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"But if they know they would be record and they ask for it" • If I'm walking down the street and pass someone who's wearing them, presumably in recording mode, how on earth did I ask for it? | |||
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"But if they know they would be record and they ask for it" These things make it very easy to record without consent. Yes, I know some people sometimes consent and there are other ways to record without consent. But why make it easier to violate someone? If people want to be filmed, ok, fine, whatever. Use a recording device so it's obvious it's happening. | |||
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"I think they probably should be banned " Yup. | |||
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"Not all people record all the time it does show on the glasses with a flashlight light to show their are recording if you see someone record ask them to stop " • I see. With that logic I'll just walk down to the shops with my penis hanging out until someone tells me to put it back in. Because, you know, the onus is on the other person to tell me as opposed to me not doing it in the first place. | |||
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"Not all people record all the time it does show on the glasses with a flashlight light to show their are recording if you see someone record ask them to stop " So you now need to inspect glasses to get people to stop recording you without your consent, rather than them just not being giant creeps? Why is the onus on me, minding my own fucking business, and not someone who wants to record? | |||
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"I think they probably should be banned " This.. Too many wrong uns around as it is, upskirting and the like.. | |||
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"I think they probably should be banned Yup." Big tech is kind of above the law 🙁 ban won't come easy. Sadly | |||
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"The thing is you will never stop people waer them and if you see someone video you do what you want i don't care you can't stop it and you can't ban them good luck " So you don't care if people have their consent violated? You seem nice. | |||
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"There's a guy on YouTube who records himself trying to chat up random women for their reaction and then uploads it. I'm assuming it's without their consent. The use of these are very disturbing." This specifically should be a criminal offence, and it would be really easy to make it one. If you want to upload pictures or videos of someone publicly, either you need a signed consent form or you need to be able to defend it as in the public interest. Otherwise, get fucked. | |||
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"There's a guy on YouTube who records himself trying to chat up random women for their reaction and then uploads it. I'm assuming it's without their consent. The use of these are very disturbing. This specifically should be a criminal offence, and it would be really easy to make it one. If you want to upload pictures or videos of someone publicly, either you need a signed consent form or you need to be able to defend it as in the public interest. Otherwise, get fucked." Yup. You might never stop the tech oligarchs, but if using these things could get you a criminal record, I bet most people would think twice. And most businesses would be reluctant to import them. I can't ban them. The government certainly can. | |||
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"Poof, he's gone lol" Well, that was eventful 😬 | |||
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"The thing is you will never stop people waer them and if you see someone video you do what you want i don't care you can't stop it and you can't ban them good luck So you don't care if people have their consent violated? You seem nice." There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded | |||
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"There's a guy on YouTube who records himself trying to chat up random women for their reaction and then uploads it. I'm assuming it's without their consent. The use of these are very disturbing. This specifically should be a criminal offence, and it would be really easy to make it one. If you want to upload pictures or videos of someone publicly, either you need a signed consent form or you need to be able to defend it as in the public interest. Otherwise, get fucked." People livestream fights and d*unk people on nights out without any legal issues. They wear go pros usually and I'm sure some wear those glasses too. As long as it's in the public domain and non are minors or nude, there is no legal reasoning for it being illegal | |||
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"The thing is you will never stop people waer them and if you see someone video you do what you want i don't care you can't stop it and you can't ban them good luck So you don't care if people have their consent violated? You seem nice. There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded " Are we rules lawyering now? I don't want to be recorded without being asked. Whether or not that's legally actionable or not. Someone who doesn't give a shit about that is showing a disregard for what other people around them want. They're a dirt bag, even if they're not a criminal. And they should be treated accordingly. | |||
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"The thing is you will never stop people waer them and if you see someone video you do what you want i don't care you can't stop it and you can't ban them good luck So you don't care if people have their consent violated? You seem nice. There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded Are we rules lawyering now? I don't want to be recorded without being asked. Whether or not that's legally actionable or not. Someone who doesn't give a shit about that is showing a disregard for what other people around them want. They're a dirt bag, even if they're not a criminal. And they should be treated accordingly." You get recorded on police vans, traffic cams and 1000s of CCTV cameras every time you leave your house. There is no way of avoiding being recorded. You are probably in the background of some videos on Instagram, Facebook or tiktok of what people have uploaded of themselves | |||
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"The thing is you will never stop people waer them and if you see someone video you do what you want i don't care you can't stop it and you can't ban them good luck So you don't care if people have their consent violated? You seem nice. There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded Are we rules lawyering now? I don't want to be recorded without being asked. Whether or not that's legally actionable or not. Someone who doesn't give a shit about that is showing a disregard for what other people around them want. They're a dirt bag, even if they're not a criminal. And they should be treated accordingly. You get recorded on police vans, traffic cams and 1000s of CCTV cameras every time you leave your house. There is no way of avoiding being recorded. You are probably in the background of some videos on Instagram, Facebook or tiktok of what people have uploaded of themselves " Security cameras exist, therefore... what? I have to be ok with people individually recording god only knows what for god only knows what use? Nope. Afraid not. The government could put a compulsory camera up my rectum, and it would make my opinion of these glasses owners no more favourable. Even if something is legal, even if everyone else is doing it, doesn't make something right. I don't know about you, but I learned that in primary school. | |||
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"You cant ban scissors & knives and doubtless most who buy have innocent reasons but that dont make carrying one right. Whereas I'm sure most want them for ego inflating bragging rights at the works water cooler chat there will be those with sinister agendas. If only one used them at a children's playground, toilets or beach to post images to their chums I wonder how many would support their legal right to do so? " Yeah, we're really getting into "bombs have legal uses and cars are useful, therefore don't look down on car bombs". Abso-fucking-lutely not. | |||
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" There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded Are we rules lawyering now? I don't want to be recorded without being asked. Whether or not that's legally actionable or not. Someone who doesn't give a shit about that is showing a disregard for what other people around them want. They're a dirt bag, even if they're not a criminal. And they should be treated accordingly. You get recorded on police vans, traffic cams and 1000s of CCTV cameras every time you leave your house. There is no way of avoiding being recorded. You are probably in the background of some videos on Instagram, Facebook or tiktok of what people have uploaded of themselves Security cameras exist, therefore... what? I have to be ok with people individually recording god only knows what for god only knows what use? Nope. Afraid not. The government could put a compulsory camera up my rectum, and it would make my opinion of these glasses owners no more favourable. Even if something is legal, even if everyone else is doing it, doesn't make something right. I don't know about you, but I learned that in primary school." The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now | |||
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"Not xondoning violence but as Boundtight said. I think there may be a few vodeos of people wearing them getting punched in the face. I do not consent to anybody videoing or taking pictures of me. Fab is ptetty much the extent of my social media pressence. I dont do facebook,snap, tiktoc or any other shite. Somebody videoing me wearing them is going to be asked politely not too. If i'm with my teenage daughter, they are going to be asked slightly differently. On a tangent as I dont know enough about them. How are the images stored? Sim card? Bluetoothed to a phone? Direct to a cloud ? How would one get the images back ?" Realistically you'd never know if you have been recorded by them. And as for the teenage daughter part of it... It is illegal to video minors so then that could be dealt with by the police | |||
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" There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded Are we rules lawyering now? I don't want to be recorded without being asked. Whether or not that's legally actionable or not. Someone who doesn't give a shit about that is showing a disregard for what other people around them want. They're a dirt bag, even if they're not a criminal. And they should be treated accordingly. You get recorded on police vans, traffic cams and 1000s of CCTV cameras every time you leave your house. There is no way of avoiding being recorded. You are probably in the background of some videos on Instagram, Facebook or tiktok of what people have uploaded of themselves Security cameras exist, therefore... what? I have to be ok with people individually recording god only knows what for god only knows what use? Nope. Afraid not. The government could put a compulsory camera up my rectum, and it would make my opinion of these glasses owners no more favourable. Even if something is legal, even if everyone else is doing it, doesn't make something right. I don't know about you, but I learned that in primary school. The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now " Something exists, therefore we can't object to it or find it antisocial. That's adorable. | |||
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" Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now Something exists, therefore we can't object to it or find it antisocial. That's adorable." It's not anti social to have a camera in public if used within the means of the law. Sure you will have 1 or 2% of customers that misuse them. But the same can be said for knives and everything in between | |||
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"The thing is you will never stop people waer them and if you see someone video you do what you want i don't care you can't stop it and you can't ban them good luck So you don't care if people have their consent violated? You seem nice. There is no consent in public unless it's children being recorded Are we rules lawyering now? I don't want to be recorded without being asked. Whether or not that's legally actionable or not. Someone who doesn't give a shit about that is showing a disregard for what other people around them want. They're a dirt bag, even if they're not a criminal. And they should be treated accordingly. You get recorded on police vans, traffic cams and 1000s of CCTV cameras every time you leave your house. There is no way of avoiding being recorded. " I am yes. Everywhere I go i am probably on cctv camera. And in reality who knows what the councils, police, shops etc do with my image. But... i'd rather be filmed by them with all their GDPR compliance than Sid the sexpest who likes to knock one out in the public toilets up the road from the primary school | |||
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" Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now Something exists, therefore we can't object to it or find it antisocial. That's adorable. It's not anti social to have a camera in public if used within the means of the law. Sure you will have 1 or 2% of customers that misuse them. But the same can be said for knives and everything in between " So the only behaviour that's antisocial is behaviour that's strictly illegal? ... Are you serious? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm not sure if you're trolling or genuinely do not understand what words mean | |||
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"The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now " I also thought people walking around with hidden gopros filming people who didn't consent to it were cunts as well though. I think most people do. | |||
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" Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now Something exists, therefore we can't object to it or find it antisocial. That's adorable. It's not anti social to have a camera in public if used within the means of the law. Sure you will have 1 or 2% of customers that misuse them. But the same can be said for knives and everything in between So the only behaviour that's antisocial is behaviour that's strictly illegal? ... Are you serious? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm not sure if you're trolling or genuinely do not understand what words mean " That is what anti social means. Like fighting is public is antisocial, causing too much noise in public is too. I'm beginning to wonder if you're trolling at this point | |||
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"The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now I also thought people walking around with hidden gopros filming people who didn't consent to it were cunts as well though. I think most people do." So bikers are too? Many wear body cams and handle bar cams for safety. You really can't see a handlebar cam at all. You also can't see car dash camera unless you're in the car | |||
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" Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now Something exists, therefore we can't object to it or find it antisocial. That's adorable. It's not anti social to have a camera in public if used within the means of the law. Sure you will have 1 or 2% of customers that misuse them. But the same can be said for knives and everything in between So the only behaviour that's antisocial is behaviour that's strictly illegal? ... Are you serious? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm not sure if you're trolling or genuinely do not understand what words mean That is what anti social means. Like fighting is public is antisocial, causing too much noise in public is too. I'm beginning to wonder if you're trolling at this point " Cambridge dictionary, because it's free "Harmful to society Increasingly smoking is regarded as an antisocial habit... Some critics argued that movies caused antisocial behaviour" Also, riddle me this. If antisocial *only* means illegal, then why do ASBOs take behaviour that would otherwise not be illegal, and subject it to criminal penalty, which has been the cause of scholarly controversy for decades? | |||
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"The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now I also thought people walking around with hidden gopros filming people who didn't consent to it were cunts as well though. I think most people do. So bikers are too? Many wear body cams and handle bar cams for safety. You really can't see a handlebar cam at all. You also can't see car dash camera unless you're in the car " If a biker is using their helmet camera to covertly film people without their permission, yes. If they're only using it to film their ride or to capture evidence in case of an incident, no. You're being a troll mate. | |||
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"Try living in china. Your whole life is analysed by AI you commit anything that isn't deep right by the AI and you're fined. The money is automatically deducted from your bank. Or a casino. Your facial expressions are analysed to make you're your wins are legitimate. You literally cannot hide from being videoed anymore " Real strong argument mate. We find it creepy and we object, therefore... Oooh China scary. | |||
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"Are people fine with being recorded and they know or is it a big turn off" A loves it | |||
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"Try living in china. Your whole life is analysed by AI you commit anything that isn't deep right by the AI and you're fined. The money is automatically deducted from your bank." Sounds like a horrible dystopia we should resist instead of bending over and slapping our collective bums saying "its inevitable, its inevitable"? | |||
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"Try living in china. Your whole life is analysed by AI you commit anything that isn't deep right by the AI and you're fined. The money is automatically deducted from your bank. Sounds like a horrible dystopia we should resist instead of bending over and slapping our collective bums saying "its inevitable, its inevitable"?" It also - as is a pattern in this thread - doesn't answer the argument that's been put to him, it just changes the subject. Sounds to me like he's conceded the following: 1. Consent can mean both legally defined and what people want 2. Just because other people do it doesn't make it ok 3. Individuals doing something is not the same as businesses doing it, particularly when the latter are bound to certain laws 4. Antisocial means more than illegal (This list may not be exhaustive) | |||
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" The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now " GoPro's are not easily concealed. They have a big handle and even if held at your side you can see them. The problem with these glasses is that they just look like normal glasses. There are many YouTube channels who use a GoPro in pubs and hotels doing reviews etc and have members of the public in the videos. But the use of these glasses to record people without their knowledge are normally used for ulterior motives. | |||
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"I've used helmet cams, it is of course to pre-empt the usual "I never saw you mate" argument. We are all filmed every day by cctv and front door & traffic cams. However none of these devices can be taken into a public toilet by a sicko following a child. Unless your working for the FBI I dont see the imperative advantage to such covert surveillance. As I said before if only one sicko used them to film your youngest in an private situation for later gratification are you still going to wave the banner of techno freedom? I'd certainly hope not but the nature of those with sinister minds will abuse this freedom and I should that unequal scenario present itself would act accordingly. " My answer to that would be who's letting adults follow kids into the toilet? If I had a kid under 14 I'd be checking the public toilet beforehand. And they wouldn't be out of my sight in public either. I've never understood people allowing their kids to roam miles ahead of them and not having a care in the world | |||
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" The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now GoPro's are not easily concealed. They have a big handle and even if held at your side you can see them. The problem with these glasses is that they just look like normal glasses. There are many YouTube channels who use a GoPro in pubs and hotels doing reviews etc and have members of the public in the videos. But the use of these glasses to record people without their knowledge are normally used for ulterior motives." Yeah, it's like saying "cameras in bedrooms have been in theory possible for fifty plus years, you can't object to my hidden camera now". Can. Do. Even if it were legal - it's antisocial. | |||
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"There are many YouTube channels who use a GoPro in pubs and hotels doing reviews etc and have members of the public in the videos." I've seen quite a few YouTube channels now blur faces in the background of these, I think that should be normalised tbh. | |||
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" The way I see it is it's just the next generation of go pro. If a gopro is positioned right you'd never see it. There is no difference to the glasses either. Wearable cameras have been a thing for decades now GoPro's are not easily concealed. They have a big handle and even if held at your side you can see them. The problem with these glasses is that they just look like normal glasses. There are many YouTube channels who use a GoPro in pubs and hotels doing reviews etc and have members of the public in the videos. But the use of these glasses to record people without their knowledge are normally used for ulterior motives." Yes I agree. The glasses do cause some issues for sure. But it's the whole a few people ruin it for everyone else. Drones have that same ability. Someone could be zoomed in on you from 100s of meters above the ground and you'd have no idea | |||
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"Drones have that same ability. Someone could be zoomed in on you from 100s of meters above the ground and you'd have no idea " "Let them violate you, because you probably have been violated before, and you just didn't know" Sorry, can't get on board with that one. | |||
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"There are many YouTube channels who use a GoPro in pubs and hotels doing reviews etc and have members of the public in the videos. I've seen quite a few YouTube channels now blur faces in the background of these, I think that should be normalised tbh." Yeah I've noticed that on some as well. I'm subscribed to few travel reviewers who do pubs, hotels and travel abroad videos. | |||
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"Are people fine with being recorded and they know or is it a big turn off" It wouldn't bother me at all. Well it's not I'm anyone famous. Besides who would want my autograph? | |||
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"Are women going around wearing them filming unsuspecting men and then uploading it to social media?" Yes, this also happens quite a lot. | |||
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"I think people are really over reacting here over nothing. I mean its just glasses." Glasses with a built in camera that can and will record any interaction you might have throughout the day, and are discrete enough that the average person won’t notice them I hate them | |||
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"I've used helmet cams, it is of course to pre-empt the usual "I never saw you mate" argument. We are all filmed every day by cctv and front door & traffic cams. However none of these devices can be taken into a public toilet by a sicko following a child. Unless your working for the FBI I dont see the imperative advantage to such covert surveillance. As I said before if only one sicko used them to film your youngest in an private situation for later gratification are you still going to wave the banner of techno freedom? I'd certainly hope not but the nature of those with sinister minds will abuse this freedom and I should that unequal scenario present itself would act accordingly. My answer to that would be who's letting adults follow kids into the toilet? If I had a kid under 14 I'd be checking the public toilet beforehand. And they wouldn't be out of my sight in public either. I've never understood people allowing their kids to roam miles ahead of them and not having a care in the world " Nonce's are everywhere, teachers, hospital staff, nursery schools and every other place where the vulnerable are. Every person that deffends this is seeing it as a restriction on their freedom but should by some chance a family member be filmed inappropriately I'm sure they'd see it differently. Just because its legal don't make it morally right. | |||
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"I've used helmet cams, it is of course to pre-empt the usual "I never saw you mate" argument. We are all filmed every day by cctv and front door & traffic cams. However none of these devices can be taken into a public toilet by a sicko following a child. Unless your working for the FBI I dont see the imperative advantage to such covert surveillance. As I said before if only one sicko used them to film your youngest in an private situation for later gratification are you still going to wave the banner of techno freedom? I'd certainly hope not but the nature of those with sinister minds will abuse this freedom and I should that unequal scenario present itself would act accordingly. My answer to that would be who's letting adults follow kids into the toilet? If I had a kid under 14 I'd be checking the public toilet beforehand. And they wouldn't be out of my sight in public either. I've never understood people allowing their kids to roam miles ahead of them and not having a care in the world " If you're a father of girls you can't go into the ladies toilets (and vice versa for mother's of boys). And once the child reaches about 6 or 7 years old then they can't really go in the opposite sexes toilets with you so this is unavoidable unless you decide never to go to a public place or make them wear nappies. | |||
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"Try living in china. Your whole life is analysed by AI you commit anything that isn't deep right by the AI and you're fined. The money is automatically deducted from your bank. Or a casino. Your facial expressions are analysed to make you're your wins are legitimate. You literally cannot hide from being videoed anymore " People will be wearing masks to go about their everyday business in 5 years time... There will be millions of donald trumps to video. | |||
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"There is a way of using wifi to capture what’s happening behind walls!!" Me lounging in my pants eating chocolate. Nothing to see here 🤣 | |||
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"you are filmed every day. Ring door bells CCTV cameras in streets, on roads and EVERY time you go into a shop Very small cameras disguised as brooches, pens etc have been available for decades - freely available online. People use their cameras to video others all the time It's just another camera ........ I don't like them but why the outrage about spectacles and not all the other stuff that came before ?" I don’t mind filming when it’s done for safety or security purposes (for example CCTV or ring door bells) but I’m sick of people filming for social media / content etc. People filming in gyms, raves, concerts and now with these glasses, will be filming people just walking down the street. | |||
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"There is a way of using wifi to capture what’s happening behind walls!! Me lounging in my pants eating chocolate. Nothing to see here 🤣" Haha you bet, that’s worth something!! Don’t underestimate yourself  | |||
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" I've never understood people allowing their kids to roam miles ahead of them and not having a care in the world Nonce's are everywhere, teachers, hospital staff, nursery schools and every other place where the vulnerable are. Every person that deffends this is seeing it as a restriction on their freedom but should by some chance a family member be filmed inappropriately I'm sure they'd see it differently. Just because its legal don't make it morally right." Really I think there should be CCTV everywhere in the school except the toilets and changing rooms. Classrooms should have cameras in them for sure. Anyone who defends them needs to be shown a wood chipper because they're just ones that either are too scared to act on their impulses or haven't been caught | |||
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"These glasses should be banned asap, and the laws need updating. Especially the law around expectations of privacy in a public place. I think it’s reasonable to expect not to be filmed and uploaded to the internet just because you walked down the street. " There is no expectation of privacy in a public space. It's public... That's like going into a big group shower and complaining that people are showing near you | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of " How do you feel about being filmed by a woman making unwelcome advances on you and then having your awkward reaction uploaded to social media? | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of " That's a very incorrect assumption. It may be a generational thing. But it's completely false to assume anyone not wanting to be filmed by strangers has something to hide. What evidence do you have to support that argument? How often is cctv used in successful prosecutions.? Does AI not render all cctv footage used for law enforcement irrelevant.? We can debate the reasonable expectation to not be filmed without consent in public places. But there's no debate to be had about all people not wishing to be so filmed having something to hide. Unless you have some evidence to back it up. | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of " What an absolute load of bollocks. | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of How do you feel about being filmed by a woman making unwelcome advances on you and then having your awkward reaction uploaded to social media?" This is why I said no pervy shit. Honestly I'd have a right laugh with it and actually make her more uncomfortable without touching her haha | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of That's a very incorrect assumption. It may be a generational thing. But it's completely false to assume anyone not wanting to be filmed by strangers has something to hide. What evidence do you have to support that argument? How often is cctv used in successful prosecutions.? Does AI not render all cctv footage used for law enforcement irrelevant.? We can debate the reasonable expectation to not be filmed without consent in public places. But there's no debate to be had about all people not wishing to be so filmed having something to hide. Unless you have some evidence to back it up. " I'm sure there are 1000s of cases a day that are solved by CCTV in the UK alone. Also AI need information to be able to do it's job. CCTV is a tool that AI needs to be able to do it's job | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of How do you feel about being filmed by a woman making unwelcome advances on you and then having your awkward reaction uploaded to social media? This is why I said no pervy shit. Honestly I'd have a right laugh with it and actually make her more uncomfortable without touching her haha " And how do you suppose a woman might feel if the roles in my scenario were switched? Do you think she would be able to make the man feel more uncomfortable or would she possibly feel differently? | |||
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"I think that the only people that don't like being filmed in public (that's just regular filming... No pervy shit) are the ones that have something to hide or won't be acting a way they want to be filmed. The average person just goes about their day walking down the street... The people that fight, steal, argue etc are the ones that don't want to be filmed. The way I see it is if you don't want to be filmed you've probably done something that makes you not want to be filmed. I have no problem being filmed going about my day, film me doing my weekly shop. I'm not doing anything that I should be ashamed of That's a very incorrect assumption. It may be a generational thing. But it's completely false to assume anyone not wanting to be filmed by strangers has something to hide. What evidence do you have to support that argument? How often is cctv used in successful prosecutions.? Does AI not render all cctv footage used for law enforcement irrelevant.? We can debate the reasonable expectation to not be filmed without consent in public places. But there's no debate to be had about all people not wishing to be so filmed having something to hide. Unless you have some evidence to back it up. I'm sure there are 1000s of cases a day that are solved by CCTV in the UK alone. Also AI need information to be able to do it's job. CCTV is a tool that AI needs to be able to do it's job " You're sure cctv solves 1000s of prosecutions per day in the UK? Right you are. | |||
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" How do you feel about being filmed by a woman making unwelcome advances on you and then having your awkward reaction uploaded to social media? This is why I said no pervy shit. Honestly I'd have a right laugh with it and actually make her more uncomfortable without touching her haha And how do you suppose a woman might feel if the roles in my scenario were switched? Do you think she would be able to make the man feel more uncomfortable or would she possibly feel differently?" But you're talking about 1% of users in whatever scenario there is to be had. That same 1% will trying to film kids, women on beaches and everything in between. I'd like to think that a man would step in if there is a woman that can clearly be seen uncomfortable. Also she can walk away | |||
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"FFS, I'm from Yorkshire and am VERY embarrassed "It's OK, we all know he doesn't speak for all of Yorkshire | |||
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"you are filmed every day. Ring door bells CCTV cameras in streets, on roads and EVERY time you go into a shop Very small cameras disguised as brooches, pens etc have been available for decades - freely available online. People use their cameras to video others all the time It's just another camera ........ I don't like them but why the outrage about spectacles and not all the other stuff that came before ? I don’t mind filming when it’s done for safety or security purposes (for example CCTV or ring door bells) but I’m sick of people filming for social media / content etc. People filming in gyms, raves, concerts and now with these glasses, will be filming people just walking down the street. " I agree. I was showering after a swim last week when I hear ..... HELLO and then a conversation taking place. It was the painters. Surely they should know not to use phones in swimming pools | |||
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" I don’t mind filming when it’s done for safety or security purposes (for example CCTV or ring door bells) but I’m sick of people filming for social media / content etc. People filming in gyms, raves, concerts and now with these glasses, will be filming people just walking down the street. I agree. I was showering after a swim last week when I hear ..... HELLO and then a conversation taking place. It was the painters. Surely they should know not to use phones in swimming pools " I watched a tiktok the other day of this woman who was in the gym changing rooms. She went on to say that on 3 separate occasions that week with 3 separate women was on a video call with their husbands/bfs and they got a full view of her tits because she was getting changed next to them | |||
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