FabSwingers.com forum: Is the Woke Culture Destroying us?

By *non-ita OP Man
8 weeks ago

withywood

Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *exxerMan
8 weeks ago

Livingston

I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ittle Miss TinkerbellWoman
8 weeks ago

your head

Are they though? I don't feel like I'm always walking on eggshells personally. Not sure what is "woke" about not deliberately offending people, isn't that just not being an arsehole?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *alandNitaCouple
8 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

If by "Woke", you mean being alert prejudice & discrimination... then I doubt it.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
8 weeks ago

East Sussex

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

Can you give an example of a situation where you felt you were walking on eggshells?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *MisschiefxTV/TS
8 weeks ago

London

Spend less time online.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
8 weeks ago

Stoke

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy. "

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *r John WickMan
8 weeks ago

The Continental

I just avoid people.

It’s far less complicated an existence.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ellhungvweMan
8 weeks ago

Cheltenham

"I just avoid people.

It’s far less complicated an existence.

Wise words

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

I struggle with they/them because my brain thinks that means plural. I have solved it by simply using the persons name, no he or she or they problem solved , not woke just polite

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ealitybitesMan
8 weeks ago

Belfast

The people I surround myself with don't require special treatment.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eordieJeansCouple
8 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I just assume everyone who uses the word woke doesn’t actually know what it means.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 19:29:16]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ools and the brainCouple
8 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F. "

Same.

I got a bollocking from my daughter because I asked about her partner's sister who had a new " them friend" I casually asked how her new boyfriend was and she went off at me saying "dad it's them or they"

I'm like what the fucking hell "they" are not even in the same county as us having this conversation, how are "they" going to know or be offended??

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *heekyCharmMan
8 weeks ago

Colne

"Are they though? I don't feel like I'm always walking on eggshells personally. Not sure what is "woke" about not deliberately offending people, isn't that just not being an arsehole? "
All of this!!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ruceyyMan
8 weeks ago

London

I just tell everyone I want to fuck them. Works terribly for me.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ools and the brainCouple
8 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I just avoid people.

It’s far less complicated an existence.

A mantra I try to live by.

I'm just about to go to my cave and shout at anyone who passes.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ools and the brainCouple
8 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F.

Same.

I'm like what the fucking hell "they" are not even in the same county as us having this conversation, how are "they" going to know or be offended??

I didn't even know that they was a them at the time

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eordieJeansCouple
8 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I’m what you would consider “woke” or a “lefty”. I also have a very offensive sense of humour. I find things that don’t align with my beliefs funny because I can take a joke a face value. So no, I don’t think it will stop me making friends or having relationships.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ortyairCouple
8 weeks ago

Wallasey

"I just assume everyone who uses the word woke doesn’t actually know what it means. "
So what does it mean?

Mrs x

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

Its for the real bastards to hide behind.

Like the 'others' in my 'spectrum' who belittle me by saying that im not a: 'real woman' (like they claim to be) because i don't take synthetic hormones and get surgeries or have my own hair...

...As if having breasts or having long hair makes someone a woman anyway...

...They should meet my real woman friends who are suffering from disease and who have lost breasts and their hair... They are more woman than they'll ever be.

The hatred comes also from our 'own' kind... The poor, afflicted minorities...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ommy trucker1Man
8 weeks ago

south wales

There seems to be no reasoning with a woke person they are right you your wrong attitude. They believe the hype the believe and follow a narrative which is spun for them a woke person is not an AWAKE person. The woke agenda is destructive.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ib.Man
8 weeks ago

Hampshire

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

No?

Only if you let it?

If you are truly being yourself and it's preventing you making a good connection then they aren't right for you.

We only live once - I couldn't care less how others choose to live their lives.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *elix SightedMan
8 weeks ago

Cloud 8

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

I don’t think I’ve ever felt like I’m walking on eggshells. Surely there’s a middle ground between woke as fuck and total cunt? That’s where you’re likely to find most people being their true selves.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

All that matters is being a nice human being.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *agatoXXXMan
8 weeks ago

Gone and completely forgotten.

"All that matters is being a nice human being."

⬆️This⬆️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

If being “your true self” is based upon being a knob to people, then yeah I can understand why this may be difficult for someone.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *MisschiefxTV/TS
8 weeks ago

London

"I just assume everyone who uses the word woke doesn’t actually know what it means. So what does it mean?

Mrs x"

It's a catch all boogy man for people who don't want to think about how their own actions effect other people. Same re branded boogy man the 'political correctness gone mad' one was

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
8 weeks ago

Gloucestershire

I don’t know about the whole ‘woke’ term but -

There are people who go out of their way to look for things to be offended by and, take pleasure from it.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

Also check out the origins of the word “woke”, I feel it’s use has been manipulated to make people feel a certain way about particular oppressive systems… just saying 🤷🏽‍♀️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

And I never claim to be anything but myself. I'll never be a woman... Poke me, prod me (please lol), but reality is reality and it's far more than skin-deep.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ora the explorerWoman
8 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?

No?

Only if you let it?

If you are truly being yourself and it's preventing you making a good connection then they aren't right for you.

We only live once - I couldn't care less how others choose to live their lives."

This ^^. Never even given it much thought. If they’re not my people they’re not my people.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eordieJeansCouple
8 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"I just assume everyone who uses the word woke doesn’t actually know what it means. So what does it mean?

Mrs x"

Aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality.

It has now been hijacked by the far right to mean anything they don’t like.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ophieslutTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Central

What do you mean by the 'woke' culture OP?

Do you believe in equality for all? Uncomfortable and willing to call out others who blame victims and not perpetrators of harm, giving empathy and compassion, instead of their hate? Some have tried to use woke as an insult, against people who are showing basic respect and decency to others.

If you dislike much of the lack of respect for others, this seems like a good thing to me.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oodmessMan
8 weeks ago

yumsville

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

I'm late 40's. I could count on one hand the number of new friends I've made in the last 20 years, it's nothing to do with woke, it's just a thing that happens with age.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *inky_couple2020Couple
8 weeks ago

North West

"Are they though? I don't feel like I'm always walking on eggshells personally. Not sure what is "woke" about not deliberately offending people, isn't that just not being an arsehole? "

Tbf, I did roll over eggshells the other day. But that's because someone dropped an egg on the kitchen floor. Sticky

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ools and the brainCouple
8 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"I don’t know about the whole ‘woke’ term but -

There are people who go out of their way to look for things to be offended by and, take pleasure from it. "

I think this is more accurate.

And people who get offended on the behalf of others assuming that the others are offended without even checking first.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

I meet gay people every day of the week, I work with them,meet them socially etc, but that they them shite does nothing for me...you can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *allipygousMan
8 weeks ago

Leicester

[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 19:43:28]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *allipygousMan
8 weeks ago

Leicester

"[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 19:43:28]"

Saw the subsequent post, that's why I've deleted this.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"I meet gay people every day of the week, I work with them,meet them socially etc, but that they them shite does nothing for me...you can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish "

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *neeyedwillieMan
8 weeks ago

Darlington

It's ruined western pop culture that's for sure.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?

Can you give an example of a situation where you felt you were walking on eggshells?"

"So I'm in the local with the lads, right..."

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ruceyyMan
8 weeks ago

London

"I’m what you would consider “woke” or a “lefty”. I also have a very offensive sense of humour. I find things that don’t align with my beliefs funny because I can take a joke a face value. So no, I don’t think it will stop me making friends or having relationships."

Racist

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *r John WickMan
8 weeks ago

The Continental

"It's ruined western pop culture that's for sure. "

How?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"I meet gay people every day of the week, I work with them,meet them socially etc, but that they them shite does nothing for me...you can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish "

Oh the irony 🤦‍♂️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ittle Miss TinkerbellWoman
8 weeks ago

your head

"Are they though? I don't feel like I'm always walking on eggshells personally. Not sure what is "woke" about not deliberately offending people, isn't that just not being an arsehole?

Tbf, I did roll over eggshells the other day. But that's because someone dropped an egg on the kitchen floor. Sticky

Oh nice! Bet that was fun to clean up!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

I love the absolute shitshow threads like this become.

If only you could monetise on this site I would be posting bait all day long.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
8 weeks ago

Den of Iniquity

"I don’t know about the whole ‘woke’ term but -

There are people who go out of their way to look for things to be offended by and, take pleasure from it.

I think this is more accurate.

And people who get offended on the behalf of others assuming that the others are offended without even checking first."

💯 Correct

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *uckoldDesiresMan
8 weeks ago

Dublin

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

If it wasn't for those scary "woke" people you would still be hiding in the closet afraid of being kicked to death in a gay bashing like the "good old days"

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *electableicecreamMan
8 weeks ago

The West

My god given right to be an asshole has been curtailed by woke.

Yes. Yes it has.

Cry more.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
8 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"There seems to be no reasoning with a woke person they are right you your wrong attitude. They believe the hype the believe and follow a narrative which is spun for them a woke person is not an AWAKE person. The woke agenda is destructive. "

Personally I find the (what I assume those calling it out on here) 'woke' culture to be easy to navigate. It's just about respecting people's choices and having empathy with others.

There's no hidden agenda. Much of what some sectors bemoan is just pure bullshit stirred up by the media, and most of those getting their knickers in a twist actually have no real reason to worry about anything.

Don't like someone's choice of pronouns? That's a 'you' problem, not a 'them' problem. Their choices don't affect you at all.

There's no need to feel like you're walking around on eggshells unless you've put yourself in that position through your own choices, views or actions.

Just treat people with respect and don't be a twunt. Simples. 🤷‍♂️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ife NinjaMan
8 weeks ago

Dunfermline

Having just suffered Nigel Farage doing a PPB, I'll prefer to be 'woke', if that means being a decent human being

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *lmost TouchingMan
8 weeks ago

Wherever I lay my hat.

Woke culture will be looked at by future historians like we view s l a v e r y currently, struggling to understand how it was allowed.

In a world where extreme cosplay extends to even having your passport affirm it and other people being prosecuted for not believing the fairytale, the lunacy…

When your feelings are valued more than the facts….

When a misogynistic faith has the ability to be entertained to the extent that it can shut down the capital and the police are impotent to do anything for fear of being seen as racists or right wing….

When being right wing in you thinking is considered emotionally lacking and not enlightened…

Are we endangered by Woke thinking… maybe?

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ermite12ukMan
8 weeks ago

Solihull and Brentwood

"Surely there’s a middle ground between woke as fuck and total cunt?"

If there is, them fuckers you can bet, are riding a push bike and are going straight to the poleeeass to complain that you were closer than the length of the Mersey Tunnel, when you overtook them...jus sayin.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
8 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Woke culture will be looked at by future historians like we view s l a v e r y currently, struggling to understand how it was allowed.

In a world where extreme cosplay extends to even having your passport affirm it and other people being prosecuted for not believing the fairytale, the lunacy…

When your feelings are valued more than the facts….

When being right wing in you thinking is considered emotionally lacking and not enlightened…

Are we endangered by Woke thinking… maybe?

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Which capital has been shut down? I've not watched the news recently?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

I'm off back to Twitter (X)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"I meet gay people every day of the week, I work with them,meet them socially etc, but that they them shite does nothing for me...you can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish

Oh the irony 🤦‍♂️"
...care to explain...?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hil most chillMan
8 weeks ago

South East & Europe

I must admit, threads like these really do provide an interesting insight into just how fucking exhausting people who go on about "wokeness" are

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ee69Man
8 weeks ago

glasgow

Used to be everyone just had a giggle and you treat folk as you find them now some folk went mad lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ib.Man
8 weeks ago

Hampshire

"I must admit, threads like these really do provide an interesting insight into just how fucking exhausting people who go on about "wokeness" are"

I quite agree. People choose to be offended by it. I have no idea why people care so much about other people's choices.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"I meet gay people every day of the week, I work with them,meet them socially etc, but that they them shite does nothing for me...you can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish

Oh the irony 🤦‍♂️

...care to explain...?"

You: I work with them, meet them socially etc.

Also you: You can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish

Make sense?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *illy IdolMan
8 weeks ago

Midlands

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

If you stop worrying about offending everyone and you're true to yourself, those who like you and vice versa will naturally gravitate towards you.

And the same for those woke lefty tossers.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?

If it wasn't for those scary "woke" people you would still be hiding in the closet afraid of being kicked to death in a gay bashing like the "good old days""
...im sorry but that's just ot true...I don't know anyone who judge's others ,based on their sexuality...and I would call them out on it they did.

But the pronouns thing is a bridge too far for me...if you don't want to be called he or she,tell me your name and I'll do that.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"I meet gay people every day of the week, I work with them,meet them socially etc, but that they them shite does nothing for me...you can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish

Oh the irony 🤦‍♂️

...care to explain...?

You: I work with them, meet them socially etc.

Also you: You can fuck right off with that pronouns rubbish

Make sense?"
...yeah...I work and meet with gay/bi people...but I'm not doing the they them as in identifying transgender folks...I hope that clears things up for you

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *urry BlokeMan
8 weeks ago

Stalybridge

OP lit the blue touch paper and fucked off

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ophieslutTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Central

"OP lit the blue touch paper and fucked off

Frightened of his eggshells?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eliusMan
8 weeks ago

Henlow

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F. "

Exactly! I’ve applied a simple rule. Tell me your name, that’s how I’ll refer to you. If you require a they/them/whatever, I’ll just stick to using your name.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ife NinjaMan
8 weeks ago

Dunfermline

These threads help out people I never want to interact with

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ib.Man
8 weeks ago

Hampshire

"I'm offended because I habitually refer to gender in my sentence structure".

It really that is ridiculous.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems."

Exactly! And people who bemoan learning people’s pronouns “because it’s too hard” need to go and sit in my son’s year one class where they were learning about them lol. The French language is massively gendered as well. This isn’t a new concept, just be respectful of someone’s identity and keep it moving. It’s made no difference to your life, but can literally save someone else’s.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ear in the chairMan
8 weeks ago

yeah there

I'm on the more mature side of fab, yip I have friends from all sides of every race, spectrum, gender and sexuality. Sometimes habitually I get it wrong and through lack of prior knowledge. Those people that jump down throats about it (like any more extreme sides of society) get ignored and walked away from as friends, those that take the time to gently correct get my complete respect and attempt to get it right in future. Simple, treat others as you would like to be treated and respected.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *inaTitzTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Is this thread a written representation of that meme, 'Everything I dislike is woke - this car won't start because it's woke'.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ittle Miss TinkerbellWoman
8 weeks ago

your head

"These threads help out people I never want to interact with

Was just thinking the same thing.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?"
...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?"

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ake_or_deathMan
8 weeks ago

Manchester

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

No. Woke just means treating people with courtesy and respect. If doing that is damaging your relationships then there was something very wrong with your relationships and methods of getting into them in the first place.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. "
...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 21:16:00]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

No. Basically.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?"

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Example of pronoun use: “Tom’s a lovely person, THEY bought me a coffee just because the other day”

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *irjamesMan
8 weeks ago

Warrington

You’re not, don’t worry about it. You were taught English grammar now the world want to write it’s use.

Here goes hurl abuse at me.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Example of pronoun use: “Tom’s a lovely person, THEY bought me a coffee just because the other day”"
...im sorry...but im so used to saying...Tom's a lovely guy, he bought me a coffee the other day...if that's a reason to commit suicide, there may be other forces at work...just my take in it as an older guy

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Example of pronoun use: “Tom’s a lovely person, THEY bought me a coffee just because the other day”...im sorry...but im so used to saying...Tom's a lovely guy, he bought me a coffee the other day...if that's a reason to commit suicide, there may be other forces at work...just my take in it as an older guy "

Of course it’s multi faceted, there’s no one reason, but do you want to contribute someone’s poor mental health? Most NB/ Trans people won’t mind you making a mistake if you apologise and correct yourself- innocent mistake. When you can’t be arsed to even attempt to make an effort, that doesn’t feel so kind.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?"

Maybe you could ask how they want to be addressed? Or if you misgender them, they tell you, you apologise and respect that?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ittle Miss TinkerbellWoman
8 weeks ago

your head

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone. "

Or just listen if someone tells you you have misgendered them and apologise and correct yourself. It's really not hard

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"Of course it’s multi faceted, there’s no one reason, but do you want to contribute someone’s poor mental health? Most NB/ Trans people won’t mind you making a mistake if you apologise and correct yourself- innocent mistake. When you can’t be arsed to even attempt to make an effort, that doesn’t feel so kind."

I think this is part of the problem. There's this narrative going around that trans/non-binary people are absolutely militant on their pronouns being correctly used at all times but I like to think that as long it's not done maliciously and a genuine attempt is made to be accepting of them, most of them would be alright if the odd mistake is made and understand that while it's different for them, it takes getting used to for those who know them as well 🤷‍♂️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *electableicecreamMan
8 weeks ago

The West

Why does the 'woke agenda' circle jerk always devolve into an arguement about pronouns?

Like how often has this become an actual problem for you?

Misgendering without prior knowledge is common and is not a problem.

Misgendering as an honest mistake because you haven't formed a new habit or your brain has a short circuit because the gender your looking at isn't the same as the words you've been asked to use is also ok.

I have absolutely no time for intolerance from any quarter. If someone is jumping down your throat because you made an honest mistake, their a jerk. If you deliberately make that mistake, your a jerk.

It took me two years before I never made a slip with my son's gender, name and pronouns.

Trying is ok. Transition is for everyone.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Or just listen if someone tells you you have misgendered them and apologise and correct yourself. It's really not hard

"
...its never happened, and if it did, I think I'd move on

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *l TrenMan
8 weeks ago

The North

If class myself as woke and the only people I seem to offend are those that think jim “nick nick” davidson is funny

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone. "

Transgender does not mean full transition, some can't have surgery, some don't want surgery, successfully transition is living as the person you are. It's that simple.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone. "

Transgender does not mean full transition, some can't have surgery, some don't want surgery, successfully transition is living as the person you are. It's that simple.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Transgender does not mean full transition, some can't have surgery, some don't want surgery, successfully transition is living as the person you are. It's that simple. "
...please...feel free to live as the person you are...but it's like being in the company of someone who keeps correcting your grammar...it gets tedious

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Transgender does not mean full transition, some can't have surgery, some don't want surgery, successfully transition is living as the person you are. It's that simple. ...please...feel free to live as the person you are...but it's like being in the company of someone who keeps correcting your grammar...it gets tedious "

And that speaks volumes.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

And that speaks volumes. "
...it certainly does...you do you...leave me out of it...I'll bid you goodnight

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

And that speaks volumes. ...it certainly does...you do you...leave me out of it...I'll bid you goodnight "

Sleep well

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *uenevereWoman
8 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 21:59:58]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *uenevereWoman
8 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

" Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Your age isn't relevant.

My parents who are in their 70s and my gran who is in her 90s, have managed to successfully get their heads around the fact that they now have a grandson, instead of a granddaughter.

Your attitude comes across as one of intolerance and disrespect towards trans people.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

" Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Your age isn't relevant.

My parents who are in their 70s and my gran who is in her 90s, have managed to successfully get their heads around the fact that they now have a grandson, instead of a granddaughter.

Your attitude comes across as one of intolerance and disrespect towards trans people. "
...so your sibling has transitioned?..that's wonderful.

I have absolutely no problem with that

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *he Flat CapsCouple
8 weeks ago

Pontypool

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Or just listen if someone tells you you have misgendered them and apologise and correct yourself. It's really not hard

...its never happened, and if it did, I think I'd move on"

Move on how, exactly ?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *AJMLKTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Burley

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

The problem is lack of respect. Trans and non-binary people need to respect the fact that not everyone agrees with their lifestyle choices and shouldn't have to change their linguistic behaviour to suit someone else if their culture or upbringing is not comfortable with it. Both sides should be equally respected. It could also affect the mental health of someone in taking them out of their cultural norms. Mental health problems are suffered by people across the whole spectrum, not just part of it. Also, the word "woke" means the past tense of wake, ie "he woke from a deep sleep". If a group of people want to re-purpose the word to mean "alert to social injustice", then another group of people have the same right to re-purpose it to mean "excessively sensitive and easily offended on behalf of others". Words don't belong to anyone, unless it's a brand name.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

The old divide and conquer tactic seems to still work on pretty much everyone.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 22:20:11]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ackformore100Man
8 weeks ago

Tin town

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

It's a good question op. I think you'll get some grief and for sure being kind and caring and respectful should be a given. But one of the things that is happening is a noisy minority seem to dominate the majority who in some cases are fearful of raising a voice just in case the consequences are bad... And sometimes they are. There's a balance to be had and I think it's gone a bit too far. Hopefully common sense will prevail

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Transgender does not mean full transition, some can't have surgery, some don't want surgery, successfully transition is living as the person you are. It's that simple. "

Agreed.

I can't have surgeries or take hormones and don't want to anyway. I have female friends who wear wigs and have no breasts (like me) due to illness and it doesn't make them any less 'women'. It's about who a person is, and how they feel inside. Anyone can call themselves something, but I don't see many actually behave like 'ladies'. Bitches yes, ladies no. Any 'transphobia' i've suffered has 99% come FROM the 'trans' community.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *atnip make me purrWoman
8 weeks ago

Reading

You should try not to offend people.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *allipygousMan
8 weeks ago

Leicester

"The problem is lack of respect. Trans and non-binary people need to respect the fact that not everyone agrees with their lifestyle choices and shouldn't have to change their linguistic behaviour to suit someone else if their culture or upbringing is not comfortable with it. Both sides should be equally respected. It could also affect the mental health of someone in taking them out of their cultural norms. Mental health problems are suffered by people across the whole spectrum, not just part of it. Also, the word "woke" means the past tense of wake, ie "he woke from a deep sleep". If a group of people want to re-purpose the word to mean "alert to social injustice", then another group of people have the same right to re-purpose it to mean "excessively sensitive and easily offended on behalf of others". Words don't belong to anyone, unless it's a brand name."

I like this response.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *teveanddebsCouple
8 weeks ago

Norwich

Whoever said

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

Must be spinning in their grave now.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
8 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

Can someone tell me if I meant I when I said me or did I mean myself......? or one! maybe one meant one!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eathrow pineappleCouple
8 weeks ago

West London

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F. "
was it a female you were talking too? Is so you've said nothing wrong.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *orthern_nudieMan
8 weeks ago

leeds

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy. "

100% this!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *electableicecreamMan
8 weeks ago

The West

"As a

It was a cultural norm to call prior with brown skin N*.

It was a cultural norm to call gay people fags.

It was a cultural norm to call people with intellectual disabilities retarded.

Language and humanity evolve.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *agatoXXXMan
8 weeks ago

Gone and completely forgotten.

"As a

It was a cultural norm to call prior with brown skin N*.

It was a cultural norm to call gay people fags.

It was a cultural norm to call people with intellectual disabilities retarded.

Language and humanity evolve."

Agreed. And people need to remember respect goes both ways.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *reakishly HungMan
8 weeks ago

London

[Removed by poster at 07/10/24 22:40:32]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *AJMLKTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Burley

"As a

It was a cultural norm to call prior with brown skin N*.

It was a cultural norm to call gay people fags.

It was a cultural norm to call people with intellectual disabilities retarded.

Language and humanity evolve."

Nonsense, none of those words could possibly be described as "cultural norms". They were words used by those with a lack of education, using a simplistic form of expression. Completely different.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *reakishly HungMan
8 weeks ago

London

"Woke culture will be looked at by future historians like we view s l a v e r y currently, struggling to understand how it was allowed.

In a world where extreme cosplay extends to even having your passport affirm it and other people being prosecuted for not believing the fairytale, the lunacy…

When your feelings are valued more than the facts….

When being right wing in you thinking is considered emotionally lacking and not enlightened…

Are we endangered by Woke thinking… maybe?

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!"

How is "woke culture" in anyway comparable to s l a v e r y?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"As a

It was a cultural norm to call prior with brown skin N*.

It was a cultural norm to call gay people fags.

It was a cultural norm to call people with intellectual disabilities retarded.

Language and humanity evolve."

It was a cultural norm for Roman men to wear leather miniskirts and male highlanders to wear skirts, male horsebackers to wear heels, tribal men to wear make-up/jewelry, male bodybuilders to wear short-shorts and crop-tops, and men to wear wigs in the 1700's etc etc, and of course blue was once the cultural norm for a female colour and pink was the masculine colour.

Few people actually live in reality... ... Mere products of the 'current norm'.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
8 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

"As a

It was a cultural norm to call prior with brown skin N*.

It was a cultural norm to call gay people fags.

It was a cultural norm to call people with intellectual disabilities retarded.

Language and humanity evolve.

Nonsense, none of those words could possibly be described as "cultural norms". They were words used by those with a lack of education, using a simplistic form of expression. Completely different."

They were the norm in my living memory. Less to do with education or simplistic expression and more to do with times gone by.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ackformore100Man
8 weeks ago

Tin town

"As a

It was a cultural norm to call prior with brown skin N*.

It was a cultural norm to call gay people fags.

It was a cultural norm to call people with intellectual disabilities retarded.

Language and humanity evolve.

Nonsense, none of those words could possibly be described as "cultural norms". They were words used by those with a lack of education, using a simplistic form of expression. Completely different."

No really no. I grew up with people using that and plenty of other expressions which have since been banned or considered offensive and or Learned how and why they shouldn't be used any more.And they certainly weren't being used by people lacking anything. I mean take a look at some TV from 50 years ago.? Things evolve. Attitudes to piercings, tattoos, fashion, work, greetings, well just about everything

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ellhungvweMan
8 weeks ago

Cheltenham

It’s nice to see the old forum back and everyone enjoying themselves.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

Yes woke culture is definitely destroying us I can’t believe they made a man the queen, wokeness gone mad I say

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?

Can you give an example of a situation where you felt you were walking on eggshells?"

There was that unfortunate incident he had in Tesco next to the baking aisle...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *agnar73Man
8 weeks ago

glasgow-ish

Woke or shook has been around a long time.

Did I hate apartheid?

Was I happy seeing Mandela with the rugby World Cup?

Did I dislike thatcher?

Did I briefly think things were gonna be okay in the late 90s?

Am I fucked off with arseholes spreading right wing misinformation ?

Will a wind tower actually affect my life?

Am I dead from vaccines?

Bullshit and bad actors in society and in media are many. Falling for it is poor judgement

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *inaTitzTV/TS
8 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Threads like this are always instructive.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *arlequin_tearsMan
8 weeks ago

Sheffield

'Can't be my true self'

Actions have consequences.

If you say something that pisses someone off, they are entitled to not want to be your friend.

This is nothing new.

The main difference today is that women, people who aren't white and the LGBTQ+ community not having to pretend certain jokes are funny anymore.

Protesting about offensive content is nothing new. The difference today are people insisting they've been 'cancelled' constantly appearing all over newspapers, TV, radio, social media, book shops, podcasts and Netflix specials talking about how they can't be heard.

Also if your 'offensive comments' are about refugees who desperately need help, or people being Trans then you're the one against people being their true selves.

And they likely do want to be your friend either.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *uxurybubblesCouple
8 weeks ago

by the sea

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

No it's not but can you please explain what woke is

as it seems the word has been thrown around so much the original use of the term has been lost

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *arlequin_tearsMan
8 weeks ago

Sheffield

No it's not but can you please explain what woke is

as it seems the word has been thrown around so much the original use of the term has been lost

The origins of 'woke' comes from the Anti-Racism movement in the US. Primarily waking people up to their privileges and getting them to realise that just because you haven't experienced a problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

Through movements like intersectional feminism this idea has grown to encompass a lot of other social and civil rights movements.

In some ways it can be encapsulated as 'don't be a dick', 'be excellent to each other' or 'we're all fighting battles that other people can't see'.

The right (particularly on the US) have used it to try and dehumanise anyone with a bit of human compassion and create fear and hate figures eg saying Drag Performers reading books to children will turn them trans

Reasons that many conservative figures say they can't or won't define what 'woke' is:

- It's actually mean less to them as they use it as a label for anything they don't like

- When forced to admit that it's about being anti-racist, pro individual liberty, anti gun violence, pro LGBTQ+ equality and being a compassionate human being etc. they sound like arseholes.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *agatoXXXMan
8 weeks ago

Gone and completely forgotten.

Nonsense, none of those words could possibly be described as "cultural norms". They were words used by those with a lack of education, using a simplistic form of expression. Completely different."

Do you hate yourself when you look in the mirror?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

"'Can't be my true self'

Actions have consequences.

If you say something that pisses someone off, they are entitled to not want to be your friend.

This is nothing new.

The main difference today is that women, people who aren't white and the LGBTQ+ community not having to pretend certain jokes are funny anymore.

Also if your 'offensive comments' are about refugees who desperately need help, or people being Trans then you're the one against people being their true selves.

And they likely do want to be your friend either.

Despite everything I said above; I agree with this too.

...There's no need for any kind of nastiness to anyone and people often hid behind 'jokes' in the past (and still do), to get away with being nasty.

The only problem is that most of the transphobia i have suffered in my life was from the trans community itself.

Real nasty people know how to be nasty to someone without appearing like they are to everyone else. The d(evil) poses as a messenger of light after all.

...Like a woman who works in a local shop. She hates me because of the clothes I wear, but would she call me a: 'tranny bastard' outright or throw something at me? - No ;of course not. - She did it in suttle ways... constantly made issues where there were none when I shopped; deliberately wasting my time and doing all manner of things to try to upset me. She'd wait till I took everything out of my basket then say that her till wasn't working and I'd have to move it all to another till. She'd overcharge me, then when I corrected her she'd do it again.

"Ohhh sorry dear, silly me", she'd giggle... and the rest of the onlookers didn't see what was going on, and if I were to get angry at her it is I who would appear like the: 'bad guy'.

She eventually lost her job over it though.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *8on33Man
8 weeks ago

winfrith

How can it destroy me I don't even know what it is ,so my answer is no.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"As a non binary person who made a choice that affected nobody in this thread and affected zero people worldwide, sorry I guess? 🤷

If a persons chosen identity is that much of an issue it must be nice to have so few problems.

Which bit?...if I'm addressing a person who wants me to use their pronouns...what exactly do I say?

Instead of hello tom..how are you...what do I say..hello they/them?...and how does that save someone's life?

Misgendering someone is awful. If that has happened to them multiple times, it affects their mental health, their will to go on.

The straw that broke the camels back? That could be you. ...that's why I'm asking....how do you use them/ they when you're addressing them?

Someone already addressed the link to high rates of suicide amongst transgender/ non binary folk.

Number two do you realise how ridiculous that sounds...?

Am I supposed to ask everyone what their pronouns are?

Here's an old guys perspective...the King's new clothes...its an affectation.

Transgender...that means you're transitioning from one gender to another. Keep it simple..let me know when you've successfully transitioned...it makes it easier on everyone.

Or just listen if someone tells you you have misgendered them and apologise and correct yourself. It's really not hard

...its never happened, and if it did, I think I'd move on

Move on how, exactly ? "
...to different company...im sorry, but the whole thing seems ridiculous to me.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ablo minibar123Woman
8 weeks ago

I don't see woke as the bad thing that people are trying to make it out to be.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
8 weeks ago

Leeds

Not everyone, some of us don’t give a fuck about feelings or offending. I don’t walk on eggshells around nobody.

The mr

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *reyja78TV/TS
8 weeks ago

Northampton

"Woke culture will be looked at by future historians like we view s l a v e r y currently, struggling to understand how it was allowed.

In a world where extreme cosplay extends to even having your passport affirm it and other people being prosecuted for not believing the fairytale, the lunacy…

When your feelings are valued more than the facts….

When being right wing in you thinking is considered emotionally lacking and not enlightened…

Are we endangered by Woke thinking… maybe?

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Wow what a lovely person you are

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *rHotNottsMan
8 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I don’t think it’s destroying us , plenty of other things are doing that just fine without it’s help - consumerism, hyper individualism , populism, but it’s certainly providing a distraction from debating some of the more important stuff.

And I think you mean snowflake not woke culture ? The people maybe similar (mostly young, uneducated, lefty ) but pulling down statues and cancelling people who’s views you don’t like is wokeism (fascism in disguise) , taking offence re gender is snowflake-ism.

Both fashions were started by the old intelligentsia in universities, having had to abandon communism when it Stalin was exposed as a butcher it simply wasn’t cool to be a commie anymore so they had to find a whole bunch of new causes that young impressionable lefties in the UK would get excited about.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *lmost TouchingMan
8 weeks ago

Wherever I lay my hat.

"Woke culture will be looked at by future historians like we view s l a v e r y currently, struggling to understand how it was allowed.

In a world where extreme cosplay extends to even having your passport affirm it and other people being prosecuted for not believing the fairytale, the lunacy…

When your feelings are valued more than the facts….

When being right wing in you thinking is considered emotionally lacking and not enlightened…

Are we endangered by Woke thinking… maybe?

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which capital has been shut down? I've not watched the news recently? "

Ladies and Gentlemen, let me introduce you to a Woke enabler.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

We openly call ourselves woke on our profile and we always have.

More than one of the people bemoaning woke culture on this thread have either winked or messaged us.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
8 weeks ago

We’re 2 expresso’s short of being woke this morning.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *oveandfastWoman
8 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

No it's not but can you please explain what woke is

as it seems the word has been thrown around so much the original use of the term has been lost

Through movements like intersectional feminism this idea has grown to encompass a lot of other social and civil rights movements.

In some ways it can be encapsulated as 'don't be a dick', 'be excellent to each other' or 'we're all fighting battles that other people can't see'.

Reasons that many conservative figures say they can't or won't define what 'woke' is:

- It's actually mean less to them as they use it as a label for anything they don't like

- When forced to admit that it's about being anti-racist, pro individual liberty, anti gun violence, pro LGBTQ+ equality and being a compassionate human being etc. they sound like arseholes."

I absolutely love your energy! Just to say the term “woke” actually originates from African sl aves and it was a term designed to keep fellow Black people safe(er). It wasn’t really used as a term to encourage white people to examine their privileges until much, much later. Xx

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *otsossieMan
8 weeks ago

Chesterfield

I don’t understand why people have a problem with simply not being a dick.

And if you enjoy being a dick, then sorry but that makes you a cunt.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *teveanddebsCouple
8 weeks ago

Norwich

"Yes woke culture is definitely destroying us I can’t believe they made a man the queen, wokeness gone mad I say "

This wins the thread

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
8 weeks ago

chichester

God dam woke …. If anyone needs it I have a Haynes manual on everything woke broke life

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
8 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Ladies and Gentlemen, let me introduce you to a Woke enabler.

I have a woke enabler.

It's called an alarm clock. 🤷‍♂️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *usyBusyGirlWoman
8 weeks ago

Brum

No, it's simple. DO NOT BE A CUNT.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *usyBusyGirlWoman
8 weeks ago

Brum

Ladies and Gentlemen, let me introduce you to a Woke enabler.

I have a woke enabler.

It's called an alarm clock. 🤷‍♂️"

🫣🤭

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ools and the brainCouple
8 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I'm finding the bullying attitude on this thread pretty disturbing.

If the discussion was the other way around I'm pretty sure it would have been pulled by now.

Implying that someone is a cunt simply because they have an opinion different from everyone else is pretty much against the whole ideology of being open and "woke"

I'm not defending bigotry and racism all I'm saying is the tone of this thread is of bullying and ridicule.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
8 weeks ago

chichester

"I'm finding the bullying attitude on this thread pretty disturbing.

If the discussion was the other way around I'm pretty sure it would have been pulled by now.

Implying that someone is a cunt simply because they have an opinion different from everyone else is pretty much against the whole ideology of being open and "woke"

I'm not defending bigotry and racism all I'm saying is the tone of this thread is of bullying and ridicule."

Come now you are not new to fab by any means

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ellhungvweMan
8 weeks ago

Cheltenham

"I'm finding the bullying attitude on this thread pretty disturbing.

If the discussion was the other way around I'm pretty sure it would have been pulled by now.

Implying that someone is a cunt simply because they have an opinion different from everyone else is pretty much against the whole ideology of being open and "woke"

I'm not defending bigotry and racism all I'm saying is the tone of this thread is of bullying and ridicule."

I am with this.

Personally I think it is a click bait of a thread but everyone is getting wound up and the language is poor.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *inceIlkestonMan
8 weeks ago

Ilkeston

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

It's perfectly simple, don't force your opinions on other people just in case they do not agree. Most things are on a spectrum and not absolutes, if you do not agree then do not challenge people on it. You are free to think what you like but do not use it as hatred. And if you are unsure about something then educate yourself, you might find it really interesting. I did.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
8 weeks ago

Stoke

[Removed by poster at 08/10/24 09:32:03]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ulfilthmentMan
8 weeks ago

Just around the corner

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F. was it a female you were talking too? Is so you've said nothing wrong.

Yeah it was, but I was still pulled up on it, the world's gone mad!

Mr F. "

“Pulled up” or simply informed that they preferred ‘they/them’ to ‘she/her’?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
8 weeks ago

Stoke

"I think it’s pretty simple. Don’t be a dick and treat people how you’d like to be treated and everyone will be happy.

It's not always the case. I was pulled up the other week because I said 'she' and apparently it should of been 'they'.... How the fuck was I supposed to know?

Mr F. was it a female you were talking too? Is so you've said nothing wrong. "

Yeah it was, but I was still pulled up on it, the world's gone mad!

A few years ago in a pandemic we were told to shut up and just follow the science, now we're bigots if we do:

Females: Have two X chromosomes (XX)

Males: Have one X and one Y chromosome (XY)

So... I'll be following the science, don't like it? I don't care, block me!

Mr F.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *partharmonyCouple
8 weeks ago

Ruislip

As far as I can see, people who criticise "woke" never give a clear definition of it. It always seems to be a synonym for "things I don't like". A lot of the critics seem to want to talk shit about people who are different from them and don't want any consequences. What a bunch of snowflakes.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
8 weeks ago

golden fields

"As far as I can see, people who criticise "woke" never give a clear definition of it. It always seems to be a synonym for "things I don't like". A lot of the critics seem to want to talk shit about people who are different from them and don't want any consequences. What a bunch of snowflakes. "

100%

They all have their personal definition of what it means. And it's never th dictionary definition of "awareness of social injustice, especially racism".

Pretty much every single time I've seen someone use "woke" as a derogatory term, it's because they're frustrated about no longer being able to be openly racist/homophobic/transphobic etc, so they lash out at those who they feel have taken away their safe space to be a bigot.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *anchesterGuy1Man
8 weeks ago

Manchester

So I have been reading this thread while drinking my brew this morning and all I can say is W😶W.

There are alot of different opinions on here, but who is to say what is right and what is wrong. Everybody is entitled to their own point of view along with their own beliefs!

What astounds me is this site is a place that we all come to for a common interest, yet here we all are calling each other because we dare to have a different opinion to somebody else.

It is fine to be able to get along and not agree with somebody else about something, it is about not forcing your beliefs on somebody else, and not judging them for not agreeing with you!

As an individual your morals and beliefs are put together from what you experience in life from the moment you are born (good or bad).

There are obviously things that are deemed as acceptable within different societies but to think you are going to influence everyone to agree with everything you believe is bonkers given with the population of the planet!!!!!

If you don't like what someone is saying just say okay and walk away to talk to the next person.

Too many people in this world that are too quick to judge others and try and shame them for their different opinion without having all of the information to hand at times.

Have a great day all

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ambertMan
8 weeks ago

Cheltenham

Well this entire thread was a (entertaining) dumpster fire.

Reminds me of all the recent rage in Warhammer 40k about the inclusion of female characters in what was previously implied to be a "brotherhood". The arguements in that were just as ridiculous as this.

All I know is my friends 11 year old daughter was massively excited that they could now be like the golden models. Because representation and understanding matters 🤷

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

The term transsexual..first appeared in 1949, transgender appeared in the 70s...and trans appeared in 1996...can anyone tell me when pronouns came on the scene?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ickey ThumbWoman
8 weeks ago

South Down

"The term transsexual..first appeared in 1949, transgender appeared in the 70s...and trans appeared in 1996...can anyone tell me when pronouns came on the scene?"

Since language existed?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"The term transsexual..first appeared in 1949, transgender appeared in the 70s...and trans appeared in 1996...can anyone tell me when pronouns came on the scene?

Since language existed?"
...is that it?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
8 weeks ago

golden fields

"The term transsexual..first appeared in 1949, transgender appeared in the 70s...and trans appeared in 1996...can anyone tell me when pronouns came on the scene?"

1400s

"The first recorded use of a pronoun dates back to the 14th century, when the singular "they" was used in the poem William and the Werewolf. The Oxford English Dictionary recognizes the use of "they" as a natural gender-neutral pronoun in English since the 14th century."

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
8 weeks ago

golden fields

"The term transsexual..first appeared in 1949, transgender appeared in the 70s...and trans appeared in 1996...can anyone tell me when pronouns came on the scene?

1400s

Wait. 1300s. Doh!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

Are people that dim?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ickey ThumbWoman
8 weeks ago

South Down

"Are people that dim?"

Elaborate please?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"Are people that dim?

Elaborate please?"
....you can't figure it..?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *rlandoMan
8 weeks ago

Lincolnshire

Define " woke "

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
8 weeks ago

golden fields

"Are people that dim?

Elaborate please?....you can't figure it..?"

Depends if you're calling people "dim" who are outraged by "the woke" or if you're calling people "dim" who aren't.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *929Man
8 weeks ago

newcastle

Destroying us is maybe a bit dramatic haha

With anything I always go by “is it affecting my life in any way” and the answer is usually no so why concern self with it?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ickey ThumbWoman
8 weeks ago

South Down

"Are people that dim?

Elaborate please?....you can't figure it..?"

You've posted a question without context, so, no. I don't want to presume to know

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"Are people that dim?

Elaborate please?....you can't figure it..?

Depends if you're calling people "dim" who are outraged by "the woke" or if you're calling people "dim" who aren't. "
...I didn't call anyone dim...where did you read that?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ickey ThumbWoman
8 weeks ago

South Down

"Is the Woke Culture Destroying how we make friends and relationships? Everybody is always walking on egg shells making barriers, trying not to offend.

This is how I perceive it. If you can't be your true self, how can. you find true friendships or relationships?"

No. I make friends and establish relationships like I always have. I don't feel like I'm walking on eggshells. If I unintentionally offend someone, I apologise.

Same as it ever was.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ot really famousMan
8 weeks ago

monaghan

"Are people that dim?

Elaborate please?....you can't figure it..?

You've posted a question without context, so, no. I don't want to presume to know

"
...the first question I posed had context...?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ickey ThumbWoman
8 weeks ago

South Down

"Are people that dim?

Elaborate please?....you can't figure it..?

You've posted a question without context, so, no. I don't want to presume to know

...the first question I posed had context...?"

Did it?

You asked when pronouns became a thing

You were given answers

You asked are people that dim

🤷‍♀️

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately