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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using?" The Fab Bible obviously. It's a single page of parchment inscribed with. Thou shall have fun. | |||
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"We have a little Good News Red Bible that one of my children acquired from their friend who comes from a Religious family. I didn’t want to throw it out just in case I got struck by lightning or something! "I still have my childhood bible for the same ressr | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories" This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things | |||
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"A good friend of mine lost his way chasing that first dragon, inevitably served four years at his majesty’s pleasure; anyways, on induction he spent ten mins with the pastor. Paster asked if he’d read the bible and my pal says no chance, Pastor says, “let’s see, read it once and I’ll wager you a quicker parole” Nothing to lose, he ended up reading it six times in the four years he served, was originally sentenced to seven years and has never offended again; not touched the drink or otherwise ever since! Whatever bible speaks to you OP, that’s the best one for you "The statistics on recovery are pretty phenomenal. I know a 2 ministers who were ex-enforcers in the uk who’s lives we’re saved by finding bibles in prison - and probably other peoples too  | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories" Perhaps fairy stories to you, absolutely essential to others!! | |||
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"A good friend of mine lost his way chasing that first dragon, inevitably served four years at his majesty’s pleasure; anyways, on induction he spent ten mins with the pastor. Paster asked if he’d read the bible and my pal says no chance, Pastor says, “let’s see, read it once and I’ll wager you a quicker parole” Nothing to lose, he ended up reading it six times in the four years he served, was originally sentenced to seven years and has never offended again; not touched the drink or otherwise ever since! Whatever bible speaks to you OP, that’s the best one for you " , that's a really inspirational story. | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things "Some people do. Some believe in Bigfoot or flat earth, etc. Religion uses brainwashing at an early age so that it's harder to ditch the nonsense once adulthood and critical thinking kicks in. | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things
Some people do. Some believe in Bigfoot or flat earth, etc. Religion uses brainwashing at an early age so that it's harder to ditch the nonsense once adulthood and critical thinking kicks in.
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things "It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame | |||
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"I’m an atheist - but belief in a good (any god) is personal. If someone truly believes, and that belief allows them to live their life, achieve things in their career or interests, makes them strive to be the best version of them that they can be - then the actual reality of their god ceases to be relevant. The belief is enough " Yes it’s personal, and then the clever ones organise the people with personal gods into a group and get them to kill other groups with personal gods whilst extracting lots of money from them and fucking their children, oh and taking the moral high ground | |||
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"I’m an atheist - but belief in a good (any god) is personal. If someone truly believes, and that belief allows them to live their life, achieve things in their career or interests, makes them strive to be the best version of them that they can be - then the actual reality of their god ceases to be relevant. The belief is enough Yes it’s personal, and then the clever ones organise the people with personal gods into a group and get them to kill other groups with personal gods whilst extracting lots of money from them and fucking their children, oh and taking the moral high ground " Pretty much this. How anyone can believe in all this shit in 2024 is beyond me. You are born - live - die - rot - end | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels?" Which bit is true? | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels?" No historians would use a bible as a reference book. Ive no problem with it or any other religious text being in the fiction section of a library. | |||
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"The big one i found in my old apartment made great fire wood "Is the fire still burning ..I’m bloody freezing after that run and I didn’t prep the heating | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true?" Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? No historians would use a bible as a reference book. Ive no problem with it or any other religious text being in the fiction section of a library." I hope no historian would use any novel as a reference book | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. " Yep, this . | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? No historians would use a bible as a reference book. Ive no problem with it or any other religious text being in the fiction section of a library. I hope no historian would use any novel as a reference book" You were the one who said some parts were true, and I was merely pointing out that as an historical document it isn't. | |||
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"Ezekiel 23:20 is the good bit."  they avoid that one in Sunday school | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things
It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame "You'll find (aside from certain obscure cults) that no religion or faith brainwashes anyone. Especially when compared to other institutions such as media, education etc. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. " No credible historian, one who isn’t a believer, has ever said that Jesus existed, and none of the thousands of verified historical texts ever mention him, strange given his apparent notoriety? | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things
It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame
You'll find (aside from certain obscure cults) that no religion or faith brainwashes anyone.
Especially when compared to other institutions such as media, education etc.
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things
It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame
You'll find (aside from certain obscure cults) that no religion or faith brainwashes anyone.
Especially when compared to other institutions such as media, education etc.
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"Ezekiel 23:20 is the good bit. they avoid that one in Sunday school "But study hard in the rectory...  | |||
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"Perhaps social indoctrination is a more apt term than brainwashing.." No convincing children to believe absolute bollocks is brainwashing | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. " Jesus saves... I've seen it written. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. Jesus saves... I've seen it written. " I think he uses a Nationwide high interest account. | |||
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"Perhaps social indoctrination is a more apt term than brainwashing.. No convincing children to believe absolute bollocks is brainwashing" Semantics.. | |||
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"I’m an atheist - but belief in a good (any god) is personal. If someone truly believes, and that belief allows them to live their life, achieve things in their career or interests, makes them strive to be the best version of them that they can be - then the actual reality of their god ceases to be relevant. The belief is enough Yes it’s personal, and then the clever ones organise the people with personal gods into a group and get them to kill other groups with personal gods whilst extracting lots of money from them and fucking their children, oh and taking the moral high ground Pretty much this. How anyone can believe in all this shit in 2024 is beyond me. You are born - live - die - rot - end "Because it's their choice. You believe in people making their own choices presumably. No need to try and offend those who have different beliefs to you. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. No credible historian, one who isn’t a believer, has ever said that Jesus existed, and none of the thousands of verified historical texts ever mention him, strange given his apparent notoriety?" Only because there isn’t archaeological records for virtually anyone who lived in Jesus’s time and place. And just because there aren’t records, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Archaeologists have been able to corroborate elements of the New Testament story of Jesus. Physical evidence of Roman crucifixions have also been found. So it is reasonable to assume he was a real person. It’s the rest of it that may be open to interpretation. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. No credible historian, one who isn’t a believer, has ever said that Jesus existed, and none of the thousands of verified historical texts ever mention him, strange given his apparent notoriety? Only because there isn’t archaeological records for virtually anyone who lived in Jesus’s time and place. And just because there aren’t records, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Archaeologists have been able to corroborate elements of the New Testament story of Jesus. Physical evidence of Roman crucifixions have also been found. So it is reasonable to assume he was a real person. It’s the rest of it that may be open to interpretation. " This is as insane as Batman being real because lots of people have friends called Robin. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. No credible historian, one who isn’t a believer, has ever said that Jesus existed, and none of the thousands of verified historical texts ever mention him, strange given his apparent notoriety? Only because there isn’t archaeological records for virtually anyone who lived in Jesus’s time and place. And just because there aren’t records, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Archaeologists have been able to corroborate elements of the New Testament story of Jesus. Physical evidence of Roman crucifixions have also been found. So it is reasonable to assume he was a real person. It’s the rest of it that may be open to interpretation. This is as insane as Batman being real because lots of people have friends called Robin. " Not really. The “story” of Jesus was written down by Scholars/Historian some centuries after it was all supposed to have happened, both Roman and Jewish. Is it so unreasonable to believe that a man named Jesus lived all that time ago? And maybe the tales of things he did got exaggerated (maybe) but the tales of him and his deeds lingers and stories are told around the fire. To bring comfort to people maybe. This goes on for years, until eventually somebody writes it down? I’m interested in History, not religion. I find it all quite interesting. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. No credible historian, one who isn’t a believer, has ever said that Jesus existed, and none of the thousands of verified historical texts ever mention him, strange given his apparent notoriety? Only because there isn’t archaeological records for virtually anyone who lived in Jesus’s time and place. And just because there aren’t records, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Archaeologists have been able to corroborate elements of the New Testament story of Jesus. Physical evidence of Roman crucifixions have also been found. So it is reasonable to assume he was a real person. It’s the rest of it that may be open to interpretation. This is as insane as Batman being real because lots of people have friends called Robin. Not really. The “story” of Jesus was written down by Scholars/Historian some centuries after it was all supposed to have happened, both Roman and Jewish. Is it so unreasonable to believe that a man named Jesus lived all that time ago? And maybe the tales of things he did got exaggerated (maybe) but the tales of him and his deeds lingers and stories are told around the fire. To bring comfort to people maybe. This goes on for years, until eventually somebody writes it down? I’m interested in History, not religion. I find it all quite interesting. " I’d investigate other historical areas if I were you, there are plenty of excellent books, Simon Sharmas history of Britain is brilliant, religious history is depressing as the real stuff is mainly killing and torturing people for money and power and rampant paedophilia | |||
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"And also, the ancient Egyptians believed in all sorts of Gods. They thought there was a Crocodile God (Sobek) and worshipped him. Temples were built to honour him. So ya know. Back then (and beyond) people believed all sorts of guff and documented it (paintings on tombs etc)." There have been over a thousand gods to date so if you only believe in one then you are an atheist to all the others | |||
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"I have nothing against religion per se and I probably do believe that there is something in it that comforts and offers support to people. And if asked I consider myself to be a Christian. It’s all the different factions and how they administer their interpretation of religion. That I have issues with For example. The Catholic Church has done some hideous things. The covering up of pe0dfile priests The hiv and population growth in sub sharan Africa (The main religion in the area and they won’t condone safe sex practices and actively push the opposite and claim it is a sin)One of the wealthiest organisations in the world begging pensioners every week to make donations to them. Also the very hard line Scottish free prespterian church. And their pushing of their beliefs on to others. I was lucky enough to spend some time on the remote isle of st kilda last summer and reading about the population and history there they had lived happily for generations with their ways and traditions. Up until a minister was sent to the island because it was deemed that they weren’t living in accordance to the ways of the lord and made them change how they lived and told them their ways were wrong. And yes that wasn’t the only issue they had but I do believe that was the start of the end for their way of life. I think Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and opinions and if they gain comfort and compassion from their beliefs then they are perfectly valid and nobody has the right to question that but in the same respect I don’t think they should be pushing their beliefs or feel like they have a duty to change or convert others. Apologises to the op and didn’t mean to leave such a long and unrelated reply to your post. I hope you find a bible suitable for your needs. " I don’t understand why you say you are a Christian and then go on to list all the atrocities committed by the Christian religions??? | |||
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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using?" Sorry OP, I don't have a clue unfortunately. What about an online version for portability? I'm not a lover thin book pages, but I have to be honest I prefer actual books. Shame your OP, is being taken over by religious debate. Books are wonderful things. | |||
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"I have nothing against religion per se and I probably do believe that there is something in it that comforts and offers support to people. And if asked I consider myself to be a Christian. It’s all the different factions and how they administer their interpretation of religion. That I have issues with For example. The Catholic Church has done some hideous things. The covering up of pe0dfile priests The hiv and population growth in sub sharan Africa (The main religion in the area and they won’t condone safe sex practices and actively push the opposite and claim it is a sin)One of the wealthiest organisations in the world begging pensioners every week to make donations to them. Also the very hard line Scottish free prespterian church. And their pushing of their beliefs on to others. I was lucky enough to spend some time on the remote isle of st kilda last summer and reading about the population and history there they had lived happily for generations with their ways and traditions. Up until a minister was sent to the island because it was deemed that they weren’t living in accordance to the ways of the lord and made them change how they lived and told them their ways were wrong. And yes that wasn’t the only issue they had but I do believe that was the start of the end for their way of life. I think Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and opinions and if they gain comfort and compassion from their beliefs then they are perfectly valid and nobody has the right to question that but in the same respect I don’t think they should be pushing their beliefs or feel like they have a duty to change or convert others. Apologises to the op and didn’t mean to leave such a long and unrelated reply to your post. I hope you find a bible suitable for your needs. I don’t understand why you say you are a Christian and then go on to list all the atrocities committed by the Christian religions??? " Just because I was brought up to believe the basic Christian values and believe that basic morality and Society in this country functions on these. But I question the whole sun of god and the miricales and stories. surrounding the aspect of religion I believe that due to My upbringing my morals are formed from The Christian religion. Even if I don’t agree with all of there beliefs and practices. | |||
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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using? Sorry OP, I don't have a clue unfortunately. What about an online version for portability? I'm not a lover thin book pages, but I have to be honest I prefer actual books. Shame your OP, is being taken over by religious debate. Books are wonderful things. " Books may not always contain wonderful things, but you can learn from them. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels? Which bit is true? Jesus was a real person according to scholars. A lot of accounts of events that took place describe actual traditions and activities of the time. No credible historian, one who isn’t a believer, has ever said that Jesus existed, and none of the thousands of verified historical texts ever mention him, strange given his apparent notoriety? Only because there isn’t archaeological records for virtually anyone who lived in Jesus’s time and place. And just because there aren’t records, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Archaeologists have been able to corroborate elements of the New Testament story of Jesus. Physical evidence of Roman crucifixions have also been found. So it is reasonable to assume he was a real person. It’s the rest of it that may be open to interpretation. This is as insane as Batman being real because lots of people have friends called Robin. Not really. The “story” of Jesus was written down by Scholars/Historian some centuries after it was all supposed to have happened, both Roman and Jewish. Is it so unreasonable to believe that a man named Jesus lived all that time ago? And maybe the tales of things he did got exaggerated (maybe) but the tales of him and his deeds lingers and stories are told around the fire. To bring comfort to people maybe. This goes on for years, until eventually somebody writes it down? I’m interested in History, not religion. I find it all quite interesting. " This! I won't go into what I've see and understood about organised religion and religion in general. OP's just asking a simple question, so it needs not any responses really outside of the question being asked. x | |||
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"I have nothing against religion per se and I probably do believe that there is something in it that comforts and offers support to people. And if asked I consider myself to be a Christian. It’s all the different factions and how they administer their interpretation of religion. That I have issues with For example. The Catholic Church has done some hideous things. The covering up of pe0dfile priests The hiv and population growth in sub sharan Africa (The main religion in the area and they won’t condone safe sex practices and actively push the opposite and claim it is a sin)One of the wealthiest organisations in the world begging pensioners every week to make donations to them. Also the very hard line Scottish free prespterian church. And their pushing of their beliefs on to others. I was lucky enough to spend some time on the remote isle of st kilda last summer and reading about the population and history there they had lived happily for generations with their ways and traditions. Up until a minister was sent to the island because it was deemed that they weren’t living in accordance to the ways of the lord and made them change how they lived and told them their ways were wrong. And yes that wasn’t the only issue they had but I do believe that was the start of the end for their way of life. I think Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and opinions and if they gain comfort and compassion from their beliefs then they are perfectly valid and nobody has the right to question that but in the same respect I don’t think they should be pushing their beliefs or feel like they have a duty to change or convert others. Apologises to the op and didn’t mean to leave such a long and unrelated reply to your post. I hope you find a bible suitable for your needs. I don’t understand why you say you are a Christian and then go on to list all the atrocities committed by the Christian religions??? Just because I was brought up to believe the basic Christian values and believe that basic morality and Society in this country functions on these. But I question the whole sun of god and the miricales and stories. surrounding the aspect of religion I believe that due to My upbringing my morals are formed from The Christian religion. Even if I don’t agree with all of there beliefs and practices. " I wouldn't like to think anyone would get their morals from a religious text. Stonings, beatings, ritual sacrifices etc. | |||
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"I have nothing against religion per se and I probably do believe that there is something in it that comforts and offers support to people. And if asked I consider myself to be a Christian. It’s all the different factions and how they administer their interpretation of religion. That I have issues with For example. The Catholic Church has done some hideous things. The covering up of pe0dfile priests The hiv and population growth in sub sharan Africa (The main religion in the area and they won’t condone safe sex practices and actively push the opposite and claim it is a sin)One of the wealthiest organisations in the world begging pensioners every week to make donations to them. Also the very hard line Scottish free prespterian church. And their pushing of their beliefs on to others. I was lucky enough to spend some time on the remote isle of st kilda last summer and reading about the population and history there they had lived happily for generations with their ways and traditions. Up until a minister was sent to the island because it was deemed that they weren’t living in accordance to the ways of the lord and made them change how they lived and told them their ways were wrong. And yes that wasn’t the only issue they had but I do believe that was the start of the end for their way of life. I think Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and opinions and if they gain comfort and compassion from their beliefs then they are perfectly valid and nobody has the right to question that but in the same respect I don’t think they should be pushing their beliefs or feel like they have a duty to change or convert others. Apologises to the op and didn’t mean to leave such a long and unrelated reply to your post. I hope you find a bible suitable for your needs. I don’t understand why you say you are a Christian and then go on to list all the atrocities committed by the Christian religions??? " So we have to airbrush over the bad stuff in order to associate? Does that mean that anybody British has to ignore the atrocities committed and problems caused by the British Empire? Or anybody who watches media has to ignore the cover ups of degenerate television presenters? It's important to confront and understand the past to move forward. | |||
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It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame "OP was asking for some advice Why do you feel the need to post several times on here mocking people for what they believe. If it helps them in their life in any way is that not a good thing ? Cant understand why you have to insult people, sad really | |||
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"A good friend of mine lost his way chasing that first dragon, inevitably served four years at his majesty’s pleasure; anyways, on induction he spent ten mins with the pastor. Paster asked if he’d read the bible and my pal says no chance, Pastor says, “let’s see, read it once and I’ll wager you a quicker parole” Seems custodial sentences do work Nothing to lose, he ended up reading it six times in the four years he served, was originally sentenced to seven years and has never offended again; not touched the drink or otherwise ever since! Whatever bible speaks to you OP, that’s the best one for you " | |||
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I fully support you in this
I am an atheist, in many respects I hold religion to be the root of much that is wrong in this world.
However I fully respect people’s views on religion
If they believe, part believe or just don’t know but get something of faith or comfort and it makes them better people, then it’s a good thing."Unfortunately religious people don’t allow their kids the choice, instead of allowing them to make decisions as adults they indoctrinate them from birth, this is why they should be challenged because it’s not about their own beliefs (which they got from their parents) it’s about the kids and vulnerable adults they infect | |||
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I fully support you in this
I am an atheist, in many respects I hold religion to be the root of much that is wrong in this world.
However I fully respect people’s views on religion
If they believe, part believe or just don’t know but get something of faith or comfort and it makes them better people, then it’s a good thing.
Unfortunately religious people don’t allow their kids the choice, instead of allowing them to make decisions as adults they indoctrinate them from birth, this is why they should be challenged because it’s not about their own beliefs (which they got from their parents) it’s about the kids and vulnerable adults they infect "My parents were very religious, my dad still is. It's actually made my brothers and I go the other way. Once we were about 11 or 12 we started to question it. | |||
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"Tried reading it once found it the most boring read ever and the least believable book I’ve read too. " It’s not exactly a page turner, and really jumps the shark towards the end. | |||
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Try posting on a Christian book site then"The op is perfectly entitled to post whatever they like on the forum as long as it doesn't break the rules. | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things
I fully support you in this
I am an atheist, in many respects I hold religion to be the root of much that is wrong in this world.
However I fully respect people’s views on religion
If they believe, part believe or just don’t know but get something of faith or comfort and it makes them better people, then it’s a good thing.
Unfortunately religious people don’t allow their kids the choice, instead of allowing them to make decisions as adults they indoctrinate them from birth, this is why they should be challenged because it’s not about their own beliefs (which they got from their parents) it’s about the kids and vulnerable adults they infect "Im a Roman Catholic, my son is a atheist. No offence but dont presume things | |||
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"Try a dose of reality, you will find you don’t need fairy stories This may be crazy for you to hear but people believe in different things
I fully support you in this
I am an atheist, in many respects I hold religion to be the root of much that is wrong in this world.
However I fully respect people’s views on religion
If they believe, part believe or just don’t know but get something of faith or comfort and it makes them better people, then it’s a good thing.
Unfortunately religious people don’t allow their kids the choice, instead of allowing them to make decisions as adults they indoctrinate them from birth, this is why they should be challenged because it’s not about their own beliefs (which they got from their parents) it’s about the kids and vulnerable adults they infect "Sorry mate. That's just judgemental nonsense. You might infect your vulnerable adults. Don't presume to talk for all the other parents. | |||
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It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame "This may also be crazy to you, but none of my family are religious; I became religious last year on my own accord and I’m still on my own personal journey. | |||
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It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame
This may also be crazy to you, but none of my family are religious; I became religious last year on my own accord and I’m still on my own personal journey. "Op you just do you and don’t worry about the rest and just live your best life. T | |||
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"If you want a "modern" translation, The Living Bible Edition" do a simple, pocket sized version. It's easy to read too." This is the one I was just looking at, it looks really nice…definitely onto a winner | |||
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It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame
This may also be crazy to you, but none of my family are religious; I became religious last year on my own accord and I’m still on my own personal journey. "My friends son is on a similar journey. He went along and sampled it when he was looking for something... Kept going back for a few months and now he's very interested and motivated to learn and explore and experience more. It helps him. It's been good for him so far. I imagine he may Change tack at some point but that's just fine. Right now he gets something from it. Whatever "it" is. | |||
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It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame
This may also be crazy to you, but none of my family are religious; I became religious last year on my own accord and I’m still on my own personal journey.
My friends son is on a similar journey. He went along and sampled it when he was looking for something... Kept going back for a few months and now he's very interested and motivated to learn and explore and experience more. It helps him. It's been good for him so far. I imagine he may Change tack at some point but that's just fine. Right now he gets something from it. Whatever "it" is. "I am the same. My relationship with religion and God is currently very complicated due to my own personal beliefs and views of God not aligning towards the typical views of Christianity and Catholicism. Nonetheless, something inside of me feels different now | |||
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It’s not crazy at all, you were brainwashed as a child and don’t seem to be able recognise this as an adult, I think it’s a shame
This may also be crazy to you, but none of my family are religious; I became religious last year on my own accord and I’m still on my own personal journey.
My friends son is on a similar journey. He went along and sampled it when he was looking for something... Kept going back for a few months and now he's very interested and motivated to learn and explore and experience more. It helps him. It's been good for him so far. I imagine he may Change tack at some point but that's just fine. Right now he gets something from it. Whatever "it" is.
I am the same. My relationship with religion and God is currently very complicated due to my own personal beliefs and views of God not aligning towards the typical views of Christianity and Catholicism. Nonetheless, something inside of me feels different now "And if it helps you. It works for you. As for your op. I'm afraid I don't know much about bibles. | |||
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"If you want a "modern" translation, The Living Bible Edition" do a simple, pocket sized version. It's easy to read too. This is the one I was just looking at, it looks really nice…definitely onto a winner" We have 7 translations (former Verger, Churchwarden, PCC etc.) But find this translation - albeit paraphrased - an easy one to read, as well as to carry. | |||
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"Do none of you who refuse to own a bible because it isn't true (some of it is) never read novels?" Yes but they don’t brainwash people or affect real life | |||
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"Idk why a simple question now has over a hundred responses lol - thank you to everyone who answered genuinely - I now have a few options to look into 3 Anything to do with the bible or religion will always spark 'debate' . It's one of the topics guaranteed to. "Whats the others? Politics I can imagine is one. As an ordained minister (yes really!) Im a committed atheist so thats what attracted me to this thread 
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Whats the others? Politics I can imagine is one. As an ordained minister (yes really!) Im a committed atheist so thats what attracted me to this thread
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Whats the others? Politics I can imagine is one. As an ordained minister (yes really!) Im a committed atheist so thats what attracted me to this thread
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"Im not religous in the conventional way. I dont follow an orginised religion due to religion being used to justify violence. That said, as Ive gotten older Ive come to believe in a power greater than myself and find comfort in believing that there is 'something' other than my own ego running things. If you read the bible, koran or anyother book and find comfort in it then let the others go fuck emself. An intresting side note is the continual validation through archiology of the events and places quoted in said religious texts." You are not on your own on here when it comes to the belief in the existence of a supreme being. I've actually been on meets where the subject of systems of morality has come up for discussion. However the guy's have usually been taught to be cautious, and have only revealed their practices when by a similar fidelity they have believed that I am worthy of that confidence. | |||
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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using?" I find toilet roll more absorbant | |||
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"Some of the people on these threads are truly full of hate .. zero consideration for people's thoughts or beliefs..did the thread ask for unwanted comments on your small minded opinions ? " It is what people do unfortunatelly. Grip on to anything to promote their own opinion and crate controversy even though the OP was only asking where to get one and not debating religion. It was bound to hapen though.I avoid politics and religious discussions on here like anything as anyone with moderate views gets drowned by those on the fringes. Give me a cake thread anytime. | |||
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"Pretty sure "God" wouldn't want "his" work discussed on a swinging site. Pretty sure all of us would "burn in hell" " Since most of the respondents don't believe in god it doesn't matter really. Most people who do believe in him/her believe the loving, forgiving version so you're safe. | |||
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"views of God not aligning towards the typical views of Christianity and Catholicism." Breaking news…. Catholicism IS Christianity. It was the first Christian religion and the others are a breakaway. Gbat (Atheist, holder of scripture “O” level (failed Eng Lit, but love books)). | |||
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"Trees give oxygen Bibles give At best false hope At worst guidance that being homosexual is inherently wrong "this is a quote from somebody but nevertheless a poignant one | |||
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"Pretty sure "God" wouldn't want "his" work discussed on a swinging site. Pretty sure all of us would "burn in hell" Since most of the respondents don't believe in god it doesn't matter really. Most people who do believe in him/her believe the loving, forgiving version so you're safe. I don't give a poo. Religion is why the world is so fucked Nothing to do with people or greed then? Maybe if more of our world leaders actually adhered to the New Testament the world would be a much better place. You mean things like Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. This might surprise you but lots of women speak in churches . Some are even allowed to be clergy "I was only quoting the book that you were advocating world leaders should follow. Or did you mean only the parts you agree with? | |||
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I was only quoting the book that you were advocating world leaders should follow. Or did you mean only the parts you agree with? "For example... So I take it you agree with Exodus 21 about how to own and treat the sl4ves you have and that they are your property. Unless you don't agree with that part too, and therefore created your own religion... | |||
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"views of God not aligning towards the typical views of Christianity and Catholicism. Breaking news…. Catholicism IS Christianity. It was the first Christian religion and the others are a breakaway. Gbat (Atheist, holder of scripture “O” level (failed Eng Lit, but love books)). " Yes, I am aware that Catholicism is Christianity thank you my distinction was for others that may not be aware | |||
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"You've certainly started something here op that's opened up a debate like none other. I'm just wondering when the forum mod's are going to close it down as it's got too big. So in case that happens, I'll reiterate the words of Dave Allen the Irish comedian. As he closed his show after cracking all the now politically incorrect jokes about Ian Paisley, and The Pope to name but a few, his parting words were, "Goodnight and may your God go with you!" So again, "Goodnight and may your God go with you!"" All I asked for was Bible recommendations not a debate lol | |||
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"Some of the people on these threads are truly full of hate .. zero consideration for people's thoughts or beliefs..did the thread ask for unwanted comments on your small minded opinions ? " Very true; since my new journey on religion I’ve felt a lot less hate in my heart and calmer for myself. So it doesn’t bother me anymore. Alas, it’s a shame people feel the need to share their unwanted opinions lol | |||
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"Some of the people on these threads are truly full of hate .. zero consideration for people's thoughts or beliefs..did the thread ask for unwanted comments on your small minded opinions ? Very true; since my new journey on religion I’ve felt a lot less hate in my heart and calmer for myself. So it doesn’t bother me anymore. Alas, it’s a shame people feel the need to share their unwanted opinions lol" Thats what you get on a public forum - differing opinions | |||
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"Some of the people on these threads are truly full of hate .. zero consideration for people's thoughts or beliefs..did the thread ask for unwanted comments on your small minded opinions ? Very true; since my new journey on religion I’ve felt a lot less hate in my heart and calmer for myself. So it doesn’t bother me anymore. Alas, it’s a shame people feel the need to share their unwanted opinions lol Thats what you get on a public forum - differing opinions " But I didn’t ask for those - I asked for bible recommendations. People can share their opinions all they want in a thread asking for their opinions alas I didn’t ask lol | |||
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"Some of the people on these threads are truly full of hate .. zero consideration for people's thoughts or beliefs..did the thread ask for unwanted comments on your small minded opinions ? Very true; since my new journey on religion I’ve felt a lot less hate in my heart and calmer for myself. So it doesn’t bother me anymore. Alas, it’s a shame people feel the need to share their unwanted opinions lol Thats what you get on a public forum - differing opinions But I didn’t ask for those - I asked for bible recommendations. People can share their opinions all they want in a thread asking for their opinions alas I didn’t ask lol" I know but people will still give their opinions especially on a subject like religion, politics, health etc etc | |||
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"I am aware that Catholicism is Christianity thank you. my distinction was for others that may not be aware " That makes no sense whatsoever. "I'll portray these things as different, but I know they are the same, but others might not know." Thou shalt not bear false witness. Gbat | |||
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"I am aware that Catholicism is Christianity thank you. my distinction was for others that may not be aware That makes no sense whatsoever. "I'll portray these things as different, but I know they are the same, but others might not know." Thou shalt not bear false witness. Gbat " I’m just used to doing so because my irl friends aren’t aware they are the same; it’s really not that deep or serious BD | |||
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"I don't have any I've never been a fan of fiction myself.." So you’ve never read a novel? Damn I feel sorry for you | |||
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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using?" When you say 'similar,' do you mean same translation? If not, you can get some pretty portable NIV Bibles. It's also available online, but then can't be employed in a sexy nun/vicar manner. | |||
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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using? The Fab Bible obviously. It's a single page of parchment inscribed with. Thou shall have fun. " Haha page 3..boobs Page 69.. Fuck knows End.. Fab was created in 7 days | |||
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"I am aware that Catholicism is Christianity thank you. my distinction was for others that may not be aware That makes no sense whatsoever. "I'll portray these things as different, but I know they are the same, but others might not know." Thou shalt not bear false witness. Gbat " It makes sense to me. Catholics are usually referred to as Catholics whereas all the other denominations get lumped in together as Christians. As I stated earlier, this is probably the Catholic superiority complex to blame!! | |||
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"I currently have an Oxford World Classics bible Anyone know of any bibles similar to this that will be more suitable for taking out with me? It’s a massive chunk of a thing and I don’t want to be lugging it around all the time lol. What Bible is everyone using? The Fab Bible obviously. It's a single page of parchment inscribed with. Thou shall have fun. " That the one that says... Judge anyone and belittle anyone who believes in different things than you? | |||
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"Catholicism IS Christianity. It was the first Christian religion and the others are a breakaway. " The Orthodox would disagree with you, as would Coptics and the Church of Antioch. | |||
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"I like the message bible by eugene Peterson. Technically it’s not bible but hey it’s good, really good. I also used the street bible when I working with teenagers, it’s really funny ! I think for my my favourite is the You-version app, because you can easily switch versions when you read something if it connects & you want to get closer to the Greek or Hebrew or more modern / post-modern you can just switch between 20-30 versions. For portability there’s a tiny NIV with waterproof camouflage cover that’s cool but the writing is so small " I can here to say The Message is interesting in that it’s contemporary language and not too hefty. | |||
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"What's interesting is the people that feel the need to share negative views on religion and Christianity.. have never even taken the time to read a Bible.. to have a worth while opinion you must first study the subject.. " Very true, thank you! And it’s also weird how they decided to do it on a post where it wasn’t asked for | |||
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"What's interesting is the people that feel the need to share negative views on religion and Christianity.. have never even taken the time to read a Bible.. to have a worth while opinion you must first study the subject.. Very true, thank you! And it’s also weird how they decided to do it on a post where it wasn’t asked for" That's what's stupid about the forums when you post a thread and ask a specific question you have trolls that pay no attention and just post negative pointless comments | |||
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