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"its not the footy that caused the deaths its the country " I appreciate that but they are all working on buildings for the World Cup..... | |||
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"Where was this reported?" Was on the radio this morning and lots on the web x | |||
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"its not the footy that caused the deaths its the country " ahhh but would they have died if it wasn't for the world cup being held there?? | |||
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"I'd wager all the FIFA selectors are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of a re-bid. Another round of bribes to come" lol that's another thing, heard them reading out who had won the bid and Qatar started cheering before they even said their name! | |||
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"its not the footy that caused the deaths its the country I appreciate that but they are all working on buildings for the World Cup....." well if they not pay 3mill in bribes may they could get some health and safety | |||
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"Where was this reported?" those figures are from 2012. Since then they are told to take shade when its to hot to work however its catch 22 because if they dont work they dont get paid. It was on jeremy vine radio 2 show today i love sport however it sickens me to think all these people are dying in the name of sport. They havent even built the host city for the final yet nevermind the stadium | |||
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"Migrant workers are no more than slaves in the Middle East " Middle East? What's that got to do with Brazilian migrants? | |||
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"Migrant workers are no more than slaves in the Middle East Middle East? What's that got to do with Brazilian migrants? " Qatar is in the middle east | |||
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"Migrant workers are no more than slaves in the Middle East Middle East? What's that got to do with Brazilian migrants? " talking about Qatar!! | |||
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"Migrant workers are no more than slaves in the Middle East Middle East? What's that got to do with Brazilian migrants? " its on about qatar | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x " you may find that its not FIFA that that employ them poor souls but the Qatar government who bribed & lied to get this event so don't blame football blame the Lying Cheating bastards who erm "won" the World Cup | |||
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"Where was this reported? those figures are from 2012. Since then they are told to take shade when its to hot to work however its catch 22 because if they dont work they dont get paid. It was on jeremy vine radio 2 show today i love sport however it sickens me to think all these people are dying in the name of sport. They havent even built the host city for the final yet nevermind the stadium " That's true, but these changes were only brought about by extreme pressure from outside agencies. Also, bearing in mind the temperatures regularly reach over 100 degrees, they stand no chance. | |||
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"Migrant workers are no more than slaves in the Middle East Middle East? What's that got to do with Brazilian migrants? its on about qatar " Lol oh right. Yeah I forgot about that. One world cup at a time. | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x you may find that its not FIFA that that employ them poor souls but the Qatar government who bribed & lied to get this event so don't blame football blame the Lying Cheating bastards who erm "won" the World Cup " 7 The whole point is that if they were not building these buildings for the World Cup then they 'may' not have died?? | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x " The problem of migrant workers dying in Qatar is well documented long before they even won (cough) the bid to host the World Cup.... in fact it was raised as one of the objections as to why they shouldn't get it. Migrant workers make up over 90% of the population in Qatar - around 1.5 million of them building new cities for the super rich. The body count for building the stadiums will likely be a fraction of the overall deaths of the migrant construction workers. | |||
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"Where was this reported? those figures are from 2012. Since then they are told to take shade when its to hot to work however its catch 22 because if they dont work they dont get paid. It was on jeremy vine radio 2 show today i love sport however it sickens me to think all these people are dying in the name of sport. They havent even built the host city for the final yet nevermind the stadium That's true, but these changes were only brought about by extreme pressure from outside agencies. Also, bearing in mind the temperatures regularly reach over 100 degrees, they stand no chance. " i know its shameful the highest recorded temperture in the shade was recorded there last week at 52 deg celsuis it beggars belief that anyone can survive in that never mind working your roe out | |||
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"I'm wondering how players will cope. What will the temperatures be during the games?" they have been talking about that too! I have an image of brits abroad, badly suntanned and flaking out all over the pitch! They will have to do some serious climate training before that! | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x The problem of migrant workers dying in Qatar is well documented long before they even won (cough) the bid to host the World Cup.... in fact it was raised as one of the objections as to why they shouldn't get it. Migrant workers make up over 90% of the population in Qatar - around 1.5 million of them building new cities for the super rich. The body count for building the stadiums will likely be a fraction of the overall deaths of the migrant construction workers." I appreciate that having read a bit more about it, but the fact that people are dying for overpaid footballers etc to run around a pitch doesn't sit well. x | |||
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"Just read the guardian report on this and it sounds like a lot of the buildings would be built regardless of weather they are to stage a world cup or not." thats true they are looking to tourism for when the oil runs out very similar to dubai, using the revenues now to invest in the future | |||
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"Just read the guardian report on this and it sounds like a lot of the buildings would be built regardless of weather they are to stage a world cup or not." oh you read the Gruniad do you?! I think, as always, different media are portraying differing aspects of it. I read that it was building "cities" etc to be in place for the World Cup | |||
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"Just read the guardian report on this and it sounds like a lot of the buildings would be built regardless of weather they are to stage a world cup or not. oh you read the Gruniad do you?! I think, as always, different media are portraying differing aspects of it. I read that it was building "cities" etc to be in place for the World Cup " No I don't read the guardian it was the first online article i found.I listened to them talking about it on Jeremy vines show today. Whatever the reason behind the deaths its far to many,but to try and blame a sport for it is not right imo. | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x you may find that its not FIFA that that employ them poor souls but the Qatar government who bribed & lied to get this event so don't blame football blame the Lying Cheating bastards who erm "won" the World Cup 7 The whole point is that if they were not building these buildings for the World Cup then they 'may' not have died??" unfortunately life is life people die every single second of the day.. but the workers would have been worked in unsafe without any kind of health n safety, in not saying its acceptable what in saying is Qatar dont give a flying fuck so don't blame football blame Qatar | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x The problem of migrant workers dying in Qatar is well documented long before they even won (cough) the bid to host the World Cup.... in fact it was raised as one of the objections as to why they shouldn't get it. Migrant workers make up over 90% of the population in Qatar - around 1.5 million of them building new cities for the super rich. The body count for building the stadiums will likely be a fraction of the overall deaths of the migrant construction workers. I appreciate that having read a bit more about it, but the fact that people are dying for overpaid footballers etc to run around a pitch doesn't sit well. x " They are not dying for footballers so that is not a fact at all. They are dying because the remaining 6% of the Qatar population - who happen to be highest GDP per capita of any country in the world and generally make footballers look like low income families - want to show the world how rich and therefore powerful they are.... it's a political pissing contest. | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x The problem of migrant workers dying in Qatar is well documented long before they even won (cough) the bid to host the World Cup.... in fact it was raised as one of the objections as to why they shouldn't get it. Migrant workers make up over 90% of the population in Qatar - around 1.5 million of them building new cities for the super rich. The body count for building the stadiums will likely be a fraction of the overall deaths of the migrant construction workers. I appreciate that having read a bit more about it, but the fact that people are dying for overpaid footballers etc to run around a pitch doesn't sit well. x They are not dying for footballers so that is not a fact at all. They are dying because the remaining 6% of the Qatar population - who happen to be highest GDP per capita of any country in the world and generally make footballers look like low income families - want to show the world how rich and therefore powerful they are.... it's a political pissing contest." I am not daft and do understand that, but if they were not having the World Cup, would these men still have died? Ok, they could have worked on other "projects", but my point was relating to the World Cup. I know it is not "footballers" who are doing this, but the platform causing some of the deaths is for them | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x The problem of migrant workers dying in Qatar is well documented long before they even won (cough) the bid to host the World Cup.... in fact it was raised as one of the objections as to why they shouldn't get it. Migrant workers make up over 90% of the population in Qatar - around 1.5 million of them building new cities for the super rich. The body count for building the stadiums will likely be a fraction of the overall deaths of the migrant construction workers. I appreciate that having read a bit more about it, but the fact that people are dying for overpaid footballers etc to run around a pitch doesn't sit well. x They are not dying for footballers so that is not a fact at all. They are dying because the remaining 6% of the Qatar population - who happen to be highest GDP per capita of any country in the world and generally make footballers look like low income families - want to show the world how rich and therefore powerful they are.... it's a political pissing contest. I am not daft and do understand that, but if they were not having the World Cup, would these men still have died? Ok, they could have worked on other "projects", but my point was relating to the World Cup. I know it is not "footballers" who are doing this, but the platform causing some of the deaths is for them " Yes I think they probably would still have died. | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x The problem of migrant workers dying in Qatar is well documented long before they even won (cough) the bid to host the World Cup.... in fact it was raised as one of the objections as to why they shouldn't get it. Migrant workers make up over 90% of the population in Qatar - around 1.5 million of them building new cities for the super rich. The body count for building the stadiums will likely be a fraction of the overall deaths of the migrant construction workers. I appreciate that having read a bit more about it, but the fact that people are dying for overpaid footballers etc to run around a pitch doesn't sit well. x They are not dying for footballers so that is not a fact at all. They are dying because the remaining 6% of the Qatar population - who happen to be highest GDP per capita of any country in the world and generally make footballers look like low income families - want to show the world how rich and therefore powerful they are.... it's a political pissing contest. I am not daft and do understand that, but if they were not having the World Cup, would these men still have died? Ok, they could have worked on other "projects", but my point was relating to the World Cup. I know it is not "footballers" who are doing this, but the platform causing some of the deaths is for them Yes I think they probably would still have died." lol well that's ok then! Glad we sorted that! | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?!" Funniest typo of the day | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day " lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! " Oh dear - it is a typo, that's why it's funny. (Grauniad) | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Oh dear - it is a typo, that's why it's funny. (Grauniad)" lol oh so you got it then!!! That's ok, thought I was going to have to explain the Gruniad!! x | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Oh dear - it is a typo, that's why it's funny. (Grauniad)" | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Oh dear - it is a typo, that's why it's funny. (Grauniad) lol oh so you got it then!!! That's ok, thought I was going to have to explain the Gruniad!! x" I think you're still going to have to.. | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! " Show my age: "Gruniad" is a play on the fact that the Guardian used to be plagued with typos beginning many years ago | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Oh dear - it is a typo, that's why it's funny. (Grauniad) " oh god bed time me thinks, just got it! What a plum!! oops!!!lol ....well I did used to think in University Challenge that they sat above each other!!! x | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Oh dear - it is a typo, that's why it's funny. (Grauniad) oh god bed time me thinks, just got it! What a plum!! oops!!!lol ....well I did used to think in University Challenge that they sat above each other!!! x" | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Show my age: "Gruniad" is a play on the fact that the Guardian used to be plagued with typos beginning many years ago " Not exactly | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Show my age: "Gruniad" is a play on the fact that the Guardian used to be plagued with typos beginning many years ago " ^Grauniad^ | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Show my age: "Gruniad" is a play on the fact that the Guardian used to be plagued with typos beginning many years ago ^Grauniad^" yeah yeah! Don't rub it in!! pft! | |||
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"oh you read the Gruniad do you?! Funniest typo of the day lol not a typo...or were you being tongue in cheek?! Show my age: "Gruniad" is a play on the fact that the Guardian used to be plagued with typos beginning many years ago ^Grauniad^ yeah yeah! Don't rub it in!! pft! " | |||
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"Maybe they should get a minute silence before each game with images of the fallen" I couldn't find any reliable info on it but if it's remotely true it can't be right for countries to support their national teams to play in the stadiums. But I know nothing of the country or what's actually happening. | |||
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"Where was this reported? those figures are from 2012. Since then they are told to take shade when its to hot to work however its catch 22 because if they dont work they dont get paid. It was on jeremy vine radio 2 show today i love sport however it sickens me to think all these people are dying in the name of sport. They havent even built the host city for the final yet nevermind the stadium That's true, but these changes were only brought about by extreme pressure from outside agencies. Also, bearing in mind the temperatures regularly reach over 100 degrees, they stand no chance. i know its shameful the highest recorded temperture in the shade was recorded there last week at 52 deg celsuis it beggars belief that anyone can survive in that never mind working your roe out " I've worked in 50deg c, it's hot, really hot, just walking around in overalls and boxers underneath you are drenched in minutes. We worked a maximum of 15 minutes then had at least 15 minutes in air conditioned bliss drinking pints of isotonic drinks and taking lots of salt tablets. It takes a while to get acclimated and you have to keep an eye on your workmates. There were deaths, rarely but it did happen. To work a full shift in those conditions is a scary prospect without having somewhere to cool down and replace fluids and minerals. How many of those 2000 have died working directly on the world cup project is not known but one is too many for an event that is supposed to be a showcase event. The players when it comes to the world cup itself are going to really struggle to play even a half let alone a full 90, cramps fainting and possibly worse. Maybe an African or Arabic nation will stand a chance. A complete lack of foresight and responsibility shown by Fifa. | |||
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"Lol, ffs. These "overpaid footballers" don't want people building stadiums to die - they certainly won't want to play in Qatar at all. Stop making out like footballers are the cause of every world problem. The whole thing is an obvious bribe - the deaths of any people working on stadiums in Qatar lie at whoever accepted the bribe's feet. Not "overpaid footballers"." | |||
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"Lol, ffs. These "overpaid footballers" don't want people building stadiums to die - they certainly won't want to play in Qatar at all. Stop making out like footballers are the cause of every world problem. The whole thing is an obvious bribe - the deaths of any people working on stadiums in Qatar lie at whoever accepted the bribe's feet. Not "overpaid footballers"." If you read my posts you will see I said I am fully aware it is not the actual footballers but things that are being built for the purpose of football | |||
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"I was astounded to hear today that over 1000 migrants have died already building the infrastructure for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar...they estimate it could be 4000 by then....WTF! Is it just me that thinks this is outrageous?! Now ducks head and hides behind the settee for when stalwart footie fans come a looking!! x " I didn't think it was anyway near 1000 but have heard the conditions are terrible for them and they have had many many accidents which makes you wonder if it is worth it. | |||
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