FabSwingers.com forum: Madeleine McCann: The court case.

By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

There seems to be an break through in the case.

Apparently christian brueckner is standing trial this month accused of carrying out a number of attacks in portugal, he is being named as the prime suspect in the case.

Sketches that allegedly was drawn by madeleine mccann suspect christian brueckner are to be used in court against him.

What do you think of the latest development and do you think that he could be the one who did it?

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By (user no longer on site)
41 weeks ago

I think he could be the one

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By *estarossa.Woman
41 weeks ago

Flagrante

Do you have a link to an article please, Shag?

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
41 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

I hope so, the family need closure and it will end speculation

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By *arlot o scaraWoman
41 weeks ago

Hell

He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

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By *ets_playXXXMan
41 weeks ago

near

Totally agree.

They know more

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

"Do you have a link to an article please, Shag?"

There is a Panorama documentary about him on BBC iplayer

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

Sketches that allegedly was drawn by madeleine mccann suspect christian brueckner are to be used in court against him.

What are the sketches of ?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

"Do you have a link to an article please, Shag?

There is a Panorama documentary about him on BBC iplayer"

A documentary about Bröekner, not Shag !

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"Do you have a link to an article please, Shag?"
Hi testarossa, yes I do. I am not sure we can post other news links, but I read it on the mirrors site, if you google christian brueckner suspect the mirror, it will be there

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By (user no longer on site)
41 weeks ago

The family need closure on this it would be good to clear them and the speculation

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By (user no longer on site)
41 weeks ago

Shouldn't have left the kids then

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By *AM2214Man
41 weeks ago

Manchester Area

British teams recovered evidence that dismissed all the bull the Portuguese reported or claimed.

Sites now being revisited had good 'sign' back at the time, sadly politics got in the way of professional teams working.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

Sam - what evidence did the British teams recover ?

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By *immyinreadingMan
41 weeks ago

henley on thames

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth"

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

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By *arlot o scaraWoman
41 weeks ago

Hell

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch? "

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

From what I've heard the evidence against him is circumstancial. His phone placed him near the apartment, he changed his car numberplate the day after then drove his camper van to Germany. He hid a memory stick of vile images under his dead dog. I don't know anything about the incriminating sketches Shag mentioned.

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By *immyinreadingMan
41 weeks ago

henley on thames

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

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By *arlot o scaraWoman
41 weeks ago

Hell

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

I have a degree in psychology and I’m doing a masters in forensic psychology with a special interest in human behaviour and body language. It’s not just a wild stab in the dark, they show body language signs of hiding information.

I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

There is the mystery of Gerry's missing large tennis bag.

The blood in hire car boot which the family said was due to "taking vast quantities of dirty nappies and rotten meat to the tip".

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By *immyinreadingMan
41 weeks ago

henley on thames

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

I could be wrong, but then again I could be right. "

What body language signs indicate that they are not “letting on” what they fully know?

You saw all footage of their interviews with police, did you?

Or you expect every detail to be revealed in press conferences and interviews when they have probably been asked not to do so? (Could compromise investigation leads etc).

I’m surprised at someone with your background jumping to conclusions based on incomplete info

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By *m272Woman
41 weeks ago

London

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

I could be wrong, but then again I could be right. "

Psychology degree aside I don't know of any parent who might have even slightly behaved,engaged. conducted and further more functioned as they did hours after their child was deemed missing in a foreign country.

We can all speculate but bottom line is had those children been supervised at all times the mccanns would not be up for scrutinisation.

Regardless of if they were involved or not leaving children aged 5 and under to go and socialise would be a safeguarding concern in the UK.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

I always thought it odd that when she discovered Madeleine had been abducted, she ran back to the Tapas Bar, leavng the twins in an unlocked apartment with a child snatcher nearby.

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By *immyinreadingMan
41 weeks ago

henley on thames

"I always thought it odd that when she discovered Madeleine had been abducted, she ran back to the Tapas Bar, leavng the twins in an unlocked apartment with a child snatcher nearby. "

In panic situations, people make mistakes. You don’t, perhaps.

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By *immyinreadingMan
41 weeks ago

henley on thames

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.

We can all speculate but bottom line is had those children been supervised at all times the mccanns would not be up for scrutinisation.

Regardless of if they were involved or not leaving children aged 5 and under to go and socialise would be a safeguarding concern in the UK."

“We can all speculate”. We don’t have to. Some people chose to do so, for reasons that I don’t understand. I choose not to.

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By *ellinever70Woman
41 weeks ago

Ayrshire

All this expertise on here should have solved it by now

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By *icecouple561Couple
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41 weeks ago

East Sussex

Is he actually standing trial for abducting Madeleine McCann?

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By (user no longer on site)
41 weeks ago

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

I could be wrong, but then again I could be right. "

I’d like to think anyone actually studying that stuff wouldn’t give comment on it from what they’ve seen in a few TV appearances

A professional would want to actually meet and speak with these people being making such a huge statement about them knowing more and hiding info about their kids abduction

This is how you can always spot the fakes or the ones that shouldn’t be listened too. The same way you wouldn’t trust a doctor to diagnose an illness over a few pictures of yourself

Comments like these are the ones that should bar people from working with patients. It shows a completely lack of professionalism

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By *heelz69Man
41 weeks ago

Manchester

I'm still of the opinion that the parent did it, I don't think that they did it on purpose. But that's just my opinion, end of the day they put drinking, having fun with their friends and eating tapas over their children!

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By (user no longer on site)
41 weeks ago

"There seems to be an break through in the case.

Apparently christian brueckner is standing trial this month accused of carrying out a number of attacks in portugal, he is being named as the prime suspect in the case.

Sketches that allegedly was drawn by madeleine mccann suspect christian brueckner are to be used in court against him.

What do you think of the latest development and do you think that he could be the one who did it?"

What are the sketches ?

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

Sketches that allegedly was drawn by madeleine mccann suspect christian brueckner are to be used in court against him.

What are the sketches of ?"
I am not sure, they didnt show them or say what it was.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
41 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

"There seems to be an break through in the case.

Apparently christian brueckner is standing trial this month accused of carrying out a number of attacks in portugal, he is being named as the prime suspect in the case.

Sketches that allegedly was drawn by madeleine mccann suspect christian brueckner are to be used in court against him.

What do you think of the latest development and do you think that he could be the one who did it?

What are the sketches ?"

I think the whole scenario is pretty sketchy.

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By *AYENCouple
41 weeks ago

Lincolnshire

The police want closure on this and to me, it sounds like a 'he'll do' type of charge. K.

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By *ackformore100Man
41 weeks ago

Tin town

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

So you have no proof then. Thanks for clarifying.

What makes you “think” that thru are holding back info? To hold such a strong and negative view, it must be based on something, surely?

I didn’t say they weren’t involved, so have no idea why you are asking me for proof. I’m firmly in the camp of leaving it to the investigators rather than posting hurtful opinions.

I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.

I’d like to think anyone actually studying that stuff wouldn’t give comment on it from what they’ve seen in a few TV appearances

A professional would want to actually meet and speak with these people being making such a huge statement about them knowing more and hiding info about their kids abduction

This is how you can always spot the fakes or the ones that shouldn’t be listened too. The same way you wouldn’t trust a doctor to diagnose an illness over a few pictures of yourself

Comments like these are the ones that should bar people from working with patients. It shows a completely lack of professionalism "

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By *heelz69Man
41 weeks ago

Manchester

"The police want closure on this and to me, it sounds like a 'he'll do' type of charge. K."

Totally agree

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By *ackformore100Man
41 weeks ago

Tin town

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth

Any proof that the are holding info back?

Care to share what you believe they know but haven’t “let on”?

Or just baseless allegations based on a hunch?

I knew there would be one. I didn’t say there was any proof they’re holding things back, I said “I think”. Because that’s what I do think.

Do you have any proof they weren’t involved? No you don’t

Thankfully there are more than one and thankfully a higher burden of proof is required than idle Internet chat room speculation based on selected and limited information.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"I think he could be the one

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Yes. I also reckon that he could be the one too.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"I hope so, the family need closure and it will end speculation "
Yes. I also hope so and you are right there, the family need closure as well.

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By *ssex_tomMan
41 weeks ago

Chelmsford

There is a lot more to this than meets the eye ...

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By *hagTonight OP Man
41 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"He could well be the one who “did it”.

But I still think the family know more than they’re letting on. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth"
Hi harlot, yes, he might be the one and I also think that the family know more as well.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
41 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

"Totally agree.

They know more"

What more do they know?

I mean you must know to know that they know

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By *hilloutMan
41 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

The first people the McCanns contacted upon Maddie's disappearance weren't the authorities but officials of the British consulate in Portimão, who were acquaintances / friends of Gerry. Not a normal course of action at all...

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By *ackformore100Man
41 weeks ago

Tin town

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

No much easier to speak to the locals, you don't speak the language and don't know the system. I mean who would, in an emergency in a foreign country, reach out to a friend who works and knows how to activate the local police.? Much better to struggle with strangers.

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By *hilloutMan
41 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

Most people in the Algarve speak English so that is a complete non issue. Most people in the police force, especially younger, also speak decent English.

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By *ackformore100Man
41 weeks ago

Tin town

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

Most people in the Algarve speak English so that is a complete non issue. Most people in the police force, especially younger, also speak decent English."

Seriously. The first people you're supposed to contact for support as a British national in a foreign country is the british consulate. You're mind is made up for whatever reasons. But choosing to contact the consulate surely isn't one of them.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
41 weeks ago

Leeds

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

I thought the first person they contacted was the Catholic priest in Liverpool, then a sister who alerted British Breakfast TV

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By *hilloutMan
41 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

Most people in the Algarve speak English so that is a complete non issue. Most people in the police force, especially younger, also speak decent English.

So a 4 year old goes missing in the evening and you contact the British consulate first instead of law enforcement? Right....

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By *hilloutMan
41 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

I thought the first person they contacted was the Catholic priest in Liverpool, then a sister who alerted British Breakfast TV"

I was living in the Algarve when this happened. It was a media circus with wall to wall coverage. This information came to light after some investigation.

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By *otyouraverageguyMan
41 weeks ago

W Midlands & N Wales

Have heard a podcast interview with one of the UKs leading investigators (can't remember his name), who had reviewed the case independently

Pretty sure he said that this guy is a complete red herring as he is the most cast iron alibi that there could be

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By *ackformore100Man
41 weeks ago

Tin town

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

Most people in the Algarve speak English so that is a complete non issue. Most people in the police force, especially younger, also speak decent English.

So a 4 year old goes missing in the evening and you contact the British consulate first instead of law enforcement? Right...."

No not instead of,as well as. But you seem to be agitated by the sequence of the timing of how people respond under extreme duress. The met police and gov website suggest contacting the fcdo(consulate), the UK police and the local police for anyone going missing overseas. Perhaps at 11 at night the local cop shop was closed? Who knows.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
40 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"There seems to be an break through in the case.

Apparently christian brueckner is standing trial this month accused of carrying out a number of attacks in portugal, he is being named as the prime suspect in the case.

Sketches that allegedly was drawn by madeleine mccann suspect christian brueckner are to be used in court against him.

What do you think of the latest development and do you think that he could be the one who did it?

What are the sketches ?"
Hi nell, they didnt say or show any sketches of what it is.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
40 weeks ago

Leeds

"Have heard a podcast interview with one of the UKs leading investigators (can't remember his name), who had reviewed the case independently

Pretty sure he said that this guy is a complete red herring as he is the most cast iron alibi that there could be"

What is his alibi ?

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By *otyouraverageguyMan
40 weeks ago

W Midlands & N Wales

Can't remember if they said it explicitly or not.

The guy was pretty kosher in terms of an investigator though and had some a full independent review of the case

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By *allySlinkyWoman
40 weeks ago

Leeds

Maybe the cast iron alibi is why he hasn't been charged with her abduction.

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By *ndycoinsMan
40 weeks ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"The whole case is mired in mystery and intrigue.

Most people in the Algarve speak English so that is a complete non issue. Most people in the police force, especially younger, also speak decent English."

Is that why the first suspect Robert Murat was a volunteer interpreter for the Portuguese Police?More accurately a volunteer interpreter for Brits who found themselves in trouble with the Cops,whose low level of English meant the problem could only be sorted at the station.Maybe now a higher standard of English is prevalent amongst cops in tourist areas,back then it wasn't,which is why the Portugese Police regularly used Murat.

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By *og-ManMan
40 weeks ago

somewhere

Think the parents fucked up in a very bad way by leaving the children on their own while they went out for drinks away from the apartment

Completely selfish of them and the friends

I don't think they did it but made it easier for someone else to do it and that the body will never be found

They have to live with the guilt and shame so God love them

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By *batMan
40 weeks ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

What Bog Man said.

Gbat

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