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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Recent reports of newborn babies abandoned in pub toilets and in shopping bags etc

A new campaign calls for baby banks to be introduced like they have in parts of Europe, most famous for inventing the EU. This will allow mothers who do not want their new born babies to be free of police action if the baby is unharmed. Simply pop the baby into the warm baby bank and a signal is sent for the authorities to collect the baby. It sounds a sensible alternative to babies being abandoned in shopping bags which are not very warm. Copying Europe is not just a solution. It's an oven ready solution. Will it work here. It's all over the news

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Simply pop the baby into the warm baby bank. It's an oven ready solution."

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex

How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked. "

Isn’t that what a hospital is for?

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

I didn’t think this is what baby banks were

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Recent reports of newborn babies abandoned in pub toilets and in shopping bags etc

A new campaign calls for baby banks to be introduced like they have in parts of Europe, most famous for inventing the EU. This will allow mothers who do not want their new born babies to be free of police action if the baby is unharmed. Simply pop the baby into the warm baby bank and a signal is sent for the authorities to collect the baby. It sounds a sensible alternative to babies being abandoned in shopping bags which are not very warm. Copying Europe is not just a solution. It's an oven ready solution. Will it work here. It's all over the news"

I thought we left the EU.

Oven ready babies op. Are you okay?

No. Oven ready babies op what are you thinking of.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked.

Isn’t that what a hospital is for? "

On the face if it yes. However if for some reason you're concealing a pregnancy you won't go to one. I think a lot of women who leave babies have given birth alone after hiding their pregnancy.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked. "

That's impossible to create purely based on the reasons why a woman will abandon her baby. What you are suggesting means she is identified even with a fake name face to face and goes against exactly the reason she's abandoning in many situations. I can't elaborate on them because the are banned subjects as far as this forum goes.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked.

That's impossible to create purely based on the reasons why a woman will abandon her baby. What you are suggesting means she is identified even with a fake name face to face and goes against exactly the reason she's abandoning in many situations. I can't elaborate on them because the are banned subjects as far as this forum goes."

I see what you're saying. I'm thinking if a no questions asked type situation. Impossible really when I think about it

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked.

That's impossible to create purely based on the reasons why a woman will abandon her baby. What you are suggesting means she is identified even with a fake name face to face and goes against exactly the reason she's abandoning in many situations. I can't elaborate on them because the are banned subjects as far as this forum goes.

I see what you're saying. I'm thinking if a no questions asked type situation. Impossible really when I think about it"

Yes very, because a woman may not even want to be seen because of the fear and immense shame she's dealing with, and that can be because she's abandoning or becasue of the original reason she feels she has to. Or both

I do think being anonymous and able to leave the baby somewhere safe is a good idea. She can also potentially come forward as the mother later and say exactly where and when she left the baby and it's all recorded.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked.

That's impossible to create purely based on the reasons why a woman will abandon her baby. What you are suggesting means she is identified even with a fake name face to face and goes against exactly the reason she's abandoning in many situations. I can't elaborate on them because the are banned subjects as far as this forum goes.

I see what you're saying. I'm thinking if a no questions asked type situation. Impossible really when I think about it

Yes very, because a woman may not even want to be seen because of the fear and immense shame she's dealing with, and that can be because she's abandoning or becasue of the original reason she feels she has to. Or both

I do think being anonymous and able to leave the baby somewhere safe is a good idea. She can also potentially come forward as the mother later and say exactly where and when she left the baby and it's all recorded. "

Exactly this op.

Scared, frightened, alone where do women go when they want or need support.

We need to do something for mothers who obviously need care and support.

Enjoy your birthday PW x

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

Unwanted babies is on the uncrease

Maybe we need lots more to encourage protected sex. Never say no to a condom unless you want a baby.

I wonder if any people on fab ever had unprotected sex and gotten pregnant. Specially those bareback riders on here.

Wear protection.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"How about a safe place a frightened pregnant woman could go before the baby was born so she could get pre natal care for herself and the baby, give birth safely and get follow up care for them both. Then if she wanted to walk away after the baby was born she'd be allowed to with no questions asked.

That's impossible to create purely based on the reasons why a woman will abandon her baby. What you are suggesting means she is identified even with a fake name face to face and goes against exactly the reason she's abandoning in many situations. I can't elaborate on them because the are banned subjects as far as this forum goes.

I see what you're saying. I'm thinking if a no questions asked type situation. Impossible really when I think about it

Yes very, because a woman may not even want to be seen because of the fear and immense shame she's dealing with, and that can be because she's abandoning or becasue of the original reason she feels she has to. Or both

I do think being anonymous and able to leave the baby somewhere safe is a good idea. She can also potentially come forward as the mother later and say exactly where and when she left the baby and it's all recorded. "

Maybe the two could run side by side.

I'm living in cloud cuckoo land I know but I can dream.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Unwanted babies is on the uncrease

Maybe we need lots more to encourage protected sex. Never say no to a condom unless you want a baby.

I wonder if any people on fab ever had unprotected sex and gotten pregnant. Specially those bareback riders on here.

Wear protection.

"

I became pregnant ages 46 while using condoms.

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By *usie pTV/TS
42 weeks ago

taunton

Its a tragedy that anyone would suffer this sense of shame in this day and age, normally inflicted by religious zealots who worship some kind of god ffs.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex

Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?"

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to "

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to "

Yet on the side he can get a woman to abandon when HE doesn't want the child and force her into doing so in that manner. And in the process her rights are fucked.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right"

Seems a little fucked to me, but that’s probably why it can’t happen. Morally seems wrong in the father

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By *allySlinkyWoman
42 weeks ago

Leeds


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?"

I don't think so because they would need your NHS number to ensure you are entitled to free treatment

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

Quick check

“In the United Kingdom, both parents generally have legal rights and responsibilities regarding their child. This includes the father's right to know about and be involved in the child's life”

Think anon birth and abandon would potentially have some legal issues

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right

Seems a little fucked to me, but that’s probably why it can’t happen. Morally seems wrong in the father "

If all fathers have a right to know about all their children how do we deal with sperm donation. Especially the men who were guaranteed anonymity. It's not a straightforward question with one answer in my opinion

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

I don't think so because they would need your NHS number to ensure you are entitled to free treatment"

Good point.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
42 weeks ago

Leeds

I think they have changed the sperm donor law now and age 18 you can ask for your father to be identified

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"I think they have changed the sperm donor law now and age 18 you can ask for your father to be identified"

Yes they have but the men who donated prior to that change still have anonymity.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right

Seems a little fucked to me, but that’s probably why it can’t happen. Morally seems wrong in the father

If all fathers have a right to know about all their children how do we deal with sperm donation. Especially the men who were guaranteed anonymity. It's not a straightforward question with one answer in my opinion "

Completely separate issue because the fathers have agreed to give sperm and not be involved with the child

That may not be the case when a child is birthed and abandoned anonymously

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By *ittle Miss TinkerbellWoman
42 weeks ago

your head

Yes I think it's a good idea.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right

Seems a little fucked to me, but that’s probably why it can’t happen. Morally seems wrong in the father

If all fathers have a right to know about all their children how do we deal with sperm donation. Especially the men who were guaranteed anonymity. It's not a straightforward question with one answer in my opinion

Completely separate issue because the fathers have agreed to give sperm and not be involved with the child

That may not be the case when a child is birthed and abandoned anonymously "

True. I'm just thinking how the whole thing would work in the best interests if everyone involved. As with almost every human situation there's no one answer that's fair to everyone

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex

I would point out that I'm in favour of a safe place to leave babies

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right

Seems a little fucked to me, but that’s probably why it can’t happen. Morally seems wrong in the father

If all fathers have a right to know about all their children how do we deal with sperm donation. Especially the men who were guaranteed anonymity. It's not a straightforward question with one answer in my opinion

Completely separate issue because the fathers have agreed to give sperm and not be involved with the child

That may not be the case when a child is birthed and abandoned anonymously

True. I'm just thinking how the whole thing would work in the best interests if everyone involved. As with almost every human situation there's no one answer that's fair to everyone "

True, it’s never going to have a correct answer, just the best of a not great situation

I feel a lot of people also forget about the child’s rights. Does the child not have a right to know who its parents are?

Maybe the mum has chosen to birth and abandon anonymously so no

But the father might not have been involved in the decision and it’s his right, and the child’s right, to know each other if they want

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan
42 weeks ago

St Leonards


"Recent reports of newborn babies abandoned in pub toilets and in shopping bags etc

A new campaign calls for baby banks to be introduced like they have in parts of Europe, most famous for inventing the EU. This will allow mothers who do not want their new born babies to be free of police action if the baby is unharmed. Simply pop the baby into the warm baby bank and a signal is sent for the authorities to collect the baby. It sounds a sensible alternative to babies being abandoned in shopping bags which are not very warm. Copying Europe is not just a solution. It's an oven ready solution. Will it work here. It's all over the news"

Whatever the solutions to this tragedy for all parties may be, I'm sure they'll come magically true if we put them on the side of a big red bus.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?

Probably not, because doesn’t the father have some right in knowing about the baby?

If you give birth anon and abandon the baby anon, the father has no way to know his child if he wants to

I don't know if legally the father has a right I don't know if *all* fathers have a moral right

Seems a little fucked to me, but that’s probably why it can’t happen. Morally seems wrong in the father

If all fathers have a right to know about all their children how do we deal with sperm donation. Especially the men who were guaranteed anonymity. It's not a straightforward question with one answer in my opinion

Completely separate issue because the fathers have agreed to give sperm and not be involved with the child

That may not be the case when a child is birthed and abandoned anonymously

True. I'm just thinking how the whole thing would work in the best interests if everyone involved. As with almost every human situation there's no one answer that's fair to everyone

True, it’s never going to have a correct answer, just the best of a not great situation

I feel a lot of people also forget about the child’s rights. Does the child not have a right to know who its parents are?

Maybe the mum has chosen to birth and abandon anonymously so no

But the father might not have been involved in the decision and it’s his right, and the child’s right, to know each other if they want "

I've been watching a program about donor conceived children who trace their siblings or fathers and in one case parents (donated embryo). They all had a deep need to know their genetic roots so yes, I'd say (with certain reservations) it is a child's right.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
42 weeks ago

Stockport


"Hypothetically could a woman ask for anonymity at a hospital?"

Part of the sharing, caring Braverman laws is to assume that anyone unwilling to identify themselves must be an illegal person attempting to "take advantage" of the wonderful social provisions of this country. Hence the "correct" action of the nursing staff would be to refuse medical treatment and call the police.

Also any abandoned baby found, if not in possession of passport, must be assumed to be an illegal immigrant, a criminal here only to steal jobs and claim benefits. Under the "turn back the boats" laws the baby should be either thrown back in the water or deported to Rwanda.

*Satire (but only just) alert. However if the baby had managed to grow to age 15 or so, and had skin colour anything less than purest white, there are many in our current society that would have orgasms at the sight of said child being deported. (Braverman, Patel, Badenoch, Anderson, Sunak, Truss, Farage, everyone that thinks GB News is a news channel, a good proportion of Conservative party members, and probably about 30% of the public, who defend these policies and put this bunch of despicable people in charge in the first place)

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By *ugby 123Couple
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42 weeks ago

O o O oo

I saw this on an American programme , I think it is a better idea than leaving them out in the cold. I am not sure how many would use it though as if they are in that state of mind that they are going to abandon the baby would they go near anything that may have cameras on.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex


"I saw this on an American programme , I think it is a better idea than leaving them out in the cold. I am not sure how many would use it though as if they are in that state of mind that they are going to abandon the baby would they go near anything that may have cameras on."

Good point. It must be terrifying

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By *naswingdressWoman
42 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"

I've been watching a program about donor conceived children who trace their siblings or fathers and in one case parents (donated embryo). They all had a deep need to know their genetic roots so yes, I'd say (with certain reservations) it is a child's right. "

Surely it's got to be a balancing act in this sort of desperate situation. Sort of, after things get to a certain level of bad, you deal with the top priorities then let the chips fall where they may.

In this case, if I were looking for answers, I would be looking to ensure a) the baby is safe and well, b) the mother doesn't bleed out or something if they've had a pregnancy without adequate medical intervention. Stuff after that feels like more of a luxury. (Not like, a child knowing their parents is like Gucci sunglasses, more, a child getting adequate nutrition is more important than ensuring that they have access to more than two different kinds of fruit, even if I'd rather both be true)

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
42 weeks ago

Tamworth

It's a fantastic idea. They work in many countries in Europe, many States in the US. We should have them here.

Unwanted pregnancies are difficult to manage. It's not always down to not being responsible and practising safe sex, bringing another safe option to deal with that can only be a benefit to the child and hopefully the parent(s).

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Should we not adopt this idea in safe places like supermarkets. Drop the unwanted baby in safe space and continue with your shopping..

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

I've been watching a program about donor conceived children who trace their siblings or fathers and in one case parents (donated embryo). They all had a deep need to know their genetic roots so yes, I'd say (with certain reservations) it is a child's right.

The law surrounding anonymity in sperm donors only happened in 2003, so we've only had a couple of years where donor conceived children could identify the donor.

I disagree that people have a deep seated need to know their genetic roots. I used a donor to have my son, and he has known since he could talk that he doesn't have a dad, just a donor. He has shown absolutely zero interest in this, despite my complete openess and regular conversation.

I think a lot of the people from the program didn't know they were donor conceived, or found out late in life.

Essentially donors provide an ingredient, they aren't a parent. And I'm hoping with openess and honesty my child won't feel like he is missing out on something.

And safe haven drop off for babies is an excellent thing. We should definitely implement it in this country.

But women can turn up in hospital, give birth and them leave without the child too.

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
42 weeks ago

Tamworth


"Should we not adopt this idea in safe places like supermarkets. Drop the unwanted baby in safe space and continue with your shopping.. "

Could potentially be too crowded for many.

Lots of places that have successfully brought them in have them stationed at fire stations, police stations, ambulance stations etc. Churches could be another, GP surgeries, children's centers etc may also work

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
42 weeks ago

North East Scotland, mostly


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine"

Tom, I know it's your modus operandi, but must you persist in being so flippant about a very traumatic subject? There's controversial and then there's downright awful.

Mrs TMN

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

This is dangerously brilliant and stupidly genius

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

O o O oo


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine"

Were you expecting people to take your OP as a joke so you could then post things like this?

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By *emorefridaCouple
42 weeks ago

La la land


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine"

Tom there's so much snobbery in this I'm taken a back to it. You've said mother's with unwanted babies further up, there is so much presumption. The child maybe wanted but she may live where there is a risk of violence to her child. Maybe she wants a better life for her child. Dash up the motorway, yeah cause it's that easy? You've given birth possibly in secret had to deliver your own child, do you realise how traumatic giving birth can be even when in hospital, let alone in those circumstances. You're entitled to post what you want within the rules. But to me this thread of yours is beyond the pale.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

Tom there's so much snobbery in this I'm taken a back to it. You've said mother's with unwanted babies further up, there is so much presumption. The child maybe wanted but she may live where there is a risk of violence to her child. Maybe she wants a better life for her child. Dash up the motorway, yeah cause it's that easy? You've given birth possibly in secret had to deliver your own child, do you realise how traumatic giving birth can be even when in hospital, let alone in those circumstances. You're entitled to post what you want within the rules. But to me this thread of yours is beyond the pale. "

Do you think he’s seriously suggesting giving birth in the m6 services at Greggs and making sure you don’t overstay the 4 hour limit?

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

Tom there's so much snobbery in this I'm taken a back to it. You've said mother's with unwanted babies further up, there is so much presumption. The child maybe wanted but she may live where there is a risk of violence to her child. Maybe she wants a better life for her child. Dash up the motorway, yeah cause it's that easy? You've given birth possibly in secret had to deliver your own child, do you realise how traumatic giving birth can be even when in hospital, let alone in those circumstances. You're entitled to post what you want within the rules. But to me this thread of yours is beyond the pale.

Do you think he’s seriously suggesting giving birth in the m6 services at Greggs and making sure you don’t overstay the 4 hour limit? "

No. Just dropping them off.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Should we not adopt this idea in safe places like supermarkets. Drop the unwanted baby in safe space and continue with your shopping.. "

Surely the returns section would be more appropriate

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By *emorefridaCouple
42 weeks ago

La la land


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

Tom there's so much snobbery in this I'm taken a back to it. You've said mother's with unwanted babies further up, there is so much presumption. The child maybe wanted but she may live where there is a risk of violence to her child. Maybe she wants a better life for her child. Dash up the motorway, yeah cause it's that easy? You've given birth possibly in secret had to deliver your own child, do you realise how traumatic giving birth can be even when in hospital, let alone in those circumstances. You're entitled to post what you want within the rules. But to me this thread of yours is beyond the pale.

Do you think he’s seriously suggesting giving birth in the m6 services at Greggs and making sure you don’t overstay the 4 hour limit? "

I don't know, why don't you ask him yourself if you are that interested?

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine"

Someone’s really upset and confused by your comment

Were you being 100% cereal no cap on god? Or were you maybe exaggerating/being a little ridiculous

Asking for a very concerned forum member

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By *arlot o scaraWoman
42 weeks ago

Hell

I’ve seen baby banks on tv and honestly, for someone who feels like they have absolutely no choice - at least the baby would be safe.

There was an awful case a couple of years ago local to me where a baby was found on the golf course. I don’t think the parents were found. God knows what must have lead up to that happening, it was heartbreaking.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

Tom there's so much snobbery in this I'm taken a back to it. You've said mother's with unwanted babies further up, there is so much presumption. The child maybe wanted but she may live where there is a risk of violence to her child. Maybe she wants a better life for her child. Dash up the motorway, yeah cause it's that easy? You've given birth possibly in secret had to deliver your own child, do you realise how traumatic giving birth can be even when in hospital, let alone in those circumstances. You're entitled to post what you want within the rules. But to me this thread of yours is beyond the pale. "

It's a petition and a campaign brought by a lady who was abandoned as child. The lady is campaigning for safe spaces for babies to be placed...

Not palatable ? It really is all over the news...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

Were you expecting people to take your OP as a joke so you could then post things like this? "

No. Next question ?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
42 weeks ago

ashford

Very good idea yes x

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
42 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Yikes

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan
42 weeks ago

St Leonards


"Yikes "

Come on. At least offer an abandoned jelly baby if you're popping up here Titz.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
42 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"Yikes

Come on. At least offer an abandoned jelly baby if you're popping up here Titz."

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

O o O oo


"Motorway Services could work well ... Dash up the M6 then pull over for a Greggs or a Costa to refresh after dropping your newborn in a safe place... As long as the mum does not stay more than 4 hours then she will be fine and not face a fine

Were you expecting people to take your OP as a joke so you could then post things like this?

No. Next question ?"

I have the answer I expected. I don't have any more.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
42 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

I wish there could be a safe place for Mum and her baby, maybe with support from non judgemental professionals outcomes could be different for both with support starting from conception. It must be an awful thing to go through alone, I cannot imagine what happens in someone's life to drive them to abandon their baby.

People saying about father rights, all well and good but what if that means the Mother having to consider the rights of her attacker? And if his rights mean so much then why was the Mother left to face these decisions alone. The issues are so complex.

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By *JandCMCouple
42 weeks ago

cardiff

It's simple, if you don't want or can't afford or not in a steady relationship or have support, then don't have a baby.

Just because you have sex don't mean you should risk getting pregnant, there are plenty of ways to not get pregnant or even if you do get pregnant then there is the option of an adoption.

It's just commonsense.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
42 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders


"It's simple, if you don't want or can't afford or not in a steady relationship or have support, then don't have a baby.

Just because you have sex don't mean you should risk getting pregnant, there are plenty of ways to not get pregnant or even if you do get pregnant then there is the option of an adoption.

It's just commonsense.

"

What about people who are in abusive relationships? Or if the pregnancy was a product of an attack by randoms?

It's not a black and white issue

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By *naswingdressWoman
42 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I wish there could be a safe place for Mum and her baby, maybe with support from non judgemental professionals outcomes could be different for both with support starting from conception. It must be an awful thing to go through alone, I cannot imagine what happens in someone's life to drive them to abandon their baby.

People saying about father rights, all well and good but what if that means the Mother having to consider the rights of her attacker? And if his rights mean so much then why was the Mother left to face these decisions alone. The issues are so complex. "

Agreed. The place you'd have to be in for these services to be necessary... my heart goes out to anyone in that situation.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

O o O oo


"I wish there could be a safe place for Mum and her baby, maybe with support from non judgemental professionals outcomes could be different for both with support starting from conception. It must be an awful thing to go through alone, I cannot imagine what happens in someone's life to drive them to abandon their baby.

People saying about father rights, all well and good but what if that means the Mother having to consider the rights of her attacker? And if his rights mean so much then why was the Mother left to face these decisions alone. The issues are so complex. "

To be fair, it may not have anything to do with what you suggest and a father may not have been told.

As you say the issues are very complex and for anyone to be in that position for whatever reason, to go through it alone and feel like she can't turn to anyone for help is heartbreaking.

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