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"It's a tough watch But very worthwhile " I was in tears through most of it. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? " Interestingly Gareth Southgate has just delivered the Dimbleby lecture and whilst I've not seen it all nor the Netflix show they both have common ground that the very real deep issues that affect some young male minds need addressing.. Not only in the use of lethal means as a way of settling disagreement but the toxic culture that's exists in how women and girls are perceived and treated by some males.. I hope it does and it's not before time yes because we aren't in a good place with such things as the stats sadly indicate.. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? " If it makes people wonder or take more interest in what their young ones are getting up to in their bedrooms online then it can only be a good thing. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? If it makes people wonder or take more interest in what their young ones are getting up to in their bedrooms online then it can only be a good thing. " I hope it does. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? " I definitely think so...change has already started to happen before the show, the red pill / manosphere movement is slowly dying off, people like Andrew Tate are just a shadow of their former self, and this show will shed a huge light on the gender wars between young people, that have been going on online for the past 5 years or so... | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? I definitely think so...change has already started to happen before the show, the red pill / manosphere movement is slowly dying off, people like Andrew Tate are just a shadow of their former self, and this show will shed a huge light on the gender wars between young people, that have been going on online for the past 5 years or so..." I caught a quick video of Gareth Southgate ( I think) on the news this morning giving a brilliant speech geared towards young boys/men talking about what they should aspire to, ie being a decent person , treating women with respect etc...i take my hat off to the guy, he is a good role model.. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? I definitely think so...change has already started to happen before the show, the red pill / manosphere movement is slowly dying off, people like Andrew Tate are just a shadow of their former self, and this show will shed a huge light on the gender wars between young people, that have been going on online for the past 5 years or so... I caught a quick video of Gareth Southgate ( I think) on the news this morning giving a brilliant speech geared towards young boys/men talking about what they should aspire to, ie being a decent person , treating women with respect etc...i take my hat off to the guy, he is a good role model.." Agreed..  | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? I definitely think so...change has already started to happen before the show, the red pill / manosphere movement is slowly dying off, people like Andrew Tate are just a shadow of their former self, and this show will shed a huge light on the gender wars between young people, that have been going on online for the past 5 years or so... I caught a quick video of Gareth Southgate ( I think) on the news this morning giving a brilliant speech geared towards young boys/men talking about what they should aspire to, ie being a decent person , treating women with respect etc...i take my hat off to the guy, he is a good role model.." How many 13 year olds are modelling themselves on him? I think we need to go further. I think parents should step up and be checking their kids internet activity, limit access to mobiles and secluded internet usage. We used to check where our kids had been on the net and nipped a few potentially harmful situations in the bud. What was shocking to us was the reaction of other parents when we told them what their kids were involved in. They laughed it off and didn't take it seriously | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? I definitely think so...change has already started to happen before the show, the red pill / manosphere movement is slowly dying off, people like Andrew Tate are just a shadow of their former self, and this show will shed a huge light on the gender wars between young people, that have been going on online for the past 5 years or so... I caught a quick video of Gareth Southgate ( I think) on the news this morning giving a brilliant speech geared towards young boys/men talking about what they should aspire to, ie being a decent person , treating women with respect etc...i take my hat off to the guy, he is a good role model.. How many 13 year olds are modelling themselves on him? I think we need to go further. I think parents should step up and be checking their kids internet activity, limit access to mobiles and secluded internet usage. We used to check where our kids had been on the net and nipped a few potentially harmful situations in the bud. What was shocking to us was the reaction of other parents when we told them what their kids were involved in. They laughed it off and didn't take it seriously " Our son is in IT so has it sorted on what his boys are and will be allowed but tbh I wouldn't have had a clue if the web had been as prevalent when our own was at that age.. In many ways the tech is amazing and it is the future but it's a complete minefield and much stricter legislation is needed with some of the content (and providers) if that's not already too late.. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? I definitely think so...change has already started to happen before the show, the red pill / manosphere movement is slowly dying off, people like Andrew Tate are just a shadow of their former self, and this show will shed a huge light on the gender wars between young people, that have been going on online for the past 5 years or so... I caught a quick video of Gareth Southgate ( I think) on the news this morning giving a brilliant speech geared towards young boys/men talking about what they should aspire to, ie being a decent person , treating women with respect etc...i take my hat off to the guy, he is a good role model.." All 13 year old boys should wear waistcoats. | |||
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"Does anyone think/ hope this will bring about change, or the start of it at least? " Only if a decent package about it in the curriculum is installed. We need the kids debating about those topics with each other. Yes as parents we can monitor the viewing content, but we need our kids to make the right choices, and talking about it with kids their own age and peers helps to give them the most awareness. Some schools have police coordinated talks given to schools by offenders to spread some awareness of criminality and the damage it does  | |||
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"What's it about " Want me to go on Wikipedia and copy and paste for you? | |||
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"What's it about " Watch it. It's not something easily explained. But it's something that will stay with you and make you think. If you are a parent or not it's something that I think personally everyone should watch,I'd say it's more of a public information film rather than entertainment. Thought-provoking and intense. | |||
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"What's it about Watch it. It's not something easily explained. But it's something that will stay with you and make you think. If you are a parent or not it's something that I think personally everyone should watch,I'd say it's more of a public information film rather than entertainment. Thought-provoking and intense." It's about a kid that killed another kid and the manosphere online world. I thought it started off better than it ended. | |||
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"I back to backed it yesterday. I didn't think it was about knife crime or toxic masculinity. Yes they were concepts or themes within this drama but for me the series was a portrayal of the growing dissonance between generations, parents and children and other institutions. It's about the taking of responsibility from the family unit for their childrens behaviours and replacing the moral education of the next generation onto the internet. It's about taking authority out of schools and instilling the belief in those too young to have any wisdom or love of others that they don't have to listen to anyone or do anything they don't want to. The blame lies neither with the children nor the parents. By the time the developers of technology have infiltrated your life and your childrens lives for the sake of turning you into captial ... it's too late. But your kids are okay aren't they ? You're a good parent aren't you ? Children are no longer 'ours'..... they are harvested at birth and we walk blindly alongside them into the abyss..... " It highlights how one of the modern ages best inventions has effectively been weaponised and how powerless we find ourselves in protecting our children. Everyone from every walk of life should be watching this and be aware. The next victim could be your child | |||
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"The significance of various emojis having hidden meanings. Think social media platforms should ban the use of them."  | |||
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"Depressing load of boring shit " I think that tells us a lot about you. | |||
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"Might not be a fashionable statement but we both thought it was a waste of life. It was boring." What would have made it less boring for you? | |||
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"I think there's a whiff of moral panic about the 'manosphere'. Young men have committed violent crime since year zero, the idea there's something radically new here seems suspect to me." It’s partly bound up in the algorithms - that’s a new thing - how quickly YouTube can take you into ugly, radical territory. What do you mean by ‘suspect’ exactly? | |||
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"I think there's a whiff of moral panic about the 'manosphere'. Young men have committed violent crime since year zero, the idea there's something radically new here seems suspect to me. It’s partly bound up in the algorithms - that’s a new thing - how quickly YouTube can take you into ugly, radical territory. What do you mean by ‘suspect’ exactly? " Questionable as a conclusion. | |||
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"Might not be a fashionable statement but we both thought it was a waste of life. It was boring." Well it seems you have missed the whole point of it. I don't think it was ever designed to be entertainment, more of start of a discussion about current and very relevant issues, raising many questions. Possibly the most important one being: Do we know what our children are doing on the internet. Knife crime isn't new, the subject of media influce on people isn't new. But what's happening now is pretty much akin to radicalisation/grooming be it anti female,anti male,anti trans....... Pick a subject. People prey on the young and vulnerable, there should be more accountability of social media platforms allowing stuff to be posted that could ultimately cause harm. And parents need to be more aware of what their children are looking at and who they are talking to. But yes maybe incel maybe the "in" topic for concern at the moment. Growing up it was punk music or later on video nasties,in the 80's the world was going to burn due to extreme violence in films, more recently the finger has been pointed at rap music and the glorification of violence. All of this aside it's accessibility that seems to be the issue and how easy it is for anyone particularly vulnerable people and children to get access to ANYTHING at the touch of a button in mere seconds. | |||
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"It's interesting, all the talk is about new dangers, manosphere, emojis etc. What I saw was a much much older story. A young lad with a temper issue, bullying, usual teenage feelings of being the odd one out/not belonging - compounded by by the bullying and culminating in a tragic act. There seems to be a lot of hand wringing about the dangers our kids face now but bullying isn't new, children not being equipped to handle their emotions isn't new, young lads with testosterone coursing through them and reacting violently isn't new. The back ground details change, the actors wear different clothes, bullies use different language but the plot is ancient. Andrew Tate and the manosohere got a 2 minute mention, far more time was spent talking about tempers, feelings of inadequacy etc, I'm a little lost as to why all the attention is on the internet. I guess it's much easier to pick on some nebulous social change and blame it for all that's wrong in the world instead of taking a hard look at our very human nature. When I was a kid it was videos that were going to cause the collapse of society. Alien, Nightmare on Elm Street, Terminator etc were (according to my parents) the outward sign of all that's wrong with the world and to blame for all violence in it. Then it was video games that were corrupting our youth, that became social media to which we've added porn and most recently influencers. It's all very Mary Whitehouse." There is no need to attempt to discredit those who hold a different viewpoint to you by calling them 'hand wringing mary whitehouses' - your argument is good enough to stand on it's own merit. I agree with much of what you say particularly the 'nature' of things and the process of adolescence. It's always been an issue but the issue is made all the more difficult in that the internet , social media , mobile phones etc make it almost impossible to know where their children are ( virtually ) and who they are associating with and what ideas and ideologies they are attuning to. In times past life was hard enough for teens and parents. These days teens are bombarded at any time of day with content of any sort. I had school then home. Kids now have school and contact after school even with people they don't want to speak to. My generation had to go looking for porn - kids these days see it whether they want to or not. Violence was very rare in my time - a stabbing was headlines and very rare. Kids these days hear it, see it , live it .. There's so much more they have to live with but I can't write them all up. Their childhoods are incomparable with what mine was like or what their parents lives were like. We are rearing a generation that just do not have our values and principles. I find the ' and twas always thus ' argument very lacking in insight. | |||
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"It's interesting, all the talk is about new dangers, manosphere, emojis etc. What I saw was a much much older story. A young lad with a temper issue, bullying, usual teenage feelings of being the odd one out/not belonging - compounded by by the bullying and culminating in a tragic act. There seems to be a lot of hand wringing about the dangers our kids face now but bullying isn't new, children not being equipped to handle their emotions isn't new, young lads with testosterone coursing through them and reacting violently isn't new. The back ground details change, the actors wear different clothes, bullies use different language but the plot is ancient. Andrew Tate and the manosohere got a 2 minute mention, far more time was spent talking about tempers, feelings of inadequacy etc, I'm a little lost as to why all the attention is on the internet. I guess it's much easier to pick on some nebulous social change and blame it for all that's wrong in the world instead of taking a hard look at our very human nature. When I was a kid it was videos that were going to cause the collapse of society. Alien, Nightmare on Elm Street, Terminator etc were (according to my parents) the outward sign of all that's wrong with the world and to blame for all violence in it. Then it was video games that were corrupting our youth, that became social media to which we've added porn and most recently influencers. It's all very Mary Whitehouse. There is no need to attempt to discredit those who hold a different viewpoint to you by calling them 'hand wringing mary whitehouses' - your argument is good enough to stand on it's own merit. I agree with much of what you say particularly the 'nature' of things and the process of adolescence. It's always been an issue but the issue is made all the more difficult in that the internet , social media , mobile phones etc make it almost impossible to know where their children are ( virtually ) and who they are associating with and what ideas and ideologies they are attuning to. In times past life was hard enough for teens and parents. These days teens are bombarded at any time of day with content of any sort. I had school then home. Kids now have school and contact after school even with people they don't want to speak to. My generation had to go looking for porn - kids these days see it whether they want to or not. Violence was very rare in my time - a stabbing was headlines and very rare. Kids these days hear it, see it , live it .. There's so much more they have to live with but I can't write them all up. Their childhoods are incomparable with what mine was like or what their parents lives were like. We are rearing a generation that just do not have our values and principles. I find the ' and twas always thus ' argument very lacking in insight. " Ms Crumpet is terribly wise | |||
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"It's interesting, all the talk is about new dangers, manosphere, emojis etc. What I saw was a much much older story. A young lad with a temper issue, bullying, usual teenage feelings of being the odd one out/not belonging - compounded by by the bullying and culminating in a tragic act. There seems to be a lot of hand wringing about the dangers our kids face now but bullying isn't new, children not being equipped to handle their emotions isn't new, young lads with testosterone coursing through them and reacting violently isn't new. The back ground details change, the actors wear different clothes, bullies use different language but the plot is ancient. Andrew Tate and the manosohere got a 2 minute mention, far more time was spent talking about tempers, feelings of inadequacy etc, I'm a little lost as to why all the attention is on the internet. I guess it's much easier to pick on some nebulous social change and blame it for all that's wrong in the world instead of taking a hard look at our very human nature. When I was a kid it was videos that were going to cause the collapse of society. Alien, Nightmare on Elm Street, Terminator etc were (according to my parents) the outward sign of all that's wrong with the world and to blame for all violence in it. Then it was video games that were corrupting our youth, that became social media to which we've added porn and most recently influencers. It's all very Mary Whitehouse. There is no need to attempt to discredit those who hold a different viewpoint to you by calling them 'hand wringing mary whitehouses' - your argument is good enough to stand on it's own merit. I agree with much of what you say particularly the 'nature' of things and the process of adolescence. It's always been an issue but the issue is made all the more difficult in that the internet , social media , mobile phones etc make it almost impossible to know where their children are ( virtually ) and who they are associating with and what ideas and ideologies they are attuning to. In times past life was hard enough for teens and parents. These days teens are bombarded at any time of day with content of any sort. I had school then home. Kids now have school and contact after school even with people they don't want to speak to. My generation had to go looking for porn - kids these days see it whether they want to or not. Violence was very rare in my time - a stabbing was headlines and very rare. Kids these days hear it, see it , live it .. There's so much more they have to live with but I can't write them all up. Their childhoods are incomparable with what mine was like or what their parents lives were like. We are rearing a generation that just do not have our values and principles. I find the ' and twas always thus ' argument very lacking in insight. " Sorry for the late reply, firstly I spent time thinking about what you said and secondly I've been very busy so here goes. There is no need to attempt to discredit those who hold a different viewpoint to you by saying they're very lacking in insite - your argument is good enough to stand on it's own merit .... I agree today's children live in a different world, with different values and principles but that isn't my argument. This really t'was ever thus. We were raised with very different values to my parents and they to theirs (who grew up in the blitz). This however is all a straw man. I readily acknowledge children face pressures we never had - more to the point, I believe we've systematically, if unwittingly, made life harder for them by constantly struggling to shape the world around then to give them the most 'perfect' childhood and thus depriving them off all opportunities to learn how to handle life's knocks. My point is that there is a big difference between acknowledging our kids have a different world to what we had and blaming that world for all their problems. There is the usual issue of rose tinted specs, In reality, the world is far less violent than it used to be. I spent a large part of one school year in mortal fear of being given a Chelsea smile - the corners of your mouth slit then punched in the stomach to make you scream and tear the cuts. I've no idea whether this really happened to anyone but we certainly weren't sheltered from violence. I came home from school to a burglar in the house, my sister's class mate was stabbed to death in an alley walking back from the shops, the IRA ran a series of bombings throughout the 80's, the toilets in the local park were full of anatomically detailed graffiti depicting sexual acts (some of which stayed in place for years). Dartford Heath always had its discarded porn mags and dodgy men hanging around - I once found (and treasured) a whole carrier bag of adult magazines, including European ones which weren't censored. These are however just anecdotes, the statistics speak for themselves. However we feel about the country, whatever we believe, in virtually every area of life it is considerably safer than it used to be. Granted, the internet has introduced a raft of new crimes that we didn't have to have but that is always the same with all technology. Anyone thinking that in the past children were protected and safer is really not paying attention, theme been abused and exploited throughout history. My point isn't that life hasn't changed, it's that people haven't. To plaguerise someone far more eloquent than I, if you were able to teleport a 16th century Tibetan, an ancient Babylonian and a Mayan warrior to a cinema to watch this series, you'd have to spend a very very long time explaining all kinds of things about the modern world, it's technology and it's social norms. Once you'd done so however, explaining the behaviour of any of the actors would simply not be necessary. Each and every one of them would understand that part without effort. It isn't the modern world that 'makes' today's children behave the way they do, it is human nature reacting to that world. No amount of trying to make the world around us perfect will ever stop people being cruel, vindictive, hurtful, violent, or indeed, compassionate, trusting, caring, loving. FWIW, I genuinely do believe there is far too much Mary Whitehouse style hand wringing around and not enough effort put into understanding the real causes of social problems. P | |||
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"I think there's a whiff of moral panic about the 'manosphere'. Young men have committed violent crime since year zero, the idea there's something radically new here seems suspect to me." Yes some young men have always committed violence. But 'moral panic'? 🤔 I don't think there's enough tbh. In my teens I was only influenced by my friends, my family, my peer group and those I physically spent time with. I didn't (like most) pay attention to the news, read papers, have any interest in politics and was only concerned with what was occurring in my own social bubble. I didn't mix with people I didn't know or was friends with so they had zero influence on me. I knew who the kids were that I wanted to mix with. I knew the smokers, the drinkers, the shoplifters, those I liked and those I'd rather avoid. I knew the bullys and the bullied, but I only encountered them during school hours. Outside of those hours they were easily avoided. These days it's 24/7 for kids. Their contact with both friends and strangers is constant. Technology, the Internet, social media and smart phone use has put them in the position of constant bombardment of views, opinions, gossip, bullying and 'news' from anywhere and everywhere. And much of that isn't a positive influence and results in negativity, confusion and being steered in the wrong direction. No amount of good parenting, teacher interaction and positive time spent with peers can prevent them being the subject of abuse, bullying and negative behaviour and influence. It's too easy for feelings of isolation and exclusion to lead to falling under the influence of others looking to project their own negative views and inadequacies onto others. And yes, in the case of young men that involves the so called 'manosphere'. I'd rather there was more 'moral panic' about it personally, than ignoring the issue and it just being put down to overreaction. Times have definitely changed and not for the better. Technology has a lot to answer for regarding that. | |||
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"^^ agreed! Do you think it should be considered 'normal' for parents and carers to check their under 16 years old kids phone and internet use regularly? Is there a case for not allowing phones with internet access to children under 16?" This in our house is a given. If the kids don’t like it they don’t need a phone or personal device especially not in their rooms. If we want to do a check they have to hand over….if they don’t it’s confiscated! We’ve always stood by this and the rule that they are also not allowed to delete which is harder to monitor. We have always taught them to speak to others in a way they would in person and not hide behind a screen…the importance of once it’s out there….theres no getting it back. There are certain apps which are banned, and social media limited. In all honesty they have always accepted this. | |||
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""Times have definitely changed and not for the better." The facts don't support that. Teenage pregnancies, drink and drug use among young people have all fallen and are falling. Knife crime rightly gets a lot of attention but the majority is concentrated around gangs and in certain locations and communities. Young women are doing better than ever in education and employment.More young people than ever are going to University. Yes technology brings new problems that need to be addressed, not least underage access to porn, but it also brings hugs opportunities for positive connections. "It's possible to support any argument depending on the stats you choose. I haven't hired the sources but if anyone simply copies and pastes the text it'll take you to them. "In 2022/23, there were around 59,000 arrests of children, a 9% increase from the previous year. In the year ending March 2023, around 13,700 children received a caution or sentence. The number of children cautioned or sentenced in the 10 to 14 year old age group increased by 6%." "There were 12,418 young people (under the age of 18) in contact with alcohol and drug services between April 2022 and March 2023. This is a 10% increase from the previous year (11,326) but a 13% reduction in the number in treatment since 2019 to 2020 (14,291)." "The Mental Health of Children and Young People in England 2023 report, published today by NHS England, found that 20.3% of eight to 16-year-olds had a probable mental disorder in 2023. Among 17 to 19-year-olds, the proportion was 23.3%, while in 20 to 25-year-olds it was 21.7%." "Childline, a non-profit organisation dedicated to providing support for children suffering abuse and neglect, has revealed that in two years, the number of teenagers calling for mental health support has doubled. Likewise, The Children’s Society has noted that 1 in 6 children have a mental health problem and young people are 50% more likely to develop mental health issues than they were 3 years ago. These striking statistics suggest that there is an increase in mental health problems in young people, which is very concerning. There are a multitude of factors that could explain this uptick in children's mental health, but the most significant is the impact of social media." I could list more, but the evidence and research is out there to show that all is not rosy for the youth of today, and many of the issues are directly linked to social media and technology. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"^^ I think it's good for children to have privacy in their social interactions. However allowing them unmonitored access to the net is similar to putting them in a room, alone with every weirdo in the universe and expecting them to deal with it. An understanding parent or carer will skip over the 'oh my god I fancy x' and never mention it. " Do you know what's even better and what young people have asking for. Support services that are suitably funded and meet their needs. To be a able to ask for support and get access to it, when they need it. If they are experiencing bullying, struggling with their mental health, confused about sex, relationships etc. Then they don't speak up because nobody listens and that's why they end up trying to find the answers from weirdos on the internet. Weirdos that understand that they are vulnerable, confused and looking for answers. Realistically, what can be monitored is very limited. And kids can find all kinds of ways around parental controls. Rather than it being a battle to censor - it ought to be a relationship of open and consensual sharing and support. Isn't that the kind of essential lesson we should lead by example on, when it comes to relationships? Young people should feel safe and comfortable to share with the responsible adults in their lives. Feel safe to say, I saw this weirdo online can I talk to you about it. Not oh shit better not tell anyone or I will lose access to the internet and have everything monitored until I am 18. | |||
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"It was a damning portrayal of modern schooling - the teachers so disengaged and unaware of issues such as Andrew Tate impacting pupils. It was a terrifying glimpse into what it's like for parents. The emoji usage was eye-opening. Parents need a guidebook for modern day parenting! I confess to being clueless as to the red pill / manosphere issues, and will do some googling to educate myself. As others have said, it would be great if they had series 2 following the victim. It should be essential watching for all parents. " I said exactly the same thing about a series 2 - that would brilliant if they could pull it off to the same level of quality and realism. I also said the same about the school, well except that it's accurate and in some cases an understated reflection. What I can say is the kid, in the scene with the Psychologist doing the assessment says several times. 'Are we allowed to talk about this?' Why is it that the only time he got to talk about his feelings around sex, women and relationships with a professional - occurred after the crime? What would have happened if he had got to speak to a professional earlier, before the crime, whose therapeutic skills where being used therapeutically - rather than for a psychological assessment in connection with a murder? That for me, is what needs to change. | |||
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" What I can say is the kid, in the scene with the Psychologist doing the assessment says several times. 'Are we allowed to talk about this?' Why is it that the only time he got to talk about his feelings around sex, women and relationships with a professional - occurred after the crime? What would have happened if he had got to speak to a professional earlier, before the crime, whose therapeutic skills where being used therapeutically - rather than for a psychological assessment in connection with a murder? That for me, is what needs to change." How would you identify those kids though? To all intents and purposes he was flying under the radar It would also be great to have an episode focused on conversations with friends and their internet usage and attitudes etc. And I'd love to be a fly on the wall for a therapist session with his Dad! Yeah, I want to see more basically! It was chilling. | |||
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" What I can say is the kid, in the scene with the Psychologist doing the assessment says several times. 'Are we allowed to talk about this?' Why is it that the only time he got to talk about his feelings around sex, women and relationships with a professional - occurred after the crime? What would have happened if he had got to speak to a professional earlier, before the crime, whose therapeutic skills where being used therapeutically - rather than for a psychological assessment in connection with a murder? That for me, is what needs to change. How would you identify those kids though? To all intents and purposes he was flying under the radar It would also be great to have an episode focused on conversations with friends and their internet usage and attitudes etc. And I'd love to be a fly on the wall for a therapist session with his Dad! Yeah, I want to see more basically! It was chilling. " Honestly, I could go on for days about that one 🤣. You have already nailed it in essence though the detachment, not being available or aware. It's not easy to reach out when someone is detached. Agreed, it would be fascinating to see how the toxic misconceptions formulated through those peer dynamics and the influence of the internet activity. Also where that interfaces with the adults around them and where the opportunities for intervention where missed. Such a good performance by Stephen Graham it's almost as if he grew up in Liverpool in a working class family. 😁 | |||
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"Interesting that parents and teaching unions are now calling for more entrenched lessons on misogyny now off the back of the series. " It's a big thing in Safeguarding training at the moment. | |||
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"Interesting that parents and teaching unions are now calling for more entrenched lessons on misogyny now off the back of the series. It's a big thing in Safeguarding training at the moment. " Yes, it's interesting that this series is being mentioned specifically. Some schools have asked for it to be shown to pupils to help facilitate discussions at home. Not sure where there is time in the curriculum for this plus the follow up discussions and whatnot though. | |||
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"Interesting that parents and teaching unions are now calling for more entrenched lessons on misogyny now off the back of the series. It's a big thing in Safeguarding training at the moment. Yes, it's interesting that this series is being mentioned specifically. Some schools have asked for it to be shown to pupils to help facilitate discussions at home. Not sure where there is time in the curriculum for this plus the follow up discussions and whatnot though. " My daughter is studying it in psychology in high school. Plenty of time | |||
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"Interesting that parents and teaching unions are now calling for more entrenched lessons on misogyny now off the back of the series. It's a big thing in Safeguarding training at the moment. Yes, it's interesting that this series is being mentioned specifically. Some schools have asked for it to be shown to pupils to help facilitate discussions at home. Not sure where there is time in the curriculum for this plus the follow up discussions and whatnot though. My daughter is studying it in psychology in high school. Plenty of time " In Psychology. But not many kids do that. In a large school with say 300 per year group it would be curriculum time taken from other subjects that all kids do, not a select few. That leaves core subjects and pshe which already is jam packed full of content to cover (government prescribed). 4 hours of watching, and a couple of lessons follow up. That's a whole half term. It's a lot across a year. Not saying it's impossible but other things will have to give - that's the challenge. | |||
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"What's it about Watch it. It's not something easily explained. But it's something that will stay with you and make you think. If you are a parent or not it's something that I think personally everyone should watch,I'd say it's more of a public information film rather than entertainment. Thought-provoking and intense. It's about a kid that killed another kid and the manosphere online world. I thought it started off better than it ended. " I thought the ending was amazing, powerful and portraying a family destroyed through no real fault of their own Stephen Graham gave the performance of his life in that episode and it was so visceral and raw in his own responses and reflecting on his own ACES (Adverse Childhood Experiences) and how those may have impacted on his own Child.. . I thought the whole series was incredible. The Incel movement is increasing and ready to radicalise and prey on the vulnerable. Kids who probably don't have secure backgrounds, stable friends and don't have a sense of belonging, the are more susceptible to child criminal exploitation. Also Peer on Peer bullying is another huge thing in Safeguarding at the moment which again is highlighted in Adolescence.... We know that we can all do better. | |||
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"Interesting to see how many people are missing the point of this show." Please tell us? | |||
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