FabSwingers.com forum: 30% of UK population are racists

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

The news where?

98.5% of statistics are made up.

47% of the time.

Allegedly!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The news where?

98.5% of statistics are made up.

47% of the time.

Allegedly!

It was on the BBC tv news.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27599401

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"The news where?

98.5% of statistics are made up.

47% of the time.

Allegedly!

It was on the BBC tv news."

Some might say the term BBC is racist itself!

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Yes, I saw this. That is 30% openly admit to racist feelings. The West Midlands had one of the highest counts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The news where?

98.5% of statistics are made up.

47% of the time.

Allegedly!

It was on the BBC tv news.

Some might say the term BBC is racist itself!

Two for two

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only 30%

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

it has come from the 2013 British Social Attitudes Survey,

they do this survey every year and it normally fluctauates between 25% and 35% ....

last year was lower, and that was partly put down to have athletes did in the 2012 olympics... the jess ennis' and the mo farrah's ect....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never had the BBC coming into my home to ask me whether I am racist, I do believe I'd remember that detail... Anyone else have the Beeb ask them their racial outlook?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I saw this. That is 30% openly admit to racist feelings. The West Midlands had one of the highest counts.

don't surprise me at all, i live in a UKip constituency, half of them don't even know what they are voting for, they have no idea about the party at all beyond "get the immigrants out"

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Although 30% may admit to racist tendencies, I'd think it might be a higher percentage...I've lost count of the number of times folk say "I'm not racist, but..." And then follow it with something that would make Nick Griffin blush...I genuinely think they don't consider themselves racist, but the statements are truly racist - and that's before anyone uses the words "pakis" or "niggers"

I personally think we are a remarkably tolerant people on the whole, but there is a large minority that are casually racist (even I will have a go at the Germans for hogging the fecking sunbeds)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I never had the BBC coming into my home to ask me whether I am racist, I do believe I'd remember that detail... Anyone else have the Beeb ask them their racial outlook?"

The BBC didn't ask anyone, they just reported on it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Steady on am not racist ! Wtf lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never had the BBC coming into my home to ask me whether I am racist, I do believe I'd remember that detail... Anyone else have the Beeb ask them their racial outlook?

The BBC didn't ask anyone, they just reported on it..."

i think the point he's making is to know 30% are racist then surely they need to ask everyone?

and they didn't ask him....or me

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I can't say I get racism. I can understand disliking someone who has done something to miff you off, but why have a down on someone just because of their colour or where they are from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never had the BBC coming into my home to ask me whether I am racist, I do believe I'd remember that detail... Anyone else have the Beeb ask them their racial outlook?

The BBC didn't ask anyone, they just reported on it..."

Ah that's alright then lol

Anyhoo sounds like a bunch of low level crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to lie and tick all the options on a survey when i was young,

Then i realized they had some purpose,

Some people still lie about anything

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

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By *taryscorpCouple
over a year ago

boston

Bbc didn't come and ask me or any one i know so that is a load a shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bbc didn't come and ask me or any one i know so that is a load a shit

I sincerely hope you're right and the number is far lower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of interest, were any statistics published identifying the ethnic spread of that thirty percent?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I never had the BBC coming into my home to ask me whether I am racist, I do believe I'd remember that detail... Anyone else have the Beeb ask them their racial outlook?

The BBC didn't ask anyone, they just reported on it...

i think the point he's making is to know 30% are racist then surely they need to ask everyone?

and they didn't ask him....or me

You don't say

I think most of us realise that very few if any survey completed ever asks all 50-60 million of us. Most are fairly accurate to within a few percent if the sample group is large enough.

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By *thukguyMan
over a year ago

Wirral /Cyprus

"only 30%

This was my initial thought."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think 30% is low to be honest, was it the same researcher that did Family Fortunes!

Racist people suck!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think 30% is low to be honest, was it the same researcher that did Family Fortunes!

Racist people suck!! "

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Out of interest, were any statistics published identifying the ethnic spread of that thirty percent?

I was wondering that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Out of interest, were any statistics published identifying the ethnic spread of that thirty percent?

Not that I can see in the BBC article, the survey was carried out by natcen and is linked to from the BBC article.

It does compare inner London with the West Midlands and higher levels of education with lower, and age groups.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?"

Bollocks, everybody is racist to a certain extent, depends what you mean by 'racist'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wowsers, don't know if I should be surprised, but I am.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

100% of people are racist in someway it is part of the human condition.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"only 30%

This was my initial thought."

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"Bbc didn't come and ask me or any one i know so that is a load a shit

That's generally not how surveys work. A "representative" percentage of people are asked questions, their responses then form the basis of the survey result. I wasn't asked if I'm a racist (I'm not, apart from not being keen on jam eaters and German sun lounger hoggers)...that doesn't necessarily mean the survey is a load of shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I saw this. That is 30% openly admit to racist feelings. The West Midlands had one of the highest counts.

don't surprise me at all, i live in a UKip constituency, half of them don't even know what they are voting for, they have no idea about the party at all beyond "get the immigrants out"

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Oona King said that areas like London with a larger ethnic population does tend to have a lower intolerance. Which means York is probably one step down from the KKK. Damn, time to move.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't say I get racism. I can understand disliking someone who has done something to miff you off, but why have a down on someone just because of their colour or where they are from?

You're right, stooping that low is not human.

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By *ihimbiherCouple
over a year ago

lightwater

Wot a load of crap.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

Id say it was more than that

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Oona King said that areas like London with a larger ethnic population does tend to have a lower intolerance. Which means York is probably one step down from the KKK. Damn, time to move.

Arse End is similar in that case...there's still folk round here mourn the passing of the Black and White Minstrel Show!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Oona King said that areas like London with a larger ethnic population does tend to have a lower intolerance. Which means York is probably one step down from the KKK. Damn, time to move.

Arse End is similar in that case...there's still folk round here mourn the passing of the Black and White Minstrel Show! "

Mark my words - burning crosses on lawns will be next.

Joking aside, they interviewed some people in Sunderland about their fresh new UKIP councillor and the only reason given for voting them in was because of immigration. Now I know Sunderland isn't exactly wealthy, but its not a hotbed of immigrant ghettos either.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?"

Yes, or those prepared to admit to it were anyhow...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The British Social Attitudes Survey takes a fairly large poll. They do usually ask people to specify their ethnicity and whether they were born in this country.

They target large sample sizes but can't guarantee who will respond but they usually make an effort to try and get a wide ethnic spread that represents the area being sampled. The Census results is used to set the target numbers for each sample area.

The areas with a higher proportion of ethnicities generally report lower racism than those with more mono ethnicities.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Oona King said that areas like London with a larger ethnic population does tend to have a lower intolerance. Which means York is probably one step down from the KKK. Damn, time to move.

Arse End is similar in that case...there's still folk round here mourn the passing of the Black and White Minstrel Show!

Mark my words - burning crosses on lawns will be next.

Look at Tony Travers's report on the elections. He specialises in London but his work has bearing elsewhere.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?"

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"100% of people are racist in someway it is part of the human condition.

Really?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues. "

And York has its finger on the pulse of the country? London might be growing apart from the rest of the UK in some respects but I strongly doubt that predominantly white cathedral cities are the premium examples of how this country runs, however hard certain people want them too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues. "

The Sun is just out of touch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues. "

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues. "

As has been said during the recent elections, London is cultured, educated and young.

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By *atsnCorsetsCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

It's times like this that the lyrics to Avenue Q come to mind:

Everyone's a little bit racist today.

So, everyone's a little bit racist okay!

Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,

But you laugh because

They're based on truth.

Don't take them as

Personal attacks.

Everyone enjoys them -

So relax!

And if you don't like them they were sang by a puppet so you're all puppetish!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It's times like this that the lyrics to Avenue Q come to mind:

Everyone's a little bit racist today.

So, everyone's a little bit racist okay!

Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,

But you laugh because

They're based on truth.

Don't take them as

Personal attacks.

Everyone enjoys them -

So relax!

And if you don't like them they were sang by a puppet so you're all puppetish!

I love that song. I really enjoyed Avenue Q too though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

30% is probably far less than most countries

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?"

I'm feeling conflicted - born near London, live in Yorkshire. I haven't noticed any racist tendencies growing though so maybe I'm safe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not racist... except the French on mass and some Americans and quite a few English... but apart from that.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?"

Hey don't shoot the messenger, i'm just telling people what it said in the newspaper article. I did'nt write the article, lol, it was an article written by the Sun associate editor Trevor Kavanagh. Rather than jumping off the deep end why don't you google it and check it out for yourself?

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By *r-UniqueMan
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

Question is how can someone state there isn't anymore room here as we are running low on supplies without sounding racist or being called one? Secondly there are many words considered to be racist as the English language has changed over the last 30 years and things always get mis interpreted

People should listen to the other persons side of the story before calling them one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dislike everyone equally.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"I dislike everyone equally."

You're going to be a right bundle of fun at the social arentcha?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dislike everyone equally.

You're going to be a right bundle of fun at the social arentcha?

To be fair, I'm not even sure I can make it - I fear it conflicts with something else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

30% of UK population are racist

... and 90 % of them contribute to the Fab Forums

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I dislike everyone equally.

You're going to be a right bundle of fun at the social arentcha?

To be fair, I'm not even sure I can make it - I fear it conflicts with something else."

Boo!!!!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Question is how can someone state there isn't anymore room here as we are running low on supplies without sounding racist or being called one? Secondly there are many words considered to be racist as the English language has changed over the last 30 years and things always get mis interpreted

People should listen to the other persons side of the story before calling them one."

This is a survey where 30% of the respondents admitted to be racist.

Then there are those who don't think they are but practice everyday racism in their daily lives. The survey results aren't about them but the ones who have stated THEY ARE racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

70% don't consider themselves racist in some way. That's probably a bit higher than I'd have expected.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I dislike everyone equally.

You're going to be a right bundle of fun at the social arentcha?

To be fair, I'm not even sure I can make it - I fear it conflicts with something else."

Nooo! I was looking forward to finally hearing your voice.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"I dislike everyone equally.

You're going to be a right bundle of fun at the social arentcha?

To be fair, I'm not even sure I can make it - I fear it conflicts with something else.

Nooo! I was looking forward to finally hearing your voice.

You're nearer - kidnap him for us and me and Caz will help when we get there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nooo! I was looking forward to finally hearing your voice.

You aren't missing out on much - I don't have a cool accent (or any accent really). I'd offer to call you as consolation but I can't stand talking on a phone!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Nooo! I was looking forward to finally hearing your voice.

You aren't missing out on much - I don't have a cool accent (or any accent really). I'd offer to call you as consolation but I can't stand talking on a phone! "

I don't have a cool accent or any accent really either. That's not what it's about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

No its just the micro ample of the 60 million in the uk probably far far far less than 0.1% of the population so admit to or not its all hogwash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple
over a year ago

chester

If there was then it could be claimed they got almost 100% turnout of their voter base which tells you how meaningless the statement is.

UKIP picked up a lot of votes (mine included) because for once it gave the population a real "none of the above" option in lieu of the 3 main similarities that call themselves political parties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont even know what racist is, i remember the days when a blackboard was a blackboard and then it was not pc to call them that and everyone had to call the chalkboards, likewise with whiteboards and then you had to call them drywipe boards, then ba ba black sheep becoming ba ba rainbow sheep but where the fuck do you ever see a rainbow sheep?

its ok to use certain words on your own race i.e black people can call each other niggers and thats ok but no other race can, asian can call each other pakis and nobody else can, white people can call each other crackers or honkeys and so on and so forth, is it not then considered slightly racist to say that your allowed to say a word but no other race is? its all very confusing to me. people tend to generalise based on there experiences. do the survey in bradford alone and i bet racist people here would be around 90% whites a rasict to asians, asians are racist to whites ect ect

technically im a racist because BBC dont do it for me, nor does Asian but i dont hate the entire race, i thought thats what racism was but i must be wrong - miss jay

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

"
sure there are those who deal with it on a daily basis, who class it more than a word?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

also do all the people who voted for ukip know that they are basically the same if not worse than the tories? probably not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the radio they said it was mostly the less educated and the elderly that had classed themselves as being in part racist - which does reflect what I hear, although I'm often surprised at things I hear from those in between too.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?"

I think the article raised many interesting points, and just for the record the article was not about racism. As Trevor Kavanagh says the local and european election results were the living _xpression of the north south (or London, rest of the country) divide. UKIP gained huge support all over the country apart from London, where people mostly voted Labour. Wages are a lot higher in London compared to other areas of the country, property prices sky rocket in London compared to other parts of the country and people vote differently in London compared to other parts of the country so in those respects yes i agreed with the article.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

No its just the micro ample of the 60 million in the uk probably far far far less than 0.1% of the population so admit to or not its all hogwash. "
yeap course it is! Unless however you are on the recieving end if it ... I spose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

What makes you say that?

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over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

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over a year ago

Meanwhile the remaining 70% are making every effort possible to welcome and accomodate their new Romanian neighbours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

sure there are those who deal with it on a daily basis, who class it more than a word?

Which is exactly why it irritates me that it is used so loosely

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues. "

or shock horror folks in some parts of London get on with each other regardless of colour, creed etc..

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

sure there are those who deal with it on a daily basis, who class it more than a word?

Which is exactly why it irritates me that it is used so loosely

"
ahh got ya now, point taken

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By *r-UniqueMan
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

No its just the micro ample of the 60 million in the uk probably far far far less than 0.1% of the population so admit to or not its all hogwash. yeap course it is! Unless however you are on the recieving end if it ... I spose

Question is how reliable are these facts? Who provided the survey, etc? Many statistics are made up these days. I wouldn't believe a word of it as going by that logic. 1 in 3 people are racist. Many people have friends. Are any of them racist? Doubt it as who wants to be friends with a racist

. It's a scare tactic because UKIP are on the rise. If it was that scary they would have brought this up ages ago. Not when ukip came along.

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over a year ago

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

. It's a scare tactic because UKIP are on the rise. If it was that scary they would have brought this up ages ago. Not when ukip came along. "

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?"

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

What makes you say that?"

Maybe they said it because they believe it to be true.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

. It's a scare tactic because UKIP are on the rise. If it was that scary they would have brought this up ages ago. Not when ukip came along. "

The figures are released every year. There is always a bit of press about them but this year the media agenda is different so the figures have been given a higher news billing than they normally get.

Also, as I keep trying to remind people on every thread where UKIP ends up as the centre of the thread they have been around for over 20 years. This idea that they are brand new and just finding their way is wrong.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?"

Salaries taken as a whole are greater in London but the minimum wage is the same across the country. House prices are inflated by a number of factors, one being that developers sell off plan to lucrative foreign markets like Russia and China.

It costs more to I've in London.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

. It's a scare tactic because UKIP are on the rise. If it was that scary they would have brought this up ages ago. Not when ukip came along. "
statistics are always going to be questioned re their reliability etc . My original comment 'those who admit it" was a bit tongue in cheek! The issues if racism are still happening , most deffinatly. The rise of UKIP for some, would confirm that? In my opinion UKIP are the top of a very large iceburg.... Lets hope it melts and evaperates before we go backwards instead if forwards

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over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?"

As Lickety has already pointed out UKIP struggled in London because much of the electorate is young, educated and cultured (UKIP's words not mine and not taken out of context). The point I was making, and that you appear to have missed is that the Sun is clearly pandering to UKIP's lack of success.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

It costs more to I've in London."

Then we have westminster and the houses of parliament. It is commonplace now among newspapers, news channels and the average man in the street to call it the "Westminster bubble", precisely because people believe westminster to be out of touch and all those inside of it are living in a bubble detatched from society and the rest of the country. Again the election results proved this to be true.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

I think that the UK is full of closet racists. We would never have built an empire if we did not feel that we were superior to the oiks that we invaded, subjugated and subsequently terrorised.

That genetic trait has not disappeared, it has just become hidden behind another British peculiarity, a fear of offending others, or indeed being offended. We are the world leaders at smiling innocently at people whilst at the same time character assassinating them as soon as they turn their back.

Britain is racist but it is normally well hidden. UKIP have given divisiveness, xenophobia and the platform to criticise foreigners a sense of respectability and enabled those so inclined to break free from their shackles and admit their dark secrets.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

......you mean lack of success in London, they did come 1st in the european election for the whole of the UK with more MEP's than any other party. I told you last week on another thread where you were all making jokes about UKIP that it would be UKIP voters who have the last laugh when they come 1st in the european elections.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

It costs more to I've in London.

Indeed, from a voting population of around 55,000,000 - more than 50,000,000 did not vote for division, xenophobia and anti immigration rhetoric... Sorry, what did the election prove?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

It costs more to I've in London.

Indeed, from a voting population of around 55,000,000 - more than 50,000,000 did not vote for division, xenophobia and anti immigration rhetoric... Sorry, what did the election prove?"

I think you'll find anti EU parties did well all over europe, Front Natioanl in France, anti EU party won in Denmark, Anti EU parties did well in greece and Germany, not just in the UK, does'nt that tell you people have had enough of it. If more people had voted here i suspect UKIP would have done even better than they did. As for those people who don't bother to vote, they can hardly complain about the results, if the result is not to their liking.

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over a year ago

"In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?"

The clue to the whole statement is the word "tendencies" as this helps data collectors slip people in groups they want. Its all yesterdays chip paper now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So in a nutshell Centaur...you're saying we disregard the London element of the survey where less people professed to being somewhat racist...because they're living in their on utopia dreamland...

Do you think 30% (that number naturally rises a tad if we disregard the London Anomaly) is a reasonably accurate figure for the portion of population who feel that their set of phenotypical traits are the best combination, and makes them a superior version of human?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

It costs more to I've in London.

Indeed, from a voting population of around 55,000,000 - more than 50,000,000 did not vote for division, xenophobia and anti immigration rhetoric... Sorry, what did the election prove?

Lets ne blunt here at lwast some of those parties had a far more extremist stance than anti EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So in a nutshell Centaur...you're saying we disregard the London element of the survey where less people professed to being somewhat racist...because they're living in their on utopia dreamland...

Yeah let's not question why one of the most multi-cultural cities on earth has less of a problem with racism than the rest of the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

Are you suggesting Londoners become racist so we can keep up with our northern cousins ?

Do you disagree with the article then?

Did the blatant (from your version) agenda not strike you at all?

So you disagree with the official election results that were given then and the difference in the way people voted?

Do you also disagree that wages and property prices are a lot higher in London compared to the rest of the country?

It costs more to I've in London.

Indeed, from a voting population of around 55,000,000 - more than 50,000,000 did not vote for division, xenophobia and anti immigration rhetoric... Sorry, what did the election prove?"
how do you know the thoughts of people that didn't vote ? You are using numbers to suit your views with no basis in fact

A vote for UKIP racist ? More about numbers than race

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?"

Thats 28% (rounding up) of a 35% turnout...

Which is less than 15% of the population of this country...

Doest sound quite so good now does it?...

Wonder how the racist figure was arrived at?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As the majority of true brits have left the country and those that remain are now the minority who is this being referred to? If it is called racism to object to our jobs, NHS, benefit system being abused by non UK nationals then someone has got it wrong. Migrants = those leaving the country. Immigrants those entering the country they cannot even get this right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The news where?

98.5% of statistics are made up.

47% of the time.

Allegedly!

i bet you made that up x

percentages are crap anyway x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this 30% racism from British white people towards black African, Pakistani towards white people in general, Jamaican towards Russians. There are Racists in all nationalities, but I bet most of your thoughts when reading the initial post where thinking that it was aimed at white people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sick to bloody death of the word RACISM

And a lot of cheats hiding behind it

Black people arrived here and integrated Fact Proven

However , there are many incidents of black gangs facing other black gangs calling each other the N....r word

We apparently liberated Iraq , there are more bombs going off now than before we went in, are white people planting those bombs ? No it's tribalism and religious fanatics

If I travel to Liverpool and start giving it large with mancunian wit I am in for a hiding , yet we are both white

There are people arriving daily in this country trying to join their established community and spread the word of Allah and take over the place until we close every church , pub , betting shop , sex club and won't be happy until we all face the same direction on a prayer mat

I don't give a damn about their skin colour ! I do worry about their apparent brainwashing in schools and communities

Yeah go on call me a racist

Oh and all those who just voted UKIP

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

" Thats just the ones who admit to it!!

No its just the micro ample of the 60 million in the uk probably far far far less than 0.1% of the population so admit to or not its all hogwash. "

Funny isn't it that when we have an election, all the 'experts' claim that, ' of course, only 33% turned out, so if everyone actually voted, then the results may well be totally different, but what this means is that only 10% of the population voted them in, etc, etc, etc' and yet when there is a survey of a few hundred or even thousand people, it is suddenly gospel. Maybe that's the way forward then; save money on elections and just survey a couple of thousand people instead!

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Unfortunately I have to agree that the levels of xenophobia in general seem to be increasing. 30% is probably lower than reality, much lower.

I deal with lots of people from a wide range of backgrounds in my job, and the increase in racially intolerant comments recently is worrying. So much so that it has caused my colleagues and I to comment on it, particularly as comments have also come from supposedly educated people too.

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By *olarbear3Man
over a year ago

Surely this cant be a correct percentage I was never asked if I was a racist and I reckon most of my family wasn't or my rugby team, so how do they know the correct figure..

Just out of interest how do they determine what a race is I always thought that calling someone by there colour is ' colour prejudice' not racist how can going by someone's colour be a race of people..the worlds gone mad!

Calling someone by colour and calling someone fat or ugly to me is exactly the same thing

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Yes, I saw this. That is 30% openly admit to racist feelings. The West Midlands had one of the highest counts.

don't surprise me at all, i live in a UKip constituency, half of them don't even know what they are voting for, they have no idea about the party at all beyond "get the immigrants out"

Haha as I live a stones throw away from you I can totally agree with what you have said..

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

What percentage, I wonder, are racist without realising or acknowledging they are racist.

I think most people are guilty of racial stereotyping or casual racism sometimes but I know quite a few people who are extremely racist but would not consider themselves such.

Rural Norfolk is pretty insular and backward in many ways. I know quite a few people who happily discuss "darkies" and how they should all be sent home, with no concept there might be anything wrong with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read this report. It also said that the most racist group of people was older men working in manual jobs. Factories etc. And I can vouch for that. I'd say in my own workplace that figure would be higher. It's somewhat a generational thing. This area has a low level of integration and very few abominations like myself to temper attitudes. It's how they were brought up, parents were the same, and it's probably how their children will be. But hopefully as integration continues attitudes will slowly change.

The assertation that if more people turned out UKIP would have won by a bigger margin is clearly wrong. Even if you take the election results as a representative survey like the rascism one being talked about, then the Percentage the of the vote would probably have been the same. That's how representative surveys work.

And of course London has higher wages than anywhere else in the country. Its the capital city and the most populous. Housing is expensive so wages have to reflect that. Every city in the world costs more to live in than it's suburbs and countryside. I would assume every capital city is doubly so.

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over a year ago

As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

If 30% admit something what is the true figure likely to be?

Of course, you have to take into consideration that some people will blatantly lie when asked any 'market research' type question.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"What percentage, I wonder, are racist without realising or acknowledging they are racist.

I think most people are guilty of racial stereotyping or casual racism sometimes but I know quite a few people who are extremely racist but would not consider themselves such.

exactly this... I know for a fact there are still places in the uk we could visit as a mixed race couple and still in 2014 be frowned apon, and made to feel uncomfortable. In London its accepted much more and majority of people go about their business ( and quite rightly so)

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts."

"Savage, why do you keep arresting this man?"

"He's a villain, sir."

"A villain..."

"And a jail-bird, sir."

"I know he's a jail-bird, Savage, he's down in the cells now! We're holding him on a charge of 'Possession of curly black hair and thick lips."'

"Well - well, there you are, sir."

"You arrested him, Savage!"

"Thank you, sir."

"Savage, would I be correct in assuming that Mr Kodogo is a coloured gentleman?"

"Well, I can't say I've ever noticed, sir."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am not racist... except the French on mass and some Americans and quite a few English... but apart from that. "

Is that irony? You do know "en masse" is a french term?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's lots of racist people round were I live is like they have never seen a black person before is the 21th century not the 60st.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"What percentage, I wonder, are racist without realising or acknowledging they are racist.

I think most people are guilty of racial stereotyping or casual racism sometimes but I know quite a few people who are extremely racist but would not consider themselves such.

Bizarrely, one of the people I know who happily waxes lyrical about "darkies" is friends with a mixed race couple, (black man and white woman), and considers them both to be good people. He'd never call the man a "darkie".

I've never quite got my head around how he decides between good person and evil, scourge of Britain "darkie".

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I am not racist... except the French on mass and some Americans and quite a few English... but apart from that.

Is that irony? You do know "en masse" is a french term?"

Most of our language comes from foreign roots of some sort, to be fair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

As has been said during the recent elections, London is cultured, educated and young.

i never realised that being dumb ass brummie who as being working down london for the past 20 years (on and off) with the rest of the uneducated northerners who catch the train down every monday morning some people even travel there everyday to work in the capital city, the city is not educated its the people who work and reside there every week between monday to friday in hotels, many of whom travel in from well outside the greater london area.

There as been weekly and even daily internal migration within in this country since the age of the train made it possible

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"What percentage, I wonder, are racist without realising or acknowledging they are racist.

I think most people are guilty of racial stereotyping or casual racism sometimes but I know quite a few people who are extremely racist but would not consider themselves such.

I used to visit Wroxham every week: I was the ethnic minority! There are three places I've experienced open racism, so obvious my white companions were horrified as they thought racism didn't exist, bless em: Norfolk, Madrid and Santiago de Cuba, Cuba.

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over a year ago

"In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?"

surveys can be leading, what questions are asked and how they are framed as below

[Sir Humphrey demonstrates how public surveys can reach opposite conclusions]

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there is lack of discipline and vigorous training in our Comprehensive Schools?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think young people welcome some structure and leadership in their lives?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do they respond to a challenge?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Might you be in favour of reintroducing National Service?

Bernard Woolley: Er, I might be.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes or no?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Of course, after all you've said you can't say no to that. On the other hand, the surveys can reach opposite conclusions.

[survey two]

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the danger of war?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Are you unhappy about the growth of armaments?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think there's a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Do you think it's wrong to force people to take arms against their will?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Would you oppose the reintroduction of conscription?

Bernard Woolley: Yes.

[does a double-take]

Sir Humphrey Appleby: There you are, Bernard. The perfectly balanced sample.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"What percentage, I wonder, are racist without realising or acknowledging they are racist.

I think most people are guilty of racial stereotyping or casual racism sometimes but I know quite a few people who are extremely racist but would not consider themselves such.

After nearly 41 years I am still left speechless by some of the things I hear here sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts.

Don't thumbs up that pile o shite.

That's a second hand quote from someone who may well have been a massive rascist himself. It's far from being a fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts."

That indicates that the police/your father/yourself/all of the above feel based on their experiences that people belonging to a particular race are predisposed to criminal behaviour... Nothing to do with level of education, or class or anything like that. Asians and blacks tend to be criminals because they're Asian or black.

How very insightful.

Perhaps much of the west mids finest were involved in the survey, hence the results?

What's interesting isn't the number per se...but the fact a kart proportion of people asked, admitted to racist tendencies.

I sincerely hope it's not as bad as 30%, even if some people think these children of immigrants are deserving bring it on themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*father-in-law*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*ex*!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People shout racism so much that people forget what the real problems are.

Labour made it a crime to talk about it and then people wonder why there are problems

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts.

Don't thumbs up that pile o shite.

That's a second hand quote from someone who may well have been a massive rascist himself. It's far from being a fact. "

Don't hold back there, Jodie. Tell us what you really think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok can of worms. I work for a school with all different cultures of children in it. so I would say I'm not racist but I will only meet white men so would any of you consider me racist for that reason?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People shout racism so much that people forget what the real problems are.

Labour made it a crime to talk about it and then people wonder why there are problems"

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Ok can of worms. I work for a school with all different cultures of children in it. so I would say I'm not racist but I will only meet white men so would any of you consider me racist for that reason? "

No, if it's based on attraction, or lack thereof, rather than a generalised opinion of non-white men.

Attraction is physical not a conscious decision.

If you were to say, however, I won't meet non-white men because they are all thick, or they all smell, or they are more likely to have STIs etc. then that could be considered racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

For me racism is the subjugation of a group of people based on their set of phenotypic all traits.. The idea that one group is superior to or more deserving of privilege/status than another because of certain traits. Expressing the notion that some races/nationalities are prone to criminal behaviour is a little suspect too.

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By *olwaySonarMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

Wonder what was the ethnicity of the people polled? That may need to be considered to help evaluate the stats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

VV and GP. Thank you. Id never comment on anyone's personal hygiene or anything. I just decline politely if I don't want to meet them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say that your job has nothing to do with your meet criteria on here.

I have worked with racist people before they have told me they are racist indirectly. But I am ok because they know me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say that your job has nothing to do with your meet criteria on here.

I have worked with racist people before they have told me they are racist indirectly. But I am ok because they know me."

No it doesn't but I was just comparing the two i think

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts."

nothing like a baseless sweeping generalisation to contribute to a debate is there..?

how would this ex officer feel about being described as a corrupt officer as some of his colleagues in the West Mids serious crime squad (since disbanded)turned out to be..??

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"People shout racism so much that people forget what the real problems are.

Labour made it a crime to talk about it and then people wonder why there are problems"

that's bollocks..

and if you looked into what you are claiming you would know that but hey, my m8's dads m8 down the pub knows this guy who...

add whatever..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say that your job has nothing to do with your meet criteria on here.

I have worked with racist people before they have told me they are racist indirectly. But I am ok because they know me.

No it doesn't but I was just comparing the two i think "

You have no control over what children attend the school you work at. But you have full control over who you meet.

Why would you compare them?

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By *layfull pairingCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Does disliking americans count as racist ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not so much about being racist, but a large proportion of this country being pissed off with immigration and the influx. I have no problem with it at all, my problem lies in trying to change what this country is about. When you read about the schools in Birmingham, FMG going on behind closed doors, arranged marriages, spending thousands upon thousands of pounds for interpreters in schools, then it's time to take a good hard look at what's going on - can't blame people for voting UKIP at this moment in time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As the majority of true brits have left the country and those that remain are now the minority who is this being referred to?."

I'm not sure who told you tgat but they are wrong...

And what defines a true brit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does disliking americans count as racist ? "

no thats ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sick to bloody death of the word RACISM

And a lot of cheats hiding behind it

Black people arrived here and integrated Fact Proven

However , there are many incidents of black gangs facing other black gangs calling each other the N....r word

We apparently liberated Iraq , there are more bombs going off now than before we went in, are white people planting those bombs ? No it's tribalism and religious fanatics

If I travel to Liverpool and start giving it large with mancunian

wit I am in for a hiding , yet we are both white

I don't give a damn about their skin colour ! I do worry about their apparent brainwashing in schools and communities

Yeah go on call me a racist

Oh and all those who just voted UKIP"

Well said, however it is a peaceful religion

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"As the majority of true brits have left the country and those that remain are now the minority who is this being referred to? If it is called racism to object to our jobs, NHS, benefit system being abused by non UK nationals then someone has got it wrong. Migrants = those leaving the country. Immigrants those entering the country they cannot even get this right."

Nope. Emigrants = those leaving the country. Immigrants = those entering. Migrants = those in both categories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts."

But it's not really a fact is it?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"only 30%

This was my initial thought.

well they were the 30% who were prepared to at least admit it....

when it was done "by region"... london was actually the lowest....

the highest was the north east....

Sorry Fabio do you mean London is less racist than the north ?

There was an article in the Sun newspaper yesterday that said London was out of touch with the rest of the country on many issues.

As has been said during the recent elections, London is cultured, educated and young.

There as been weekly and even daily internal migration within in this country since the age of the train made it possible

It was a UKIP spokesperson who provided the statement; it's not one I would make about London.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

Exactly. I was called racist for wearing a poppy last November by 2 Middle Eastern guys at my uni because apparently it "promoted the British army and the slaughter of innocent Muslim's".

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Wonder what was the ethnicity of the people polled? That may need to be considered to help evaluate the stats."

See my post from yesterday on how the survey targeting works.

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough

"As to the West Midlands comment. My Ex partners dad was a police inspector in Birmingham. He said most of the trouble and crime was caused by blacks and asians.

Only problem was the police were not allowed to say this in case they were seen to be racist. Facts are facts.

nothing like a baseless sweeping generalisation to contribute to a debate is there..?

how would this ex officer feel about being described as a corrupt officer as some of his colleagues in the West Mids serious crime squad (since disbanded)turned out to be..??

Nowhere near as pissed off as George Glen Lewis, Keith Twitchell and the Birmingham Six.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I would say that your job has nothing to do with your meet criteria on here.

I have worked with racist people before they have told me they are racist indirectly. But I am ok because they know me."

That's the one I get. I also have the memorable line "and you don't have one of those stupid names".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say that your job has nothing to do with your meet criteria on here.

I have worked with racist people before they have told me they are racist indirectly. But I am ok because they know me.

That's the one I get. I also have the memorable line "and you don't have one of those stupid names"."

I have several stupid names...

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough

"Ahh the term racist

A word thrown around too easily and too often

Exactly. I was called racist for wearing a poppy last November by 2 Middle Eastern guys at my uni because apparently it "promoted the British army and the slaughter of innocent Muslim's". "

see Britain really is a land of equal oppourtunity. Anybody of any race, colour or creed can be an ill informed bigot here it isn't reserved for Caucasian Christians.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"People shout racism so much that people forget what the real problems are.

Labour made it a crime to talk about it and then people wonder why there are problems"

The off quoted PC had it's heyday in the 80s and 90s. Only three of those years were under Labour.

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

No one asked me, but I have to admit that I am a racist to all men black white brown yellow. But when it comes to women. Your all welcome

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Racism is a term of abuse that is thrown around to silence debate on what people want to talk about.

Did anyone see of the election hopeful who was arrested last month for quoting Winston Church in an election speech? We are adults and should be free to talk about whatever we like,regardless of whether some people want us to be silent

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I would say that your job has nothing to do with your meet criteria on here.

I have worked with racist people before they have told me they are racist indirectly. But I am ok because they know me."

Yep...find they don't mean me either because they know me and I'm educated, law abiding, never claimed a penny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Racism is a term of abuse that is thrown around to silence debate on what people want to talk about.

He was arrested in suspicion of racial harassment not for quoting Churchill.

Not sure of the relevance of quoting from a book written in the 19th century during an election campaign 115 years after it was published is though

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

30% of Britains racist. . . .the other 70% are white.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?"

At no point can I see where it says what percentage of the 30% is white or black so are we just presuming the 30% are all white

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Racism is a term of abuse that is thrown around to silence debate on what people want to talk about.

He was arrested in suspicion of racial harassment not for quoting Churchill.

Not sure of the relevance of quoting from a book written in the 19th century during an election campaign 115 years after it was published is though"

The age of the book is irrelevant. Libera values are timelss. Churchill was discussing islam...surely all ideas and religions should be open for discussion in a democracy.

We are becoming an authoritarian society and we must resist

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

"It's not so much about being racist, but a large proportion of this country being pissed off with immigration and the influx. I have no problem with it at all, my problem lies in trying to change what this country is about. When you read about the schools in Birmingham, FMG going on behind closed doors, arranged marriages, spending thousands upon thousands of pounds for interpreters in schools, then it's time to take a good hard look at what's going on - can't blame people for voting UKIP at this moment in time!"
and can't blame other humans coming to the uk and taking advantage of whats on offer! However peoples anger and frustrations are taken out on those, rather than _xpressing their opinions to the people who make the decisions ! Thats like blaming a duck in a pond for eating all the bread, not those who are throwing it in! Lets not also forget the many who sprout about the ' immigrants coming over her, taking all our jobs' Yet they sit on their arses , never done a days work in their lives..

There are many law abiding, hard workers who pay their way and their taxes, support their own families and are not the stereo typical ' immigrant' propa astounds me that all are tar'd with the same brush. Many jump on the proverbial band wagon and havn't a clue what they are talking about

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Racism is a term of abuse that is thrown around to silence debate on what people want to talk about.

He was arrested in suspicion of racial harassment not for quoting Churchill.

Not sure of the relevance of quoting from a book written in the 19th century during an election campaign 115 years after it was published is though

The age of the book is irrelevant. Libera values are timelss. Churchill was discussing islam...surely all ideas and religions should be open for discussion in a democracy.

We are becoming an authoritarian society and we must resist"

By the same token discussing racism is a valid conversation to have.

Let's not forget that a lot of the problems we now have in the Middle East began with the arbitrary boundaries imposed after WWI. Conflating an argument about oil, land, religion and race by putting it all into the Islamaphobia basket doesn't help either.

Racism exists. The survey is carried out regularly. It's not just white on black at its most base human level. When someone behaving in a racist manner is called a racist and they blame that on us uppity black people then that is the confirmation that the power dynamic of we owned you and are better than you confirms it. It's exactly the same with black on black racism.

Next time you are asked to participate in a survey don't hang up, walk away or put it in the bin and you too can have your say. Next time there is an election turn up and vote.

I have NEVER called a racist racist, I have pointed out that their behaviour can be seen as racist. I can't change what people believe but I can hope and expect to be treated equally and with dignity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?

At no point can I see where it says what percentage of the 30% is white or black so are we just presuming the 30% are all white

I'll report what lickety - this may give a slightly clearer picture:

"The British Social Attitudes Survey takes a fairly large poll. They do usually ask people to specify their ethnicity and whether they were born in this country.

The areas with a higher proportion of ethnicities generally report lower racism than those with more mono ethnicities."

In the end, 'tis a shame that no matter the ethnicity, such people exist who feel phenotype determines ones position in society, whether the number is 30% or 3%. Ignorance reigns supreme in some people's minds.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"In the news today it stated that 30% admit to being or having racist tendencies...

Is there any correlation to the fact that UKIP recently got 27.49% of the vote?

At no point can I see where it says what percentage of the 30% is white or black so are we just presuming the 30% are all white

I'll report what lickety - this may give a slightly clearer picture:

"The British Social Attitudes Survey takes a fairly large poll. They do usually ask people to specify their ethnicity and whether they were born in this country.

The areas with a higher proportion of ethnicities generally report lower racism than those with more mono ethnicities."

Just to add a further layer of polling clarification... you are usually asked an opening question to determine whether you fit the target criterion. On a recent survey I was ruled out because I wasn't born in the UK. The question was as simple as that and didn't probe into my ethnicity so my white friend of English parents would also have been ruled out as she was born in America.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont think its as bad as it sounds, tbh.

dont forget the UK has suffered with years of open door immigration, so even though they say its as bad now as it was in teh 80's, its a distinctly different brand of 'racism', as in, its definitely NOT as aggressive or harmful as it was back then, but also, there are many more races to take into account.

is hating the fact factories have almost entire workforces from eastern europe racist?

if so, then this is possibly where the figures come from.

its not so much black and white anymore, but more fluid.

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By *ob and VixenCouple
over a year ago

Doncaster

they are not made up. a good friend of mind was involved with this study

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By *ob and VixenCouple
over a year ago

Doncaster

they can never ask everyone. natcen do this academic study every year and the media report on it. if you google nat cen you will find out more

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By *ob and VixenCouple
over a year ago

Doncaster

nat cen are a very reputable social research organisation

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