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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey

Hello just wanted to ask this here and get peoples opinion on this topic. Some guy say yet but when it come to these it don’t matter how many they have

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago

I don’t get what it has to do with someone else

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By *hil most chillMan
10 weeks ago

London, South East & Europe

Makes no difference to me!

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By *olyGlamorousWoman
10 weeks ago

Altrincham

Isn't that what the site is about...

So your tally shouldn't matter to anyone but yourself

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
10 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).

Buying into shit like "body count", tells me everything I need to know.

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By *eroLondonMan
10 weeks ago

Mayfair

I'm only interested in the quality of that body count.

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends

To the misogynists it does.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
10 weeks ago

Herts/Beds/Leeds/London

If someone asks about your body count just tell them they won’t be adding to it.

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By *eltCuteMightDeleteWoman
10 weeks ago

Reading

I find how many people have had sex with interesting (because my figure was 1 for most of my adult life!) but it literally means nothing. And anyone that thinks different probably hates women.

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By *dalisqueWoman
10 weeks ago

land of make believe

Block is the only response to that kind of question.

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche

It's definitely one of many factors that play a part in my level of interest in a person.

It's not really something you can ever politely ask.

It's not something you could ever have any way of knowing whether or not to believe the answer you might get.

People will lie to make it seem higher or lower depending on the audience.

Setting any sense of 'judgement' aside, it's just another filter for common interests/likes.

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By *orbidden eastMan
10 weeks ago

london dodging electric bikes

If you’re on here, it doesn’t really matter though that’s it. As long as you two get along and you can have a laugh at the same time it’s all good 🤷‍♂️

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"If someone asks about your body count just tell them they won’t be adding to it. "

This is very true

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche

Lots answering above are only looking at this as referencing the female player's body count.

If we're gonna talk about it as a topic let's mention that men have a 'body count' too.

That's where the hypocrisy lives.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

It matters to some people.

I find the opinions of those people don't matter to me 💜

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"Lots answering above are only looking at this as referencing the female player's body count.

If we're gonna talk about it as a topic let's mention that men have a 'body count' too.

That's where the hypocrisy lives."

I’m trying to get everyone opinion on this. It’s not just on here that I get asked this it’s in day-to-day life especially on dates

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago

If it's people she's killed, yes

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By *iss.BellaWoman
10 weeks ago

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Everyone has personal preferences. In my mind, the less I put on my profile the less people can comment on it / me 🤷‍♀️

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
10 weeks ago

Manchester(ish).


"Lots answering above are only looking at this as referencing the female player's body count.

If we're gonna talk about it as a topic let's mention that men have a 'body count' too.

That's where the hypocrisy lives.

I’m trying to get everyone opinion on this. It’s not just on here that I get asked this it’s in day-to-day life especially on dates "

None of your chuffing business is a valid reply.

Where did you get your outlandish ideas from is another.

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By *adtaffladMan
10 weeks ago

Rhyl

I have never understood why some men have a problem with a woman's body count. A its her business and b experience is better

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By *peedyGMan
10 weeks ago

Telford

It doesn't matter at all to me.

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche


"Lots answering above are only looking at this as referencing the female player's body count.

If we're gonna talk about it as a topic let's mention that men have a 'body count' too.

That's where the hypocrisy lives.

I’m trying to get everyone opinion on this. It’s not just on here that I get asked this it’s in day-to-day life especially on dates "

It's definitely something people use to judge a person by. When in reality it's no reflection on their character.

Of course there are shitty people doing triple digits. There are shitty people in double and single digits.

There's all sorts of shitty people I'd swerve as a date or otherwise with low/zero sexual experience.

In response to a jokey status I posted, a guy on here just last week tried to tell me what kind of guys be on fab. That I'd not find a good or great guy on here.... I flipped it round to ask him what that said about him. Cue more BS 🙄 Some people live in a bubble

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By *orphia2003Woman
10 weeks ago

Tonypandy.

Nobody's business unless I'm currently sleeping bareback (Which I'm not) Then it becomes informed consent for any parties involved.

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago

I’ve had sex with women of all sizes, it makes no difference to me whatsoever.

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By *hickthighs25Woman
10 weeks ago

Stockton

Everyones different personally id be more bothered about the quality of the body count not the quantity

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By *eroLondonMan
10 weeks ago

Mayfair


"Hello just wanted to ask this here and get peoples opinion on this topic. Some guys say yes but when it come to these it don’t matter how many they have "

Those "Some guys" aren't worth a tuppence of anyone's time. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

10 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

No. Not in the slightest.

And as I couldn't care less what said number is I'd never dream.of asking the question. None of my business and doesn't affect a thing. 🤷‍♂️

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By *emonbuttercreamWoman
10 weeks ago

Dublin

I honestly don’t think the number of sexual partners matters that much on its own. However, it does matter in the context of how someone approaches sex especially when it comes to sexual health. If someone is being reckless, that is a big concern for me. And if I was looking for something serious, I might question if they were emotionally ready for that.

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends

The even more dangerous ones ask if you’ve ever been with a ⚫️ guy before

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By *adtaffladMan
10 weeks ago

Rhyl


"Hello just wanted to ask this here and get peoples opinion on this topic. Some guys say yes but when it come to these it don’t matter how many they have

Those "Some guys" aren't worth a tuppence of anyone's time. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds."

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By *ndymac888Man
10 weeks ago

Dumbarton

It’s more nuanced than yes or no.

If your choosing a life partner then yeah, not the bodies themselves maybe but it’s a history of behaviour that you might not be compatible with.

I was really promiscuous in my 20s and it affected my relationships with the woman I wanted something deeper with. As in they simply didn’t see me as something serious just the reliable guy to fill the time in between relationships.

There is also plenty of people on here that are put of by verifications, not the numbers themselves maybe but the idea of becoming another faceless notch on the metaphorical bed post.

So yeah it’s totally ok to have a preference about body counts each to their own.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford

For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

10 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


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In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

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This is the kind of view that irks me.

Why can't women enjoy sex as much as men if they're not looking for a relationship at that particular time? Why do they need to be judged as doing something wrong, choosing the wrong person or not being 'loyal'?

And the assumption that women lie about it is quite offensive. Maybe if some men didn't raise the question with a preconceived notion that a particular number was a cut off point then there'd be no worry on their part that a woman wasn't being honest? How would you even know if they were fudging a number? 🤔

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


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In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

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Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

It only matters if the police find the patio OP.

“Body count” really isn’t how I see the people I’ve had le sex with. It’s also no one else’s business but mine 😘

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By *ouble-SidedCouple
10 weeks ago

Voldsøy


"I find how many people have had sex with interesting (because my figure was 1 for most of my adult life!) but it literally means nothing. And anyone that thinks different probably hates women."

Yeah, I can still count mine on one hand. I've always had FWB's or long-term, monogamous relationships. 🤷‍♀️

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman. "

The job analogy is both untrue and inappropriate in this context 👍🏻

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By *verageHoesCouple
10 weeks ago

Leeds


"For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman. "

I enjoyed reading about the sweetcorn in the plughole more than I enjoyed reading this.

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By *ealitybitesMan
10 weeks ago

Belfast

It matters to me up to a point but only because my starting point when I joined was so low and is still in single figures 9 years later.

I'm only interested in meeting women on a similar journey to my own and therefore wouldn't be compatible with someone who was much more experienced.

Beyond that I don't have any issue with how many people someone else has had sex with.

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By *ootnootboopCouple
10 weeks ago

Cheshire

Couldn't give any less of a hoot about body counts to be fair!

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche

I married my first and was married 20+ years. I've explored my wishlist with a very select few. My number is therefore very low. But I have connected with people who had higher numbers. One behaved poorly and is a regret. Another is my most favourite ever.

Can't compare the two.

It's never what you do it's how you do it.

It's different considerations for different intentions. What are you looking for? Will you be content with xyz or need to be open/poly. It's lots of filters. It's not a cat using up their 9 lives each time they connect with a new person.

Nor is it a body getting saggy or stretched out from more cocks. If that were true all the pious good living old marrieds fkg daily or weekly would be saggy af.

It's your character and judgement.

Are you being safe? Am I safe with you?

Will you be genuine with me?

Are we aligned?

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman. "

Oof.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF

Just lie hahaha

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


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In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

This is the kind of view that irks me.

Why can't women enjoy sex as much as men if they're not looking for a relationship at that particular time? Why do they need to be judged as doing something wrong, choosing the wrong person or not being 'loyal'?

And the assumption that women lie about it is quite offensive. Maybe if some men didn't raise the question with a preconceived notion that a particular number was a cut off point then there'd be no worry on their part that a woman wasn't being honest? How would you even know if they were fudging a number? 🤔"

The point of body count for women is different for many men. There are a lot of men that will make pornstars as their wife. Look at Riley Reid after all... Multi award winning pornstar and has a husband and at least one kid.

A lot of women also look down on men with high body counts. At least that's what they say.

Men with high body counts tend to be very good looking and/or very successful. This means that he has the pick, just like women have the pick of men.

How many women do you see on yachts, private planes, VIP sections of clubs and events just because they know a guy and are attractive?

Men will never have that kind of market value unless he has the above mentioned traits. And even then there will be a man that gets more attention than him for various reasons.

This is not meant to come across as bitter as I am not. People will choose who they choose.

Women have biased opinions on men as men have on women.

Women tend to think that all men are fucking women left and right because they see a select amount of men doing that. The average guy will have maybe 5/10 women in his life if he's lucky.

And the number of male virgins in their 20s is growing too

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West

Until January 2023 I'd had PIV sex with precisely two people. A one night stand where I lost my virginity and my husband. Since then that number has increased, probably beyond what some here would consider 'acceptable'. I've had a bloody amazing time with men and women one to one and in groups. Is my worth really any different? Really?

This place can be so fucking judgey considering it's purpose 🤣

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman.

The job analogy is both untrue and inappropriate in this context 👍🏻"

Explain please

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"To the misogynists it does. "

She asks if I miss her I tell her that I never miss.

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"Until January 2023 I'd had PIV sex with precisely two people. A one night stand where I lost my virginity and my husband. Since then that number has increased, probably beyond what some here would consider 'acceptable'. I've had a bloody amazing time with men and women one to one and in groups. Is my worth really any different? Really?

This place can be so fucking judgey considering it's purpose 🤣"

So cross my grammar went to shit.

Its not it's

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By *ouble-SidedCouple
10 weeks ago

Voldsøy


"To the misogynists it does.

She asks if I miss her I tell her that I never miss. "

Bullseye! 🎯

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"Until January 2023 I'd had PIV sex with precisely two people. A one night stand where I lost my virginity and my husband. Since then that number has increased, probably beyond what some here would consider 'acceptable'. I've had a bloody amazing time with men and women one to one and in groups. Is my worth really any different? Really?

This place can be so fucking judgey considering it's purpose 🤣

So cross my grammar went to shit.

Its not it's"

No need to correct yourself. We know you’re smart ❤️

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


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In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow. "

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

10 weeks ago

East Sussex

It matters to an awful lot of people. Some don't realise until they're faced with it.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman.

The job analogy is both untrue and inappropriate in this context 👍🏻

Explain please "

Job placements in close succession could be interim work, change of location, terrible employer etc etc. They are no longer a “terrible affliction” instead can be a sign of adaptability, resilience and change management.

As there are no longer lifetime careers with guaranteed pensions, there are many different approaches to work.

In terms of it being inappropriate your diatribe basically likened “body count” to “job-hopping”

Not appropriate. Out of context and tbh I hope you can see it as such. If not, enjoy my explanation to you 👍🏻

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way "

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

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By *ansoffateMan
10 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

If she has a thousand-yard stare it may be relevant.

Maybe check if the basement door is locked or there is a very new looking patio.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens. "

I like that he'd judge men the same way, except it's special when men do it because it's hard for them, or something 💜

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford

When it comes down to it... People have drastically different views on sex and number of partners based on their life experience. As the years have gone on the sexual stigma has definitely changed. Women are more free to do what they please sexually and more men are going along with it.

The swingers scene wouldn't be so big after all and there wouldn't be a huge number of couples that are looking to share that kind of lifestyle.

But I'd say that's more in the minority of the world population. Sure a woman's single lifestyle is her's to live just like a man's but... As this opinion is the minority of the world population the majority will still hold more traditional values.

This is why we have a huge dating problem. Men are literally walking away from ever dating in their lives all in huge numbers for various reasons that are too in depth to fill a thread with (you don't have to look far on the internet to find out the reasons why).

I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"When it comes down to it... People have drastically different views on sex and number of partners based on their life experience. As the years have gone on the sexual stigma has definitely changed. Women are more free to do what they please sexually and more men are going along with it.

The swingers scene wouldn't be so big after all and there wouldn't be a huge number of couples that are looking to share that kind of lifestyle.

But I'd say that's more in the minority of the world population. Sure a woman's single lifestyle is her's to live just like a man's but... As this opinion is the minority of the world population the majority will still hold more traditional values.

This is why we have a huge dating problem. Men are literally walking away from ever dating in their lives all in huge numbers for various reasons that are too in depth to fill a thread with (you don't have to look far on the internet to find out the reasons why).

I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending. "

Double double wow!!!

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens. "

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet "

Did Sydney University give you this data?

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending. "

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet "

And you see your own hypocrisy here? Searching for threesomes and yet decrying the worth of the women you'd do that with. 🤯🤯🤯

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"When it comes down to it... People have drastically different views on sex and number of partners based on their life experience. As the years have gone on the sexual stigma has definitely changed. Women are more free to do what they please sexually and more men are going along with it.

The swingers scene wouldn't be so big after all and there wouldn't be a huge number of couples that are looking to share that kind of lifestyle.

But I'd say that's more in the minority of the world population. Sure a woman's single lifestyle is her's to live just like a man's but... As this opinion is the minority of the world population the majority will still hold more traditional values.

This is why we have a huge dating problem. Men are literally walking away from ever dating in their lives all in huge numbers for various reasons that are too in depth to fill a thread with (you don't have to look far on the internet to find out the reasons why).

I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending. "

Women are often called slags for having a sex life. I think you'll find men get away with being called a legend for the more women they've fucked. For some reasons people think of women have a lot of sex our holes gape like an old leather boot lol.

Women are finding they are becoming more free to fuck who they want and don't want to settle.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet "

But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche


"

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet "

In dating... interesting.

What's your aim on here then?

Who is your target demographic?

You don't have to answer.

Just always so curious how guys have the madonna/whore attitude.

Fk the 'whores' then marry the sweet, clean-sheet girl.

Then return to fkg and cheating coz they married a bad sexual match.

And it's NOT FAIR to them to live with a sexless marriage 😭😭

Wahhhhh wahhhh wahhhhh!

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By *igR93Man
10 weeks ago

Sarcasm City

If you care about body count maybe fab is a bad place for you 😂

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

I like that he'd judge men the same way, except it's special when men do it because it's hard for them, or something 💜"

Oh no. I definitely look down on men that do the same thing. They have the pick sure. But there are many men in that same level of attractiveness that choose not to as well.

The men that sleep with lots of women tend to not treat all the women the best.

I've had female friends at uni which have literally been in tears and felt used when the guy has gone home with them from a club, had sex and then within the same half an hour tried to hook up with her roommate and then say. "What did you think? We were doing to get married?"

I view men in the same lens as women. Sure it's maybe 20% of men that are viewed in that lense. But it would also be 100% if it was 100% of men doing that. I'm not saying it's 100% of women either but it is a higher percentage as the generations go on

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

In dating... interesting.

What's your aim on here then?

Who is your target demographic?

You don't have to answer.

Just always so curious how guys have the madonna/whore attitude.

Fk the 'whores' then marry the sweet, clean-sheet girl.

Then return to fkg and cheating coz they married a bad sexual match.

And it's NOT FAIR to them to live with a sexless marriage 😭😭

Wahhhhh wahhhh wahhhhh!"

*Standing ovation* GIF

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜"

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

And you see your own hypocrisy here? Searching for threesomes and yet decrying the worth of the women you'd do that with. 🤯🤯🤯"

Not at all. As I've mentioned above, those women are more than welcome to live life as they please. I don't judge those women for have a relationship like that nor do I think any different of the men that choose to live that way. Everyone is an individual and have their own way of living life. Are there a few things that I would like to experience? Sure.

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"For me... It depends on the connection I want with a woman. On here I don't care.

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

People say that it's just as bad for a man to have a high body count than a woman. But... All a woman has to do is open her legs and ask for it. A woman could go on a night out tonight and have 10 guys around her in a bedroom. Bonnie blue proved this after all.

Where as for a man... For him to have that 10 women around him, he'd have to be a billionaire on a yacht or a celebrity status figure.

The average Joe, or even above average joe is never going to have sexual market value as a woman.

The job analogy is both untrue and inappropriate in this context 👍🏻"

I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought that. Wasn’t really a helpful comment

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By *ansoffateMan
10 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

In dating... interesting.

What's your aim on here then?

Who is your target demographic?

You don't have to answer.

Just always so curious how guys have the madonna/whore attitude.

Fk the 'whores' then marry the sweet, clean-sheet girl.

Then return to fkg and cheating coz they married a bad sexual match.

And it's NOT FAIR to them to live with a sexless marriage 😭😭

Wahhhhh wahhhh wahhhhh!"

🚑 Whaaambulance on it's way. oh wait there's a 12 hour wait we will have to get a 🚕 Driver.

Someone should clean the scum off these streets! 😆

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

10 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"

In dating I see a woman's sexual history like a CV of their life.

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Although if it didn't matter women wouldn't lie about it.

This is the kind of view that irks me.

Why can't women enjoy sex as much as men if they're not looking for a relationship at that particular time? Why do they need to be judged as doing something wrong, choosing the wrong person or not being 'loyal'?

And the assumption that women lie about it is quite offensive. Maybe if some men didn't raise the question with a preconceived notion that a particular number was a cut off point then there'd be no worry on their part that a woman wasn't being honest? How would you even know if they were fudging a number? 🤔

The point of body count for women is different for many men. There are a lot of men that will make pornstars as their wife. Look at Riley Reid after all... Multi award winning pornstar and has a husband and at least one kid.

A lot of women also look down on men with high body counts. At least that's what they say.

Men with high body counts tend to be very good looking and/or very successful. This means that he has the pick, just like women have the pick of men.

How many women do you see on yachts, private planes, VIP sections of clubs and events just because they know a guy and are attractive?

Men will never have that kind of market value unless he has the above mentioned traits. And even then there will be a man that gets more attention than him for various reasons.

This is not meant to come across as bitter as I am not. People will choose who they choose.

Women have biased opinions on men as men have on women.

Women tend to think that all men are fucking women left and right because they see a select amount of men doing that. The average guy will have maybe 5/10 women in his life if he's lucky.

And the number of male virgins in their 20s is growing too "

I'd say my'bidy countries more than likely higher than average.

I'm not particularly good looking. I've had fuck all hair since my 20's, haven't been in a gym since I had to quit playing rugby around the same time. I don't exercise, my diet sucks and I have a battered and scarred body.

Nor have I ever been 'successful' in a career sense. Never been a massive earner and I pretty much live hand to mouth most months now.

I've been married three times. They ended for various reasons.

The notion that women are just interested in looks, status and money are quite frankly hilarious. Whether it's for short term company or long term relationships.

This kind of theory is exactly what is causing young men to behave the way they do. It's wrong, it's dangerous and it should be shouted down at every opportunity. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😬😬

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By *rHotNottsMan
10 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Lots answering above are only looking at this as referencing the female player's body count.

If we're gonna talk about it as a topic let's mention that men have a 'body count' too.

That's where the hypocrisy lives.

I’m trying to get everyone opinion on this. It’s not just on here that I get asked this it’s in day-to-day life especially on dates "

That’s a weird q to ask on a date. I’ve been asked how many others I’m speaking to but only because she’s cautious of guys not seeing others

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"When it comes down to it... People have drastically different views on sex and number of partners based on their life experience. As the years have gone on the sexual stigma has definitely changed. Women are more free to do what they please sexually and more men are going along with it.

The swingers scene wouldn't be so big after all and there wouldn't be a huge number of couples that are looking to share that kind of lifestyle.

But I'd say that's more in the minority of the world population. Sure a woman's single lifestyle is her's to live just like a man's but... As this opinion is the minority of the world population the majority will still hold more traditional values.

This is why we have a huge dating problem. Men are literally walking away from ever dating in their lives all in huge numbers for various reasons that are too in depth to fill a thread with (you don't have to look far on the internet to find out the reasons why).

I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Women are often called slags for having a sex life. I think you'll find men get away with being called a legend for the more women they've fucked. For some reasons people think of women have a lot of sex our holes gape like an old leather boot lol.

Women are finding they are becoming more free to fuck who they want and don't want to settle.

"

Yes and that is just immature guys that don't know what they're talking about.

And having done research into the difference of opinions in men and women over body count.

It all comes down to the amount of work a man has to put in Vs the amount of work a man has to put in.

If an average women wants to get with a guy that is her type, she doesn't really have to look far on a night out and she'll have that guy if she's purely looking for sex.

But for a man, he'd probably not even have any chance at all with the girl of his type unless he has done what I have mentioned above.

Should the woman be put down for that? No as that's the way she wants to live her life. If she wants to have sex with 100 guys in a years. So be it. But not all men will want a woman with. Just like there are plenty of women out there that will reject the same in a man. I have had these conversations with women before

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️"

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"

In a job you're more likely to be rejected if you have a lot of job placements in a short amount of time. It shows that you aren't loyal to one place or that you aren't good at holding a job down for whatever reason.

Wow. This analogy. Just wow.

What's wrong with it? Genuine question. I would also view a guy the same way

You're basically saying that sex with lots of people within a short period of time equals disloyal or not good at relationships. It's just not true. It's total bullshit in fact and entirely a monogamous lens.

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?"

No. I ask about their sexual health.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise "

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Yes... In dating I am a monogamous person. As is I'd guess 90% of the planet

In dating... interesting.

What's your aim on here then?

Who is your target demographic?

You don't have to answer.

Just always so curious how guys have the madonna/whore attitude.

Fk the 'whores' then marry the sweet, clean-sheet girl.

Then return to fkg and cheating coz they married a bad sexual match.

And it's NOT FAIR to them to live with a sexless marriage 😭😭

Wahhhhh wahhhh wahhhhh!"

By no means am I aiming to rack up a roster of notches. I am very picky with who I have sex with and especially with who I date.

My aim here is mainly just to have a 2 girl threesome really and have a few (not 20 or 50) encounters. Maybe have a fwbs as that would suit me more than having 100 women in a year.

Would make me a bit of a hypocrite to judge my future gf on the same basis if I was no better.

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche


"Lots answering above are only looking at this as referencing the female player's body count.

If we're gonna talk about it as a topic let's mention that men have a 'body count' too.

That's where the hypocrisy lives.

I’m trying to get everyone opinion on this. It’s not just on here that I get asked this it’s in day-to-day life especially on dates

That’s a weird q to ask on a date. I’ve been asked how many others I’m speaking to but only because she’s cautious of guys not seeing others "

This is a more relevant question for sure. Along with sexual health.

What's happening in the guys life now that would affect me.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?"

I don't think I've ever dated someone who asked the question. I've never asked it of any of my partners 💜

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By *quirrel!Man
10 weeks ago

L

I’m still a virgin, I have no comparison! 🤷🏼‍♂️

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

10 weeks ago

East Sussex

If someone asked me I would be able to give a number. Not that I'd tell them if I did know

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By *ildTimes.Man
10 weeks ago

Wherever I May Roam


"To the misogynists it does.

She asks if I miss her I tell her that I never miss. "

Did you just reply to yourself? 😂😂😂 🥪

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan
10 weeks ago

belfast

Nope. Nothing to do with anyone but her.

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"I’m still a virgin, I have no comparison! 🤷🏼‍♂️"

A man of principles and values. Amen.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
10 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"I’m still a virgin, I have no comparison! 🤷🏼‍♂️"

Jesus loves you ♥️

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?"

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy. "

Dating apps are a way of controlling who you want to date, reading them before you meet them. We don't all want to get attention in our everyday activities like going to the gym at work or socialising.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?

I don't think I've ever dated someone who asked the question. I've never asked it of any of my partners 💜"

I reality you don't have have to outright ask the question. You know within a few dates really.

This is both for men and women. People with higher counts are more likely to run the bedroom on the first date or when they're texting are more likely to sexualise the conversation faster than those that are less experienced let's say

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy. "

I'm really not sure what your point is.

That more people are finally realising how much better life is without a codependent relationship basis is an absolutely wonderful thing as far as I'm concerned.

You said you'd seen evidence against men preferring online and women preferring in person as a general thing within dating, I was asking about that.

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?

I don't think I've ever dated someone who asked the question. I've never asked it of any of my partners 💜

I reality you don't have have to outright ask the question. You know within a few dates really.

This is both for men and women. People with higher counts are more likely to run the bedroom on the first date or when they're texting are more likely to sexualise the conversation faster than those that are less experienced let's say "

You have no actual evidence to back that do you?

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy.

Dating apps are a way of controlling who you want to date, reading them before you meet them. We don't all want to get attention in our everyday activities like going to the gym at work or socialising. "

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

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By *tr8MrEMan
10 weeks ago

somewhere near Sheffield

We talking partners or kills? I'd like to think there isn't a female John Wick on here 😮😮😮

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy.

Dating apps are a way of controlling who you want to date, reading them before you meet them. We don't all want to get attention in our everyday activities like going to the gym at work or socialising. "

Ok, so clubs, bars, restaurants, the street and the gym are out of the equation... Then where else is there?

What happened to old fashioned cold approaching become so bad?

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy.

Dating apps are a way of controlling who you want to date, reading them before you meet them. We don't all want to get attention in our everyday activities like going to the gym at work or socialising.

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date. "

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy.

Dating apps are a way of controlling who you want to date, reading them before you meet them. We don't all want to get attention in our everyday activities like going to the gym at work or socialising.

Ok, so clubs, bars, restaurants, the street and the gym are out of the equation... Then where else is there?

What happened to old fashioned cold approaching become so bad? "

For me I like to go about my daily life without someone wanting to get in my knickers.

But that's just my opinion. The world does most of its socialising online now. Dating online is probably a comfort.

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"…

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date. "

I knew I was attractive.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


".

I'm really not sure what your point is.

That more people are finally realising how much better life is without a codependent relationship basis is an absolutely wonderful thing as far as I'm concerned.

You said you'd seen evidence against men preferring online and women preferring in person as a general thing within dating, I was asking about that."

I didn't mean it in that way. I meant it in the way that men are just completely done. Especially when it comes down to the younger generations.

Gen z are literally scared to even approach a woman because they're scared of being seen as a sexual predator or blasted publicly on social media about how bad or cringy etc he was and how she was doing him a favour for when going on a date with him.

You have foodie dates, literally women that go on dates for free food at high end restaurants and have zero interest in the guy. (Not saying this has happened to me. But they've definitely tried).

The dating scene has become very toxic and men and women in majority are checking out completely

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?

I don't think I've ever dated someone who asked the question. I've never asked it of any of my partners 💜

I reality you don't have have to outright ask the question. You know within a few dates really.

This is both for men and women. People with higher counts are more likely to run the bedroom on the first date or when they're texting are more likely to sexualise the conversation faster than those that are less experienced let's say "

As someone who's fucked a _lot_ of people, my most recent relationship had about 3 months of weekly dates and getting to know each other and develop that intimacy before we made it to the bedroom. The one that started a year earlier was intended to be entirely sexual and very short term, didn't quite turn out that way, but they're both still going strong and I'm grateful to have them in my life. I'm aware of their major prior relationships as those come up in general conversation, but how many people they've banged before, during and after those has never been something that I cared to know.

The only time I care about someone's experience level is if they're a virgin, because I really dislike the teacher role and simply cannot be bothered having to help someone learn the absolute basics 💜

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"I have seen numerous posts on social media asking why men don't approach or want to date. Women are even throwing dating events that are only attracting women and no men are attending.

Men are less likely to show up to speed dating or general in person events. Women are less likely to spend as much time online dating. It's more a medium difference than a lack of people looking on either side 💜

You'd like to think that is the case but I have seen more than enough to convince me otherwise

Oh?

I know tinder and hinge have much higher male ratios. This place certainly does. The few that come up searching for higher female ratios are either femme leaning queer specific or focused on coffee meets or in person interaction sooner rather than later. Where are you seeing otherwise?

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy. "

For a start this isn’t alway true. I don’t get approached when I’m in a bar or restaurant.

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By *quirrel!Man
10 weeks ago

L


"I’m still a virgin, I have no comparison! 🤷🏼‍♂️

Jesus loves you ♥️"

But also an atheist! 😘

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


".

I'm really not sure what your point is.

That more people are finally realising how much better life is without a codependent relationship basis is an absolutely wonderful thing as far as I'm concerned.

You said you'd seen evidence against men preferring online and women preferring in person as a general thing within dating, I was asking about that.

I didn't mean it in that way. I meant it in the way that men are just completely done. Especially when it comes down to the younger generations.

Gen z are literally scared to even approach a woman because they're scared of being seen as a sexual predator or blasted publicly on social media about how bad or cringy etc he was and how she was doing him a favour for when going on a date with him.

You have foodie dates, literally women that go on dates for free food at high end restaurants and have zero interest in the guy. (Not saying this has happened to me. But they've definitely tried).

The dating scene has become very toxic and men and women in majority are checking out completely"

"That more people are finally realising how much better life is without a codependent relationship basis is an absolutely wonderful thing as far as I'm concerned." 💜

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date. "

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

"

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university "

You're mansplaining what women want

Most women I know want to be successful in their own right and want a man who will be her best friend and not trying shagging the woman down the road lol

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"But “body count” refers to sex. Only sex. We aren’t discussing dating 🤷‍♂️

But sex and dating go hand in hand. People are interested in a persons sexual history when dating. Did you not?

I don't think I've ever dated someone who asked the question. I've never asked it of any of my partners 💜

I reality you don't have have to outright ask the question. You know within a few dates really.

This is both for men and women. People with higher counts are more likely to run the bedroom on the first date or when they're texting are more likely to sexualise the conversation faster than those that are less experienced let's say

As someone who's fucked a _lot_ of people, my most recent relationship had about 3 months of weekly dates and getting to know each other and develop that intimacy before we made it to the bedroom. The one that started a year earlier was intended to be entirely sexual and very short term, didn't quite turn out that way, but they're both still going strong and I'm grateful to have them in my life. I'm aware of their major prior relationships as those come up in general conversation, but how many people they've banged before, during and after those has never been something that I cared to know.

The only time I care about someone's experience level is if they're a virgin, because I really dislike the teacher role and simply cannot be bothered having to help someone learn the absolute basics 💜"

And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Let's be real. Why does a woman need a dating app or even this site? The average woman gets 100x the amount of attention as the average man (sure she might not like it/or wants it). She's constantly getting asked out (maybe not by guys she wants to date). I've noticed that in the younger dating scene more men and women aren't dating. I've seen that more men and women aren't even going to clubs. Sure we think that all women and all men are sleeping around. But the loudest voice is the one that everyone notices. A site like this is a prime example really. It's a small minority of the population that are looking for niche activities. There is a reason that majority of people on this site and apps similar are all for discretion and privacy.

For a start this isn’t alway true. I don’t get approached when I’m in a bar or restaurant. "

And one of my female friends have said the same. Is she unattractive? No. But this is just how the world is changing. Men are literally not even looking in women's directions half the time.

Decent guys respect a women's view and what she does and doesn't like and for years, women have said that they hate being approached, they feel safer with a bear and they are overall scared of men.

The decent guys listened and chose to respect that. But the guys that they got into this conversation about don't listen. Because why would they? They never cared before

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF

I'm beginning to think I'm not a woman lol

When I was younger, I thought an expierenced man would judge my body more, I'd not be up to standard, I was more uncomfortable, I felt on a long line of notches, I would try things I wasn't really interested in just to keep him interested......

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
10 weeks ago

Manchester-ish


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university "

But you are a man, how do you know what you think women want, is actually what women want?

My experience says the opposite to what you claim.

B

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche

The real truth is that women have never needed men.

History has shown that men have worked very hard at keeping women in a subjugated role to control and dominate.

Whilst the work/life balance for equality of men v women is improving it's not anywhere close to equal.

What you're witnessing is women realising they have a choice.

They don't need a man.

They can choose a man.

And what men can often describe is feeling emasculated by not being needed when imho being chosen is worth more than being needed.

Women can choose to marry or date. Often they choose peace.

Or the bear.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


".

I'm really not sure what your point is.

That more people are finally realising how much better life is without a codependent relationship basis is an absolutely wonderful thing as far as I'm concerned.

You said you'd seen evidence against men preferring online and women preferring in person as a general thing within dating, I was asking about that.

I didn't mean it in that way. I meant it in the way that men are just completely done. Especially when it comes down to the younger generations.

Gen z are literally scared to even approach a woman because they're scared of being seen as a sexual predator or blasted publicly on social media about how bad or cringy etc he was and how she was doing him a favour for when going on a date with him.

You have foodie dates, literally women that go on dates for free food at high end restaurants and have zero interest in the guy. (Not saying this has happened to me. But they've definitely tried).

The dating scene has become very toxic and men and women in majority are checking out completely

"That more people are finally realising how much better life is without a codependent relationship basis is an absolutely wonderful thing as far as I'm concerned." 💜"

So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"The real truth is that women have never needed men.

History has shown that men have worked very hard at keeping women in a subjugated role to control and dominate.

Whilst the work/life balance for equality of men v women is improving it's not anywhere close to equal.

What you're witnessing is women realising they have a choice.

They don't need a man.

They can choose a man.

And what men can often describe is feeling emasculated by not being needed when imho being chosen is worth more than being needed.

Women can choose to marry or date. Often they choose peace.

Or the bear."

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also "

I mean, just not a virgin is fine. I'm not particularly fussed if they have more experience than me or not.

I tend to prefer slightly older people because they've managed to work out who they are and what they want better than the younger generations. They're more likely to have similar interests to me. For the most part. One of my favourite people is almost a decade younger than me, but has lived more life in that time than most retirees.

If most men fundamentally just want a malleable pretty nothing they can mould into whatever they want then I really do hope the scientists hurry up on tuning the AI and getting those sex robot production costs down. I'd much rather only have people who want to date people in the dating pool 💜

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

"

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

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By *unmaster1963Man
10 weeks ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

Doesn't matter as long as you enjoyed yourself

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?"

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"

Gen z are literally scared to even approach a woman because they're scared of being seen as a sexual predator or blasted publicly on social media about how bad or cringy etc he was and how she was doing him a favour for when going on a date with him."

As a 97 baby and a gen Zer I just want to say this is not rooted in fact.

Diogo Day literally is rich because he chats women up in public. And lots of other gen Z people post content of them going up to women and chatting them up.

Men who want to chat women up will chat women up. When I was in school people would chat girls up after school all the time. People still do it.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university

You're mansplaining what women want

Most women I know want to be successful in their own right and want a man who will be her best friend and not trying shagging the woman down the road lol"

And to be fair. That's what men want too. Women cheat just as much (if not more) than men do. They just get away with it because they hide it better.

There is a huge thing going around now that is men not being the father to their children and that number is huge. I saw a video of a woman that had a friend which worked in a DNA testing center and she said he got very depressed and shut down and she even had to save him from a bad situation. It turned out 40% of the tests that he did... The man was not the father of his kids. This is not just the younger generation. This is the 40+ year olds.

The milk man and mail man jokes from the older generations make you think after that statistic.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university

But you are a man, how do you know what you think women want, is actually what women want?

My experience says the opposite to what you claim.

B"

Explain?

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post"

Yes. Marrying a spouse of superior sociological, educational or financial standing. It doesn't apply to me.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post"

Women weren't allowed bank accounts or to own property back in the day. Thankfully things have moved forward. Now, at least when you do date someone, there's a chance it's because she actually wants to be with _you_, not just because the other option is homelessness and death 💜

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By *bi HaiveMan
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10 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post"

*some women

One of my partners has children. The other doesn't.

Both have their own homes, as do I and none of us would ever want to live with anyone else.

The best advice I could give is to stop assuming all peolle are the same, want the same thing and view relationships and dating the same way.

Women aren't a hive mind. They're individuals.

And hypergamy is utter bullshit for the majority. Maybe 50-100 years ago, but certainly not now for the vast majority of women. They just want a man that doesn't subscribe to 1950's notions of gender roles and who'll treat them with respect and accept the life choices they make.

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By *inger_SnapWoman
10 weeks ago

Hampshire


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post"

We can manage all that without a man.

Your views (I'm guessing not all your own) are really quite disturbing. And you're not listening to all the actual women, telling you it's not the case.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"The real truth is that women have never needed men.

History has shown that men have worked very hard at keeping women in a subjugated role to control and dominate.

Whilst the work/life balance for equality of men v women is improving it's not anywhere close to equal.

What you're witnessing is women realising they have a choice.

They don't need a man.

They can choose a man.

And what men can often describe is feeling emasculated by not being needed when imho being chosen is worth more than being needed.

Women can choose to marry or date. Often they choose peace.

Or the bear."

And I think this is a great thing, but you also have to remember that it was a small percentage of men overall that wanted women in that submissive oppressed situation.

You only have to look at other parts of the world that have that same thing if not worse than we did 100 years ago.

I agree women don't need men just like men don't need women. The issue with men these days is that they don't feel useful (they confuse that for being useful to women and needing a woman).

Give a man a tool and an objective he's happy. It's just men and women operate in the world differently than men. Women love the classroom with their sticky notes and making notes. That bores guys. Give me a vocational way of learning and they thrive. It's been proven in boys only schools

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West

I feel like we're trying. But he really, really doesn't want to see. Because that's fucking uncomfortable. Far easier to keep everything in those neat manosphere boxes. Sigh.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also

I mean, just not a virgin is fine. I'm not particularly fussed if they have more experience than me or not.

I tend to prefer slightly older people because they've managed to work out who they are and what they want better than the younger generations. They're more likely to have similar interests to me. For the most part. One of my favourite people is almost a decade younger than me, but has lived more life in that time than most retirees.

If most men fundamentally just want a malleable pretty nothing they can mould into whatever they want then I really do hope the scientists hurry up on tuning the AI and getting those sex robot production costs down. I'd much rather only have people who want to date people in the dating pool 💜"

That is really not what the vast majority of men want... That is only the manipulators and the abusers.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Gen z are literally scared to even approach a woman because they're scared of being seen as a sexual predator or blasted publicly on social media about how bad or cringy etc he was and how she was doing him a favour for when going on a date with him.

As a 97 baby and a gen Zer I just want to say this is not rooted in fact.

Diogo Day literally is rich because he chats women up in public. And lots of other gen Z people post content of them going up to women and chatting them up.

Men who want to chat women up will chat women up. When I was in school people would chat girls up after school all the time. People still do it. "

You do realise the women are paid to do that right? It's not just random haha

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey

Also we don’t all want children or a roof over our heads.

I own my own house with no man in sight.

Very judgemental of you there.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF

Sickening now the misogyny on this post.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
10 weeks ago

Manchester-ish


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university

But you are a man, how do you know what you think women want, is actually what women want?

My experience says the opposite to what you claim.

B

Explain? "

You assert that woman don't want the average Joe and are only interested in 'hypergamy'. It's up there in mid grey and off white.

So last year, 50 year old, mr average here, slept with *checks notes* 21 people, of which at least 15 were female or fem presenting. And currently has * checks notes again* 4 regular fwbs.

Now I'm not saying your assertion is bullshit but from my lived experience, it certainly smells a bit off.

B

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By *ovelyDayXXXWoman
10 weeks ago

Niche

Mate you really need to give more thought to this than these sweeping outdated generalisations.

Not sure your pov is based on reliable sources.

Or any sources.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜"

I 100% agree with this. And more and more people are finding peace single and getting on with their own lives. But fundamentally its leaving people just not wanting to date due to a few bad experiences. They have found peace on their own and don't want to disturb that. Not saying that's me... I'm saying that this is just what is happening and this is why we have massive declining birth rates

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"Sickening now the misogyny on this post."

I only started this as a simple question. Now it’s changed to something else

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"Sickening now the misogyny on this post.

I only started this as a simple question. Now it’s changed to something else "

Yes it turned into an andrew tate convention pmsl

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

Yes. Marrying a spouse of superior sociological, educational or financial standing. It doesn't apply to me. "

This is because you have built a life for yourself and no doubt a career that doesn't need a man to rely on. This is where things have changed. I appreciate that and I'm happy women can live life that way. Outside of reproduction relationships aren't really needed when you thing about it. Sure there's the sharing life with another person but you can do that with a good group of friends after all.

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"Sickening now the misogyny on this post.

I only started this as a simple question. Now it’s changed to something else

Yes it turned into an andrew tate convention pmsl"

All because of one person

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"Sickening now the misogyny on this post.

I only started this as a simple question. Now it’s changed to something else

Yes it turned into an andrew tate convention pmsl

All because of one person "

Sorry it ruined your post. Was a good thread. X

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

Women weren't allowed bank accounts or to own property back in the day. Thankfully things have moved forward. Now, at least when you do date someone, there's a chance it's because she actually wants to be with _you_, not just because the other option is homelessness and death 💜"

I know this. And it's sad that this is still happening to millions of women around the world even today.

Hot take here. Women refuse to pay for the first date and even refused a second date and get in a mood if they don't have things paid for by their bf/husband.

At least that's the women I have had around me in my life and seen around.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

Women weren't allowed bank accounts or to own property back in the day. Thankfully things have moved forward. Now, at least when you do date someone, there's a chance it's because she actually wants to be with _you_, not just because the other option is homelessness and death 💜

I know this. And it's sad that this is still happening to millions of women around the world even today.

Hot take here. Women refuse to pay for the first date and even refused a second date and get in a mood if they don't have things paid for by their bf/husband.

At least that's the women I have had around me in my life and seen around."

Have a day off.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜

I 100% agree with this. And more and more people are finding peace single and getting on with their own lives. But fundamentally its leaving people just not wanting to date due to a few bad experiences. They have found peace on their own and don't want to disturb that. Not saying that's me... I'm saying that this is just what is happening and this is why we have massive declining birth rates

"

I don't want to breed (apart from liking my body and my peace too much) because this world isn't fit to bring more lives into. The birth rate is in decline because women are more than just broodmares now. Tying myself to not only the human I'd give birth to but the other parent for the rest of my life, what if they turn out to be assholes? Plus, kids are fucking expensive. Adding a whole other dependent in this economy? Pfft 💜

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

*some women

One of my partners has children. The other doesn't.

Both have their own homes, as do I and none of us would ever want to live with anyone else.

The best advice I could give is to stop assuming all peolle are the same, want the same thing and view relationships and dating the same way.

Women aren't a hive mind. They're individuals.

And hypergamy is utter bullshit for the majority. Maybe 50-100 years ago, but certainly not now for the vast majority of women. They just want a man that doesn't subscribe to 1950's notions of gender roles and who'll treat them with respect and accept the life choices they make. "

I don't think you have read my previous posts

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By *ulieScrumptiousWoman
10 weeks ago

North West


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

Yes. Marrying a spouse of superior sociological, educational or financial standing. It doesn't apply to me.

This is because you have built a life for yourself and no doubt a career that doesn't need a man to rely on. This is where things have changed. I appreciate that and I'm happy women can live life that way. Outside of reproduction relationships aren't really needed when you thing about it. Sure there's the sharing life with another person but you can do that with a good group of friends after all. "

That guy Beef on this thread? He's my husband. We have kids. We share an awesome life. We also have sex with other people. It's fun ❤️

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"Hot take here. Women refuse to pay for the first date and even refused a second date and get in a mood if they don't have things paid for by their bf/husband.

At least that's the women I have had around me in my life and seen around."

Pick better women buddy 💜

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"I feel like we're trying. But he really, really doesn't want to see. Because that's fucking uncomfortable. Far easier to keep everything in those neat manosphere boxes. Sigh. "

I really think that you're taking what I say out of context.

I respect that women don't need men for fundamental things, and I understand that when it comes to men and women dating has become less about what the man can offer the oppressed woman and more about how he and she can add to each others lives

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university

But you are a man, how do you know what you think women want, is actually what women want?

My experience says the opposite to what you claim.

B

Explain?

You assert that woman don't want the average Joe and are only interested in 'hypergamy'. It's up there in mid grey and off white.

So last year, 50 year old, mr average here, slept with *checks notes* 21 people, of which at least 15 were female or fem presenting. And currently has * checks notes again* 4 regular fwbs.

Now I'm not saying your assertion is bullshit but from my lived experience, it certainly smells a bit off.

B"

You are certainly doing something better than a good 60% of the male population. Bravo

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By *rHotNottsMan
10 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜

I 100% agree with this. And more and more people are finding peace single and getting on with their own lives. But fundamentally its leaving people just not wanting to date due to a few bad experiences. They have found peace on their own and don't want to disturb that. Not saying that's me... I'm saying that this is just what is happening and this is why we have massive declining birth rates

"

The only reason for declining birth rates that applies to women is increased education and access to labour markets. I know you’re only young but you really need to take care what you read and the views you form because they’re extremely biased

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By *aron Van WinkleMan
10 weeks ago

In fair Verona.

Yes

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also

I mean, just not a virgin is fine. I'm not particularly fussed if they have more experience than me or not.

I tend to prefer slightly older people because they've managed to work out who they are and what they want better than the younger generations. They're more likely to have similar interests to me. For the most part. One of my favourite people is almost a decade younger than me, but has lived more life in that time than most retirees.

If most men fundamentally just want a malleable pretty nothing they can mould into whatever they want then I really do hope the scientists hurry up on tuning the AI and getting those sex robot production costs down. I'd much rather only have people who want to date people in the dating pool 💜

That is really not what the vast majority of men want... That is only the manipulators and the abusers. "

"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced."

So you weren't saying that fundamentally men prefer inexperienced? I'm not really sure how else to read that 💜

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

10 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

*some women

One of my partners has children. The other doesn't.

Both have their own homes, as do I and none of us would ever want to live with anyone else.

The best advice I could give is to stop assuming all peolle are the same, want the same thing and view relationships and dating the same way.

Women aren't a hive mind. They're individuals.

And hypergamy is utter bullshit for the majority. Maybe 50-100 years ago, but certainly not now for the vast majority of women. They just want a man that doesn't subscribe to 1950's notions of gender roles and who'll treat them with respect and accept the life choices they make.

I don't think you have read my previous posts "

Oh I have.

I wish I hadn't if I'm honest, as it didn't make for comfortable reading.

You've had both many women, and men explain why the views you've expressed aren't the reality of life. They really do seem to spring feom the manosphere and that's not a great place to develop views and opinions re women, what they allegedly want, nor how they view relationships.

It's seriously not healthy.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜

I 100% agree with this. And more and more people are finding peace single and getting on with their own lives. But fundamentally its leaving people just not wanting to date due to a few bad experiences. They have found peace on their own and don't want to disturb that. Not saying that's me... I'm saying that this is just what is happening and this is why we have massive declining birth rates

The only reason for declining birth rates that applies to women is increased education and access to labour markets. I know you’re only young but you really need to take care what you read and the views you form because they’re extremely biased

"

Now there's a man we all want 😆

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜

I 100% agree with this. And more and more people are finding peace single and getting on with their own lives. But fundamentally its leaving people just not wanting to date due to a few bad experiences. They have found peace on their own and don't want to disturb that. Not saying that's me... I'm saying that this is just what is happening and this is why we have massive declining birth rates

I don't want to breed (apart from liking my body and my peace too much) because this world isn't fit to bring more lives into. The birth rate is in decline because women are more than just broodmares now. Tying myself to not only the human I'd give birth to but the other parent for the rest of my life, what if they turn out to be assholes? Plus, kids are fucking expensive. Adding a whole other dependent in this economy? Pfft 💜"

I fully understand this and this is why I'm still single. The way the world is now, I couldn't imagine having a child. The dangers a young girl would face even at a young age and not to mention the issues of a boy growing up as well.

You did make a few good points

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

This is meant with the absolute best and kindest of intentions. Some of the phrases your using suggests that you're being served content that is designed to alienate you from women and set you in competition against other men. To make you think that women are more bothered about status, looks and wealth. A very small minority maybe. But the vast majority? A person - not an object of value, lovely, nice.

Oh no I do understand this. But a woman does want a roof over her head and her children looked after after all. This is just how women have dated since the beginning of time. Do you know what hypergamy is? I have explained it in a previous post

Yes. Marrying a spouse of superior sociological, educational or financial standing. It doesn't apply to me.

This is because you have built a life for yourself and no doubt a career that doesn't need a man to rely on. This is where things have changed. I appreciate that and I'm happy women can live life that way. Outside of reproduction relationships aren't really needed when you thing about it. Sure there's the sharing life with another person but you can do that with a good group of friends after all.

That guy Beef on this thread? He's my husband. We have kids. We share an awesome life. We also have sex with other people. It's fun ❤️"

I'm happy you guys have found eachother and have been able to create your perfect relationship that suits both of you. You're lucky to have that

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By *riel13Woman
10 weeks ago

Northampton

I am not looking for a long term partner vut if my bodycount bothers someone then they ain't for me in any way

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Hot take here. Women refuse to pay for the first date and even refused a second date and get in a mood if they don't have things paid for by their bf/husband.

At least that's the women I have had around me in my life and seen around.

Pick better women buddy 💜"

Oh I intend to. That's why I've been single a while. Those kinds of women are in hiding it seems. Definitely not in bars for sure

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"You are certainly doing something better than a good 60% of the male population. Bravo "

And yet, there he is, Mr average 50 year old. He's already married and loves his wife, so his net worth isn't the draw. No 6 pack or massive Wang in sight. But I'd happily do him again if he wasn't so bloody far away 💜

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"So you're saying that people just shouldn't date or get into relationships at all? They should just either fuck who they please and move on to the next or just become abstinent?

I'm saying that people realising their happiness shouldn't be reliant on someone else is a good thing. It's a wonderful thing to be with someone that contributes joy to your life. But it's better to be alone than to be with someone who brings more negatives than just having your own peace. More people are getting to know themselves and to be happy in their own company. And those people are by far the easiest to love 💜

I 100% agree with this. And more and more people are finding peace single and getting on with their own lives. But fundamentally its leaving people just not wanting to date due to a few bad experiences. They have found peace on their own and don't want to disturb that. Not saying that's me... I'm saying that this is just what is happening and this is why we have massive declining birth rates

The only reason for declining birth rates that applies to women is increased education and access to labour markets. I know you’re only young but you really need to take care what you read and the views you form because they’re extremely biased

"

Not only that. When it comes to birth rates it comes down to population happiness and comfortable. Sure working lives and careers come into that as women most likely will have to choose one or the other due to pregnancy and childcare.

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF

I think you should stay away from.women

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey

@ lone maverick

You seam to be doing a lot of categorising women into the same category or just judging us from your own personal expediences we aren’t all the same.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
10 weeks ago

Manchester-ish


"

Dating apps are also rigged for men, it has been proven many times that the top percentage of guys will be shown more regularly to the majority of women.

There was a study that stated that the average man has to swipe 50 times to get a match and 10x that to get a date. That can be months of swiping and only have the preface of a singular date.

Could always develop an app for the underdog of men then....

Women overall don't want the average Joe. Women date in hypergamy. That is where the modern issues lie.

It's not women's faults or men's. As equality has advanced (a good thing) the hypergamy gap has become none existent. Women don't see a need for men because they're outearning men and have a higher level of education than men overall. More women go to university than men due to men going into trades and such which doesn't require said university

But you are a man, how do you know what you think women want, is actually what women want?

My experience says the opposite to what you claim.

B

Explain?

You assert that woman don't want the average Joe and are only interested in 'hypergamy'. It's up there in mid grey and off white.

So last year, 50 year old, mr average here, slept with *checks notes* 21 people, of which at least 15 were female or fem presenting. And currently has * checks notes again* 4 regular fwbs.

Now I'm not saying your assertion is bullshit but from my lived experience, it certainly smells a bit off.

B

You are certainly doing something better than a good 60% of the male population. Bravo "

That's an oddly specific statistic, or more manosphere bullshit 🤷.

Genuinely, I just treat people as people. There's no magic formula or secret technique.

B

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also

I mean, just not a virgin is fine. I'm not particularly fussed if they have more experience than me or not.

I tend to prefer slightly older people because they've managed to work out who they are and what they want better than the younger generations. They're more likely to have similar interests to me. For the most part. One of my favourite people is almost a decade younger than me, but has lived more life in that time than most retirees.

If most men fundamentally just want a malleable pretty nothing they can mould into whatever they want then I really do hope the scientists hurry up on tuning the AI and getting those sex robot production costs down. I'd much rather only have people who want to date people in the dating pool 💜

That is really not what the vast majority of men want... That is only the manipulators and the abusers.

"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced."

So you weren't saying that fundamentally men prefer inexperienced? I'm not really sure how else to read that 💜"

I never said that. For men overall it's an image and ego thing.

It stared out as a long lasting thing of maternity for centuries. But now it is partially that but also goes more further into men not wanting what has easily become accessible to others.

I've seen a lot of this online (not saying it's my pov).

Men are not willing to wait past a date or 2 because they assume that she has given it up on a night out or in a matter or hours to another guy so him being made to wait... Shows that he's not that special to her.

Again... This is not my pov

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By *BWSugar91Woman
10 weeks ago

WF

I think this is his kink

Deffo wanking as he types lol

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10 weeks ago

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

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"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also

I mean, just not a virgin is fine. I'm not particularly fussed if they have more experience than me or not.

I tend to prefer slightly older people because they've managed to work out who they are and what they want better than the younger generations. They're more likely to have similar interests to me. For the most part. One of my favourite people is almost a decade younger than me, but has lived more life in that time than most retirees.

If most men fundamentally just want a malleable pretty nothing they can mould into whatever they want then I really do hope the scientists hurry up on tuning the AI and getting those sex robot production costs down. I'd much rather only have people who want to date people in the dating pool 💜

That is really not what the vast majority of men want... That is only the manipulators and the abusers.

"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced."

So you weren't saying that fundamentally men prefer inexperienced? I'm not really sure how else to read that 💜

I never said that. For men overall it's an image and ego thing.

It stared out as a long lasting thing of maternity for centuries. But now it is partially that but also goes more further into men not wanting what has easily become accessible to others.

I've seen a lot of this online (not saying it's my pov).

Men are not willing to wait past a date or 2 because they assume that she has given it up on a night out or in a matter or hours to another guy so him being made to wait... Shows that he's not that special to her.

Again... This is not my pov "

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Whoever posted that online that sounds like cap.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
10 weeks ago

Manchester-ish


"You are certainly doing something better than a good 60% of the male population. Bravo

And yet, there he is, Mr average 50 year old. He's already married and loves his wife, so his net worth isn't the draw. No 6 pack or massive Wang in sight. But I'd happily do him again if he wasn't so bloody far away 💜"

Woah, woah, woah, hang on a moment...

I think it might be a bit girthier than average.

Fucking distance 😭

B😘

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"

The best advice I could give is to stop assuming all peolle are the same, want the same thing and view relationships and dating the same way.

Women aren't a hive mind. They're individuals.

And hypergamy is utter bullshit for the majority. Maybe 50-100 years ago, but certainly not now for the vast majority of women. They just want a man that doesn't subscribe to 1950's notions of gender roles and who'll treat them with respect and accept the life choices they make.

I don't think you have read my previous posts

Oh I have.

I wish I hadn't if I'm honest, as it didn't make for comfortable reading.

You've had both many women, and men explain why the views you've expressed aren't the reality of life. They really do seem to spring feom the manosphere and that's not a great place to develop views and opinions re women, what they allegedly want, nor how they view relationships.

It's seriously not healthy. "

I hate majority of what the red pill and manophere spews. I saw someone bring up Andrew Tate. He's just a billionaire playboy that has the ego of a multi champion kick boxer. When you look at his life. He was made fun of by women and never had any real money growing up and now he has everything he takes advantage of it.

That's not the kind of person I am or would ever be. I am not the type to go to a club 5 times a week and have 5 different women a week either.

I have explained that in previous posts

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced. This is why women date older also

I mean, just not a virgin is fine. I'm not particularly fussed if they have more experience than me or not.

I tend to prefer slightly older people because they've managed to work out who they are and what they want better than the younger generations. They're more likely to have similar interests to me. For the most part. One of my favourite people is almost a decade younger than me, but has lived more life in that time than most retirees.

If most men fundamentally just want a malleable pretty nothing they can mould into whatever they want then I really do hope the scientists hurry up on tuning the AI and getting those sex robot production costs down. I'd much rather only have people who want to date people in the dating pool 💜

That is really not what the vast majority of men want... That is only the manipulators and the abusers.

"And this is where fundamentally men and women differ. Women prefer a more experienced man due to him being desirable and more experienced."

So you weren't saying that fundamentally men prefer inexperienced? I'm not really sure how else to read that 💜

I never said that. For men overall it's an image and ego thing.

It stared out as a long lasting thing of maternity for centuries. But now it is partially that but also goes more further into men not wanting what has easily become accessible to others.

I've seen a lot of this online (not saying it's my pov).

Men are not willing to wait past a date or 2 because they assume that she has given it up on a night out or in a matter or hours to another guy so him being made to wait... Shows that he's not that special to her.

Again... This is not my pov "

So women want experience, and men are fundamentally different because they're only interested in the visual and their ego? I think that's actually worse than the first interpretation.

Like I said, of my two most recent partners one was instantly sexual and the other was 3 months of dating first. both relationships are still going strong, and in neither situation was I placing value on them determined entirely by how early I provided access to my cunt 💜

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"I think this is his kink

Deffo wanking as he types lol"

😭

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
10 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"You are certainly doing something better than a good 60% of the male population. Bravo

And yet, there he is, Mr average 50 year old. He's already married and loves his wife, so his net worth isn't the draw. No 6 pack or massive Wang in sight. But I'd happily do him again if he wasn't so bloody far away 💜

Woah, woah, woah, hang on a moment...

I think it might be a bit girthier than average.

Fucking distance 😭

B😘"

Life has to get less chaotic soon. I'll get back down your possibly girthier than average but utterly delicious penis when I can 💜

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"You are certainly doing something better than a good 60% of the male population. Bravo

And yet, there he is, Mr average 50 year old. He's already married and loves his wife, so his net worth isn't the draw. No 6 pack or massive Wang in sight. But I'd happily do him again if he wasn't so bloody far away 💜"

And I'm happy for you.

But in this new generation of dating the rules have changed massively. You should do a bit of research into under 30s dating.

I blame social media for majority of the issues as it has made so many people antisocial and disconnected. The average person as mentioned in past posts don't want to be approached at all in the real world. But then comes the issue of how you make yourself desirable digitally. Is it a lambo in the picture? Is it a freshly cooked meal? A holiday pic?

When it comes to gen z dating it's a huge minefield as a lot of the people are impatient and materialist. That goes for both men and women

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By *ansoffateMan
10 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"@ lone maverick

You seam to be doing a lot of categorising women into the same category or just judging us from your own personal expediences we aren’t all the same.

"

To be fair I think he's doing the same to men too.

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By *sStephenPickleMan
10 weeks ago

Ends


"@ lone maverick

You seam to be doing a lot of categorising women into the same category or just judging us from your own personal expediences we aren’t all the same.

To be fair I think he's doing the same to men too."

Wrong and strong. Gets like that

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By *aturalbabe OP   Woman
10 weeks ago

london/surrey


"@ lone maverick

You seam to be doing a lot of categorising women into the same category or just judging us from your own personal expediences we aren’t all the same.

To be fair I think he's doing the same to men too."

What his saying has noting to do with the question being asked.

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By *eliWoman
10 weeks ago

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No.

To those it matters? They don't matter unless you decide they should.

It's a pile of absolute bollocks to be blunt.

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By *one_maverickMan
10 weeks ago

Leeds/Bradford


"@ lone maverick

You seam to be doing a lot of categorising women into the same category or just judging us from your own personal expediences we aren’t all the same.

"

I don't think you've read all of my posts. I haven't singled out just women... I have said the same thing about men also.

I understand that everyone is an individual and that everyone will be attracted to different things. No matter what they are.

I understand that women want to have their independence (which they now have) and that the majority don't want a man to pay for their life or dominate their existence. And I wouldn't ever want to do that to a woman either.

If there is anything else you'd like me to clear up I'd be more than happy to do so.

It was never my intention to come across that way and I never thought I did

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By *bi HaiveMan
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10 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

175.

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By *ansoffateMan
10 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"@ lone maverick

You seam to be doing a lot of categorising women into the same category or just judging us from your own personal expediences we aren’t all the same.

To be fair I think he's doing the same to men too.

What his saying has noting to do with the question being asked.

"

I'm not sure what he's saying has to do with anything. I'm trying to see if there's a salient point there somewhere, but I clearly lack the smarts. I must be getting old.

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