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"No. I'd prefer less visibility of him than more, due to the huge negative influence he's had on health and well-being, including of his male followers " Well said. Dangerous man indeed. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete." Absolutely rancid take | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete." So was OJ Simpson and I didn't salute him either | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete. Absolutely rancid take" If you want to ignore his career results that's up to you. You don't have to like a person to appreciate sporting prowess. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete. Absolutely rancid take If you want to ignore his career results that's up to you. You don't have to like a person to appreciate sporting prowess." I don't have to appreciate any sporting prowess if it's overwhelmed by how much of a shitty human being they are. | |||
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"Anyone seen the video of Andrew Tate sparring 60 people?" No and that vile piece of shit isn't worth a second of my time | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related." They aren't related, but you have to acknowledge them both so that people don't think he can get away with being an awful human being because he's a talented athlete which you do see examples of. | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related." You acknowledge what you like, nobody gives a shit really. I just hope the kickboxing community ostracises it, if it ever wanted to make a comeback. | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related." They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. " Hitler was an artist. | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Hitler was an artist. " And a vegetarian | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete." . He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Hitler was an artist. And a vegetarian " Now why are the veggies in it | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Hitler was an artist. And a vegetarian Now why are the veggies in it" I dunno, ask Hitler  | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Hitler was an artist. And a vegetarian Now why are the veggies in it I dunno, ask Hitler "This is the sign I needed to go vegan | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Hitler was an artist. And a vegetarian Now why are the veggies in it I dunno, ask Hitler
This is the sign I needed to go vegan"But 'cheese'......🤔🤔🤔🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. " Are they?? You're talking about your own personal respect or admiration for artists being dependent on what your values are which is legit. I used to adore Gary Glitter but not so much once I learned he was a nonce. I can change my mind on that score. What I can't do is say that getting a platinum disc (back when it was a LOT harder to do) isn't still a fantastic achievement. That's not an opinion, it's counting. | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Are they?? You're talking about your own personal respect or admiration for artists being dependent on what your values are which is legit. I used to adore Gary Glitter but not so much once I learned he was a nonce. I can change my mind on that score. What I can't do is say that getting a platinum disc (back when it was a LOT harder to do) isn't still a fantastic achievement. That's not an opinion, it's counting." So if someone is good at something it's OK to overlook abhorrent and often illegal behaviour and say 'yeah, but they're talented'? Definitely not in my mind but you're entitled to your own opinion of course. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Are they?? You're talking about your own personal respect or admiration for artists being dependent on what your values are which is legit. I used to adore Gary Glitter but not so much once I learned he was a nonce. I can change my mind on that score. What I can't do is say that getting a platinum disc (back when it was a LOT harder to do) isn't still a fantastic achievement. That's not an opinion, it's counting." Maybe it was a fantastic achievement. Does posting a thread on that get the same results? 💜 | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Hitler was an artist. And a vegetarian Now why are the veggies in it I dunno, ask Hitler
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But 'cheese'......🤔🤔🤔🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️"It goes so well with pickles | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake " That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis." Impressive in your eyes. That doesn't make something impressive in others eyes. You seem emotionally attached to him and don't want to acknowledge that others don't view his achievements the same way you do. | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related. They are in my opinion. I used to like the Lost Prophets. Jimmy Saville raised a lot of money for charity. Gary Glitter wrote some memorable songs. Sometimes you just can't separate actions and behaviour from a person, so yes....the two are related. Are they?? You're talking about your own personal respect or admiration for artists being dependent on what your values are which is legit. I used to adore Gary Glitter but not so much once I learned he was a nonce. I can change my mind on that score. What I can't do is say that getting a platinum disc (back when it was a LOT harder to do) isn't still a fantastic achievement. That's not an opinion, it's counting. So if someone is good at something it's OK to overlook abhorrent and often illegal behaviour and say 'yeah, but they're talented'? Definitely not in my mind but you're entitled to your own opinion of course. 🤷♂️" Who is overlooking their behaviour?? My point is that being a wrong-un doesn't nullify your sporting achievements. We salute the rank, not the man. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis." It’s not anecdotal it’s true. Nobody said he rigged anything. I said he selected his opponents to create a mythology. Losers like him do it all the time. | |||
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"You can’t call that bloke an Athlete .. soon we will call him what he really is .. Athlete won’t be the it.. . He won’t be able to run from the law and he can work out in the prison gym and fight me big in the showers … and good luck with that .." So by your logic, Lucas Hernandez didn't actually get 38 caps for France because he is a convicted wife beater?? | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related." What you seen to be saying is the equivalent of Jimmy saville did lots for charity or 'gary glitter' sold lots of records.. Saying they are not related to the vile beasts they were is a cop out.. Or am I reading your admiration for Tate wrong? | |||
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"You can’t call that bloke an Athlete .. soon we will call him what he really is .. Athlete won’t be the it.. . He won’t be able to run from the law and he can work out in the prison gym and fight me big in the showers … and good luck with that .. So by your logic, Lucas Hernandez didn't actually get 38 caps for France because he is a convicted wife beater??" Your argument is as stupid as your Tate is an athlete argument… Who or what the fuck does any other person good or bad have to do with my view of Tate the cunt … you can have your perverts view of the o world .. let decent people have theirs | |||
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"Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis." Based on a quick Google... John McEnroe crimes - bit of a dick on the court. Michael Jordan crimes - no official criminal activity. Andrew Tate crimes - 10 charges connected to three alleged victims, including rãpe, actual bodily harm, human trafficking and controlling prostitution for gain. Yeah. They seem comparable OP. Good shout 💜 | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis. It’s not anecdotal it’s true. Nobody said he rigged anything. I said he selected his opponents to create a mythology. Losers like him do it all the time." . A fighter doesn't select his opponents, that's what his managers and promoters do. If those people had made a lot of money by matching him against lesser opponents then you might have a point, but they didn't. Remember, most of his fight career was before any of the "celebrity" status. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis. It’s not anecdotal it’s true. Nobody said he rigged anything. I said he selected his opponents to create a mythology. Losers like him do it all the time.. A fighter doesn't select his opponents, that's what his managers and promoters do. If those people had made a lot of money by matching him against lesser opponents then you might have a point, but they didn't. Remember, most of his fight career was before any of the "celebrity" status." What fighting career? Nobody fucking knew he exhisted. He is literally only famous for being a criminal and a dickhead. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis. It’s not anecdotal it’s true. Nobody said he rigged anything. I said he selected his opponents to create a mythology. Losers like him do it all the time.. A fighter doesn't select his opponents, that's what his managers and promoters do. If those people had made a lot of money by matching him against lesser opponents then you might have a point, but they didn't. Remember, most of his fight career was before any of the "celebrity" status." And guess who managers and promoters work for? The fighter. Guess who directs them? The fighter. Guess who decided to fight or not? The fighter. You’re clearly too attached to him. I hope he lets you suck him off one day. | |||
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"You can’t call that bloke an Athlete .. soon we will call him what he really is .. Athlete won’t be the it.. . He won’t be able to run from the law and he can work out in the prison gym and fight me big in the showers … and good luck with that .. So by your logic, Lucas Hernandez didn't actually get 38 caps for France because he is a convicted wife beater?? Your argument is as stupid as your Tate is an athlete argument… Who or what the fuck does any other person good or bad have to do with my view of Tate the cunt … you can have your perverts view of the o world .. let decent people have theirs " Answer my question - did Lucas Hernandez get 38 caps for France? Yes or No? Do those caps become null and void because he is a convicted wife beater and a terrible human being? Yes or No? | |||
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"You can’t call that bloke an Athlete .. soon we will call him what he really is .. Athlete won’t be the it.. . He won’t be able to run from the law and he can work out in the prison gym and fight me big in the showers … and good luck with that .. So by your logic, Lucas Hernandez didn't actually get 38 caps for France because he is a convicted wife beater?? Your argument is as stupid as your Tate is an athlete argument… Who or what the fuck does any other person good or bad have to do with my view of Tate the cunt … you can have your perverts view of the o world .. let decent people have theirs Answer my question - did Lucas Hernandez get 38 caps for France? Yes or No? Do those caps become null and void because he is a convicted wife beater and a terrible human being? Yes or No?" Do you know what a Phyrric Victory is? | |||
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. " If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint? | |||
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint?" It isn’t controversial, I’m not even disagreeing with you about Andrew Tates kickboxing ability. I’m not one to encourage groupthink but that man has been the arbiter and figurehead of potentially the most harmful generational subculture in recent history. Why highlight anything good he’s done when he’s been responsible for so much atrocity? To make a point? | |||
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"You can’t call that bloke an Athlete .. soon we will call him what he really is .. Athlete won’t be the it.. . He won’t be able to run from the law and he can work out in the prison gym and fight me big in the showers … and good luck with that .. So by your logic, Lucas Hernandez didn't actually get 38 caps for France because he is a convicted wife beater?? Your argument is as stupid as your Tate is an athlete argument… Who or what the fuck does any other person good or bad have to do with my view of Tate the cunt … you can have your perverts view of the o world .. let decent people have theirs Answer my question - did Lucas Hernandez get 38 caps for France? Yes or No? Do those caps become null and void because he is a convicted wife beater and a terrible human being? Yes or No? Do you know what a Phyrric Victory is?" No, but I do know what a pyrrhic victory is 😃. If your argument is that it will all ultimately go bad for Tate, then I agree. What I won't agree to is that counting fight wins is dependent on whether or not I like the fighter. | |||
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint? It isn’t controversial, I’m not even disagreeing with you about Andrew Tates kickboxing ability. I’m not one to encourage groupthink but that man has been the arbiter and figurehead of potentially the most harmful generational subculture in recent history. Why highlight anything good he’s done when he’s been responsible for so much atrocity? To make a point? " He's a very bad person. We all agree on that. But I could ask why choose to shit on everything he has ever done on the basis of being a bad person. Remember it's not my opinion, it's counting | |||
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"You can’t call that bloke an Athlete .. soon we will call him what he really is .. Athlete won’t be the it.. . He won’t be able to run from the law and he can work out in the prison gym and fight me big in the showers … and good luck with that .. So by your logic, Lucas Hernandez didn't actually get 38 caps for France because he is a convicted wife beater?? Your argument is as stupid as your Tate is an athlete argument… Who or what the fuck does any other person good or bad have to do with my view of Tate the cunt … you can have your perverts view of the o world .. let decent people have theirs Answer my question - did Lucas Hernandez get 38 caps for France? Yes or No? Do those caps become null and void because he is a convicted wife beater and a terrible human being? Yes or No? Do you know what a Phyrric Victory is? No, but I do know what a pyrrhic victory is 😃. If your argument is that it will all ultimately go bad for Tate, then I agree. What I won't agree to is that counting fight wins is dependent on whether or not I like the fighter." Ok, I’m out if we’re scoring points for spelling mistakes  | |||
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint? It isn’t controversial, I’m not even disagreeing with you about Andrew Tates kickboxing ability. I’m not one to encourage groupthink but that man has been the arbiter and figurehead of potentially the most harmful generational subculture in recent history. Why highlight anything good he’s done when he’s been responsible for so much atrocity? To make a point? He's a very bad person. We all agree on that. But I could ask why choose to shit on everything he has ever done on the basis of being a bad person. Remember it's not my opinion, it's counting " BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO DO SO! Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? I think Hitler was a disgusting vile piece of shit, and NO I won't acknowledge his political or wartime achievements. | |||
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"We don’t need to acknowledge the achievements of people who’ve caused serious harm because doing so lends them legitimacy. It creates a twisted scale where talent is weighed against abuse, as if the two cancel each other out. They don’t. Celebrating a predator’s success is a slap in the face to their victims. It tells the world that what you do matters more than who you are. That’s not just wrong…It’s dangerous… and it’s cruel Andrew Tate is not a misunderstood success story. He is a walking red flag (and not the fun fictional kind in my smut books). He peddles poison to vulnerable men and boys who are desperate for purpose. He Feeds them a fucking fantasy where women are objects, empathy is weakness, and violence = respect. He wraps that up in his past titles and pretends it’s wisdom. It isn’t. The longer people keep fucking clapping for what he was, the more damage he’ll do in who he’s become" What she said | |||
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"We don’t need to acknowledge the achievements of people who’ve caused serious harm because doing so lends them legitimacy. It creates a twisted scale where talent is weighed against abuse, as if the two cancel each other out. They don’t. Celebrating a predator’s success is a slap in the face to their victims. It tells the world that what you do matters more than who you are. That’s not just wrong…It’s dangerous… and it’s cruel Andrew Tate is not a misunderstood success story. He is a walking red flag (and not the fun fictional kind in my smut books). He peddles poison to vulnerable men and boys who are desperate for purpose. He Feeds them a fucking fantasy where women are objects, empathy is weakness, and violence = respect. He wraps that up in his past titles and pretends it’s wisdom. It isn’t. The longer people keep fucking clapping for what he was, the more damage he’ll do in who he’s become" This aptly puts an end to this thread I hope on basis it’s both coherent and correct on so many levels. This thread was good for the ne thing.. blocker people with a warped sense of morals and total misunderstanding of the word athlete… Let’s get back to what FabS is good at .. being fun ! … | |||
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint? It isn’t controversial, I’m not even disagreeing with you about Andrew Tates kickboxing ability. I’m not one to encourage groupthink but that man has been the arbiter and figurehead of potentially the most harmful generational subculture in recent history. Why highlight anything good he’s done when he’s been responsible for so much atrocity? To make a point? He's a very bad person. We all agree on that. But I could ask why choose to shit on everything he has ever done on the basis of being a bad person. Remember it's not my opinion, it's counting BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO DO SO! Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? I think Hitler was a disgusting vile piece of shit, and NO I won't acknowledge his political or wartime achievements." 
How does the saying go...you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Freedom doesn't mean you can pick your own numbers to suit.
And who on earth is taking about Hitler? 🤣🤣🤣
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint? It isn’t controversial, I’m not even disagreeing with you about Andrew Tates kickboxing ability. I’m not one to encourage groupthink but that man has been the arbiter and figurehead of potentially the most harmful generational subculture in recent history. Why highlight anything good he’s done when he’s been responsible for so much atrocity? To make a point? He's a very bad person. We all agree on that. But I could ask why choose to shit on everything he has ever done on the basis of being a bad person. Remember it's not my opinion, it's counting BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO DO SO! Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? I think Hitler was a disgusting vile piece of shit, and NO I won't acknowledge his political or wartime achievements.
How does the saying go...you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Freedom doesn't mean you can pick your own numbers to suit.
And who on earth is taking about Hitler? 🤣🤣🤣
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"Andrew Tates “career” (let’s not forget that he proudly accepted the moniker of “The King of Toxic Masculinity” completely eclipsed his kickboxing career by his own design. Saying “yes but he was a good kickboxer” is utterly irrelevant. John Wayne Gacy was good at being a clown but he was better at being a serial killer. If you want to blur the lines, that's up to you. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their achievements. Personally I can't bear Donald Trump, but I will acknowledge his incredible political comeback and I would never claim that he didn't win two elections on the basis that I can't stand him. How is this a controversial viewpoint? It isn’t controversial, I’m not even disagreeing with you about Andrew Tates kickboxing ability. I’m not one to encourage groupthink but that man has been the arbiter and figurehead of potentially the most harmful generational subculture in recent history. Why highlight anything good he’s done when he’s been responsible for so much atrocity? To make a point? He's a very bad person. We all agree on that. But I could ask why choose to shit on everything he has ever done on the basis of being a bad person. Remember it's not my opinion, it's counting BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO DO SO! Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? I think Hitler was a disgusting vile piece of shit, and NO I won't acknowledge his political or wartime achievements.
How does the saying go...you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. Freedom doesn't mean you can pick your own numbers to suit.
And who on earth is taking about Hitler? 🤣🤣🤣
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"Anyone seen the video of Andrew Tate sparring 60 people?" Guy is an utter disgrace. And if you don't think so too then perhaps you are made of the same stuff which screams red flag. He is a danger to women and seems to have a cult of idiot followers. Don't give him exposure unless its to educate on how not to be. In schools they have a segment for staff in regards to child protection all about him. | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete.. He’s actually not. He finished mid level, in lightweight fights, punching down mostly against people smaller or less experienced. He isn’t an elite athlete. He’s a fake That seems anecdotal with a heavy dose of sour grapes. To rig a fight history of 43-9 (or whatever it is) from a fighter who never really made much money for his promoters, doesn't seem plausible to me. Even if you discount the stuff he's done since moving to Romania, it's still an impressive career. Seems to me that people don't want Andrew Tate to have been good at his chosen sport because they don't like Andrew Tate. John McEnroe and Michael Jordan were also consummate bell-ends in their time but nobody challenges their achievements on that basis." Just fucking wow. | |||
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"Never let a rational discussion get in the way of a good argument. On some level you have to admit a good argument is quite gratifying. Especially when it’s utterly meaningless. " Dude it's why I'm here 😎 | |||
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"Tell me your a fan of the most influential misogynist of a generation without telling me your a fan of the most influential misogynist of a generation. "... he was a great athlete though..." When you endorse a person who causes real world harm then you become a person contributing to that harm. Like David bowie fans? Like Michael Jackson fans? Like iggy pop fans? According to the angry commentators here, Michael Jackson was NOT one of the most successful musicians of his generation and did NOT win all those discs and awards because he turned out to be a kiddie fiddler. See how muddle headed that logic is? It doesn’t matter if he did. He was a predator. Same as the other vile excuses for human beings above. Andrew Tate being one of them. He gets no air time because he deserves no air. Just like all the other cunts 👍🏻 The ones I named still get air time. Same as Anthony kiddish from the rhcp. Another predator. He even wrote a song about it. " They don’t get airtime with me. Luckily most of them are dead 😘 | |||
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"But surely it's possible to acknowledge that he is a shitty human being as well as acknowledging that he is a very talented athlete. Those two things aren't related." So was Oscar Pistorius | |||
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"Absolutely vile excuse for a human being. Toxic masculinity rampant." And that's being kind. | |||
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" What you can't say is that the awards he got for his record sales are now illegitimate. Because that's not opinion, it's counting. Some people struggle to make that separation. Apparently "just wow" is a slam dunk when it comes to ignoring facts." Literally no one said any of those things. This straw man arguement is weak sauce. | |||
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"Tell me your a fan of the most influential misogynist of a generation without telling me your a fan of the most influential misogynist of a generation. "... he was a great athlete though..." When you endorse a person who causes real world harm then you become a person contributing to that harm. Like David bowie fans? Like Michael Jackson fans? Like iggy pop fans? According to the angry commentators here, Michael Jackson was NOT one of the most successful musicians of his generation and did NOT win all those discs and awards because he turned out to be a kiddie fiddler. See how muddle headed that logic is? It doesn’t matter if he did. He was a predator. Same as the other vile excuses for human beings above. Andrew Tate being one of them. He gets no air time because he deserves no air. Just like all the other cunts 👍🏻 Well you can say that your opinion of him changed and has affected your enjoyment of his music. That's your opinion and that's legit. You can say that his reputation will be forever tarnished, that's the opinion of almost everyone and that's also legit. What you can't say is that the awards he got for his record sales are now illegitimate. Because that's not opinion, it's counting. Some people struggle to make that separation. Apparently "just wow" is a slam dunk when it comes to ignoring facts. Or I could just say he’s a cunt and leave it at that. So could you? If you chose to. " Oh he's absolutely a cunt. No argument at all there. But the topic wasn't cuntyness it was a fight record. Once again - we salute the rank, nor the man | |||
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"Once again - we salute the rank, nor the man " We do not. There's very long lists of notable people that have been stripped of their accolades because of crime or morally ambiguous behaviour. When you lose a CBE or are stripped of a sports title you literally are no longer recognised for your achievements. We do not salute the rank. You do. That's the difference. | |||
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"Once again - we salute the rank, nor the man We do not. There's very long lists of notable people that have been stripped of their accolades because of crime or morally ambiguous behaviour. When you lose a CBE or are stripped of a sports title you literally are no longer recognised for your achievements. We do not salute the rank. You do. That's the difference." Agreed 💯 | |||
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"Anyone seen the video of Andrew Tate sparring 60 people? I wouldn't care about this even if Joe Bloggs sparred 60 people" You cared enough to post. | |||
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"Tell me your a fan of the most influential misogynist of a generation without telling me your a fan of the most influential misogynist of a generation. "... he was a great athlete though..." When you endorse a person who causes real world harm then you become a person contributing to that harm. Like David bowie fans? Like Michael Jackson fans? Like iggy pop fans? According to the angry commentators here, Michael Jackson was NOT one of the most successful musicians of his generation and did NOT win all those discs and awards because he turned out to be a kiddie fiddler. See how muddle headed that logic is? It doesn’t matter if he did. He was a predator. Same as the other vile excuses for human beings above. Andrew Tate being one of them. He gets no air time because he deserves no air. Just like all the other cunts 👍🏻 Well you can say that your opinion of him changed and has affected your enjoyment of his music. That's your opinion and that's legit. You can say that his reputation will be forever tarnished, that's the opinion of almost everyone and that's also legit. What you can't say is that the awards he got for his record sales are now illegitimate. Because that's not opinion, it's counting. Some people struggle to make that separation. Apparently "just wow" is a slam dunk when it comes to ignoring facts. So in your Tate sympathiser view, he is the same as McEnroe or Jordan losing their tempers on court. The guy has had multiple charges including trafficking and r**e He has a warped view and its not nearly the same. Also he no where near the level of sportsman as those 2 greats. He is a nothing. You gave no argument that can say otherwise. So by your own logic, if you agree that Donald Trump won the 2024 election, that makes you a TRUMP SYMPATHISER and means that you condone sexual abuse and criminality. See how silly that is? Did you really just type that? 🤣🤣🤣" Explain why it's not the same thing. Remember kids, it's not opinion, it's counting 😘 | |||
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"People with chips on both shoulders are evenly balanced individuals it seems Some jump to patronising at a mere whim others sit and play non existent violins to the tune of their bleeding hearts However Tate is an abhorrent excuse of a man .. if that is patronising to some or fiddle playing inducing to others …. Well good luck with that. This thread is vitriolic as the person it’s about zzz that sort of sums it up… vile … Now where’s my nano fiddle .. lol " I know what you mean but it’s like a car crash, I can’t stop coming back to it. Incel subculture is something I feel very strongly about though, that’s not bleeding heart cynicism. | |||
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"It's inception level whataboutery all wrapped up in a strawman planted on top of a hill that a certain someone is absolutely going to die on for no other reason to prove something he made up to win an arguement nobody else made. It's a beautiful thing I fucking love the internet. AHH ..so you now realise that counting fight wins isn't dependent on how angry you feel. Well done. I will take that as my own personal win and wish you all a great weekend xxx" I genuinely envy your commitment and determination. | |||
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"People with chips on both shoulders are evenly balanced individuals it seems Some jump to patronising at a mere whim others sit and play non existent violins to the tune of their bleeding hearts However Tate is an abhorrent excuse of a man .. if that is patronising to some or fiddle playing inducing to others …. Well good luck with that. This thread is vitriolic as the person it’s about zzz that sort of sums it up… vile … Now where’s my nano fiddle .. lol I know what you mean but it’s like a car crash, I can’t stop coming back to it. Incel subculture is something I feel very strongly about though, that’s not bleeding heart cynicism." They came for my gaming culture and I did not speak. | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts" but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? | |||
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"People with chips on both shoulders are evenly balanced individuals it seems Some jump to patronising at a mere whim others sit and play non existent violins to the tune of their bleeding hearts However Tate is an abhorrent excuse of a man .. if that is patronising to some or fiddle playing inducing to others …. Well good luck with that. This thread is vitriolic as the person it’s about zzz that sort of sums it up… vile … Now where’s my nano fiddle .. lol I know what you mean but it’s like a car crash, I can’t stop coming back to it. Incel subculture is something I feel very strongly about though, that’s not bleeding heart cynicism. They came for my gaming culture and I did not speak." It all happens online in the most elaborate and impenetrable echo chamber I’ve ever heard of. Very enticing for a depressed, dejected and insecure young man in a hostile and shallow world. | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ?" Bwahaha brilliant | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Bwahaha brilliant" It is tho it’s about Andrew Tate sparring 60 people in a row it’s not about his personality | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people " A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know?" Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row" The problem is that he is a toxic human trafficking r*pist. So most people couldn't give a shit about his sparring record. Low hanging fruit and all that. | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row The problem is that he is a toxic human trafficking r*pist. So most people couldn't give a shit about his sparring record. Low hanging fruit and all that." The thread is about him sparring 60 people in a row not his criminal activities. If I wanted to discuss his crimes the thread would be about Tate and his crimes | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row He’s a cunt " Well done captain obvious | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row The problem is that he is a toxic human trafficking r*pist. So most people couldn't give a shit about his sparring record. Low hanging fruit and all that. The thread is about him sparring 60 people in a row not his criminal activities. If I wanted to discuss his crimes the thread would be about Tate and his crimes " Is this your first time on the internet? | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row And Bonnie Blue...............? " Completely irrelevant to my thread | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row And Bonnie Blue...............? That definitely wasn’t sparring " Lol, no, but if its body counting...... | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row And Bonnie Blue...............? That definitely wasn’t sparring Lol, no, but if its body counting......" I’d love it if Bonnie Blue was also an accomplished kickboxer. Then we’d be straight back to square one 🤣 | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row And Bonnie Blue...............? That definitely wasn’t sparring Lol, no, but if its body counting...... I’d love it if Bonnie Blue was also an accomplished kickboxer. Then we’d be straight back to square one 🤣" Bonnie Blue Vs Andrew Tate 😂 | |||
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"(boxing compere voice) And in the red (pill) corner is AAAAaandrewwwww TAAAAAAAATE In the Blue corner it's BONNIEEEEEE" Completely irrelevant | |||
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"I've seen Steven Seagal take out 10 men too. Absolute GOAT." The thread isn’t about Steven Seagal movies it’s about a recent video of Tate sparring 60 people | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row And Bonnie Blue...............? Andrew Tate and Bonnie Blue should get a room. Two sick fucks are perfect for each other " Not really relevant I don’t want to hear about bonnie blue is my threads | |||
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"I don't want to even click to watch it tbh. Having seen him I pretty much know it's absolute nonsense. If that were the case he would be in the UFC or any other organisations. He's not." Doesn’t make any sense whatsoever you don’t have to be in the ufc to spar 60 people. Tate was a kick-boxing champ of a b-level organisation nothing to do with the ufc | |||
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"The thread is meant to be about fitness and martial arts but it’s titled ‘Andrew Tate’ ? Yes Andrew Tate sparring 60 people A thread about Andrew Tate is always going to descend into a thread about Andrew Tate. If I do a thread about Mason Greenwood I can’t be upset when people start complaining about Mason Greenwood? You know? Well I was hoping people would ignore the other stuff and stay on topic. He sparred 60 people in a row And Bonnie Blue...............? Andrew Tate and Bonnie Blue should get a room. Two sick fucks are perfect for each other Not really relevant I don’t want to hear about bonnie blue is my threads You'd rather gush over Andrew Tate's "physical prowess" "Nice straw man lil bro, no I wanted to discuss a recent sparring video quit detailing it’s pathetic | |||
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete." Andrew Tate has and never will have rank | |||
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Nice straw man lil bro, no I wanted to discuss a recent sparring video quit detailing it’s pathetic
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"We salute the rank, not the man. Whatever you think of him, he's a very talented athlete. Andrew Tate has and never will have rank " His rank is champ of b level kick boxing organisation. Dj Mighty Mouse says his kick boxing is legit enough said | |||
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Nice straw man lil bro, no I wanted to discuss a recent sparring video quit detailing it’s pathetic
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The fact you’re a 40 yr old out of shape man crying about Tate speaks volumes "🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh dear. Thanks for proving my point | |||
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"I've seen Steven Seagal take out 10 men too. Absolute GOAT. The thread isn’t about Steven Seagal movies it’s about a recent video of Tate sparring 60 people " It has about the same credence. | |||
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Nice straw man lil bro, no I wanted to discuss a recent sparring video quit detailing it’s pathetic
The fact you didn't think this would happen speaks volumes about you
The fact you’re a 40 yr old out of shape man crying about Tate speaks volumes "Anyone that wants to talk about Tate in anything other than a negative manner is pretty peculiar! | |||
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