before making any firm arrangements?

How many profiles after only being on the site for a few days (if not hours) have lines about timewasters on their profile? I saw one profile which was a matter of hours old and it had the line "sick of all these timewasters on here".

Is there really such a big problem or does all the talk about it make it SEEM like there is a big problem?

I feel it is more the case of another downward turn in an amplification spiral.

A few moan about a problem…. people read there is a problem and believe it and join in with complaining…. action is taken y the powers that be to address the perceived problem…. people see action was needed and so it reinforces their belief there MUST be a BIG problem (even though they may have never or rarely encountered it)

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Most of my meets are arranged by phone and not messages, so I dont know how it can be policed by Admin.

Really really not sure about this one

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I do know that people are constantly moaning about people not turning up with no explanation and I suposse admin are trying to address a situation that upsets the majority of people on here

Is it the majority though?

Ask how many real timewasters are encountered by those who have been around a while and know what they are doing...... not many.

It has been suggested in many threads that it is more likely the fault of a rushed and hurried selection process.

There are plenty who get as far as naming a day they are free and think that is a done deal.

How many threads have their been about timewasters.... just for it to turn out that someone had stopped messaging before making any firm arrangements?

Is there really such a big problem or does all the talk about it make it SEEM like there is a big problem?

I feel it is more the case of another downward turn in an amplification spiral.

I agree with you Polo,especially about the brand new profiles,We very rarely have any problems but we don't ever expect every contact to lead to a meet and we're not naive about how things work,there must be some problem though for admin to put this option up to try and address it

We see the threads on here but we don't see how many complaints admin must get from users via the contact button or from reporting the profile itself

It may not work,the gold supporter 24 response option did'nt last long because of people abusing it so this may well turn out the same way

Id like to see what admin have to say about it though

SJ and Mark!!!!! come in here we need you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You don't see doormen turning away teetoallers from pubs simply because they are wasting the landlord's time by having no intention to drink do you. This site is free to use and with that comes the inevitability that some people will register out of pure curiosity. They will then start to use the account and ALL of it's features, such as sending someone a private message just to see what the process of arranging a meet involves. They'll see it right through to actually arranging a meet and then simply don't turn up (cos it's no big loss is it and they can easily get another account here)

That's the trade off we all face for keeping this site free.

A pretty good filter to use when arranging meets is to only arrange to meet those who are Site Supporter members.

Ok, it isn't failsafe but it's a darn sight better than the shot in the dark, hit and hope method some people employ.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"You don't see doormen turning away teetoallers from pubs simply because they are wasting the landlord's time by having no intention to drink do you. This site is free to use and with that comes the inevitability that some people will register out of pure curiosity. They will then start to use the account and ALL of it's features, such as sending someone a private message just to see what the process of arranging a meet involves. They'll see it right through to actually arranging a meet and then simply don't turn up (cos it's no big loss is it and they can easily get another account here)

That's the trade off we all face for keeping this site free.

A pretty good filter to use when arranging meets is to only arrange to meet those who are Site Supporter members.

Ok, it isn't failsafe but it's a darn sight better than the shot in the dark, hit and hope method some people employ."

I've missed your wisdom while I have been away Wishy, but enlighten me....what is the connection between being a site supporter and being more likely to turn up for meets?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bad idea in my opinion too.....I have had alsorts of abuse sent to me for just saying a polite "No thank you" to folk on here....but a report button to get revenge, big no, no!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've missed your wisdom while I have been away Wishy, but enlighten me....what is the connection between being a site supporter and being more likely to turn up for meets?"

They're more likely to be genuine swingers - in our experience anyway.

I'm just giving ideas on how to cout down the chances of being messed about, I did say it wasn't a failsafe option.

We never meet someone we can't see as verified or if they aren't a site supporter and we haven't been messed around yet.

But then we're not given to arranging meets at a moment's notice either and we usually chat for a good few weeks leading up to it to make sure that a) we actually do fancy the guy/couple, b) we get on with him/them ie like the way they converse with us, and c) are reliable.

We'll even look closely at their verifications and see if any of those are verified and/or site supporters.

We do all we can to make sure that the person we're talking to is the type of person we want to meet and is genuine. That's all I was trying to convey.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

As I see it, Admin have a set of rules (no naming and shaming, no minors, no singles posings as couples etc). The rules are published, and if a profile breaks the rules there is a mechanism for reporting it and Admin will then investigate and take the necessary action.

But for this there are no 'rules', therefore one of the most subjective issues on the site is, as I see it, open to interpretation and likely abuse.

As HPC says, I guess there must be a widespread problem if Admin have taken these steps. But like others have said, people with better 'vetting' skills seem to have fewer problems.....

So my questions would be:

What are the 'rules'?

I assume Admin can see all PMs....do they keep them on file for a period of time so that they are available to look into claims made, or do I need to keep PMs on the account forever just in case someone reports me?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

it was beginning to be discussed in this thread here...

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/37010

I am not a fan of the idea... give people a chance to be vendictive....

if it was being used for the big social meets and people constantly put there names down and no-show without a call then I am more than happy for in effect "lists" to be kept.....

but for one on one meets this is going to get into the rhelms of "he said she said" and that is going to cause admin a lot more hassle than I bet they imagine

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Admin can look at peoples pms if a report has been made about a user,its how they deal with abusive pms,they look at both sides of the story to make a fair judgement

You don't have to save them just incase you get reported

As a mod ive had a few reports myself,I don't save all the mail I get,I can barely cope with with the normal mail,let alone the mod stuff,Id have a very untidy desk if I worked in an office

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Thats what I was thinking

So now Ill just have to confirm all phone calls in writing....jeeez its just like being at work

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"Thats what I was thinking

So now Ill just have to confirm all phone calls in writing....jeeez its just like being at work

Or you could just carry on as you have been doing since the day you joined and not worry about it and have fun

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Thats what I was thinking

So now Ill just have to confirm all phone calls in writing....jeeez its just like being at work

Or you could just carry on as you have been doing since the day you joined and not worry about it and have fun

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Wheres the "he has a bigger cock than me" or "shes got nicer tits than me" options then????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as a couple arranging to meet another couple through fab account then on way to meet receiving a txt to say the other woman has a migrane and wouldnt be able to make it but the bloke is still up for it .... does this mean cancelling the meet and saying no thanks turns into a report as a "NO SHOW" cause afterall when admin look at the mail between the couples a meet has been arranged!!!

its then their word against yours that you spoke on the fone or txt ....

it is not a good idea, there are unfortunately alot of vindictive ppl on this site.

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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago

east cheshire

Ooooh I love new buttons to play with, you have all been reported using a selection of reasons and Im reporting myself too

....hang on can we do that?...Im going to try

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I still think that it will be patterns of behaviour from the same individuals that will be the cause for concern and not one offs that are inevitable on occasions

Im not worried,Ive had to cancel or rearrange meets in the past and im still not worried about it if I have to do the same in the future as I know that these things happen and so do admin

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Thats what I was thinking

So now Ill just have to confirm all phone calls in writing....jeeez its just like being at work

Or you could just carry on as you have been doing since the day you joined and not worry about it and have fun

Nah Ill get the secretary onto it. He doesnt have enough work to do anyways...

Dear Sir and/or Madam (ooooer)

Further to our phone calls this week I write to confirm details of our meeting scheduled for 9.30pm on Saturday 9th October. The meeting will take place under the clock at the Bus Station.

As we agreed, in preparation for the meeting, you will bring a snorkel and an oxygen tank, and I will not be wearing knickers.

I hope this accurately summarises our recent discussions and I look forward to finalising all outstanding issues at the meeting.

MWAH xxxx

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By *ertnbeckyCouple
over a year ago

oldham

how far does it go for instance i blocked a cpl who winked us they didnt do any wrong but states on their profile both married to other people which we find to be dishonest and not for us are we wrong can we be banned if reported?opens all sorts of cans of worms to me

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I do hope admin read this as I have a question......

I do understand the patterns of behaviour thing.... though on a free to join site that is still open to abuse if someone really wanted to.

But.... let's assume there are two seperate people and shall we say they are female profiles (just to make a change from picking on the fellas)

Girlie #1....is reported 6 times in as many weeks.

Girlie #2....is reported 6 times in as many weeks.

Girlie #1... has arranged 6 meets and bailed on all of them without warning.

Girlie #2... has arranged 19 meets. Turned up for 16 of them, had to cancel 3 at short notice because of genuine reasons (child care, overtime at work, child not feeling well, etc) but 2 of the guys got the hump and reported her. She hadn't finalised a time and place to meet with the another 5 guys so didn't think to bother cancelling. This results in another 2 reports from mardy arsed knobheads who though saying they were free on Sunday was enough to secure their sex session and expected to be able to leave the messaging for a few days and just send her one line on Sunday morning to ask "what time do you want me". The 3rd guy who had stopped messaging but thought he had a meet being held for him on the Sunday later sees she has verified KingCock694U on the very day he thought was his turn .... so hits the report button because all he got was a "sorry, you stopped messaging so I thought you had lost interest". One guy hits the report button because he is one of the 150 guys she sent a 'no thanks'. And there is still another guy with his finger hovering over the report button because after 3 weeks of exchanging mail and talking about meeting she changed her mind.... because he kept asking if she would do anal with him.

How will admin tell the difference between the two girlies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of them will have a cock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many would report someone for not showing up for a meet???????

Yea, its annoying when that happens but bloody el would hardly report someone for it!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

LMFAO!

I know one thing,I would'nt want to be the poor admin bod trying to deal with all of this

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"How many would report someone for not showing up for a meet???????

Yea, its annoying when that happens but bloody el would hardly report someone for it!!!!!!"
bet they do though, some one told me they were going to report me cause i dont meet alone!!!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I applaud Admin for attempting to address the issue but don't envy their trying to sort out the genuine gripes from the reports they will get in from the rejected and bitter types.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Anything can be abused, i am surprised admin take notice of what people do away from the site. What do they intend to use it for?

They don't. If a report is going to be acted on by Admin they have to have some proof.

Here is an explanation from Admin from another thread on how they deal with reports.

Admin ******

How can you prove someone hasn't turned up for a meet though? Their word against yours."

I suppose only if someone admitted to it?

I don't know, I am guessing like everyone else....but I am guessing whatever way it is dealt with that it will be hard to police.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"One of them will have a cock. "

lmao

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

As an aside to all of this which is a worry in itself, I didn't realise that Admin can read our private messages!

So not only can we be reported now by someone we may have pissed off cos we wouldn't meet, we can even have our PRIVATE mail read to liven up a boring, rainy afternoon!

Totally out of order and I would be interested to find if it is in fact legal, not having made it clear to anyone who wants to join the site. One thing is for sure, I won't be using any of the mail system on this site again for chatting to people about wants and desires... Off to change profile!

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)

I see admin being VERRRRRRRRRRRY busy here

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Have I missed something regarding this no-show report button, I mean where have the rules been posted? Seems everyone is assuming that some action will be taken?

Maybe its just collecting data/stats? Maybe reporting a no-show does nothing more than that?

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

I can see us being reported by the 8+ guys I've sent "stop being an idiot and learn to read" messages to and then blocked.

This is clearly open to abuse and I'm suprised that admin have even wasted their time thinking about it.

Or can I report every single person I have on my block list for either being married, and idiot, too far away, too young, too old, bi, ugly, fricking ugly, who didn't attach a picture and who has refused to give us a phone number?............. because in our eyes, they could be time wasters!!!

And could I report those that I don't like purely because I think that they shouldn't be on here because they are 'in my opinion', complete twats?

This is sooooooo open to abuse it's very scarey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can see us being reported by the 8+ guys I've sent "stop being an idiot and learn to read" messages to and then blocked.

This is clearly open to abuse and I'm suprised that admin have even wasted their time thinking about it.

And could I report those that I don't like purely because I think that they shouldn't be on here because they are 'in my opinion', complete twats?

This is sooooooo open to abuse it's very scarey."

Can you swing with oneself?

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"I can see us being reported by the 8+ guys I've sent "stop being an idiot and learn to read" messages to and then blocked.

This is clearly open to abuse and I'm suprised that admin have even wasted their time thinking about it.

And could I report those that I don't like purely because I think that they shouldn't be on here because they are 'in my opinion', complete twats?

This is sooooooo open to abuse it's very scarey.

Can you swing with oneself?

I might have to....... my block list is soooo large it's scarey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do know that people are constantly moaning about people not turning up with no explanation and I suposse admin are trying to address a situation that upsets the majority of people on here

Is it the majority though?

HE WHO SHOUTS LOUDEST SHOUTS LOUDEST

Ask how many real timewasters are encountered by those who have been around a while and know what they are doing...... not many.

It has been suggested in many threads that it is more likely the fault of a rushed and hurried selection process.

There are plenty who get as far as naming a day they are free and think that is a done deal.

How many threads have their been about timewasters.... just for it to turn out that someone had stopped messaging before making any firm arrangements?

Is there really such a big problem or does all the talk about it make it SEEM like there is a big problem?

I feel it is more the case of another downward turn in an amplification spiral.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thats what I was thinking

So now Ill just have to confirm all phone calls in writing....jeeez its just like being at work

Or you could just carry on as you have been doing since the day you joined and not worry about it and have fun

Wheres the "he has a bigger cock than me" or "shes got nicer tits than me" options then????

sorry you are not SHOUTING LOUD ENOUGH. Isn't "loud" a strange word?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

can you report people for having naff hairstyles?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soon there will be so many DON'Ts to conider that people will just STOP logging in.

Never mind nanny state it's going to be a nanny site and a heavily policed one.

I blame the moaners not admin.

Why don't people learn to look after themselves and shoulder lifes let downs. OR ......

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