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"Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling. It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology. He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left. He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it. That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it? What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school? I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
"There was a time that I would have said definitely not. However I’ve mellowed a bit in my old age. I’m still concerned about faith schools but teaching religion as a concept and understanding of other peoples belief systems I think is a good thing. Ignorance breeds bigotry I think. | |||
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"Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling. It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology. He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left. He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it. That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it? What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school? I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
"Sounds a good film shag. I was only having this conversation over dinner last night. I have no clue what they are taught. There will no doubt be the usual suspects being offensive about religion but whether you agree with it or not, it exists and a huge population of the world are religious of one flavour or another. The more we understand about them and their values and attitudes the better as far as I'm concerned. I can remember 50 years ago being taught about Islam and Buddhism and abrahamic faiths and Hinduism and apart from the understanding found it interesting and rather predictable some of the challenges we have today with secular society and tolerating of religions and indeed the growing influence of fundamentalism. But ignoring it won't make those challenges go away. | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core" Is satanism a religion? | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core" There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. " I believe it is | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. I believe it is " I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss...... I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. I believe it is I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss...... I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. " Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief? | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. I believe it is I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss...... I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief?" Religion - Belief system followed by a community and World wide following, often a structured organisation Belief - Personal to you, it's your convictions, opinions and conclusions drawn from your own experiences | |||
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"I think it should be taught but should be equal across all religions with no bias. Atheism should also be 'taught' so they can make their own choices/beliefs. " Totally agree with this | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. I believe it is I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss...... I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief? Religion - Belief system followed by a community and World wide following, often a structured organisation Belief - Personal to you, it's your convictions, opinions and conclusions drawn from your own experiences" Thanks! By that definition, Buddhism is still a religion. It's followed by a large community. Depending on which denomination of Buddhism you follow, there are structured organisations too. Like the Dalai Lama being the head of the school and all the process that is followed while choosing their successors. | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. I believe it is I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss...... I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief? Religion - Belief system followed by a community and World wide following, often a structured organisation Belief - Personal to you, it's your convictions, opinions and conclusions drawn from your own experiences Thanks! By that definition, Buddhism is still a religion. It's followed by a large community. Depending on which denomination of Buddhism you follow, there are structured organisations too. Like the Dalai Lama being the head of the school and all the process that is followed while choosing their successors." I mean, someone may come along and say different to me but that is how I understand it | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core Is satanism a religion? " Yes I believe so | |||
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"School isn't education, it's indoctrination." Good job you home school then if you have kids. | |||
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"School isn't education, it's indoctrination." Didn’t Churchill say something similar? | |||
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not. But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief.... Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. I believe it is I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss...... I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. " When I was at school we discussed communism as it could have fit the definition at the time | |||
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"Absolutely not. Unless you going to teach all the other fairytales " 80% of the world's population are religious and you don't think we should be taught anything about that? Why would we not try to learn about beliefs of others? | |||
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"School isn't education, it's indoctrination." In some areas it absolutely is and in some it needs to be. | |||
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"There's little point teaching something that's got little interest from the kids. So it would have to be valuable and interesting. I don't like indoctrination or kids and faith schools. If it's about increasing tolerance and understanding of multiple religions, then it could be useful. " Little interest like like Maths, English...... 😆 | |||
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"No. We should teach practical, life lessons, in addition to the 'three r's'. Manners being taught would be nice, but really that's the parents job 🤓" By manners, do you mean those extra little words people add into sentences who are brought up in the British Empire? Or which knives and forks to use for dinner, surely that should be incorporated into the shameful history lessons | |||
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" I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning …. builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
"I have to disagree. Religion does not teach people to be compassionate or kind or caring. Simply look at every religion and it’s religious wars for proof. Religion certainly does not teach critical thinking, quite the opposite. Religion, all religion is a load of nonenseae. A collection of fairytales, bigotry and twaddle. It forces people to accept a “them v’s Us” attitude. It teaches division and hatred. It comes from a time when we understood nothing, thankfully science has enlightened us and proved the universe is far more magnificent and more Jessica than any religion ever did. The only reason for teaching religion in a CV oils should be to inform kids about the roots of each religion, their similarities and why religion is dangerous folly we can happily live without. | |||
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"Sure, why not. We teach kids everything else thats non fiction… oh wait…. Why can’t religion just be incorporated into the other subjects, such as history, or geography? It could be covered there. " What part of religion is built on fact ? You simply cannot be wrong as it’s a blind faith in something that can’t be proven or argued for or against Faith is more opinion then fact .. you can use faith to support kindness or evil as has been done over centuries History is matter of fact then interpreting that fact Faith ? Well prove Jesus died and rose ? It’s a belief not a fact … you can’t be wrong either way if you belive .. teachers should not teach opinion or belief imo let people find there own way What’s killed more people than influenza ? Answer .. religious belief not religious fact | |||
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"No. We should teach practical, life lessons, in addition to the 'three r's'. Manners being taught would be nice, but really that's the parents job 🤓" You are bang on the money here. I had a student who couldn’t add 1 on to 16 or divide the answer without the aid of a calculator. This was someone around 19 or 20 at the time. If religion was to be taught in schools then everyone should go to a non- denominational school. All religions should be given equal weight rather than the biased way they are taught just now. My own opinion is that religion shouldn’t be taught as it was and still is a way of controlling the population. Religion in the west of Scotland is very divisive and leads to so much hatred and bigotry which has no place in society. | |||
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" I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning …. builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
I have to disagree. Religion does not teach people to be compassionate or kind or caring. Simply look at every religion and it’s religious wars for proof.
Religion certainly does not teach critical thinking, quite the opposite. Religion, all religion is a load of nonenseae. A collection of fairytales, bigotry and twaddle. It forces people to accept a “them v’s Us” attitude. It teaches division and hatred. It comes from a time when we understood nothing, thankfully science has enlightened us and proved the universe is far more magnificent and more Jessica than any religion ever did.
The only reason for teaching religion in a CV oils should be to inform kids about the roots of each religion, their similarities and why religion is dangerous folly we can happily live without. "I could all hear that religion was responsible for the creation of things like schools hospitals and organisations founded on religious principles solve most of the worlds problems through giving, and that wars aren’t really anything to do with religion. They do with land and assets being stockpiled plenty of evidence to support this for example war did not exist before 10,000 years ago yet there is a huge amount of evidence of religion before this time But I can’t really be bothered to argue with you | |||
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"I would be teaching Political Philosophy and Economics long before I taught Religious Studies. Neither of those subjects are taught generally and yet are arguably the most significant systemic forces in our lives, which shape our culture and belief. I don't believe in censoring a subject, but it's hard for me to justify making Religion compulsory for citizens before PPE." I agree. | |||
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"Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling. It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology. He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left. He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it. That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it? What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school? I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
Sounds a good film shag. I was only having this conversation over dinner last night. I have no clue what they are taught. There will no doubt be the usual suspects being offensive about religion but whether you agree with it or not, it exists and a huge population of the world are religious of one flavour or another. The more we understand about them and their values and attitudes the better as far as I'm concerned. I can remember 50 years ago being taught about Islam and Buddhism and abrahamic faiths and Hinduism and apart from the understanding found it interesting and rather predictable some of the challenges we have today with secular society and tolerating of religions and indeed the growing influence of fundamentalism. But ignoring it won't make those challenges go away. "Yes, it is an interesting discussion to have, it is a good film too  | |||
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"Religious Education is still on the curriculum. Nobody gets 'fired' for talking about Religion. People only get removed from the classroom if they are trying to indoctrinate or push a certain religion onto children. I don't believe religion has any place in society at all but due to the wide variety of religions and their effects on populations I do think it is important that we should all be aware of what others believe as it leads to understanding , tolerance and peace. " Trust me to go to Catholic schools, they even give you a GCSE in it. | |||
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"Yes definitely - I think it helps kids to understand each other and helps each other to respect different cultures " Yes, it helps them with that too | |||
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"They should be aware of all religions but non should be pushed " Exactly my view (a practising Christian) | |||
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"Yes.not as religious lesson but about cultural beliefs. Everyone has the right to worship, if that belief has the ability to get someone through a tough day then it's surly good to share. Btw,I'm not religious but I do accept the need of others." Are you suggesting we use religion as some form of medication ? | |||
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"Yes.not as religious lesson but about cultural beliefs. Everyone has the right to worship, if that belief has the ability to get someone through a tough day then it's surly good to share. Btw,I'm not religious but I do accept the need of others. Are you suggesting we use religion as some form of medication ? " No. What I'm saying is if it helps someone through a day then it has to be good for them. If our kids are taught the cultural side of religions we all become more accepting. You prefer drugs and alcohol to get through a day fine, but that's a burden on others. | |||
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"Sounds like a really interesting film. Will need to check it out. As for whether religion should be taught in schools, great question. It really depends on society and whether people nowadays need and believe in religion. For me, religion is timeless. The teachings can be applied to every single scenario until the end of time. Whether humans can understand and decipher it, is another thing. Indoctrinating is based on human interpretation. Not on the religion itself. No religion is hurtful in my opinion. It’s about love and acceptance. It’s how people interpret it. Which also is beautiful. We all have free will of thought. Annoying at times that can be 😂" Yes, it is a really interesting film too | |||
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"No to any religion.Teach something that’s useful in life." 84% of the world identifies as religious. It can't possibly be useful to learn about religions in order to better understand one another.  | |||
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