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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " The only thing I can suggest is to get the hell out of there, I know its not that easy but you would be better off finding a job that isn't as enjoyable to do but has a safe environment. Nobody should have to put up with shit like that, you always come off on here as such a lovely person you deserve better. Out your well-being first you can always get a job that isnt exactly what you want to do and then look for a similar position somewhere elsewhere once you're in a safe space . | |||
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"Sorry OP. That sounds horrendous. I can't help in terms of locating*, but 14 years ago I left my job due to toxic environment and bullying. Had nothing lined up - so be careful - but it has worked for me. Guessing no union or HR for formal complaint. Look for another job - for your own well being. Talk to your friends to get support so that you can survive til you have another job (hope you've been out for a meal with Aviatrix)." *sorry, fab did not like whatever I chose for 'dr*gs', no idea why "locating" got substituted | |||
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"Sorry OP. That sounds horrendous. I can't help in terms of locating, but 14 years ago I left my job due to a toxic environment and bullying. Had nothing lined up - so be careful - but it has worked for me. Guessing no union or HR for a formal complaint. Look for another job - for your own well being. Talk to your friends to get support so that you can survive til you have another job (hope you've been out for a meal with Aviatrix)." Thanks We had a lovely dinner, it was fantastic to catch up with life, and then we headed to the last Central North London Social organised by Coockie. It was a Friday to remember. | |||
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"V, it's time to look for something else. Your health and happiness are more important! 🤗❤" • Sorry to hear this about this V, but I agree with Dåvinå et al. It's not your job to plug the hole in a sinking ship; I would extricate myself from that unhealthy and enervating environment as soon as possible. I also appreciate that sometimes it's not easy to give up a vocation that you love and if it's a niche job. "...but my boss asked me to have a second thought..." This somehow reminds me when employers try to engage a counter offer (obviously that's not what you've stated), as opposed to fixing their toxic environment. | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? The only thing I can suggest is to get the hell out of there, I know its not that easy but you would be better off finding a job that isn't as enjoyable to do but has a safe environment. Nobody should have to put up with shit like that, you always come off on here as such a lovely person, you deserve better. Put your well-being first, you can always get a job that isn't exactly what you want to do and then look for a similar position somewhere else once you're in a safe space." Finding a new job at my age without a previous career in this lovely country in such a prestigious place like I'm working now, sounds unlikely. This one was difficult to get. Its a big dilemma. | |||
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"I haven't worked anywhere like you describe but have had to suffer through teams where members were unstable or incompetent or highly strung due to various anxiety disorders (not an assumption, they shared this info) and it was hell. You're held ransom to the drama and disasters and absences and the only solution is to wait out them moving on or move on yourself. I did manage it eventually and am in a much better team of colleagues now. The people you work with really do make all the difference." I couldn't agree more | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " I am the boss, I wouldn't tolerate anybody whose behaviour at work was being affected by , I'd call in random drug testing. We've got one guy who I suspect is overdoing the 'roids' and he can be temperamental. Workplace drug testing doesn't detect roids abuse, his behaviour will see him off though. How long have you been there, how big is your organisation? I assume you have access to the company employee handbook? There should be a whistle-blowing policy in there. | |||
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"First route for me would be HR and a conversation with a union. Document everything. Keep a note of every meeting or conversation with bosses where you report the problem. Send emails reporting any issues. Any conversations with bosses or HR is heresay and can be denied.So if you have a conversation with bosses or HR regarding your issues, send an email the same day to who you you spoke to confirming all relevant details and thank them for their time. This keeps a permanent record of what was discussed. If things don't improve, leave. Whatever reason you can up with for not leaving is outweighed by your health and wellbeing. And bear in mind, if you report your problems, ( I wouldn't make allegations you can't prove by the way, ie drugs ), and nothing is done. Leave, Then see a solicitor about a constructive dismissal case. " Sounds idyllic but it does not work like that in my organisation. I made a report months ago and everything got harder for me. | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " Are you a stock broker does the movie The wolf of wall street ring bells with you starring Leonardo de caprio? | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? The only thing I can suggest is to get the hell out of there, I know its not that easy but you would be better off finding a job that isn't as enjoyable to do but has a safe environment. Nobody should have to put up with shit like that, you always come off on here as such a lovely person, you deserve better. Put your well-being first, you can always get a job that isn't exactly what you want to do and then look for a similar position somewhere else once you're in a safe space. Finding a new job at my age without a previous career in this lovely country in such a prestigious place like I'm working now, sounds unlikely. This one was difficult to get. Its a big dilemma. " I know its anything but easy if you feel you cant leave you might want to get some legal advice from what you have described its not just toxic it is outright illegal. If you havent already it's probably worth starting a diary and log every time something happens if you are ever going to get it sorted you need be able to show how bad it is. | |||
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"Some similarities to my work, although I joined from a rival company and they offered too much to refuse. We all have our price, the world is an expensive place. Both the bosses drink a lot and do drugs, nearly all the guys I work with drink too much and do drugs, some to a dangerous degree. The work is relentless, never a moment to rest, everything is “urgent” and has to be dealt with right now which is impossible when 3 different situations are all needing to be dealt with simultaneously. It can be hell. I have been there a year and still regret it every day when I wake up in the morning when alarm goes off. I knew I was walking into a shit show, I dug my own grave by joining. Now also because it’s such a niche skillset what I do, I will never be able to leave and earn anywhere near as much as I do now. If your skillset allows you to move, then do it. If the pay is around the same but the environment is far more enjoyable then it is worth leaving. Just find an evening away from your phone or fab, get your CV online and spend 2 hours looking for jobs. See what’s out there, get the idea into your head that one of these jobs could be amazing for you. Start applying, to quite a few that appeal to you… good luck!" Thank you for sharing. I don't feel alone in this anymore 💌 | |||
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"I've never had a work environment where drugs have come into the equation but I've worked in a few bad environments. Unfortunately, there is little you can do to change the environment, especially if you work in an industry where unions have little/no influence unless you are willing to take the risk and go as far as possible. I agree with what some others have said and the best option may be for you to change your environment and take yourself out of the situation. And I know it's a scary thing to do but there are lots of jobs that don't need specific experience or qualifications. " I do have qualifications and degrees but I changed career starting from zero recently because I love being a Chef and I'm a good one. But Im educated and mature person and I can't tolerate the normal Vocal violence in hospitality. I'm still not qualified to resist that and I won't, I'm afraid. Quitting this job is quitting my whole dream Im afraid. | |||
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"My dad always used to say that no job is worth suffering for, güerita. I know the work ethic and loyalty we have where we come from- but if it is this damaging to your health now -physical and mental- is it worth it? Is part time a consideration? Could you put in a right to request flexible working time on medical grounds? I have never understood that part of culture here that people tear chunks off each other (passively-aggresively most of the time) and 5 min later they’re chirpily asking “so you doing anything nice this weekend?” Kindly fuck off, I still have daggers in my eye sockets and will be making a voodoo doll of you, I feel like replying hahaha! Love you more 😘 | |||
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"I would be very careful, of involving HR: On the basis of who pays, the HR wage bill. If you have a close friend you could open upto. He/she might well fight your corner: Perhaps the norm of taking chunks out of people and making them feel awful. Perhaps your work environment then might change for the better? Hope so." About HR, you nailed it | |||
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"I'm not massively up to speed on the industry but is doing something along Are the lines of becoming a private chef an option? " Yes, Its a open option, but I wanted to get more experience first. Working as a Chef for only five years. | |||
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"I almost took a job in an environment like this n then I thought........ Nah ,I don't wanna be in the Police Force" | |||
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"No job is worth your health, I have worked in the building trade for over 40 years and there's not many industries as toxic as this can be but it's also full of bloody good decent folks. So whilst the idea of getting another job seems like an absolute nightmare and a ballache in the long run you'll be better off for it. So my advice GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE don't lose another minutes sleep over these assholes even if you have to get a job doing something completely different less money surely it's got to be better than the current situation? Also I'd definately be in touch with the police if drug use is that bad. Walk away and don't look back." | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " it’s a shame that you like the job and are good at it, but if there is no way you complain or change the toxic environment, I’d be looking elsewhere and get out as soon as I can. Life outside of work is stressful enough and we have the right to a decent conducive environment. | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " . Not as bad as your work situation but I had a toxic higher manager. Between 2016 - 2021 part of my working day I was allocated 2 hours a day every day to carry out a certain role. Although she could be a bit stroppy at times she generally left me alone as she could find no fault in my work. Probably because she never sat with me to understand what the role involves. She always described me as meticulous. Then from February 2021 it was does it really take you this long to do this. I am going to reduce your time to one hour a day. I sent her the email from 2016 stating I was to be allocated two hours a day and told her I had contact my union rep with a view to increase the role to three hours a day or for me to stand down. She relented but between February 2021 to April 2022 there was constant requests from her to help out on other sections which I refused. There was 2-3 occasions our rows became very verbal twice in front of other colleagues and 2-3 I walked out and called another higher manager the next day to say I wouldn’t be coming in as I did not feel right mentally. April 2022 I had a health scare nothing to do with the job but when I returned to work it was agreed with the office manager I would stand down June 2022. I did the role for 6 years and in the 4 years that I stood down so far four different people have done the role and couldn’t cope. I believe a 5th person maybe doing it soon. As for my higher manager she was moved to another office in 2024 as I was not the only person she had fallen out with over the years. | |||
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"Invest in a quality book on : Employment Law. That will save you time and money later. As people have mentioned start looking for your next position. Submit a grievance procedure, not enjoyable but necessary for your later defence. Take time off for Mental health, G.P appointment, further evidence. Then try to negotiate what you want resolved Failing that: File for Constructive dismissal, based on the dairised notes you've logged about what you have endured. IMHO. " Precisely this.. | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " Not quite the same experience as yours but I worked in a garage where it was known the owner had a HUGE alcohol problem and would think nothing of downing a bottle of Scotch each evening. So I reported him to the Police for d*unk driving - gave the Police his registration number and details of his route and time of arrival each morning .... and they were waiting for him one day. Problem solved. | |||
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" Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " Yes I’ve worked in that exact situation. In fact the boss forced one of the junior staff take it when he (jr) walked in on the boss using it in the back office. Things escalated so much that there was a permanent sense of paranoia and instability, with the owners eventually trying to oust each another. I think your only option is to leave, because it won’t change. | |||
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"Thank you for sharing your experiences and all your kind advice, here on the thread and by DM. The Forum is a great place full of lovely people. 🌷" None more lovely than you, V. Look after your health, and I hope you find a satisfactory resolution to your horrible dilemma. 🤗🌈 | |||
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" Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? Yes I’ve worked in that exact situation. In fact the boss forced one of the junior staff take it when he (jr) walked in on the boss using it in the back office. Things escalated so much that there was a permanent sense of paranoia and instability, with the owners eventually trying to oust each another. I think your only option is to leave, because it won’t change." I know | |||
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"Thank you for sharing your experiences and all your kind advice, here on the thread and by DM. The Forum is a great place full of lovely people. 🌷 None more lovely than you, V. Look after your health, and I hope You find a satisfactory resolution to your horrible dilemma. 🤗🌈" Yesterday love bombing again. But is a 💣 ready to explode at any time Thank you Davina 😘 | |||
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"I work long hours in an aggressive environment, where the use of Cocaine is the norm, I suspect. All the bosses are British and all the workers are immigrants or first-generation British. Not a generalisation, just a fact. The aggressive behaviour of the managers is killing us, there is constant public humiliation, abrupt changes of mood from extremely love bombing to insulting shouts in minutes. An insignificant detail can trigger a violent paranoid response. When these regular episodes finish, everybody seems to forget it like it never happened, and people look nice and normal. I love my work and I'm good at it, but this situation is breaking me. I'm a sensitive person and the stress is putting my mental health at risk. My defences are low also. Sick all the time but working anyway. Thinking of quitting, but my boss asked me to have a second thought (love bombing phase) Have you worked in a Cocaine madness environment? How have you faced it? Is there a solution? You can't report it. You don't have proof, but it's so evident. How to deal with that? " Have to admit, this sounds like my idea of a living hell! It's bad enough that my own mental health is up an down at the moment without being in a place where there is the cocaine rage and paranoia. I'd have to spend far more time out of that environment than in it. | |||
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