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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle

A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

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By *andi da ThrushTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Round the Corner


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven? "

Quite possibly

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By *ortyairCouple
21 weeks ago

Wallasey

Non believer here, Mrs x

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By *ora the explorerWoman
21 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven? "

Dunno.

Thinks that’s really the only answer there is Todge.

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By *igR93Man
21 weeks ago

Sarcasm City


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven? "

I’m definetly agnostic

I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know

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By *ellhungvweMan
21 weeks ago

Cheltenham

It definitely all came from a big bang.

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven? "

No god.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

Simply Todge.... a non existent being cannot bring anything into existence.

It was the smurfs

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

Dunno.

Thinks that’s really the only answer there is Todge. "

I was more hoping for dunno Todge but i sent pics of my tits to your inbox - to stop you worrying!!

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By *erry bull1Man
21 weeks ago

doncaster

I’m a dyslexic atheist , I don’t believe in Dog

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

Yay for me

My religion has brought me a lot of comfort over the past few months and I feel lucky for that. I haven’t had an easy 8 years or so; and while I’m not contributing my new found recovery to religion, because it was all the hard work of me and only me, I do feel a lot more peaceful with God in my life, especially my Bible.

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By *assing Fancies xCouple
21 weeks ago

Sherwood Forest

If God is real then he's got some explaining to do...

We did he feel the need to bump me down to from a D to a B-cup after having children I miss my boobies

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By *igR93Man
21 weeks ago

Sarcasm City


"It definitely all came from a big bang."

But what created the Big Bang?

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By *ellhungvweMan
21 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Simply Todge.... a non existent being cannot bring anything into existence.

It was the smurfs"

Whilst eating crumpets and marmite.

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By *heltenhamBiGuyMan
21 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I'm a dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac......

I lay awake at night, doubting the existence of Dog

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"It definitely all came from a big bang."
im more in this camp but what caused it… does something just spontaneously explode? Where did the matter that exploded come from … originally? Is Brian Cox on here??

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By *ortyairCouple
21 weeks ago

Wallasey


"If God is real then he's got some explaining to do...

We did he feel the need to bump me down to from a D to a B-cup after having children I miss my boobies "

So it's you I need to thank, I must have yours cos mine went the other way and a bit more after having mine.

Mrs x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"It definitely all came from a big bang.

But what created the Big Bang?"

They say big bang .... but it's really more of a big bounce.

The cause 'meh?' too much stuff in too small a space .....

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By *ora the explorerWoman
21 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

Dunno.

Thinks that’s really the only answer there is Todge.

I was more hoping for dunno Todge but i sent pics of my tits to your inbox - to stop you worrying!! "

Oh I have some England tits! I shall send those

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By *ora the explorerWoman
21 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"It definitely all came from a big bang.

But what created the Big Bang?"

The chicken?

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By *ovelove30Couple
21 weeks ago

Killarney

It really depends. I don't mind if somebody is religious (neither does mrs) as long as they keep it to themselves.

Personally not religious at all.

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By *vasexperimentWoman
21 weeks ago

huddersfield


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

I’m definetly agnostic

I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know "

Look up Tom Campbell the nasa physicist

It’s been my area of intense interest

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By *ortyairCouple
21 weeks ago

Wallasey


"It definitely all came from a big bang. im more in this camp but what caused it… does something just spontaneously explode? Where did the matter that exploded come from … originally? Is Brian Cox on here?? "
Expanding and Contracting theory???

Mrs x

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
21 weeks ago

Leeds

Nah load of bollocks if you ask me, I form of brainwashing to control people.

The mr

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

The answer is LUCA, and cellular evolution.

I question how a God would have walked on Earth if they/he/she wasn’t created somehow, and then who created them?

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By *assing Fancies xCouple
21 weeks ago

Sherwood Forest


"If God is real then he's got some explaining to do...

We did he feel the need to bump me down to from a D to a B-cup after having children I miss my boobies So it's you I need to thank, I must have yours cos mine went the other way and a bit more after having mine.

Mrs x"

can you give them back please I've still kept some of my old nice bras living in hope that one day they will return

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"It definitely all came from a big bang.

But what created the Big Bang?

They say big bang .... but it's really more of a big bounce.

The cause 'meh?' too much stuff in too small a space ..... "

And my question is where did that ‘stuff’ come from ? The big bang isn’t ground zero in this case - it is a start point we can track but where did that matter that compressed come from. If we concede that it was just always there… the argument that God - has always been there - can’t be challenged - can it?

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By *iberius61Man
21 weeks ago

Pontefract


"...I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know "

The Schwinger effect was proven in 2022, I.e. on a quantum level, something was created from nothing

There's also a problem with the word 'before'. The human brain can't really process it, but once you go back to a singularity, time has no real meaning.

According to the theory devised by Hawking and Hartle, time, as it is currently observed, diverged from a three-state dimension after the universe was in the age of the Planck time. We may never know the full truth, but we do already have several working theories to a lot of it.

Part of the problem is the general misunderstanding of the 'big bang', which was originally a derogatory term (by the British astronomer Hoyle) for the theory devised by Georges Lemaître a Catholic monk. Of course the amusing thing now is that the world has flipped. No longer do the scientists scoff at a strange theory devised by a Christian, but the Christians now scoff at a thory now accepted by most scientists

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"It definitely all came from a big bang. im more in this camp but what caused it… does something just spontaneously explode? Where did the matter that exploded come from … originally? Is Brian Cox on here?? Expanding and Contracting theory???

Mrs x"

Filth!! You’re very very naughty now go to my room young lady!!

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By *ortyairCouple
21 weeks ago

Wallasey


"...I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know

The Schwinger effect was proven in 2022, I.e. on a quantum level, something was created from nothing

There's also a problem with the word 'before'. The human brain can't really process it, but once you go back to a singularity, time has no real meaning.

According to the theory devised by Hawking and Hartle, time, as it is currently observed, diverged from a three-state dimension after the universe was in the age of the Planck time. We may never know the full truth, but we do already have several working theories to a lot of it.

Part of the problem is the general misunderstanding of the 'big bang', which was originally a derogatory term (by the British astronomer Hoyle) for the theory devised by Georges Lemaître a Catholic monk. Of course the amusing thing now is that the world has flipped. No longer do the scientists scoff at a strange theory devised by a Christian, but the Christians now scoff at a thory now accepted by most scientists "

That, Mrs x

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"...I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know

The Schwinger effect was proven in 2022, I.e. on a quantum level, something was created from nothing

There's also a problem with the word 'before'. The human brain can't really process it, but once you go back to a singularity, time has no real meaning.

According to the theory devised by Hawking and Hartle, time, as it is currently observed, diverged from a three-state dimension after the universe was in the age of the Planck time. We may never know the full truth, but we do already have several working theories to a lot of it.

Part of the problem is the general misunderstanding of the 'big bang', which was originally a derogatory term (by the British astronomer Hoyle) for the theory devised by Georges Lemaître a Catholic monk. Of course the amusing thing now is that the world has flipped. No longer do the scientists scoff at a strange theory devised by a Christian, but the Christians now scoff at a thory now accepted by most scientists "

Im genuinely fascinated by this stuff - even though at some point my brain goes - never mind that - where’s the waffles? Im going to be doing some research later - see what some of the porn sites have to offer for a search term of ‘big bang!’

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By *naswingdressWoman
21 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

I don't believe that any religion I've ever heard of can justify the claims it makes about the world without exempting itself from the rules of evidence we use for everything else. On that basis I have to say no.

I do draw inspiration from various religions (and elsewhere) for my own moral code.

To each their own, but that's just where I stand.

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By *ascaIMan
21 weeks ago

Cheshire Liverpool Manchester

Nay.

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford

There are a number of high level scientist types who have been led to faith by the evidence of their science.

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By *ansoffateMan
21 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Taoism and aspects of Hinduism have been quite influential to my beliefs and values alongside Christianity.

I am not religious as such, I don't think you need to be in order to read the conclusions of 1000s of years of Philosophical thought and gain something from it.

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By *rHotNottsMan
21 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"...I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know

The Schwinger effect was proven in 2022, I.e. on a quantum level, something was created from nothing

There's also a problem with the word 'before'. The human brain can't really process it, but once you go back to a singularity, time has no real meaning.

According to the theory devised by Hawking and Hartle, time, as it is currently observed, diverged from a three-state dimension after the universe was in the age of the Planck time. We may never know the full truth, but we do already have several working theories to a lot of it.

Part of the problem is the general misunderstanding of the 'big bang', which was originally a derogatory term (by the British astronomer Hoyle) for the theory devised by Georges Lemaître a Catholic monk. Of course the amusing thing now is that the world has flipped. No longer do the scientists scoff at a strange theory devised by a Christian, but the Christians now scoff at a thory now accepted by most scientists "

In January 2022, researchers at the National Graphene Institute led by Andre Geim and a number of other collaborators reported the observation of an analog process between electrons and holes at the Dirac point of a superlattice of graphene on hexagonal boron nitride (G/hBN) and another one of twisted bilayer graphene ...

Yeah It all makes sense now

They should rename at the Big Bang Law surely if it’s been proven ?

You either put your faith in science , not real science, Dawkins and the new atheists , or you put it in something else that you are have observed and experienced

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By *till gameMan
21 weeks ago

two doors down


"It definitely all came from a big bang. im more in this camp but what caused it… does something just spontaneously explode? Where did the matter that exploded come from … originally? Is Brian Cox on here?? "

Don’t know , but am sure there’s a Brian that loves cox on here

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"...I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know

The Schwinger effect was proven in 2022, I.e. on a quantum level, something was created from nothing

There's also a problem with the word 'before'. The human brain can't really process it, but once you go back to a singularity, time has no real meaning.

According to the theory devised by Hawking and Hartle, time, as it is currently observed, diverged from a three-state dimension after the universe was in the age of the Planck time. We may never know the full truth, but we do already have several working theories to a lot of it.

Part of the problem is the general misunderstanding of the 'big bang', which was originally a derogatory term (by the British astronomer Hoyle) for the theory devised by Georges Lemaître a Catholic monk. Of course the amusing thing now is that the world has flipped. No longer do the scientists scoff at a strange theory devised by a Christian, but the Christians now scoff at a thory now accepted by most scientists

In January 2022, researchers at the National Graphene Institute led by Andre Geim and a number of other collaborators reported the observation of an analog process between electrons and holes at the Dirac point of a superlattice of graphene on hexagonal boron nitride (G/hBN) and another one of twisted bilayer graphene ...

Yeah It all makes sense now

They should rename at the Big Bang Law surely if it’s been proven ?

You either put your faith in science , not real science, Dawkins and the new atheists , or you put it in something else that you are have observed and experienced"

With those instructions i don’t fancy building that wardrobe!!!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"There are a number of high level scientist types who have been led to faith by the evidence of their science. "

Yes Funch. that is true... but they were not led to have faith in a beardy bloke with a bad attitude

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By *odgerMoore OP   Man
21 weeks ago

Carlisle


"There are a number of high level scientist types who have been led to faith by the evidence of their science.

Yes Funch. that is true... but they were not led to have faith in a beardy bloke with a bad attitude"

Ive shaved that off…

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By *ust want fun 888Man
21 weeks ago

nearby

For me, and not going to get into it deeply, but absolutely no to religion, it’s because of too many wars and fallout around the world. If you go by nature, that’s how everything works

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By *quirrel!Man
21 weeks ago

Nearby

What is the actual point in religion?

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By *ust want fun 888Man
21 weeks ago

nearby

To control people in my opinion, probably thousands of years ago they put the fear of God into people and they didn’t have TV and radio that time, but it’s still carried on throughout centuries

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By *irtydevil666Man
21 weeks ago

bristol

Nay Nay and Thrice Nay

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By *quirrel!Man
21 weeks ago

Nearby


"To control people in my opinion, probably thousands of years ago they put the fear of God into people and they didn’t have TV and radio that time, but it’s still carried on throughout centuries"

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By *4bimMan
21 weeks ago

Farnborough Hampshire

You got to believe in something.

At a time of pain, suffering and war even those who do not believe will pray for help in their darkest hour

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

A couple of questions.

Is your god a man or a woman?

Was the earth created in 7 days

Where does god reside

Why does god allow disease illness and disaster?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

I think Mr Fry has a point

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"What is the actual point in religion? "

The same point as royalty?

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

God knows! My grandfather was a C of E Curate, so I had it rammed down my throat until I was 18, then I abandoned it all.

But, having been through two bereavements in the last 3 months - one of them a suicide - I'd like to think that there is some kind of afterlife, a place they've gone to, where they can literally rest in peace

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By *d4fun73Man
21 weeks ago

Shipley


"What is the actual point in religion?

The same point as royalty?"

None

And there is no God. Get over it

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan
21 weeks ago

belfast

Nope. No god. Never was a god.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Herts

Everything in the universe is of the universe. There is no more or less matter than the start of existence to now. Each on of us is actually billions of years old, made of the matter which formed the universe.

We are, in fact, God.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"What is the actual point in religion? "

You get to ask people for money and build big buildings n stuff ...... but not you just the other ones

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"Everything in the universe is of the universe. There is no more or less matter than the start of existence to now. Each on of us is actually billions of years old, made of the matter which formed the universe.

We are, in fact, God. "

We are one.

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By *naswingdressWoman
21 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"God knows! My grandfather was a C of E Curate, so I had it rammed down my throat until I was 18, then I abandoned it all.

But, having been through two bereavements in the last 3 months - one of them a suicide - I'd like to think that there is some kind of afterlife, a place they've gone to, where they can literally rest in peace "

I think it's very common to desire an overarching structure, protection, and something to bring back what we've lost.

I hope you find what it is you need, and I wish you peace.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Herts


"Everything in the universe is of the universe. There is no more or less matter than the start of existence to now. Each on of us is actually billions of years old, made of the matter which formed the universe.

We are, in fact, God.

We are one. "

Exactly.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"You got to believe in something.

At a time of pain, suffering and war even those who do not believe will pray for help in their darkest hour "

When people pray in their darkest hour they are simply repeating phrases they have heard before..... they are hoping... hope is all they have

I'm a staunch atheist but when I stump my toe I say God!

It's just common terminology

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"You got to believe in something.

At a time of pain, suffering and war even those who do not believe will pray for help in their darkest hour

When people pray in their darkest hour they are simply repeating phrases they have heard before..... they are hoping... hope is all they have

I'm a staunch atheist but when I stump my toe I say God!

It's just common terminology"

In exactly the same way that so many people call out 'Oh God' when they're about to orgasm!

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By *ansoffateMan
21 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"Everything in the universe is of the universe. There is no more or less matter than the start of existence to now. Each on of us is actually billions of years old, made of the matter which formed the universe.

We are, in fact, God.

We are one.

Exactly. "

Advaita vedanta is consistent with that view. And one I share too.

But can our entire essence, our consciousness be reduced to what is material? Or is it a limitation of the human capacity to effectively observe and measure the universe? Is it even within the realms of the human mind to know?

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

I love religion. Gives me something to laugh at.

*it’s a joke.

I actually respect people that have a faith. I just don’t respect the preaching that comes along with it.

There’s lots of fundamental goodness with a lot of religions, there is a bit in a lot of them which forbid you to do certain things. Now that sounds a bit bossy for me.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Herts


"Everything in the universe is of the universe. There is no more or less matter than the start of existence to now. Each on of us is actually billions of years old, made of the matter which formed the universe.

We are, in fact, God.

We are one.

Exactly.

Advaita vedanta is consistent with that view. And one I share too.

But can our entire essence, our consciousness be reduced to what is material? Or is it a limitation of the human capacity to effectively observe and measure the universe? Is it even within the realms of the human mind to know?"

Do we have to assume divinity is panoptic? That consciousness extrapolates? Or can it be one room with many visitors, seen from a single fixed lens?

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"God knows! My grandfather was a C of E Curate, so I had it rammed down my throat until I was 18, then I abandoned it all.

But, having been through two bereavements in the last 3 months - one of them a suicide - I'd like to think that there is some kind of afterlife, a place they've gone to, where they can literally rest in peace

I think it's very common to desire an overarching structure, protection, and something to bring back what we've lost.

I hope you find what it is you need, and I wish you peace."

I appreciate your words, thank you. But I'm not looking for anything. I already have what I need, and I am very much at peace

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By *AJMLKTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Burley

For those who say they don't believe in God, that's fine. God believes in you, and that's all that matters

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By *unCycleGymRepeatMan
21 weeks ago

Greater London

Religion is for the intelligent.

Once you start looking into science you understand that it runs out of answers quite quickly.

Philosophy, again all roots back to an understanding of theology. And without it sounding to arbitrary statements on how we use to view the world and our own presence and validation within these confines we all have to remember that this is indeed a sex site and not one for discussing implied rules of arbitration to a life less lived within constraints.

Right, I'm off to the gym.

The body trains the mind.

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By *illybeachboyMan
21 weeks ago

Guernsey

There's more truth in Enid Blytons 'Magic Faraway Tree' than in the bible in my opinion.

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By *urvyFan!Man
21 weeks ago

Bury

Nay

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By *ansoffateMan
21 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"Everything in the universe is of the universe. There is no more or less matter than the start of existence to now. Each on of us is actually billions of years old, made of the matter which formed the universe.

We are, in fact, God.

We are one.

Exactly.

Advaita vedanta is consistent with that view. And one I share too.

But can our entire essence, our consciousness be reduced to what is material? Or is it a limitation of the human capacity to effectively observe and measure the universe? Is it even within the realms of the human mind to know?

Do we have to assume divinity is panoptic? That consciousness extrapolates? Or can it be one room with many visitors, seen from a single fixed lens? "

No I don't think we do (I appreciate the irony in the last statement). What you have presented is a good summary of what science has revealed to us about the material universe. Through the lens of human perception. But as Karl Popper put it science is only concerned with questions that are falsifiable and there are questions that are not. That's not to say those questions are not pertinent ones, they simply cannot, at least at this time be demonstrated to be false.

I can't falsify your particular flavour and I have no desire or need to. It can co-exist with my own, perhaps even influence it, if I try to understand why it resonates for you. Or I can take the Camusian view that to believe anything, even to choose not to believe, is still a leap of faith. Remain open to learning instead of believing I have the answer, accept the aporia of standing on the cusp of the abyss.

I used to say I'll find out when I die, now I can do without that reassurance too. I can say I will be very surprised if I meet a beardy man in the clouds, though.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"Religion is for the intelligent.

Once you start looking into science you understand that it runs out of answers quite quickly.

Philosophy, again all roots back to an understanding of theology. And without it sounding to arbitrary statements on how we use to view the world and our own presence and validation within these confines we all have to remember that this is indeed a sex site and not one for discussing implied rules of arbitration to a life less lived within constraints.

Right, I'm off to the gym.

The body trains the mind.

"

That was just word salad, but the point on science is a category error. It shows a misunderstanding of the fundamental basis of knowledge by the scientific method.

No gods, no masters in as succinct as I can be with my view of religion.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
21 weeks ago

Pershore

just hocus pocus

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By *agatoXXXMan
21 weeks ago

Gone and completely forgotten.

Nay, nay, and thrice nay. Save it for church.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

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By *ripfillMan
21 weeks ago

havant

Which religion is the right religion ?

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

Religion is the route to evil. It hurt and killed so many over the years not to mention other cover ups inculding the Church of England who have only just paid off the dept owed. As you can guess I don’t follow any region just my own veiws on what’s right and wrong.

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By *iberius61Man
21 weeks ago

Pontefract


"...They should rename at the Big Bang Law surely if it’s been proven ?

...or you put it in something else that you are have observed and experienced"

Not really, a law and a theory are different things. A theory explains how something happens, a law really just states a pattern, usually in the form of an equation. Of course, both can actually turn out to be wrong. E.g. Newton described gravity as a law, objects of mass attract each other), it's pretty close, but not exactly correct, something that Newton actually knew as he couldn't explain the phases of Mercury. In the end his only explanation was 'that's the way God wanted it'. Then Einstein came along with not a law, but a theory to explain gravity. A lot of people didn't like it, but nobody could deny that it fixed a lot of observed problems with Newton's law. We are even more sure of it now, as no doubt all of you use GPS, e.g. Google maps. Those calculations use Einstein's equations to correctly calculate your position. You'd be out by quite a margin if they used Newton's maths. And the best bit, Einstein was wrong too, but that's another issue, there is a Nobel prize awaiting anyone who can describe quantum gravity.

Your own observations and experiences are generally one of the worst ways of discovering the truth to be honest. In the best of cases people often see things that aren't there. Even in a court of law, witness observations are always regarded with a high degree of scepticism.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
21 weeks ago

1127 walnut avenue

If people want to believe that's fine if make's them happy that's fine... what isn't fine is when they start trying to inflict it on other people...that ain't interested..it's like I'm a great fan of motorhead but I don't go round knocking on people's doors trying to convert them to liking motorhead..

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By *orksRockerMan
21 weeks ago

Bradford

If people want to believe in their own imaginary friend that's fine... But it's when they want everyone else to believe and live by those rules where I have my problem.

To paraphrase the late great Christopher Hitchens, "You can play with your toys and share them with others who want to play with the toys. You are not going to make me play with the toys"

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By *ascaIMan
21 weeks ago

Cheshire Liverpool Manchester

The thought of there being something else after death is comforting. Even if it’s hell I’m sure there’d be a decent bunch down there. But I’m not much of a believer.

I’d prefer reincarnation. Coming back as a Shitzu would do me.

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By *naswingdressWoman
21 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. "

Who said they fell out of a tree?

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

Who said they fell out of a tree?"

lol it’s just a quote I really like and I had it right on the tip of my tongue as I was reading this thread-it’s just the way to quote goes

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By *naswingdressWoman
21 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

Who said they fell out of a tree?

lol it’s just a quote I really like and I had it right on the tip of my tongue as I was reading this thread-it’s just the way to quote goes "

I'm not sure it's a fair characterisation of what anyone believes.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

Who said they fell out of a tree?

lol it’s just a quote I really like and I had it right on the tip of my tongue as I was reading this thread-it’s just the way to quote goes

I'm not sure it's a fair characterisation of what anyone believes. "

I’m not following, sorry

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By *naswingdressWoman
21 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

Who said they fell out of a tree?

lol it’s just a quote I really like and I had it right on the tip of my tongue as I was reading this thread-it’s just the way to quote goes

I'm not sure it's a fair characterisation of what anyone believes.

I’m not following, sorry "

Perhaps I'm not following either, although it might have helped if you had indicated that you were quoting someone.

I don't believe anyone - religious or otherwise - believes they "just fell out of a tree". I'm not sure of the utility of the quote if no one actually believes it.

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London

I don't believe in a personal God that many religions propose. But I do enjoy reading the metaphysical theories of religions. Haven't been following any particular religion as such. So I guess I am an agnostic.

As for others, I respect people who follow a religion for their own spiritual fulfilment. But anyone who uses religion to take away my personal rights is going to get a rough treatment from me.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

Who said they fell out of a tree?

lol it’s just a quote I really like and I had it right on the tip of my tongue as I was reading this thread-it’s just the way to quote goes

I'm not sure it's a fair characterisation of what anyone believes.

I’m not following, sorry

Perhaps I'm not following either, although it might have helped if you had indicated that you were quoting someone.

I don't believe anyone - religious or otherwise - believes they "just fell out of a tree". I'm not sure of the utility of the quote if no one actually believes it."

It’s just a quote- in the original quote Harris was speaking to a crowd. There’s a whole paragraph before it. I was just quoting the part I really like.

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London


"...They should rename at the Big Bang Law surely if it’s been proven ?

...or you put it in something else that you are have observed and experienced

Not really, a law and a theory are different things. A theory explains how something happens, a law really just states a pattern, usually in the form of an equation. Of course, both can actually turn out to be wrong. E.g. Newton described gravity as a law, objects of mass attract each other), it's pretty close, but not exactly correct, something that Newton actually knew as he couldn't explain the phases of Mercury. In the end his only explanation was 'that's the way God wanted it'. Then Einstein came along with not a law, but a theory to explain gravity. A lot of people didn't like it, but nobody could deny that it fixed a lot of observed problems with Newton's law. We are even more sure of it now, as no doubt all of you use GPS, e.g. Google maps. Those calculations use Einstein's equations to correctly calculate your position. You'd be out by quite a margin if they used Newton's maths. And the best bit, Einstein was wrong too, but that's another issue, there is a Nobel prize awaiting anyone who can describe quantum gravity.

Your own observations and experiences are generally one of the worst ways of discovering the truth to be honest. In the best of cases people often see things that aren't there. Even in a court of law, witness observations are always regarded with a high degree of scepticism."

Scientific theories are empirical. No empirical theory can ever be proven to be 100% right. We follow science because it's a great approximation of the world we observe. But it can never ever explain the nature completely.

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By *ucy AnneTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Woodstock

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By *ucy AnneTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Woodstock


"Yay for me

My religion has brought me a lot of comfort over the past few months and I feel lucky for that. I haven’t had an easy 8 years or so; and while I’m not contributing my new found recovery to religion, because it was all the hard work of me and only me, I do feel a lot more peaceful with God in my life, especially my Bible. "

Well said.

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By *uenevereWoman
21 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

I don't do religion at all and am very happily athies.

I'm very much a believer in science.

I do respect other's faith and understand that religion remains important to many people.

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford


"There are a number of high level scientist types who have been led to faith by the evidence of their science.

Yes Funch. that is true... but they were not led to have faith in a beardy bloke with a bad attitude"

Why? This is definitely becoming bullying. Leave me alone.

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford


"To control people in my opinion, probably thousands of years ago they put the fear of God into people and they didn’t have TV and radio that time, but it’s still carried on throughout centuries"

Karl Marx said it best. Religion is the Opium of the masses.

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford


"You got to believe in something.

At a time of pain, suffering and war even those who do not believe will pray for help in their darkest hour "

Do you? Why?

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By *ornyone30Man
21 weeks ago

ABERDEEN

If God made the earth then man, where were we when the dinosaurs roamed the earth? And if it was a meteor that killed them, how come we survived? I'm no a believer, I think religion is no more than old fashioned laws. The deadly sins? Just a way to make you behave yourself years ago.

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By *ty31Man
21 weeks ago

NW London

As a Christian, I'm thankful to my faith for giving me perspective and guidance in my life.

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By *ty31Man
21 weeks ago

NW London


"To control people in my opinion, probably thousands of years ago they put the fear of God into people and they didn’t have TV and radio that time, but it’s still carried on throughout centuries

Karl Marx said it best. Social Media is the Opium of the masses. "

Updated for 21st Century

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"

As a Christian, I'm thankful to my faith for giving me perspective and guidance in my life.

"

Me too I only recently became religious but I feel more peaceful now

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By *unchalMan
21 weeks ago

Dartford


"To control people in my opinion, probably thousands of years ago they put the fear of God into people and they didn’t have TV and radio that time, but it’s still carried on throughout centuries

Karl Marx said it best. Social Media is the Opium of the masses.

Updated for 21st Century "

Boom, boom!

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"

As a Christian, I'm thankful to my faith for giving me perspective and guidance in my life.

"

I take it being a Christian you won’t be coveting your neighbours wife?

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By *hiteWitchXXXWoman
21 weeks ago

North Wales

If I was to believe anything the Tao or Dao makes the most sense for me.... although it's argued that it's not actually a religion

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By *ty31Man
21 weeks ago

NW London


"

As a Christian, I'm thankful to my faith for giving me perspective and guidance in my life.

I take it being a Christian you won’t be coveting your neighbours wife?"

Yes. I don't yearn to possess my neighbours wife.

I do accept that promiscuous behaviour and Christianity can be seen as being a contradiction to some.

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By *electableicecreamMan
21 weeks ago

The West

I find the mystical traditions that underlie religious orders very interesting.

Most seem to have the same goal; Raising human consciousness to godhead.

Gnosticism, Yoga, Kabbalah, Sufism and the rest all have the same goal.

What's really interesting is that these 'inner orders' often have goals that appears to be at odds with the 'outer' order.

Obey God or realise All is God.

Britain was an absolute hotbed of secret mystical orders in the 1900's and much what the western world knows about eastern mystical practices came through people like Madame Blavatsky, Dion Fortune, Alistair Crowley and WB Yeats.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"

As a Christian, I'm thankful to my faith for giving me perspective and guidance in my life.

I take it being a Christian you won’t be coveting your neighbours wife?

Yes. I don't yearn to possess my neighbours wife.

I do accept that promiscuous behaviour and Christianity can be seen as being a contradiction to some."

Covet is not possession.

Christianity and contradiction..........surely not?

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London


"I find the mystical traditions that underlie religious orders very interesting.

Most seem to have the same goal; Raising human consciousness to godhead.

Gnosticism, Yoga, Kabbalah, Sufism and the rest all have the same goal.

What's really interesting is that these 'inner orders' often have goals that appears to be at odds with the 'outer' order.

Obey God or realise All is God.

Britain was an absolute hotbed of secret mystical orders in the 1900's and much what the western world knows about eastern mystical practices came through people like Madame Blavatsky, Dion Fortune, Alistair Crowley and WB Yeats."

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

Each to their own - it brings a lot of comfort to some... anxiety, misery, persecution and death to others

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By *electableicecreamMan
21 weeks ago

The West


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger."

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"Each to their own - it brings a lot of comfort to some... anxiety, misery, persecution and death to others "

What midnight says.

That said the god squad were out in force in Manchester today preaching an impending end to the world. I am watching the betting patterns very carefully!

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By *alcon77Man
21 weeks ago

under the sun & the moon

-I'm half satanist, half bhuddist.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

I’m a Christian. Yes I believe in a god. I don’t think they’re a bearded man on a cloud but something beyond my understanding at this point.

I’ve thought long and hard about my religion and it’s right for me.

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger.

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio."

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio."

Good Heavens my current go to literature is

Razzle May 2024 edition with readers wives from Wales

Viz

And back editions of the Beezer

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By *electableicecreamMan
21 weeks ago

The West


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio.

Good Heavens my current go to literature is

Razzle May 2024 edition with readers wives from Wales

Viz

And back editions of the Beezer "

Many many people have had religious experiences with these publications of which you speak.

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By *ansoffateMan
21 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"-I'm half satanist, half bhuddist."

You must invite me to your next dinner party.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio.

Good Heavens my current go to literature is

Razzle May 2024 edition with readers wives from Wales

Viz

And back editions of the Beezer

Many many people have had religious experiences with these publications of which you speak. "

I do especially viewing Mrs May from the Rhonda

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"-I'm half satanist, half bhuddist.

You must invite me to your next dinner party."

Quorn.......will be served

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
21 weeks ago

Stoke

Atheist, absolutely ridiculous that there's 3000 gods sat on fluffy clouds!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

I think it was created as a way to create law and order among certain societies to keep them in line and a result, created a set of beliefs for people to follow. As societies and science evolved, as did the laws with less reliance on religion.

I think it can still provide relief for those who feel they need that structure in their lives and will always respect their beliefs even if they don't correlate with my own

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
21 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven? "

If there is a God and he created all the funky stuff, who created God???

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

If there is a God and he created all the funky stuff, who created God??? "

God's God. It's an infinite chain

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By *electableicecreamMan
21 weeks ago

The West

It's Turtles all the way down.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
21 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

If there is a God and he created all the funky stuff, who created God???

God's God. It's an infinite chain "

Like GranomnipresentbeingGod?

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London

That moment when the people who escaped the Matrix realise they are still in a Matrix only one level up.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago

God in all its forms can be considered to be a see you next Tuesday myth fabricated by those who are susceptible to suggest and fear.

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

If there is a God and he created all the funky stuff, who created God???

God's God. It's an infinite chain

Like GranomnipresentbeingGod?"

Ok that went right over my head

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By *exycarlashane181Couple
21 weeks ago

Leamington Spa

Pagan here..

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By *quirrel!Man
21 weeks ago

Nearby


"What is the actual point in religion?

The same point as royalty?

None

And there is no God. Get over it "

I’m a sex god! lol

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By *owestoft ManMan
21 weeks ago

Lowestoft

I believe in Science and Math's so religion is not my thing at all.

But saying that, there have been some strange things happen when I was a lot younger lol. Playing the Ouija board game. So I think something is out there but not god of any kind.

Physics explains a lot of how the Universe began albeit still many theories and even what we know is still to be worked out. All of science proves pretty much everything in the bible to be false, please don't ask me to reference it lol I had to sit through Sunday Schools and bible studies all the way through school and my opinion is it's all false.

So yes more and more questions regarding it all but I'm all on the No God No Religion side.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
21 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

If there is a God and he created all the funky stuff, who created God???

God's God. It's an infinite chain

Like GranomnipresentbeingGod?

Ok that went right over my head "

Gods Granpa or GranGod

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By *AJMLKTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Burley

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"Religion is for the intelligent.

Once you start looking into science you understand that it runs out of answers quite quickly.

Philosophy, again all roots back to an understanding of theology. And without it sounding to arbitrary statements on how we use to view the world and our own presence and validation within these confines we all have to remember that this is indeed a sex site and not one for discussing implied rules of arbitration to a life less lived within constraints.

Right, I'm off to the gym.

The body trains the mind.

"

So funny

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger.

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio."

I have very mixed feelings about Alan Watts...... The Taboo against Knowing who You Are is a great read tho ........

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By *mma29Couple
21 weeks ago

wirral


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven? "

Do I believe in God and religion? Heavens no.

If I had to pick something I'd guess we are a simulation because it just makes sense to me. A very advanced simulation of course.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
21 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"There are a number of high level scientist types who have been led to faith by the evidence of their science.

Yes Funch. that is true... but they were not led to have faith in a beardy bloke with a bad attitude

Why? This is definitely becoming bullying. Leave me alone. "

No you. GOD...... Jesus talk about an ego

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By *ansoffateMan
21 weeks ago

Sagittarius A


"-I'm half satanist, half bhuddist.

You must invite me to your next dinner party.

Quorn.......will be served"

I was hoping for tofu.

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By (user no longer on site)
21 weeks ago


"...I absolutely refuse to believe something came from absolutely nothing

There had to be something before but it’s an answer we will never know

The Schwinger effect was proven in 2022, I.e. on a quantum level, something was created from nothing

There's also a problem with the word 'before'. The human brain can't really process it, but once you go back to a singularity, time has no real meaning.

According to the theory devised by Hawking and Hartle, time, as it is currently observed, diverged from a three-state dimension after the universe was in the age of the Planck time. We may never know the full truth, but we do already have several working theories to a lot of it.

Part of the problem is the general misunderstanding of the 'big bang', which was originally a derogatory term (by the British astronomer Hoyle) for the theory devised by Georges Lemaître a Catholic monk. Of course the amusing thing now is that the world has flipped. No longer do the scientists scoff at a strange theory devised by a Christian, but the Christians now scoff at a thory now accepted by most scientists

Im genuinely fascinated by this stuff - even though at some point my brain goes - never mind that - where’s the waffles? Im going to be doing some research later - see what some of the porn sites have to offer for a search term of ‘big bang!’ "

Why is it always waffles?

Does no-one believe in crumpet anymore? ??

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By *rHotNottsMan
21 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

As a Christian, I'm thankful to my faith for giving me perspective and guidance in my life.

Me too I only recently became religious but I feel more peaceful now "

Have you been dunked ?

I was 33, But can still remember that feeling and all those Jesus Culture , Vineyard & Hillsong gigs!

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By *ndycoinsMan
21 weeks ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"I believe in Science and Math's so religion is not my thing at all.

But saying that, there have been some strange things happen when I was a lot younger lol. Playing the Ouija board game. So I think something is out there but not god of any kind.

Physics explains a lot of how the Universe began albeit still many theories and even what we know is still to be worked out. All of science proves pretty much everything in the bible to be false, please don't ask me to reference it lol I had to sit through Sunday Schools and bible studies all the way through school and my opinion is it's all false.

So yes more and more questions regarding it all but I'm all on the No God No Religion side."

Ouija Board = Ideo Motor reflex.

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By *electableicecreamMan
21 weeks ago

The West


"

I recommend you a book - "What's life?" By Erwin Schrödinger. The second part of the book is called "On Mind and Matter". He actually believes in some mystical and Vedic schools of thought of oneness of all our Minds and makes a strong argument for it. It's interesting to read such opinions from a physicist as accomplished as Schrödinger.

Thanks. My current go too's are Alan Watts and Ram Dass on audio.

I have very mixed feelings about Alan Watts...... The Taboo against Knowing who You Are is a great read tho ........"

Watts is new on my list and I usually fall asleep within minutes of turning him on! First impression is that he's a little bland and a little arrogant. He does seem have an encyclopaedic knowledge of Taoist and Buddhist texts though and paraphrases them in a way I can digest so it's a decent listen for me to cherry pick those bits that spark that aha moment.

Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll check it out.

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By *ostindreamsMan
21 weeks ago

London


"A safe place to examine serious theological concerns and fundamental questions about belief. Posting of tits and snarky comments also welcome.

So… did God create everything or… did something explode and do both have questions to answer that can’t be proven?

If there is a God and he created all the funky stuff, who created God???

God's God. It's an infinite chain

Like GranomnipresentbeingGod?

Ok that went right over my head

Gods Granpa or GranGod "

Ah got it

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By *m3232Man
21 weeks ago

maidenhead

Not a believer but it’s a great way to control weak minded people

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
21 weeks ago

Central

Unlikely that some thing that was like us existed before we evolved

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By *ackdaw52Man
21 weeks ago

Chesterfield

I think humanity would have been much better off if religion had never been invented.

It's a disease.

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan
21 weeks ago

St Leonards

There is no god.

It's about as likely as the colour 9 creating it all.

Or toe fungus.

Or carpet.

Or that one neutrino right now out by Betelgeuse.

That one - damn - it's disappeared again.

But there is an awful lot of uncertainty about everything, which means creating gods is a fairly understandable position to take historically. It seemed like some form of answer, it provided comfort, it coalesced disparate tribes into cohesive political units, it created economic stability, and terrifying bloodshed and instability.

That's the last 50,000 or so years of human historical development.

Now, we have to get beyond our god phase of galactic evolution - it's part of the globally destructive cycle now rather than a unification concept - and grapple with the ethics and ontology of uncertainty in different ways.

Religion is the lesser ally.

Science is a better ally.

Some form of paradoxical poetic science, beyond the limits of current science, and way, way, way beyond religion, is knocking on the doors of physics and philosophy, and that can be better still.

Definitely not the final word on reality though - that may be impossible to understand, because an "understanding" is a mental action, and the deeper levels of reality may exist beyond action and thought (in which case, our sensory equipment can't "touch" them. Even psychic people, like me, are only one stage further on, when there may be innumerable further stages of witnessing reality).

I'm certainly uncertain of this .

But god can go fuck herself.

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