FabSwingers.com forum: professional guys only

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

Doesnt professional in that context usually mean an occupation that requires the wearing of a suit, shirt and tie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The definition of professional is a difficult one, as there are many differing interpretations...

To me, a professional person means being part of a professional regulatory body. For example a nurse is regulated by the NMC, Dr the GMC, solicitors, physio's, chartered surveyors etc...

Being a professional in this definition generally indicates a common level of education.

I think that's why some people allude to this in their profiles (me included). Generally, from my experience a person who is a professional will string a half decent message together on fab and that's half the battle for me as any hint of text talk/one liners and i'm hovering over the delete button!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If one needs to ask what that means, then one is unlikely to be their targeted would be playmates.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

Your job is a driver.

A profession is a recognised body.

The word is often misused.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"If one needs to ask what that means, then one is unlikely to be their targeted would be playmates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could be classed as a professional ignoramus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

Perhaps they mean Rent Boy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im a professional in my dirty greasy overhauls because im good at what I do regardless of what I wear

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

i just move on to the next profile ...cant be bothered working it out

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

To me anything that requires post graduate qualification (doctor, accountant, architect, clergy). Those pore sods after their degree hold down a 40-50 hour paid week plus about another 30 hour studying week for about 3-4 additional years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I am a professional driver.

What's that?...

You drive what?..

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By *tevelizCouple
over a year ago

northampton

if you get paid then you are professional.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"im a professional in my dirty greasy overhauls because im good at what I do regardless of what I wear"

Being good at what you do doesn't mean you have a profession.

Some 'professinals' are shit at what they do but they DO have a profession.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"if you get paid then you are professional. "

No.

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By *tevelizCouple
over a year ago

northampton

sounds like some people want to stick to those doing certain types of job. Why not say that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im qualified if not over for my job so yes I would class myself as a professional at what I do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im qualified if not over for my job so yes I would class myself as a professional at what I do"

Exactly it's subjective...as far as employment goes per se.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Amateur Boxer = un-paid

Professional Boxer = Is paid

I would guess that's a fairly new concept of the word.

Maybe there is a clue in the word itself, a professional can profess their subject?

But then they get called Professors, then if you progress up the scale you become a Mr, back where you started out.

I wonder which type of professionals are the best fuck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The flip side are guys who message us with their CV boasting about their high status in society.

Yes..... And? We need to know this why? Are they suggesting being qualified in a good job makes them better lovers?

The message usually gets a

shortly before it meets the deleted file.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Amateur Boxer = un-paid

Professional Boxer = Is paid

No. It's not that Black and White.

Money is doesn't really come into it at it's most fundamental level.

Amateurs only Box to 4 rounds, Pro's can Box to 12.

Amateurs where Headgear, Pro's don't.

The scoring system is totally different too.

Amateur Boxing has a more complex points system than PRO.

My Dad was a PRO boxer.

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By *tevelizCouple
over a year ago

northampton

change going through in boxing. no nee for headgear for amitures

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Yeah but what about professional British Wrestling in the 60's and 70's ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Why do we call athletes and footballers professionals?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you could say a bloke that gets money for donating sperm is a professional wanker then?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"So you could say a bloke that gets money for donating sperm is a professional wanker then?

Not just those blokes either

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

"Why do we call athletes and footballers professionals? "

I guess that goes back to the gentleman vs players discussion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

Think they mean male escorts.

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By *asha mayWoman
over a year ago

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

It is a difficult statement, we are both pro at our jobs, does that make us professional?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"If one needs to ask what that means, then one is unlikely to be their targeted would be playmates.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"im qualified if not over for my job so yes I would class myself as a professional at what I do"

Fine. Driving is not a 'Profession'

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Why do we call athletes and footballers professionals? "

Because they get paid.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"im qualified if not over for my job so yes I would class myself as a professional at what I do

Exactly it's subjective...as far as employment goes per se.

It's not subjective.

A lawyer will study for years to become a member of his profession. He will take up a job with a firm that hires people who have a recognised academic qualification for a recognised profession.

Driving is not a profession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's always the television show version of professional where you wear twatty suits, drive fancy cars and lack social skills beyond paying twatty backhanded compliments at key parts of conversations about how wanky and cringey you really are when you're not trying to keep a straight photogenic face by not opening your mouth...

However being professional really only involves two or three of those things, so it's not fair to assume they all drive fancy cars.

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

And the only debatable profession is IT. It is the only highly paid salaried occupation where you do not officially have to take post grad exams in order to become established and earn over time those over six figure salaries. Back in the day you had IDPM accreditation but unix and RDBMS take up blew the old skool away in the early 90s.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

Driving is not a profession."

i dont agree with you on this one ...hazmat drivers are at the mercy of every other looney that happens to be on the the road ...and if a collision occurs there is only one person not walking away from their vehicle

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Driving is not a profession.

They may do their job in a professional manner and with great skill but driving is not a profession.

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By *AMES19620Man
over a year ago

newport

i have replied to some of these requests

i have a trade and two degrees but when you start mailing and they cant string a sentence together without txt slang makes you wonder hehehe

but did meet one couple that insisted professional single man so i met them i turned up in a suit

they turned up as if he was going to the beach she had a shell suit on

this life style makes me laugh and would not change it just so mad and unpredictable love it

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Rather that looking at how people describe their so called status in life, read their profile. Make up your own mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what about those that have the years of education, the letters after their names etc but no longer work in that field?

For example qualified lawyer that now works as for a charity as a support worker, a job that does not require more than a secondary school education?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

does hedge fund manager count as professional?

I have a picture of one on my T-shirt being very slowly fucked in the ass by a steam roller..

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"So what about those that have the years of education, the letters after their names etc but no longer work in that field?

........"

What about them?

Your degree doesn't expire.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

They may do their job in a professional manner and with great skill but driving is not a profession."

i think carrying combustible chemicles down a busy motorway has a hell of more reaponsibility attached to it than fixing a PC ..but hey ho ..they areprofessional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional bodies, membership of which entitles you to be called a professional , are backed by Royal Charter , together with stringent requirements for continued professional education , and also strict monitoring of member's competence and standards

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

"does hedge fund manager count as professional?

I have a picture of one on my T-shirt being very slowly fucked in the ass by a steam roller..

Yep considering the beginnings of a junior in that field is around a PhD. But hey sometimes non educated people will be in charge of my pension fund

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

They may do their job in a professional manner and with great skill but driving is not a profession.

i think carrying combustible chemicles down a busy motorway has a hell of more reaponsibility attached to it than fixing a PC ..but hey ho ..they areprofessional "

Being a professional is not just about responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

Why not say that then? Chavs know they're chavs. Some revel in being chavs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

Why not say that then? Chavs know they're chavs. Some revel in being chavs."

Or just block any profile with a hint of Burberry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

Why not say that then? Chavs know they're chavs. Some revel in being chavs."

We are happy with the more subtle term professional and obviously use our own judgement too

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

Why not say that then? Chavs know they're chavs. Some revel in being chavs.

Or just block any profile with a hint of Burberry

That would be Burberry last century, the brand has matured a bit since then. The CEO last week txf to Apple.. That is going to be interesting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

Why not say that then? Chavs know they're chavs. Some revel in being chavs.

Or just block any profile with a hint of Burberry

That would be Burberry last century, the brand has matured a bit since then. The CEO last week txf to Apple.. That is going to be interesting "

Let's see if Apple can match Googles $1,000 per share price

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently looking at flats and when state preferred tenant professional simply means employed I.e not students or on benefits

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I'm currently looking at flats and when state preferred tenant professional simply means employed I.e not students or on benefits "

Anyone, no qualifications required, can set up as an estate agent or letting agent so they're hardly the best judges.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

This is how I interpret it too. I haven't got the term 'professional' in my profile but from messages received I would discount anyone who spoke a certain way and was basically common. Yes it makes me a snob but so be it.

I have little in common with people like that and vice versa, they would find me boring. And, like mentioned earlier, those who are professional will not need to ask what it means or come out with silly excuses because they are excluded.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Do politicians count as professionals?

They usually have a degree, are well regarded in their community if not in the nation as a whole and are allowed to sign passport photos.

Is that enough ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm currently looking at flats and when state preferred tenant professional simply means employed I.e not students or on benefits

Anyone, no qualifications required, can set up as an estate agent or letting agent so they're hardly the best judges."

It's not the estate agent that decides it's the land lord. But all I'm aAying is same as others it depends on ur view And the context. Professionals I agree used to be the top respected occupations eg doctors and lawyers but now It's generally used to define anyone employed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about Commercial Pilots (Military also) and Air Traffic Controllers? It might surprise you to know the general entry requirement is only 2 A levels for Military Pilots and ATCO's, but you can qualify as a CPL without any formal qualifications at all. Not even GCSEs. Even the top level exams ATPL aren't much above GCSE level.

However gravity has a way of sorting out the people who are not up to the task.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do we call athletes and footballers professionals?

I guess that goes back to the gentleman vs players discussion "

They're only professional if they get paid for it

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

The whole professional thing is endemic snobbery. I am an electrician, wear practical, working clothes but consider what I do a profession, conduct myself as such and am perfectly capable of conversing with anyone. To me, discrimination on the basis of what someone's job is or what they may wear to perform their function is as prejudiced as any other way of categorising people into acceptable or not.

We are all, as my intelligent, hardworking, completely formally unqualified gran used to say, Jock Tamson's bairns and more importantly all need each other to function.

To write off anyone as not their 'type' on the basis of employment seems manifestly ridiculous to me.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The whole professional thing is endemic snobbery. ......."

Is claiming to be professional when you're clearly not any more snobby than using your personal definition of professional to out the kind of people you wouldn't wish to meet?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Most professional bodies have direct entry systems that require fairly low academic qualifications (normally 2 A levels). However all professional bodies have their own professional qualifications that must be passed to work in the profession as anything other than a trainee.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I wouldn't quarrel with that too much except that most professional bodies now look for a first degree as a minimum.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"The whole professional thing is endemic snobbery. I am an electrician, wear practical, working clothes but consider what I do a profession, conduct myself as such and am perfectly capable of conversing with anyone. To me, discrimination on the basis of what someone's job is or what they may wear to perform their function is as prejudiced as any other way of categorising people into acceptable or not.

We are all, as my intelligent, hardworking, completely formally unqualified gran used to say, Jock Tamson's bairns and more importantly all need each other to function.

To write off anyone as not their 'type' on the basis of employment seems manifestly ridiculous to me."
Your an electrician, which is a highly regulated trade but what an electrician does is not the same as an electrical engineer, who is a professional.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"The whole professional thing is endemic snobbery. .......

Is claiming to be professional when you're clearly not any more snobby than using your personal definition of professional to out the kind of people you wouldn't wish to meet?"

My point is I would not use it to anyone out. Any employment can be considered professional, I do not discriminate either on the basis of that employment or indeed it's lack when deciding either who I like or want to play with!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Someone has suggested that a good way of identifying a professional is by which kind of prison they get sent to.

Professionals go to open prisons.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The whole professional thing is endemic snobbery. .......

Is claiming to be professional when you're clearly not any more snobby than using your personal definition of professional to out the kind of people you wouldn't wish to meet?

And that's OK, just as its OK for someone else to use it as a basis for their decision.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

We are all, as my intelligent, hardworking, completely formally unqualified gran used to say, Jock Tamson's bairns and more importantly all need each other to function.

To write off anyone as not their 'type' on the basis of employment seems manifestly ridiculous to me. Your an electrician, which is a highly regulated trade but what an electrician does is not the same as an electrical engineer, who is a professional. "

I would entirely disagree.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"I wouldn't quarrel with that too much except that most professional bodies now look for a first degree as a minimum."
Onny, I'm an old sod and when I was first qualifying we still had polys, teacher training and colleges of HE, now they all call themselves unis

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"The whole professional thing is endemic snobbery. .......

Is claiming to be professional when you're clearly not any more snobby than using your personal definition of professional to out the kind of people you wouldn't wish to meet?

And that's OK, just as its OK for someone else to use it as a basis for their decision."

Absolutely, it is just not how I feel hence me adding my opinion to this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think too much emphesis is placed on pure academic qualifications -

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I wouldn't quarrel with that too much except that most professional bodies now look for a first degree as a minimum.Onny, I'm an old sod and when I was first qualifying we still had polys, teacher training and colleges of HE, now they all call themselves unis

Less of the old sod. You're younger than me

I take your point. Degrees are being handed out like sweeties nowadays.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Personally I think too much emphesis is placed on pure academic qualifications - "

By whom?

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

We are all, as my intelligent, hardworking, completely formally unqualified gran used to say, Jock Tamson's bairns and more importantly all need each other to function.

And you're, btw.

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By *erendipity99Woman
over a year ago

Runcorn

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

The majority who put profeshunal on their profile spell it wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

The majority who put profeshunal on their profile spell it wrong. "

I'm a real pro

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I find writing only professionals as useless as having no time wasters etc on my profile. People obviously have very different ideas on what is professional, and having that is not going to ensure the type of people you want to avoid will not message.

As is I've had PhD's who couldn't hold an intelligent stimulating conversation nor work up any sexual excitement in me, yet I've had amazing nights filled with witty, inciteful clever conversations with those without degrees, and letters after their name!

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"Personally I think too much emphesis is placed on pure academic qualifications -

By whom?"

I can only agree. Even when I was at school, the drive was to get you to University. Anything else was a secondary consideration. But where would we be without postmen, bus drivers, shop assistants, call centre operatives, policemen, firemen, childcare workers, house husbands/wives......the list goes on. Everyone who wishes to contribute to society has worth and deserves recognition, whether we term this professional or not.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"Personally I find writing only professionals as useless as having no time wasters etc on my profile. People obviously have very different ideas on what is professional, and having that is not going to ensure the type of people you want to avoid will not message.

This!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Personally I think too much emphesis is placed on pure academic qualifications -

By whom?

Many of those you mention have degrees but can't find degree level jobs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By both posters and generally - I have a degree - and when I worked for a while in a warehouse experienced first hand the subtle snobbery at work from some office staff and directors who suddenly spoke to me differently when I revealed I had one. It's odd as I speak to everyone I meet as people first, letters after and works very well for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"By both posters and generally - I have a degree - and when I worked for a while in a warehouse experienced first hand the subtle snobbery at work from some office staff and directors who suddenly spoke to me differently when I revealed I had one. It's odd as I speak to everyone I meet as people first, letters after and works very well for me."

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"Personally I think too much emphesis is placed on pure academic qualifications -

By whom?

Many of those you mention have degrees but can't find degree level jobs.

And many do not and never will. Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, I would hate to be viewed differently on that basis.

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By *ub... girlWoman
over a year ago

worcester

My profession is a swimming instructor but I'm not in a suit I'm either in tshirt and leggings or a swimming costume...

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"My profession is a swimming instructor but I'm not in a suit I'm either in tshirt and leggings or a swimming costume..."

Can I just say you look fucking great without it!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, .........."

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves.

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By *ub... girlWoman
over a year ago

worcester

"My profession is a swimming instructor but I'm not in a suit I'm either in tshirt and leggings or a swimming costume...

Can I just say you look fucking great without it!

well thank u very much x

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, ..........

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves."

What do you call 10000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Your an electrician, which is a highly regulated trade but what an electrician does is not the same as an electrical engineer, who is a professional.

And you're, btw."

I am an abseiler, my trade association is IRATA. I do also hold level 2 qualifications in a 3 NDT disciplines (not aerospace) and in hazardous and confined spaces.

I could call myself a rope accesses technician, or an NDT technician but "dope on a rope" really covers it.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"My profession is a swimming instructor but I'm not in a suit I'm either in tshirt and leggings or a swimming costume...

Can I just say you look fucking great without it!

well thank u very much x

You are so very welcome, and thank you!

#resistslamebreaststrokejoke x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got to say my life plan went slighty west- I went to uni not into the forces due to medical reasons - so I got one by accident and far less work than I thought you needed -

It's not the qualification as such but the perception that a degree somehow cures all ills and the candidate with one is superior by default. They may be but in an interview I'd be quite hard on them.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"Your an electrician, which is a highly regulated trade but what an electrician does is not the same as an electrical engineer, who is a professional.

And you're, btw.

I am an abseiler, my trade association is IRATA. I do also hold level 2 qualifications in a 3 NDT disciplines (not aerospace) and in hazardous and confined spaces.

I could call myself a rope accesses technician, or an NDT technician but "dope on a rope" really covers it.

Lol, joiners are wood-butchers and plumbers pipe-monkeys but I have respect for all who do their jobs well, take pride and work hard!

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By *ub... girlWoman
over a year ago

worcester

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, ..........

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves.

What do you call 10000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"

do tel...

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By *ub... girlWoman
over a year ago

worcester

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, ..........

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves.

What do you call 10000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"

do tel...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

whos

really

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, ..........

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves.

What do you call 10000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

do tel..."

A good start!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably no one at this time of the morning but it's fun getting the bile going.

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By *ub... girlWoman
over a year ago

worcester

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, ..........

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves.

What do you call 10000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

do tel...

Haha, do like...

A good start!"

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"whos

really

fucking

arsed

Lol, you are not embracing the nature of the fora!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A wise hand once told me you can have an amateur with a professional attitude but you can also have an amateurish professional.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"A wise hand once told me you can have an amateur with a professional attitude but you can also have an amateurish professional.

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

" .......Bizarrely I have a law degree and am an electrician, ..........

Excellent. Everyone should strive to do better for themselves.

What do you call 10000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

do tel...

Haha, do like...

A good start!"

Ever had a professional spanking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We mention professionals in our profile and it is a subtle way of saying 'no chavs'.

Perhaps confusing as we will happily swing with tradesmen, posties, checkout workers and doctors but you must not be a chav.

Sums up our rationale perfectly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im qualified if not over for my job so yes I would class myself as a professional at what I do

Exactly it's subjective...as far as employment goes per se.

It's not subjective.

A lawyer will study for years to become a member of his profession. He will take up a job with a firm that hires people who have a recognised academic qualification for a recognised profession.

Driving is not a profession."

It is subjective.

In the context of it being stamped on a fab profile "professional people only" I'd it call pretty subjective as far as fab goes.

Some people might call a bone head bouncer a professional if he has his own house they can fuck in. Instead of theirs.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I find intelligence a turn on and I prefer play partners with an ability to communicate clearly.

I don't give a damn if they are a member of a profession.

I decide whom I wish to meet from profiles and the messages I receive. Intelligence and attention to detail show.

I have an excellent degree, postgraduate education, letters after my name and professional qualifications. I consider my status as a "professional" to be shaky though. Technically I am, realistically I don't consider myself one.

However, the quality of my education, academic ability, intelligence and ability to string a sentence together can't really be genuinely called into question

I probably wouldn't respond to a profile requesting professionals only, for several reasons.

The bottom line is it is possible to be intelligent, good company and able to string a sentence together without being a professional. Whilst being a professional may be an indicator of those qualities, it is not a given.

If one is looking for the ability to string a sentence together or for someone who presents themself smartly, why not be clear and say that?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"It is subjective.In the context of it being stamped on a fab profile "professional people only" I'd it call pretty subjective as far as fab goes.Some people might call a bone head bouncer a professional if he has his own house they can fuck in. Instead of theirs."

It is not subjective.

Whether people understand and mean what they say is entirely questionable and often open to interpretation. The definition of professional is not.

The confusion exists in how individual people use the word, and what they mean by it. They often apply it incorrectly and without understanding of what they are saying. That doesn't change the definition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

I'm a professional perv does that count

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im qualified if not over for my job so yes I would class myself as a professional at what I do

Exactly it's subjective...as far as employment goes per se.

It's not subjective.

A lawyer will study for years to become a member of his profession. He will take up a job with a firm that hires people who have a recognised academic qualification for a recognised profession.

Driving is not a profession.

It is subjective.

In the context of it being stamped on a fab profile "professional people only" I'd it call pretty subjective as far as fab goes.

Some people might call a bone head bouncer a professional if he has his own house they can fuck in. Instead of theirs."

Come on we know the only true professionals are Bodie and Doyle lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is not subjective.

Yeah it doesn't change the definition that's why I said it was "Subjective", as you are proving by this statement:

"The confusion exists in how individual people use the word, and what they mean by it. They often apply it incorrectly and without understanding of what they are saying."

^THAT by definition is subjective..

Everyone has different ways of interpreting something.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

It is not subjective.

Yeah it doesn't change the definition that's why I said it was "Subjective", as you are proving by this statement:

"The confusion exists in how individual people use the word, and what they mean by it. They often apply it incorrectly and without understanding of what they are saying."

^THAT by definition is subjective..

Everyone has different ways of interpreting something.

No. The definition is precise.

Whether people use it correctly is what is in question.

What they mean by it varies but that does not change the definition.

I don't understand what's difficult about that concept.

The meaning of "professional" is specific not subjective. Who is and who is not a professional is not open to question.

Whether people understand it and use it correctly is the only variable. Incorrect use of a term does not change its meaning.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Example:

Obese has a specific definition.

Often the term is used incorrectly to describe people who are not obese.

That does not change the actual definition of the term obese, which is specific.

It makes the people calling non-obese people obese wrong!

It's not open to interpretation. It's open to incorrect use by those who don't understand what the term actually means.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Example:

Obese has a specific definition.

Often the term is used incorrectly to describe people who are not obese.

That does not change the actual definition of the term obese, which is specific.

It makes the people calling non-obese people obese wrong!

It's not open to interpretation. It's open to incorrect use by those who don't understand what the term actually means."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both Donna and myself are "professionals" as our jobs are regulated by a governing body, neither of us wear suits or work in an office, im generally in jeans and t shirt for work, so to anyone in the street I dont look like what is perceived as a professional, its all rubbish anyway, it doesnt make me any better than the bin man or a road sweeper, its just a word people use to make them seem important

Just my 2 penneth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst we don't have professional on our profile, we have attended parties where the criteria asked for was 'professional'. Now on entry to these homes we did not have to produce written proof. It is merely an indication that the people invited to the parties were of a similar background or would be able to join in effectively and not feel uneasy.

It's also an indication of the type of venue you are likely to be invited to. The parties we've attended have been house parties and the houses have been well maintained in a nice area. I would not attend a party in a high rise flat in a rough area.

There has only been one time then we got it wrong, we accepted a party invite to an address in Yorkshire. When we arrived the smell of in the street nearly keeled me over and there were people standing outside the house smoking. Now I would never enter that type of house because I could tell from the look of the people outside, that we really wouldn't fit in.

I know all that sounds really snobby and will probably insult some people, but you have to play within your own comfort zone and mix with people similar in attitude.

Therefore i do not believe that the term professional in relation to fab users is necessarily about whether you have qualifications and regulated by a professional body, but more about your lifestyle

I don't even think you need to state professional as it's easy to pinpoint those with similar attitudes by the way they speak in messages or even on the forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

The majority who put profeshunal on their profile spell it wrong. "

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I'm a professional cynic, but my heart's not in it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whilst we don't have professional on our profile, we have attended parties where the criteria asked for was 'professional'. Now on entry to these homes we did not have to produce written proof. It is merely an indication that the people invited to the parties were of a similar background or would be able to join in effectively and not feel uneasy.

I know all that sounds really snobby and will probably insult some people, but you have to play within your own comfort zone and mix with people similar in attitude.

Therefore i do not believe that the term professional in relation to fab users is necessarily about whether you have qualifications and regulated by a professional body, but more about your lifestyle

I don't even think you need to state professional as it's easy to pinpoint those with similar attitudes by the way they speak in messages or even on the forum. "

Exactly this. It's like anything in life - you mix with people you feel comfortable with. And if you're having sex with them it should be even more of a priority!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if people do not wish to meet other people then that is their choice whatever their reasons are no matter what whether it is because they seek professionals, chavs, black, white, short, tall, fat, thin, yellow, green etc it's their choice.

its about being happy and comfortable with the people you choose to spend your free time with.

sorry for the rant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm very un profesional that's what my boss says, I got a first in my degree, even though the job I do now has nothing to do with what I studied at uni so I guess you could say I'm a non profesional with a profesional qualification.....but I can't half fuck lol

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

Like the word "consultant" used before travel, nail and hair. Often misused and misinterpreted. If you look at medical/ nurse consultants and length if training and assessment they go through, a travel consultant justs doesn't compare.

To us, professional is someone who can string a coherent sentence together, who knows how to hold a conversation, who is intelligent and is well mannered. Some say it is snobbery, we love being snobs in that case.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Another commonly used one is "engineer".

A telephone engineer? Really? How many have actually completed a recognised course of study in any form of engineering?

This one drives a couple of my friends, who are engineers, right up their tree!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a professional and i play and fuck like one too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when someone asks for a professional, it usually means they are a snob and want a certain lifestyle, a bit like people wanting someone from a similar cast.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am professionally retired

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"when someone asks for a professional, it usually means they are a snob and want a certain lifestyle, a bit like people wanting someone from a similar cast."

Like from the cast of a musical or a serious dramatical production?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The flip side are guys who message us with their CV boasting about their high status in society.

Yes..... And? We need to know this why? Are they suggesting being qualified in a good job makes them better lovers?

The message usually gets a

shortly before it meets the deleted file. "

big thumbs up to this

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple
over a year ago

bradford

Common sense counts for a lot in my book

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Amateur Boxer = un-paid

Professional Boxer = Is paid

I would guess that's a fairly new concept of the word.

Maybe there is a clue in the word itself, a professional can profess their subject?

But then they get called Professors, then if you progress up the scale you become a Mr, back where you started out.

I wonder which type of professionals are the best fuck

A couple of doctors I have met were very adventurous in bed, albeit a little dirty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"when someone asks for a professional, it usually means they are a snob and want a certain lifestyle, a bit like people wanting someone from a similar cast.

Like from the cast of a musical or a serious dramatical production?

Or the cast from last years Apprentice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's pretty obvious that professionals only on profiles means no chavs and courteous and respectful people only.

We have had many a meets inside and outside of clubs and we never actually asked for your actual job occupation!

For those having a rant then simply don't meet with people who display those messages. People are clearly not asking to fuck doctors and barristers!

Any for those who are slating people like us then please do carry on. As said earlier in the thread, we'd be happy to meet unemployed people, posties and tradesmen just no chavs.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

"i just move on to the next profile ...cant be bothered working it out "
+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After reading people for 35 years, you certainly cant go by looks.

If you have filters, and lots of preferances, you may be missing out on some great times and great people.

Life is short, why limit yourself,

We usually end up with someone opposite to what we are looking for!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional occupations are those (usually) where you have to attain membership of a recognised body such as the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors for example. Professional status is afforded to those who have passed exams and completed the required amount of work experience. Other professions as pointed out above included

Medicine

Law

Finance (Accountancy)

If the institution of which you are a member has a Royal Charter then its considered to be of high professional importance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think politicians, prime ministers and men of the clergy would all be classed as professionals,

fancy shagging them?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Incidentally, having a degree does not, by itself, make you a professional.

It's often the basis for joining a profession, though not always, but it does not give the status of professional alone.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Always find it amusing when people who don't meet certain criteria on a profile start complaining about 'discrimination'

We're on a swingers website, we aren't interviewing for jobs so people can discriminate all they want whether that be based on looks, a person's employment status, sexuality, etc etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know how many threads there have been about this professional malarky, it always goes the same way, either people writing their qualifications, which noone else is interested in, or taking the piss saying 'I'm a professional dogwalker' etc.

It is always started by those who feel irked by being excluded.

You never see a 'why can't I go to this party where there are rusting cars on the front lawn, the dress code is fake D&G sweatshirts, bring your own bottle of White lightning, don't be scared of the pitbulls - they aren't interested because they don't like the way I talk'.

Don't get arsey over exclusion. We are all excluded from someones preferences. I wouldn't be welcomed in a slim, toned and small boobs party, I wouldn't moan about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deffinition of profession

A paid occupation especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think politicians, prime ministers and men of the clergy would all be classed as professionals,

fancy shagging them?"

Theyve certainly fucked the UK

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Deffinition of profession

A paid occupation especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification

Whose definition?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of so called professionals reek of cheap snobbery "just saying" It's the person that we find interesting not their job, house, car all of which many like to brag about during meets total passion killer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't know how many threads there have been about this professional malarky, it always goes the same way, either people writing their qualifications, which noone else is interested in, or taking the piss saying 'I'm a professional dogwalker' etc.

It is always started by those who feel irked by being excluded.

Don't get arsey over exclusion. We are all excluded from someones preferences. I wouldn't be welcomed in a slim, toned and small boobs party, I wouldn't moan about it.

If I where slim and toned I would want you at my party

But mind the Rotti

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spent hours, days, months, years at a university gaining my qualifications therefore I am a professional! Plus at the same university they taught art so for having to be surrounded by art students (lazy, smoking , smelly, weird clothes/hair/attitude, ) I deserve that title

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deffinition of profession

A paid occupation especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification

Whose definition? "

English dictionary

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Deffinition of profession

A paid occupation especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification

Whose definition?

English dictionary

Which English Dictionary? There are quite a few.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deffinition of profession

A paid occupation especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification

Whose definition?

English dictionary

Which English Dictionary? There are quite a few."

Which ever ones in the I phone

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

They may do their job in a professional manner and with great skill but driving is not a profession.

i think carrying combustible chemicles down a busy motorway has a hell of more reaponsibility attached to it than fixing a PC ..but hey ho ..they areprofessional "

Neither are A profession .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a chartered surveyor, so does that me a professional?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"So what about those that have the years of education, the letters after their names etc but no longer work in that field?

For example qualified lawyer that now works as for a charity as a support worker, a job that does not require more than a secondary school education?"

He has a professional qualification but does not work in the profession that he is qualified for. He does a job. He has an occupation that is not professional .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If one needs to ask what that means, then one is unlikely to be their targeted would be playmates.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Incidentally, having a degree does not, by itself, make you a professional.

It's often the basis for joining a profession, though not always, but it does not give the status of professional alone."

Tadaaaaaaaa hoooooorayyyyyyyy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm a chartered surveyor, so does that me a professional?"

probably, you have a great arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my unprofessional opinion for the purposes of this site I would say it would be how people conducted themselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional to me means someone who is an escort and are expensive lol.

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By *ilkchocolate87Man
over a year ago

sw london

Someone who works in an office probs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who can sign your passport photos!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm a chartered surveyor, so does that me a professional?

probably, you have a great arse "

Professional ass..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"My profession is a swimming instructor but I'm not in a suit I'm either in tshirt and leggings or a swimming costume..."

That's your job .....

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Driving can be a profession e.g. Taxi driver, LGV, PCV, Military (e,g, tanks and armoured fighting vehicles), Fire, Police drivers and motorcyclists, fork lift drivers, motor sports drivers including Formula 1.

There are mandatory training requirements, fitness requirements and a licensing system; all far more stringent than a basic driving licence.

See Medical Aspects of Fitness to Drive for more information; it's available on-line through the DVLA.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been "professional" by some of the standards (I have more than a few letters after my name, not just bbw ;-p ) however I now work in the charity sector, finally doing something worthwhile to society and fulfilling to me. If people discount me for my lack of professional status (and lets face it, this is only about status, being professional does not guarantee good character) then it does me a favour as I don't have yo waste my time. Ego and arrogance are not attractive qualities.

Now must get back to my recording of Jeremy Kyle and drink my buckfast, innit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just watching a music vid with Snoop Doggy Dog...hes a professional twat!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just watching a music vid with Snoop Doggy Dog...hes a professional twat!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha this thread is too funny

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'd rather meet amateurs (in the original meaning of the word).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok your a professional when you have letters after your name that show membership of a professional association

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok your a professional when you have letters after your name that show membership of a professional association "

Not always. Im a member of the Institute Of Industrial Managers and can use the designatory letters MIIM, but I'm not classed as a professional.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Ok your a professional when you have letters after your name that show membership of a professional association

Not always. Im a member of the Institute Of Industrial Managers and can use the designatory letters MIIM, but I'm not classed as a professional."

Yep, I'm Chartered and can use letters but not a professional.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"A lot of so called professionals reek of cheap snobbery "just saying" It's the person that we find interesting not their job, house, car all of which many like to brag about during meets total passion killer.

What exactly is "cheap snobbery"?

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

the word professional can be used as a noun or an adjective.

A professional window cleaner, electrician, footballer, dustbin-man, whatever, means you do it for a living. In that context it is an adjective qualifying the noun

A "professional" used as a noun, is someone who is in a learned (pronounced lur ned) profession. E.g. law, medicine, engineering etc. It implies at least a first degree and further post graduate professional qualifications.

If you have to ask, it means you do not understand the meaning, and thus, are unlikely to be what they are looking for.

It does not have any relation to the salary one may or may not earn, it's more a level of education, articulation, refinement and discernment.

It means they want to play with people of a similar education level who are likely to be on their level in a social context.

Yes, basically, no chavs :D

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Driving can be a profession e.g. Taxi driver, LGV, PCV, Military (e,g, tanks and armoured fighting vehicles), Fire, Police drivers and motorcyclists, fork lift drivers, motor sports drivers including Formula 1.

There are mandatory training requirements, fitness requirements and a licensing system; all far more stringent than a basic driving licence.

See Medical Aspects of Fitness to Drive for more information; it's available on-line through the DVLA.

None of that makes driving a profession.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"the word professional can be used as a noun or an adjective.

A professional window cleaner, electrician, footballer, dustbin-man, whatever, means you do it for a living. In that context it is an adjective qualifying the noun

If you have to ask, it means you do not understand the meaning, and thus, are unlikely to be what they are looking for.

It does not have any relation to the salary one may or may not earn, it's more a level of education, articulation, refinement and discernment.

It means they want to play with people of a similar education level who are likely to be on their level in a social context.

Yes, basically, no chavs :D

A most eloquent repost my freind...... however a Chav can be a professional.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

And people on the same level in terms of education and refinement may not be professionals!

Ah the perils of pigeonholes.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

There are mandatory training requirements, fitness requirements and a licensing system; all far more stringent than a basic driving licence.

See Medical Aspects of Fitness to Drive for more information; it's available on-line through the DVLA.

None of that makes driving a profession."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you see ladies or couples put up this professional guys only.

What job counts as professional.

As I am a professional driver.

Your job is a driver.

A profession is a recognised body.

The word is often misused. "

a profgessionsl driver means someone who drives as a proffession.

not misused

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