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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham

So… bit of a rubbish day today. A car in a carpark reversed out into me so hit the horn but the went straight into my O/S front end.

Not a lot of damage other than scratches. I have the drivers number and his number plate. He’s asked to not go through insurance.

I managed to get to a body shop before they close and they said it’s a re-spray of half the bumper for £550 plus vat.

The young lad (Fiesta St-Line Turbo 2018) says he doesn’t agree it’s that price. It’s now sounding like he’s not happy with the price so I’m posting her to get your advice. I’m waiting for the written quote on Friday to send to him. He keeps phoning my number and sending me messages about it too. I’m being quite straight forward in my replies and putting the ball into his court with the options… we can pay without insurance or we can go through his insurance. I don’t have the time to spend talking to him on the phone or getting a bodge job smart repair for it.

The problem is, not going through insurance means I’m without my car for 2 days while the repair is done as there won’t be a courtesy car so it’s inconvenient enough not going through insurance.

What would you do?

Btw… The shop carpark has CCTV on the carpark so I’m going to go in the morning to get the footage.

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By *orkshireBeef26Man
30 weeks ago

Kirkella

Maybe he's not insured?

I'd put it in hands of your insurance he's to blame..

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By *ittle Miss TinkerbellWoman
30 weeks ago

your head

Go through the insurance. He clearly is only willing to pay a certain amount anx will hassle you about getting it done cheaper. Give him one last chance to agree to the price or say you're going through the insurance as its inconveniencing you not having a car in that time as well. Unless he is going to pay for car hire too for two days.

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"Maybe he's not insured?

I'd put it in hands of your insurance he's to blame.."

There’s a way to check whether they are insured isn’t there? An online site that can check who the insurer is?

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By *ussythief2019Man
30 weeks ago

Thanet

Easy.

Do not call your insurance company.

1st call his and clain via his insurance. Once reported they have to accept the claim. Then call yours and do a info only incident report. You say the third party are dealing. That way your insurance is not affected.

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"Go through the insurance. He clearly is only willing to pay a certain amount anx will hassle you about getting it done cheaper. Give him one last chance to agree to the price or say you're going through the insurance as its inconveniencing you not having a car in that time as well. Unless he is going to pay for car hire too for two days. "

Do you know if there’s a time window to when I need to notify the insurance? I’m going to have the written quote on Friday for the work.

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By *ot to giggleWoman
30 weeks ago

Coventry

i would go through insurance, what do you owe him that is what you paid your insurance for? -

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By *acktopervMan
30 weeks ago

Stourport-On-Severn

The cctv won't be gven to you anyway, even if it exists.

Go through your insurance.

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"Easy.

Do not call your insurance company.

1st call his and clain via his insurance. Once reported they have to accept the claim. Then call yours and do an info only incident report. You say the third party are dealing. That way your insurance is not affected. "

Hmmm…. I have his reg number and phone number but I don’t have his insurance company details. Is this a problem?

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"The cctv won't be gven to you anyway, even if it exists.

Go through your insurance."

It’s a small corner shop and they said they would give me the footage tomorrow morning.

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By *rHotNottsMan
30 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Easy.

Do not call your insurance company.

1st call his and clain via his insurance. Once reported they have to accept the claim. Then call yours and do a info only incident report. You say the third party are dealing. That way your insurance is not affected. "

It doesn’t work like that & you are in breach of your policy if you do that

£550 sounds a lot , does it need to respray ?

I would either

A/ Take 300 off him and touch it up myself with a color pen from Halfords

B/ go through insurance and get it done properly, It’s not a claim on your policy so won’t affect NCB

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By *ussythief2019Man
30 weeks ago

Thanet

Sent you a DM

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By *rHotNottsMan
30 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"The cctv won't be gven to you anyway, even if it exists.

Go through your insurance.

It’s a small corner shop and they said they would give me the footage tomorrow morning."

You don’t need it .

And if he finds out you have it it could make things very complicated

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago

I work In the car trade and if it is just a respray and no actually bumper damage that needs sorting then 550 seems a lot of money unless you have a special paint code like flip paint etc. I would have thought more around the £200-300 mark. If you want to dm me with pics etc I’m more than happy to help further

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago


"Easy.

Do not call your insurance company.

1st call his and clain via his insurance. Once reported they have to accept the claim. Then call yours and do a info only incident report. You say the third party are dealing. That way your insurance is not affected.

It doesn’t work like that & you are in breach of your policy if you do that

£550 sounds a lot , does it need to respray ?

I would either

A/ Take 300 off him and touch it up myself with a color pen from Halfords

B/ go through insurance and get it done properly, It’s not a claim on your policy so won’t affect NCB"

it will do as it states when ypu get a quote (accident in the last 5 years you're fault or not)

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"Easy.

Do not call your insurance company.

1st call his and clain via his insurance. Once reported they have to accept the claim. Then call yours and do a info only incident report. You say the third party are dealing. That way your insurance is not affected.

Yeah £550 plus vat for a respray. That price doesn’t surprise me. Sounds a lot but I guess it’s not considering it’s a respray.

It doesn’t work like that & you are in breach of your policy if you do that

£550 sounds a lot , does it need to respray ?

I would either

A/ Take 300 off him and touch it up myself with a color pen from Halfords

B/ go through insurance and get it done properly, It’s not a claim on your policy so won’t affect NCB"

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By *ustincamebridgeCouple
30 weeks ago

manchester

My 19 year old son pays £6k a year insurance. Kids are being screwed over and that’s the reason he would rather not go through his insurance. Paint and commodity prices have gone through the roof but £550 to paint half a bumper? Look for a smart repair company. You will pay £250-350 depending on paint type, colour, effect. A smart repairer will do it at you convenience

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS
30 weeks ago

St Austell

Unless he's going to give you a wheelbarrow full of cash it's Insurance company all the way...

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"My 19 year old son pays £6k a year insurance. Kids are being screwed over and that’s the reason he would rather not go through his insurance. Paint and commodity prices have gone through the roof but £550 to paint half a bumper? Look for a smart repair company. You will pay £250-350 depending on paint type, colour, effect. A smart repairer will do it at you convenience

"

Yeah that’s why I felt sorry for him. He said he lives locally and was very apologetic. I don’t think a smart repair will work tbh. The paint shop advised that it needs a respect. I know they want business but I trust their judgement as they are plenty busy with trade.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago

I'd go through the insurance and hopefully, he is covered.

It's not your fault if they end up paying a premium due to an accident, either. This is how people learn in the future to take more care driving and to be aware of what's around them properly.

His insurance company may cover the cost of a courtesy car for you if his at fault and admitted it and proven via cctv.

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
30 weeks ago

Glasgow / London

Go through your insurance. It’s what you’re paying them for.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago


"I'd go through the insurance and hopefully, he is covered.

It's not your fault if they end up paying a premium due to an accident, either. This is how people learn in the future to take more care driving and to be aware of what's around them properly.

His insurance company may cover the cost of a courtesy car for you if his at fault and admitted it and proven via cctv.

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but it will also affect the OP as insurers see you as more risk even if not your fault you are a statistic unfortunatly

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By *ikesEmBigMan
30 weeks ago

Herts

The problem with insurance, which quite frankly is another one of their scams, is even if you weren't at fault, they'll still increase your premiums. I do agree insurance is needed, but it should be regulated and I think they're taking the piss. The fact every renewal is more expensive than the last one and if you ring them it might get cheaper if you're lucky, is fucking disgusting

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"I'd go through the insurance and hopefully, he is covered.

It's not your fault if they end up paying a premium due to an accident, either. This is how people learn in the future to take more care driving and to be aware of what's around them properly.

His insurance company may cover the cost of a courtesy car for you if his at fault and admitted it and proven via cctv.

but it will also affect the OP as insurers see you as more risk even if not your fault you are a statistic unfortunatly "

Yeah it will out mine up a bit, I agree. I guess that a slight premium increase is just something I’ll need to grin and bear. I totally agree that mine shouldn’t go up but I know that it will. The only way to avoid someone driving into you is clearly to never let your car out of your house garage. Bonkers isn’t it.

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"The problem with insurance, which quite frankly is another one of their scams, is even if you weren't at fault, they'll still increase your premiums. I do agree insurance is needed, but it should be regulated and I think they're taking the piss. The fact every renewal is more expensive than the last one and if you ring them it might get cheaper if you're lucky, is fucking disgusting "

Yeah it will put mine up a bit, I agree. I guess that a slight premium increase is just something I’ll need to grin and bear. I totally agree that mine shouldn’t go up but I know that it will. The only way to avoid someone driving into you is clearly to never let your car out of your house garage. Bonkers isn’t it.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
30 weeks ago

The Big Smoke

Just go through the insurance. That’s why you have it

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"Just go through the insurance. That’s why you have it "

Yeah, I’m tending to agree. I thought I’d give him a chance but I might just ignore his calls and message now and just put it into the hands of the insurance company.

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By *eah BabyCouple
30 weeks ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria


"I'd go through the insurance and hopefully, he is covered.

It's not your fault if they end up paying a premium due to an accident, either. This is how people learn in the future to take more care driving and to be aware of what's around them properly.

His insurance company may cover the cost of a courtesy car for you if his at fault and admitted it and proven via cctv.

but it will also affect the OP as insurers see you as more risk even if not your fault you are a statistic unfortunatly

Yeah it will out mine up a bit, I agree. I guess that a slight premium increase is just something I’ll need to grin and bear. I totally agree that mine shouldn’t go up but I know that it will. The only way to avoid someone driving into you is clearly to never let your car out of your house garage. Bonkers isn’t it."

I think it will put your insurance premium up for the next 5 years if you declare it to them even if it’s not your fault, it happened to us, totally bonkers.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
30 weeks ago

The Big Smoke


"Just go through the insurance. That’s why you have it

Yeah, I’m tending to agree. I thought I’d give him a chance but I might just ignore his calls and message now and just put it into the hands of the insurance company."

I would block his number and tell your insurers he has been hassling you. It’s happened to me in the past til I got shitty with them and told them never to contact me again.

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"I'd go through the insurance and hopefully, he is covered.

It's not your fault if they end up paying a premium due to an accident, either. This is how people learn in the future to take more care driving and to be aware of what's around them properly.

His insurance company may cover the cost of a courtesy car for you if his at fault and admitted it and proven via cctv.

but it will also affect the OP as insurers see you as more risk even if not your fault you are a statistic unfortunatly

Yeah it will out mine up a bit, I agree. I guess that a slight premium increase is just something I’ll need to grin and bear. I totally agree that mine shouldn’t go up but I know that it will. The only way to avoid someone driving into you is clearly to never let your car out of your house garage. Bonkers isn’t it.

I think it will put your insurance premium up for the next 5 years if you declare it to them even if it’s not your fault, it happened to us, totally bonkers. "

Yeah it’s totally crap isn’t it. How can you stop/prevent a car driving into you? Crazy hey.

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
30 weeks ago

Glasgow / London

Your insurance will not go up because of this. The other party hit you. It’s a non-fault accident at your end. You won’t be penalised. Won’t even lose your no claims bonus.

Claim on your insurance and stop talking to the guy who crashed into you.

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By *obilebottomMan
30 weeks ago

All over

I am pretty sure that most , if not all, insurers do increase premiums for no-fault accidents though your ncb will not be affected. Personally will never do deals with anyone directly but that is just me.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
30 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

How frustrating, hope you get it sorted. Don't take his shit and sometimes as nice as you try to be it's bloody hard when people act like dicks

Similar happened to me, my car was parked up at work and someone tried to park next to it, dented the wing and drove off.....I saw the damage and asked work to look at the CCTV footage, turns out it was a Student of the College I work for, he smacked it then parked up elsewhere....Unlucky for him they tracked him down and frogmarched him over to me to sort it, I didn't go through insurance either because of him being a student and only having had his licence a year.

Luckily he didn't argue about paying up. Mine is going for repair on Monday

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By *hatsWhatCoupleCouple
30 weeks ago

Northampton

Shitty situation for both parties.

I’m not digging out a source but drivers who have been involved in a non fault accident are statistically more likely to be involved in another.

As insurance is based on statistics it is probable that the non fault party in this example will receive an increase in premiums.

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"How frustrating, hope you get it sorted. Don't take his shit and sometimes as nice as you try to be it's bloody hard when people act like dicks

Similar happened to me, my car was parked up at work and someone tried to park next to it, dented the wing and drove off.....I saw the damage and asked work to look at the CCTV footage, turns out it was a Student of the College I work for, he smacked it then parked up elsewhere....Unlucky for him they tracked him down and frogmarched him over to me to sort it, I didn't go through insurance either because of him being a student and only having had his licence a year.

Luckily he didn't argue about paying up. Mine is going for repair on Monday "

Oh blimey, not what you need. Sorry to hear that!

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By *aptiveAudience OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Nottingham


"Shitty situation for both parties.

I’m not digging out a source but drivers who have been involved in a non fault accident are statistically more likely to be involved in another.

As insurance is based on statistics it is probable that the non fault party in this example will receive an increase in premiums."

Yeah it’s a pain in the bum. The only way to statistically stay low is not to leave your home. I do hate that I have to mention it for 5 years of renewals, I don’t think it’s fair but that’s life for you hey.

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By *ansoffateMan
30 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

Go the insurance route. You've been more than understanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago


"The problem with insurance, which quite frankly is another one of their scams, is even if you weren't at fault, they'll still increase your premiums. I do agree insurance is needed, but it should be regulated and I think they're taking the piss. The fact every renewal is more expensive than the last one and if you ring them it might get cheaper if you're lucky, is fucking disgusting

Yeah it will put mine up a bit, I agree. I guess that a slight premium increase is just something I’ll need to grin and bear. I totally agree that mine shouldn’t go up but I know that it will. The only way to avoid someone driving into you is clearly to never let your car out of your house garage. Bonkers isn’t it."

My car was hit not long ago which was not my fault.

Didn't look like much damage either. Ended up being sent away for 3 weeks and the bill was £1800!

Nothing has happened to my car insurance premiums as I was not at fault and that's clearly documented and my renewal came through end of last month and its not caused me any massive premiums at all.

You pay insurance for a reason, you need to be contacting them.

That 2nd party already doesn't like the quotes given to them, how do you know they won't phone their insurance company and report you for hitting them.

Cctv may have been promised to you by the shop owner, but it doesn't mean they'll give it to you and not delete it if they think it will cause them any issues going forward.

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By *eah BabyCouple
30 weeks ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

Also think if you don’t report it and your insurance find outer later they may not honour your policy. Ask the question if you have the

Accident forgiveness clause on your policy, some do apparently, it means that they’ll allow you to have one accident without raising your premium, if not it will probably go up 10% ish.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago


"Shitty situation for both parties.

I’m not digging out a source but drivers who have been involved in a non fault accident are statistically more likely to be involved in another.

As insurance is based on statistics it is probable that the non fault party in this example will receive an increase in premiums.

Yeah it’s a pain in the bum. The only way to statistically stay low is not to leave your home. I do hate that I have to mention it for 5 years of renewals, I don’t think it’s fair but that’s life for you hey."

The question on the insurance quotes online is "Have you had any accidents in the last 5 years that you were responsible for"?

Your answer is no because you didn't cause it.

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By *orace99Man
30 weeks ago

York

Save yourself the hassle and go through insurance.

Make sure you report the accident to the police within 24hrs

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By *irkby coupleCouple
30 weeks ago

Kirkby

Smart repairs are not bodge jobs, insurance companies use smart repairs.

I’d save yourself the hassle and report it to the police then call the insurance.

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By *aughty by nature 76Man
30 weeks ago

Walsall & Reading

It’s easy. Just go through the insurance.

You’re running around getting quotes and they are not happy. Don’t waste your time, you’ve done nothing wrong.

That’s why we have insurance…. Let them sort it out I’m sure you’ve got better things to do then chasing around for quotes.

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By *ddie1966Man
30 weeks ago

Paper Town Central, Essex.

Unfortunately, car parks are classified as private land. The police will not be interested if no one was hurt. As the signs usually say, you park at your own risk.

Smart repairs are very good nowadays and usually completed within a couple of hours. They can even be done on Saturdays or whilst you're at work if your work has a private car park. Most insurers nowadays is them for scratches. No one will tell if there was a scratch there. A garage will always quote you worst case scenario. Remove bumper, new trim if required. New trim clips and exorbitant time at £100 per hour etc... For a £140 smart repair.

It will be recorded on your insurance as a non fault and it will not affect your future premiums if you report it.

Also note that, by not reporting it, you may actually be breaching your insurance policy.

Report it to your insurers and tell then you will accept a smart repair.

It's similar too a chipped windscreen, they'd rather pay for a repair than replace the windscreen.

As for the other driver, he'll hopefully be more careful next time and learn from his error. Tell him to turn his music down and put a quieter exhaust on his car, that way he'll be able to hear a car horn next time.

You did nothing wrong. You won't be penalised for it by your insurers.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

30 weeks ago

East Sussex

^^ yep, I was involved in a similar situation and as soon as they started arguing about the damage and price of repairs I simply put it in the hands of my insurance company and left it with them

I've paid thousayto insurance companies over the years and I'm happy to use their expertise.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago


"Shitty situation for both parties.

I’m not digging out a source but drivers who have been involved in a non fault accident are statistically more likely to be involved in another.

As insurance is based on statistics it is probable that the non fault party in this example will receive an increase in premiums.

Yeah it’s a pain in the bum. The only way to statistically stay low is not to leave your home. I do hate that I have to mention it for 5 years of renewals, I don’t think it’s fair but that’s life for you hey.

The question on the insurance quotes online is "Have you had any accidents in the last 5 years that you were responsible for"?

Your answer is no because you didn't cause it. "

it isnt it states your fault or not, also like when they ask about points or convictions in the past 5 even after thwyre off your licence, just all used to up your premium

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago

And i know this, my sisters car got scratched in a supermarket and informed her inaurance as thats what she thought is right (to inform them of any accidents) no sign of other vehicle and didnt bother getting it repaired guess what, premiums went up and had a accident on her premium even tho she didnt claim they were aware she had been involved in a crash

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30 weeks ago

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