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"Agree, it's a dive lately. One of the main things the drew me back to fab was the forum, and some of the characters I recalled from 2015/2016. I rejoined last year and I thought it was dead then, nothing compared to now! ![]() Give it another year Bella ! ![]() | |||
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"I think you are right about the loss of enjoyable threads and probably a few reasons: Interesting and funny people who were very active in lockdown drifting back to normal life. Alternative spaces, private groups, other Apps. Too many political and social issue threads in the Lounge, a huge turn off for many people. A small but active group who are very intolerant of alternative opinions and work hard to drive those who voice them away. But it's also no big deal. No one is forced to be here so if its become boring we only have ourselves to blame for hanging about! 🤦♂️" I get what you mean, I think regardless of what side of the political and social spectrum you find yourself on, it's probably more divisive than it's been in my lifetime at least which can lead to people walking on eggshells and people from both sides shouting each other down. Maybe that's been reflected in how busy the forums are. | |||
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"I've been using the forums for about 6 years and I think "popularity" is a big factor in changes. Some of those popular posters are no longer contributing simply because they can't. As moderators have told us often enough, no-one can get someone banned from the forums, only their own words can do that. Therefore that drive to be popular means they have crossed the lines and been removed and as far as I'm concerned that's a positive. I agree that it can be drab and dreary at times but I have started approx 200 threads in my time here and am reluctant to do so anymore mainly because of the underlying need to turn everything political or weaponise what is often a light hearted thread or someone genuinely trying to find answers. There are a core group who keep the fires burning and even though I contribute to very few of their threads, I applaud their efforts. There are also unfortunately a small but significant group who feel the need to launch stealth bombs and then play the victim card. Anyone paying attention will know exactly who the first responders will be in those threads. It's not an open or inviting place for newbies and I would hazard a guess that the numbers of those lurking without commenting has increased because they just don't want the hassle. " 100% agree ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 01/03/25 17:06:00]" I saw that and you're not boring at all Jools ! ![]() | |||
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" But it's also no big deal. No one is forced to be here so if its become boring we only have ourselves to blame for hanging about! 🤦♂️" This is true, I am toyinh with the idea of joining unlos. But I have 2 weeks worth of site supporter left that I've paid for so I'll see after that ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think the lounge specifically is nicer without the influx of fast paced 'fun' threads that a mostly regular bunch would commandeer. " Absolutely!!! Thank youuuuuu for the games section 🙌🏻 | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts?" Agree ![]() | |||
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"I think you are right about the loss of enjoyable threads and probably a few reasons: Interesting and funny people who were very active in lockdown drifting back to normal life. Alternative spaces, private groups, other Apps. Too many political and social issue threads in the Lounge, a huge turn off for many people. A small but active group who are very intolerant of alternative opinions and work hard to drive those who voice them away. But it's also no big deal. No one is forced to be here so if it’s become boring we only have ourselves to blame for hanging about! 🤦♂️" lockdown was the same for those threads in the lounge. Especially when there were BLM protests and posters in here said absolutely abhorrent things. | |||
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"Agree, it's a dive lately. One of the main things the drew me back to fab was the forum, and some of the characters I recalled from 2015/2016. I rejoined last year and I thought it was dead then, nothing compared to now! It's been discussed a few times lately and I really think some people worry that giving their opinion, or heaven forbid, having a laugh will get them either a time out or targeted by other posters. I'd definitely say it's not as inclusive or welcoming anymore. ![]() I've had more sex on the Fab naughty step than anywhere else ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I disagree. People have been saying this sort of thing for years, including in the 'good old days'. So I doubt that anything has really changed ![]() Your Titz have gotten bigger? ![]() | |||
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"I disagree. People have been saying this sort of thing for years, including in the 'good old days'. So I doubt that anything has really changed ![]() ![]() Naturally ![]() | |||
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"The moderation of threads doesn't concern me. I rarely create threads these days. The fora is well and truly alive but I'll question the diversity and the banality. I created five 'lifestyle' threads the other week but they gained little traction because most people found the "who's wanking right now" more appealing and interesting. That says a lot more about the audience and the participants as opposed to 'popularity'. From past experiences I tried to inject unique threads, threads which gave some variety to the fora. Within 15 minutes those threads languished on page 3 of the lounge. This wasn't down to their unpopularity or because of the lack of responses, it was more about the usual suspects flooding and saturating the forum with regurgitated threads. A 'green arrow' on some of the posters would reveal that they had 'contributed' approximately 25 threads in the last 24 hours! What this means is that I'm left feeling disenfranchised and wondering if it's really worth it. It's hard to be candid about such things without it not coming across as sour grapes." You were one of the posters I was applauding above because your threads are often unique but as much as I enjoy the forums in general I am feeling the slow drift towards the land of the lurkers. I can scroll down the entirety of the first page in the lounge some days and not even open a single thread. That decision is sometimes down to thread titles that I have no interest in or the blunderbus approach of those who need to be relevant every day with multiples of multiple threads. I reached a stage a while back where I sometimes post just to remind others that I haven't gone away in spite of their sterling efforts. | |||
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"I think some of the threads have changed. There's many more where men are looking to chat about their wives, swap their pics or underwear and that puts me off. Also I feel more lurkers will send dms nowadays, when they've not contributed to the thread. Often they just want to get themselves off or be creepy in these messages. That's off putting too and limits which threads I'd comment on. At the min I have my filters age 85 upwards, so it's nice and peaceful. " You might get lots of offers from the nearest care home ![]() | |||
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"Was there a time when it wasn't full of threads show men so insecure about the size of their dick? " Mines average, and that's just fine with me 👍🤓 | |||
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"Agree, it's a dive lately. One of the main things the drew me back to fab was the forum, and some of the characters I recalled from 2015/2016. I rejoined last year and I thought it was dead then, nothing compared to now! It's been discussed a few times lately and I really think some people worry that giving their opinion, or heaven forbid, having a laugh will get them either a time out or targeted by other posters. I'd definitely say it's not as inclusive or welcoming anymore. ![]() I’m only newish to the forum but this quote to me reflects society as a whole over the last 10 years. We are more divided, nuance and context has been lost and it seems you have to be one side or the other. So I’m wondering has the forum and the site itself developed as society has? | |||
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"I think you are right about the loss of enjoyable threads and probably a few reasons: Interesting and funny people who were very active in lockdown drifting back to normal life. Alternative spaces, private groups, other Apps. Too many political and social issue threads in the Lounge, a huge turn off for many people. A small but active group who are very intolerant of alternative opinions and work hard to drive those who voice them away. But it's also no big deal. No one is forced to be here so if its become boring we only have ourselves to blame for hanging about! 🤦♂️" All true .. I occasionally have a peek still to see if it's improved ![]() | |||
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"I spent ages writing a comment, but couldn’t make it say what I was trying to convey and then just thought, fuck it , and deleted it. Is this kind of apathy killing the forum, are people not posting because they think they’ll get stick for their comments, or can people just not be bothered with it all? 🤷🏻♂️" Both with me ![]() | |||
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" Posters come and go -You've gotta ask yourself how much effort are you willing to put in, to cultivate a culture and community ❤️😎" I get that but as Nero says earlier, it soon gets dispiriting to start threads that get ignored or derailed. I no longer start them for that reason. | |||
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"Main problem with the Fab forum is the small band of cause junkies jumping on anything that strays outside of their sphere of acceptance or that gives them the opportunity to be offended on someones behalf, who have slowly sucked the joy and banter out of this and life in general. Been round this for 20 years this month, it used to be so much fun- the piss taking, insults and general ragging of each other was non stop, but never taken seriously- the parties were epic and the moment we had a man down, you had dozens of people shoulder to shoulder with you to help. Weddings, far too many funerals and even a national missing person search i've witnessed. Somewhere along the way, things stopped being an online swinging community and morphed in to a meat market- social media has also changed the world massively and not really for the best...anyone got a time machine i can borrow, i'll bring it back yesterday?c ![]() Spot on mate, can barely say fuck all in in jest without it being jumped on, these same “be nice to all” types more than happy to call you whatever just for daring to have a different view to theirs | |||
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"Main problem with the Fab forum is the small band of cause junkies jumping on anything that strays outside of their sphere of acceptance or that gives them the opportunity to be offended on someones behalf, who have slowly sucked the joy and banter out of this and life in general. Been round this for 20 years this month, it used to be so much fun- the piss taking, insults and general ragging of each other was non stop, but never taken seriously- the parties were epic and the moment we had a man down, you had dozens of people shoulder to shoulder with you to help. Weddings, far too many funerals and even a national missing person search i've witnessed. Somewhere along the way, things stopped being an online swinging community and morphed in to a meat market- social media has also changed the world massively and not really for the best...anyone got a time machine i can borrow, i'll bring it back yesterday?c ![]() Couldn't have put it better myself. ![]() | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads." Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() Yep, those 2 and a few others do. I don’t want to name names and end up excluding people but themselves and Nero definitely spring to mind. | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() I’ve always thought Midnight is good for this too. | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() And LLB, but even she's backed off. | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() Absolutely! ![]() | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() Also ![]() | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() ![]() Disclaimer - for the avoidance of doubt, others have also been known to display the same positive behaviours. | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() ![]() 🎯 | |||
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"The fact most threads have the usual posters responding to the same people they always do and ignoring newer perspectives or observations is also probably a contributing factor to the lack of community feeling. There are a few people who engage with the wider users but they seem to be the minority of threads. Shout out to Mobilebottom and Minxy777 who include everyone in their threads. ![]() ![]() There are a few that do. And in all fairness it takes some dedication! I start a thread with good intentions but then life gets in the way and I forget to check back ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts?" I don't post as much as I used too....The Forum isn't as friendly as it used to be at all. | |||
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"I think the lounge specifically is nicer without the influx of fast paced 'fun' threads that a mostly regular bunch would commandeer. " What 'fun' threads ? Do you mean the yes/no type of thread ? | |||
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"Like everything in life ,it's what you make it . Don't like certain topics, then scroll by or start one that interests you . I've been around since 2012 and the forums evolve all the time . I dip in and out these days and manage to miss most of the 'forum politics and drama' I also just choose to avoid negativity. That's actually the main reason I rarely venture in the Scotland forum these days. It used to be a fun place back in the day. However people move on and things change. Ultimately it's strangers on the Internet, if you're lucky they might become friends. " 100% | |||
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"As you know I post a lot. Still enjoy the forum . I hope that I am inclusive . I never try to offend just light hearted fun gets you through life . ![]() Dude you're my kind of Forum user .. Always fun threads and great subject matter ❤️ | |||
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"As you know I post a lot. Still enjoy the forum . I hope that I am inclusive . I never try to offend just light hearted fun gets you through life . ![]() Well said. I call him Bossman ![]() | |||
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"As you know I post a lot. Still enjoy the forum . I hope that I am inclusive . I never try to offend just light hearted fun gets you through life . ![]() ![]() Indeed Mr Blooms ![]() | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts?" I know some people claim to have been here 20 years but that's impossible and for quite a good reason but one or two people are not far off two decades. I used to enjoy the lounge a lot more - I still enjoy it a little and there are quite a lot of reasons , I guess for everybody, why the way I sense the lounge differs over the years. What began as an internet site for swingers to use for a variety of reasons metamorphed into a pocket mobile site that is used by anyone anywhere who wants to use it - not just earnest swingers / those open to more casual sex. People no longer had to be at home or in the office alone. They access at any given moment in their day and their user habits became akin to shallow feeders or scavengers like foxes , a bit here and and a bit there. This had the effect of diluting the sense of community where users understood the others attitude to sex as a human freedom and changing the ethos from those with that shared interest to someone yelling on the street gizza shag, see my knob! Show us ya tits every five minutes. For me the place changed ( i'm talking forum ) from a place where space and time were needed in a secure place and for which people set aside some time to a 24/7 fish pond where people bob in , quack , and bob out. That's only one reason and I cba with the rest apart from listing them. 1. It's not the novelty or the taboo it used to be. 2. It's been replicated many times over so there is far more choice. 3. What was once 'undercover' is now spoken about more openly and people have less need for such sites / the forum. 4. Society changes and this is a biggy for me..... the fucking perpetual do gooders and whiners and professionally ill and defenseless, have given communities and societies the inability to speak their truth, whilst the fabricated 'hurt' without substantiation is given precedence. Try passing an open , honest , respectful opinion and watch the eternally offended scream and kick, one after the other as if they have been given the right to cry hurt with impunity ...... oh wait...... they have and I believe the internet is probably one of their final few screaming places as society wakes up to the adverse effects of going too far. Enough already, In brief the people AND the way people use the forums have changed. I miss the bright people, the funny pleasant , caring , opinionated forum users whose personalities you could feel through the ether. It never used to feel like Samaritans in the past. It does now. Last and not least , I'm nearly 20 years older. If I tried to say I haven't changed in two decades, I'd be denying my own tremendous capacity to learn and grow ( watch some tit jump on that ) Plus - sex these days is like grating a flaccid frankfurter between two slices of dry toast ( oh shut up that is my favourite joke / lie at the moment ) It does take a few minutes and a slow hand to wake up tho - no constant readiness in this model and it shows itself by lack of persuants. That changes how I experience my time here.......most people only speak to 'something' they want to fuck and if they do speak it isn't particularly kind as older people become 'jokes' are dispensable kicking boards....... I've adjusted my use accordingly and in the absence of others the forums are left like a toilet wall - the odd banal comment and every now n then a contact number. | |||
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"I've not noticed any changes really since 2008. People come, people go, there's new favourites, new regular posters, new lurkers, new fall outs and spates of angst. It's all largely the same with different faces. As for is it harder to moderate? Wouldn't know as I've not been doing it long enough to judge. Anyone who's been here a while will have at some point probably crossed a line or two (I'll put my hands up to that a few years back) and suffered the consequences. But yes - only people themselves can get themselves in trouble, nobody else. Rules are after all rules and they're there for all to see. If people think the forums have changed I'd agree with some that it's as likely they've changed themselves and the changing population will of course influence their viewpoints. I don't miss the days of constant bun fights at all. Maybe I'm just a little older and a little wiser now, and don't get baited, wound up and tempted to react as much anymore. It's a much more peaceful existence for sure. 🤷♂️" Absolutely this. Whilst I've not been around *quite* as long as Obi, this style of thread has been going on for over a decade, whenever there's a quieter period. There is a quieter period right now. For people who discusss how welcoming/friendly it is... why don't you be the change that you want to see? Or at least a step in the right direction. Speak to people in threads, new posters etc. Create a more positive atmosphere? Care enough to do more than complain when this style of thread comes around. Bring humour to threads that's not at the expense of others. Inclusivity doesn't just mean replying to everyone in a simple thread. It's how they're replied to. The lack of little digs etc. Not dominating threads with content others can't engage in when it's quite easy to take that chat away from the forums. Even how people view inclusivity, who is, can be so different. All that being said, the past year I've been investing less and less time in to the forums. I know that's down to me, my attitude/life changing rather than some great big shift in the fora. It still works for me though. I don't have to be here. And it can't be that bad if you have people desperate to return. ![]() | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts? I know some people claim to have been here 20 years but that's impossible and for quite a good reason but one or two people are not far off two decades. I used to enjoy the lounge a lot more - I still enjoy it a little and there are quite a lot of reasons , I guess for everybody, why the way I sense the lounge differs over the years. What began as an internet site for swingers to use for a variety of reasons metamorphed into a pocket mobile site that is used by anyone anywhere who wants to use it - not just earnest swingers / those open to more casual sex. People no longer had to be at home or in the office alone. They access at any given moment in their day and their user habits became akin to shallow feeders or scavengers like foxes , a bit here and and a bit there. This had the effect of diluting the sense of community where users understood the others attitude to sex as a human freedom and changing the ethos from those with that shared interest to someone yelling on the street gizza shag, see my knob! Show us ya tits every five minutes. For me the place changed ( i'm talking forum ) from a place where space and time were needed in a secure place and for which people set aside some time to a 24/7 fish pond where people bob in , quack , and bob out. That's only one reason and I cba with the rest apart from listing them. 1. It's not the novelty or the taboo it used to be. 2. It's been replicated many times over so there is far more choice. 3. What was once 'undercover' is now spoken about more openly and people have less need for such sites / the forum. 4. Society changes and this is a biggy for me..... the fucking perpetual do gooders and whiners and professionally ill and defenseless, have given communities and societies the inability to speak their truth, whilst the fabricated 'hurt' without substantiation is given precedence. Try passing an open , honest , respectful opinion and watch the eternally offended scream and kick, one after the other as if they have been given the right to cry hurt with impunity ...... oh wait...... they have and I believe the internet is probably one of their final few screaming places as society wakes up to the adverse effects of going too far. Enough already, In brief the people AND the way people use the forums have changed. I miss the bright people, the funny pleasant , caring , opinionated forum users whose personalities you could feel through the ether. It never used to feel like Samaritans in the past. It does now. Last and not least , I'm nearly 20 years older. If I tried to say I haven't changed in two decades, I'd be denying my own tremendous capacity to learn and grow ( watch some tit jump on that ) Plus - sex these days is like grating a flaccid frankfurter between two slices of dry toast ( oh shut up that is my favourite joke / lie at the moment ) It does take a few minutes and a slow hand to wake up tho - no constant readiness in this model and it shows itself by lack of persuants. That changes how I experience my time here.......most people only speak to 'something' they want to fuck and if they do speak it isn't particularly kind as older people become 'jokes' are dispensable kicking boards....... I've adjusted my use accordingly and in the absence of others the forums are left like a toilet wall - the odd banal comment and every now n then a contact number. " Granny your a legend ![]() | |||
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"The forums change all the time. I change all the time. Sometimes we are in sync and other times we are not. I do think the forums have become less tolerant of the “non correct” views over time which leads to more of a mono culture but that goes for many places on the internet. " Really valid point. Online interaction overall has become both more politicised and polarised in last five years. This trend appearing in the Lounge has undoubtedly driven lots of interesting people away. Ironically I find the Politics Section to be more tolerant and diverse now. | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts? I know some people claim to have been here 20 years but that's impossible and for quite a good reason but one or two people are not far off two decades. I used to enjoy the lounge a lot more - I still enjoy it a little and there are quite a lot of reasons , I guess for everybody, why the way I sense the lounge differs over the years. What began as an internet site for swingers to use for a variety of reasons metamorphed into a pocket mobile site that is used by anyone anywhere who wants to use it - not just earnest swingers / those open to more casual sex. People no longer had to be at home or in the office alone. They access at any given moment in their day and their user habits became akin to shallow feeders or scavengers like foxes , a bit here and and a bit there. This had the effect of diluting the sense of community where users understood the others attitude to sex as a human freedom and changing the ethos from those with that shared interest to someone yelling on the street gizza shag, see my knob! Show us ya tits every five minutes. For me the place changed ( i'm talking forum ) from a place where space and time were needed in a secure place and for which people set aside some time to a 24/7 fish pond where people bob in , quack , and bob out. That's only one reason and I cba with the rest apart from listing them. 1. It's not the novelty or the taboo it used to be. 2. It's been replicated many times over so there is far more choice. 3. What was once 'undercover' is now spoken about more openly and people have less need for such sites / the forum. 4. Society changes and this is a biggy for me..... the fucking perpetual do gooders and whiners and professionally ill and defenseless, have given communities and societies the inability to speak their truth, whilst the fabricated 'hurt' without substantiation is given precedence. Try passing an open , honest , respectful opinion and watch the eternally offended scream and kick, one after the other as if they have been given the right to cry hurt with impunity ...... oh wait...... they have and I believe the internet is probably one of their final few screaming places as society wakes up to the adverse effects of going too far. Enough already, In brief the people AND the way people use the forums have changed. I miss the bright people, the funny pleasant , caring , opinionated forum users whose personalities you could feel through the ether. It never used to feel like Samaritans in the past. It does now. Last and not least , I'm nearly 20 years older. If I tried to say I haven't changed in two decades, I'd be denying my own tremendous capacity to learn and grow ( watch some tit jump on that ) Plus - sex these days is like grating a flaccid frankfurter between two slices of dry toast ( oh shut up that is my favourite joke / lie at the moment ) It does take a few minutes and a slow hand to wake up tho - no constant readiness in this model and it shows itself by lack of persuants. That changes how I experience my time here.......most people only speak to 'something' they want to fuck and if they do speak it isn't particularly kind as older people become 'jokes' are dispensable kicking boards....... I've adjusted my use accordingly and in the absence of others the forums are left like a toilet wall - the odd banal comment and every now n then a contact number. " And they said War And Peace was a long read ![]() | |||
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"Back when , the nocturnal, the host and hostess's included everyone " Ahhh I really miss the nocturnal threads - that was mostly how newbies eased their way into the forum. I have so much admiration for Jim, Ash + Lorna -the amount of time it takes to reply to every person on the thread is incredible and you literally cannot do anything else. I miss those threads the most. | |||
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"I know some people claim to have been here 20 years but that's impossible and for quite a good reason but one or two people are not far off two decades. ... I've adjusted my use accordingly and in the absence of others the forums are left like a toilet wall - the odd banal comment and every now n then a contact number. " Granny I cropped you down to size to "quote" you so I could say I liked your observations and thoughts... Although I'm just a whippersnapper by comparison 😉😊😊😊😊😘 | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts?" You really want to have this conversation.. if we do I can guarantee some will get offended It goes through swings and roundabouts A couple of things 1) sometimes it just feels like some people are “trying too hard “ and those people have kinda taken over … I look at a subject, can almost guess who started it.. and I honestly think “meh” 2) unless a subject is saccharine sweet… one person screams “ don’t like it “ or “politics” and it gets removed …. I don’t think it encouraged participation beyond whatever the in group is at the moment (and we have been long enough to see them come and go) 3) you used to be able to talk current events in the forum in generalities and “politics” was for more in depth conversations… now it’s the dumping ground I need brain stimulation… have a look on page 1 and count how many thread titles would do that….hand on heart | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() This is a view that I would totally agree with in most areas of life. When the change that is being talked about is only a year or so old I think it is much less likely that rose tinting is the actual reason. Look at Fabio's comment, he's spot on. With the exception of the thread on the definition of pan sexuality, there is nothing on page 1 that offers the chance of learning new ideas, new ways of setting the world, how other people think differently etc. P | |||
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"Back when , the nocturnal, the host and hostess's included everyone Ahhh I really miss the nocturnal threads - that was mostly how newbies eased their way into the forum. I have so much admiration for Jim, Ash + Lorna -the amount of time it takes to reply to every person on the thread is incredible and you literally cannot do anything else. I miss those threads the most. " I did a few and was absolutely drained ! Amazing they did it for so long and so well.👏 | |||
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"Back when , the nocturnal, the host and hostess's included everyone Ahhh I really miss the nocturnal threads - that was mostly how newbies eased their way into the forum. I have so much admiration for Jim, Ash + Lorna -the amount of time it takes to reply to every person on the thread is incredible and you literally cannot do anything else. I miss those threads the most. " · It was exhausting work and relentless, but rewarding to see lurkers emerge from the shadows and feel included. After 2½ years it totally ruined my sleep pattern. | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() Do you feel that is the purpose of these forums? | |||
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"Used to be tremendously busy, thread's in the lounge would fly by, and popular posters thread's would fill up very quickly. Saturday night quiz night, lot's of mild arguments some banter plenty of time outs, but never a dull moment. Things have changed so much in the past few years it's like pulling teeth on here at times it's so slow. Lockdown changed things but so many people have left it's definitely not as fun as it was. I wonder what the long time members think and maybe moderators has it become more difficult to moderate with people getting more easily offended now or has it always been the same? Thoughts? You really want to have this conversation.. if we do I can guarantee some will get offended It goes through swings and roundabouts A couple of things 1) sometimes it just feels like some people are “trying too hard “ and those people have kinda taken over … I look at a subject, can almost guess who started it.. and I honestly think “meh” 2) unless a subject is saccharine sweet… one person screams “ don’t like it “ or “politics” and it gets removed …. I don’t think it encouraged participation beyond whatever the in group is at the moment (and we have been long enough to see them come and go) 3) you used to be able to talk current events in the forum in generalities and “politics” was for more in depth conversations… now it’s the dumping ground I need brain stimulation… have a look on page 1 and count how many thread titles would do that….hand on heart " Fabio please sit down as I agree with you. ![]() | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() Can I give you an example which kinda makes the point of what I’m talking about On the last Saturday before we all got the announcement that we were going to be locked down… we were having discussions about whether people were going out or not.. and they were wide and varied and thoughtful and diverse.. it was the same conversations everyone else was having.. and it was in the forum Now days that would be shuffled off to politics or virus because someone would have complained If I think of something that is thought provoking.. it might be light, or serious.. but I’ll start it… I’m not starting thread just for the sake of starting a thread ( I get the feeling some do) Stimulation breeds conversation | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() I'm not sure there is a specific purpose and, if there was, I'm not sure you'd get anyone to agree what it was. Having different categories (politics/fantasies/specific locations) etc gives a clear indication of what to expect but a lounge is what the people in it make it. It may not be the purpose but it is a part of the lounge I, and clearly others, have noticed used to be there and isn't now. Perhaps the purpose of the lounge is in fact to score the profile pic of the person above and state whether you'd snog, shag or (insert whatever activity you think sounds amusing) them. | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() I agree that stimulation breeds conversation and vice versa but I think it's unrealistic to expect forums to cater to everyone. As I said earlier they'll reflect the majority of contributors. All any of us can do is contribute in a way that suits us best. | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() Who knows 🤷♀️. All I do know is that if those sort of threads had no replies they wouldn't be posted | |||
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"I think people remember the past with rose tinted glasses, whether it was the war, the pub or this forum, seems it was great in the past. We used to have a jolly old knees up and a sing song and call each kind sir…. ![]() Fabios original point about the way this and other outlets are now controlled and sanitised to appease the career butthurt brigade is a significant thing. I'm sure he well remembers the halcyon days of the old SH forum when it was privately owned- active, friendly, entertaining, funny, thought provoking but generally always welcoming and supportive to those who made an effort to find their own space. Then it was sold to a commercial company who pretty much destroyed the entire vibe in a speed the current rulers of his homeland would be impressed with...coincidently around the same time Fab suddenly became a lot more popular. It has gone the same way round here the last 4-5 years, although not particularly at the heavy hand of the owners- more just society in general and people are tired of treading on eggshells now- life is way more stressful, this was always an escape valve. Someone mentioned 'Strangers on the internet', it never used to be like that, it was a proper community, but if people have no urge to hang round then there will be far fewer friendships forged with an ever revolving door of new posters. I saw a woman in her early 20's say something interesting on TV recently, regarding the dating scene and how so many under 30's are very 'Me!Me!Me!- Now!Now!Now!'. If you combine a dull and unwelcoming forum with that self driven instant gratification, things don't really look good for the future ![]() | |||
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"Back when , the nocturnal, the host and hostess's included everyone Ahhh I really miss the nocturnal threads - that was mostly how newbies eased their way into the forum. I have so much admiration for Jim, Ash + Lorna -the amount of time it takes to reply to every person on the thread is incredible and you literally cannot do anything else. I miss those threads the most. · It was exhausting work and relentless, but rewarding to see lurkers emerge from the shadows and feel included. After 2½ years it totally ruined my sleep pattern." I think Jim only managed it because he was/is truly nocturnal | |||
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"I didn’t realise it was that deep. " · We're all deeply entrenched like the Mariana Trench. | |||
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"I didn’t realise it was that deep. ![]() I don’t mean it horribly. I just didn’t realise it was that deep. I use the forums for fun. I post to create my own fun. I engage with threads I like and don’t with the ones I don’t like at all. The place hasn’t changed to me it’s just different posters posting. | |||
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"I didn’t realise it was that deep. ![]() I know you didn't, just felt like using the Boomer thumb. People place varying levels of importance on things don't they? And maybe it seems like it is deeper to some posters because we can't read tone, we don't really know them as such and it might seem like they're really vexed but actually they're just having a toilet break and typing. Who knows. | |||
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"I didn’t realise it was that deep. ![]() Oh god! Is it called the 'boomer' thumb? 😭 | |||
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"I didn’t realise it was that deep. ![]() Yep, that's the official name for it. Sorry to share the bad news. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I know some people claim to have been here 20 years but that's impossible and for quite a good reason but one or two people are not far off two decades. ... I've adjusted my use accordingly and in the absence of others the forums are left like a toilet wall - the odd banal comment and every now n then a contact number. Granny I cropped you down to size to "quote" you so I could say I liked your observations and thoughts... Although I'm just a whippersnapper by comparison 😉😊😊😊😊😘" A whippersnapper maybe but a timeless forumite, friendly , forward n fun. | |||
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"It won't be a boomer that called it the boomer thumb..... that's for certain. " You're right there Granny. | |||
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"It won't be a boomer that called it the boomer thumb..... that's for certain. " Love the Boomer thumb GC. Positive, affirmative, a big Yes ! ![]() | |||
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"I think perhaps the most obvious symptom is the threads themselves. Of the first 15 threads at present, two have been started today, many are weeks old, one over a year. Don't get me wrong, and old thread revived can be interesting but when a community that used to have lively debate, random discussions and thought provoking opinions is reduced to a desultory trickle of comments on weeks old threads I'd suggest something has changed. Whether that is a good or a bad thing depends entirely on what you want from the place I guess." Actually, scratch this, I was on a list of threads we've replied to not the main list ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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