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"She's desperate to be bigger than her ego and believes her own hype.... Even hersongs ..calling them that loosely are all about her ... She's a product of current times ... Not particularly talented,nothing particular to say or add to culture,art or voice and opinion,or be controversial to get people talking, she's self centered and hollow .. People with a soul give with discretion,not for the 'Oh how great am I'fqctor. I hope she marrys Kelce, it'll be another Bobby Brown and Whitney as he drags her down the slippery slope ... A fitting end... Yes,you'll have gathered I'm no fan
"Blimey! I've never seen her talking about her extremely generous donations only the very grateful recipients. Wishing harm on her isn't a nice thing to do | |||
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"She's desperate to be bigger than her ego and believes her own hype.... Even hersongs ..calling them that loosely are all about her ... She's a product of current times ... Not particularly talented,nothing particular to say or add to culture,art or voice and opinion,or be controversial to get people talking, she's self centered and hollow .. People with a soul give with discretion,not for the 'Oh how great am I'fqctor. I hope she marrys Kelce, it'll be another Bobby Brown and Whitney as he drags her down the slippery slope ... A fitting end... Yes,you'll have gathered I'm no fan
"Not being a fanatic of her or her music is one thing. Spouting unsubstantiated opinion about someone you don't know is another. Your post is just vitriol and bile. I wish you better times and more self love | |||
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"What evil deed occurred ? Who caused the evil ?" We’ve become a nation that relies on charity and handouts to feed itself. 14 years of Tory governments caused it. Yet somehow, apparently Taylor Swift is the baddie?  | |||
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"Wow. Wtf? Jesus, people can’t win! " Jesus people definitely can't win praise be the lord . | |||
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"Personally, I think the discreet element is kind of irrelevant. It's not about Taylor Swift it's about the immediate issue of people being hungry in 2024 and having to rely upon food banks. If her fame draws people's attention to the backward demeaning vulgarity of people having to rely upon the charity of the extreme wealthy to survive - like it's the 19th century - then that's a good thing. Perhaps it's now time to have a welfare state and sensible economic distribution that's fit for purpose - instead of some archaic charity system to meet basic human needs like food?" are you on about the State pension that puts most of the elderly on the bread line . | |||
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"Personally, I think the discreet element is kind of irrelevant. It's not about Taylor Swift it's about the immediate issue of people being hungry in 2024 and having to rely upon food banks. If her fame draws people's attention to the backward demeaning vulgarity of people having to rely upon the charity of the extreme wealthy to survive - like it's the 19th century - then that's a good thing. Perhaps it's now time to have a welfare state and sensible economic distribution that's fit for purpose - instead of some archaic charity system to meet basic human needs like food?" It’s a national disgrace that we have hungry children as well as the volumes of homelessness that persists in the UK. | |||
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"Jesus. Can people not be nice anymore. The woman gives massive donations to every city she plays in and gets vilified. She does more than most. I think she’s fab." I totally agree with this lady. Her view on life is one of acceptance of being very privileged but happy to contribute to worthy causes. Perhaps a bit of credit is required where it’s due. Personally the music is not for me but it floats a lot of boats and brings pleasure to many. | |||
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"I know she significantly donated to food banks in Liverpool because my mum manages one of them! Tell a hungry child where their food comes from and see how much they care if it was Swift, Williams or anybody else! Who cares if it’s a tax loophole, marketing ploy or sycophantic act !?! Hungry children get to eat and don’t go hungry today! " Well said young man! But this country should not be reliant on food banks to feed its children. | |||
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"Wow. Wtf? Jesus, people can’t win! What has Jesus done now? "Apparently he turned water into wine at the swiftly gig at Anfield and charged £15 a glass? | |||
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"She's desperate to be bigger than her ego and believes her own hype.... Even hersongs ..calling them that loosely are all about her ... She's a product of current times ... Not particularly talented,nothing particular to say or add to culture,art or voice and opinion,or be controversial to get people talking, she's self centered and hollow .. People with a soul give with discretion,not for the 'Oh how great am I'fqctor. I hope she marrys Kelce, it'll be another Bobby Brown and Whitney as he drags her down the slippery slope ... A fitting end... Yes,you'll have gathered I'm no fan
"Not a fan of women it seems. What an awful thing to say. | |||
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"Jesus. Can people not be nice anymore. The woman gives massive donations to every city she plays in and gets vilified. She does more than most. I think she’s fab." Amen to that, what is wrong with society these days | |||
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"What evil deed occurred ? Who caused the evil ? " Dare I venture the cynical outlook of some who only seem to wallow in the negativity of their own outlook? The types of people who if the thread was about Captain Tom would say ' yeah he might have raised tens of millions but he was such a slow walker '.. | |||
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"She's desperate to be bigger than her ego and believes her own hype.... Even hersongs ..calling them that loosely are all about her ... She's a product of current times ... Not particularly talented,nothing particular to say or add to culture,art or voice and opinion,or be controversial to get people talking, she's self centered and hollow .. People with a soul give with discretion,not for the 'Oh how great am I'fqctor. I hope she marrys Kelce, it'll be another Bobby Brown and Whitney as he drags her down the slippery slope ... A fitting end... Yes,you'll have gathered I'm no fan
"Yikes.... I mean..... I was gonna wrote back something witty but fuck it.. Your hoping someone is dragged into a circle of physical and emotional abuse, drug addiction and eventually an early death... Because you don't like her music and her ego.... That's enough Internet for today I think | |||
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"Personally, I think the discreet element is kind of irrelevant. It's not about Taylor Swift it's about the immediate issue of people being hungry in 2024 and having to rely upon food banks. If her fame draws people's attention to the backward demeaning vulgarity of people having to rely upon the charity of the extreme wealthy to survive - like it's the 19th century - then that's a good thing. Perhaps it's now time to have a welfare state and sensible economic distribution that's fit for purpose - instead of some archaic charity system to meet basic human needs like food? It’s a national disgrace that we have hungry children as well as the volumes of homelessness that persists in the UK." One due to ideological choice rather than necessity too. I agree it's a disgrace. | |||
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"What evil deed occurred ? Who caused the evil ? Dare I venture the cynical outlook of some who only seem to wallow in the negativity of their own outlook? The types of people who if the thread was about Captain Tom would say ' yeah he might have raised tens of millions but he was such a slow walker '.. " And we hate old slow walkers who raise money for the nhs, especially when they have a bit of money themselves. Maybe Taylor walks a bit faster. | |||
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" If Taylor Swift is giving back to the communities she is playing in, I say well done regardless of my opinion on her as an artist and/or icon. " I’ve never listened to any of her music at all. I don’t intent to either but learning of her generosity in giving back to communities, I say well done. If more people thought of others in general, our world would be a better place. I hope her giving inspires others. | |||
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"Good for her. The most embarrassing thing is in a country as wealthy as we are, having food banks in the first place "This..   | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. ." It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter. | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. . It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter." Like your motives with this thread, OP? | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. . It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter." Motives don't really matter to the kids who will have a meal instead of going hungry. Also its not really her responsibility so any help she is giving is more than welcime by me personally. She is past the point of really needing to build her brand anyway so could have just not bothered or invested this money in more AI bots for X | |||
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"What evil deed occurred ? Who caused the evil ? Dare I venture the cynical outlook of some who only seem to wallow in the negativity of their own outlook? The types of people who if the thread was about Captain Tom would say ' yeah he might have raised tens of millions but he was such a slow walker '.. And we hate old slow walkers who raise money for the nhs, especially when they have a bit of money themselves. Maybe Taylor walks a bit faster. " I think to be fair to him the actions rightly criticised by some close to Sir Tom happened after his demise.. | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. . It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter. Motives don't really matter to the kids who will have a meal instead of going hungry. Also its not really her responsibility so any help she is giving is more than welcime by me personally. She is past the point of really needing to build her brand anyway so could have just not bothered or invested this money in more AI bots for X" I think it is the responsibility of anyone who extracts cash from poor people and communities through things like high ticket prices or overpriced broadband to ensure they give some of it back. That’s a huge amount of GBP leaving in the UK. Do you honestly think less children will go hungry as a result of Taylor Swifts giving ? Maybe she should take someone like Billie Holiday as an example and risk going to prison to sing words that actually changed the world, Instead of whining on about her ex-boyfriends | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. . It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter. Like your motives with this thread, OP? " No Motives forgiving or not the same as motive for posting on forum are they ? I doubt she sat there thinking I’m bored I wonder what’s happening on fab, let’s give some money to food banks I’m just seeing all the hype & not that impressed, that’s all. | |||
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"What evil deed occurred ? Who caused the evil ? Dare I venture the cynical outlook of some who only seem to wallow in the negativity of their own outlook? The types of people who if the thread was about Captain Tom would say ' yeah he might have raised tens of millions but he was such a slow walker '.. And we hate old slow walkers who raise money for the nhs, especially when they have a bit of money themselves. Maybe Taylor walks a bit faster. I think to be fair to him the actions rightly criticised by some close to Sir Tom happened after his demise.." Salty | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. . It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter." Do they? To who? | |||
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"I'm not bothered by 'indiscreet' giving. A gift is a gift. . It would be nice to think that is true but when you mix it with tax breaks and brand marketing it becomes more of an efficient investment. If you really wanna be sure you’re giving for the right reasons, the right amounts, in the right ways , Motives really matter. Motives don't really matter to the kids who will have a meal instead of going hungry. Also its not really her responsibility so any help she is giving is more than welcime by me personally. She is past the point of really needing to build her brand anyway so could have just not bothered or invested this money in more AI bots for X I think it is the responsibility of anyone who extracts cash from poor people and communities through things like high ticket prices or overpriced broadband to ensure they give some of it back. That’s a huge amount of GBP leaving in the UK. Do you honestly think less children will go hungry as a result of Taylor Swifts giving ? Maybe she should take someone like Billie Holiday as an example and risk going to prison to sing words that actually changed the world, Instead of whining on about her ex-boyfriends " Rubbish, extract??...she is not doing anything by force, people choose to go to her concerts or not!! And if it makes a difference to even one less child going hungry then all is good. The only salty thing around here I think is your attitude | |||
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"In terms of the good it will do, it won’t make any impact whatsoever what’s the situation that leads people to use food banks, there is enough money already in the system" With respect OP, you may well have been away from the UK longer than you realise; it’s easy to be critical when us expects take our finger off the pulse and our viewing lens changes living overseas. It makes every impact, it feeds a child who may well go hungry, it’s that simple! Saying it has no impact whatsoever is disingenuous at best. As for “enough money in the system”, I wouldn’t argue otherwise given the level of UK taxation; that said, it certainly doesn’t go anywhere near far enough otherwise we wouldn’t have hungry people demeaning themselves at food banks to make ends meet. | |||
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"I don't think anyone who is struggling to put food on the table, cares one bit what Taylor's motives for giving the money are. There are kids who are now not going to bed hungry, that is all that is important. People who argue these things seriously don't understand the impact of poverty. " ^^^ this ^^^ | |||
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"All things considered, she didn't have to give anything. Publicity stunt? So what? Feeding her ego? So what? Whatever the reasons, money honestly earned has been gifted to those who do not have the means to feed themselves. Not our place to sit in judgement on the givers or receivers of charity. I say good for her, or her publicist, or whoever it came from but mostly I say good for those who have a meal today as a result. " I only know about it because one of the people who worked at the food bank in Liverpool was on telly talking about it. I haven't seen or heard Taylor Swift or anyone to do with her mention it. | |||
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"Wow. Wtf? Jesus, people can’t win! " Yep. At least she’s not sticking it up her nose. | |||
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"I don't have a opinion either way, I just want the sun to shine "You know it's Taylor's fault it's not don't you...  | |||
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"What evil deed occurred ? Who caused the evil ? Dare I venture the cynical outlook of some who only seem to wallow in the negativity of their own outlook? The types of people who if the thread was about Captain Tom would say ' yeah he might have raised tens of millions but he was such a slow walker '.. And we hate old slow walkers who raise money for the nhs, especially when they have a bit of money themselves. Maybe Taylor walks a bit faster. I think to be fair to him the actions rightly criticised by some close to Sir Tom happened after his demise.." Sadly in the criticism levelled at those around him, the ability to understand the distinction between old man doing good things and executors abusing the brand get easily blurred in those able only to digest 128 bytes at a time. | |||
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"I don't know anything about her, or her songs, but it's disgusting that we live in this country, a first world country and the risk of starvation is all too real. Cash is cash, food is food and what she did is good. Swifty: Well done " There's your mistake. This country is not a first world country any more. | |||
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"I don't know anything about her, or her songs, but it's disgusting that we live in this country, a first world country and the risk of starvation is all too real. Cash is cash, food is food and what she did is good. Swifty: Well done There's your mistake. This country is not a first world country any more. " my bad | |||
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" She’s just an incredibly successful woman " I wonder if this bit is the problem for some people? I can't recall similar questioning of male celebrities who do charitable things. Maybe I'm just really, really cynical?? | |||
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" She’s just an incredibly successful woman I wonder if this bit is the problem for some people? I can't recall similar questioning of male celebrities who do charitable things. Maybe I'm just really, really cynical?? " Yes you are. And in some cases you may be right. In this case I'm not so sure. She's a phenomenon. I think what seems to irk some is the success from something trivial like social media and performance. Much like one direction a decade before. She puts smiles on lots of people's faces. And makes lots of money for so doing. I am, yet what I am none cares nor knows. | |||
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