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"Why waste time, money and other resources to give more popularity to people like him? " Not sure anyone with half a brain cell could possibly like him after this. Devastating footage and testimony | |||
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"Why waste time, money and other resources to give more popularity to people like him? Not sure anyone with half a brain cell could possibly like him after this. Devastating footage and testimony" I see  | |||
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"Just waiting for his fanboys to pop up in this thread... " | |||
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"Is there one? That is much time I need to think about giving him any airtime in my life OP. Cunt " Couldn't agree more, hope this will see him disappear. | |||
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"I'm watching and taking notes very keenly. Seems like a superb way to live your life..." On a serious note, I think he's a genuine psychopath. If he's not already, he seems capable of being another Yorkshire ripper or something. How does society allow it lol | |||
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"I'm watching and taking notes very keenly. Seems like a superb way to live your life... On a serious note, I think he's a genuine psychopath. If he's not already, he seems capable of being another Yorkshire ripper or something. How does society allow it lol" I think you are right, definitely a sociopath. Read the book about how to identify a psychopath and he is off the scale. | |||
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"I'm recording it for the insight " Worth a watch. Had genuinely never really seen anything of him before tonight but really shocked that some might view him as some sort of role model | |||
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"I really don’t understand how the channel can give this evil bastard even more publicity. My 12 year old nephew thinks he’s a role model, I dread to think how he’s going to treat people when he’s older if it carries on. " So be a good uncle and show him the right way | |||
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"Is this the one where the documentary maker is bullied into fighting, or another one?" New C4 documentary | |||
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"I really don’t understand how the channel can give this evil bastard even more publicity. My 12 year old nephew thinks he’s a role model, I dread to think how he’s going to treat people when he’s older if it carries on. So be a good uncle and show him the right way " Oh I try! Sadly parents are divorced partly because his dad was mistreating my sister in law which hasn’t helped. Tbf he’s getting better but it’s hard work. | |||
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"I think we need to understand his appeal, so I will watch it. More Tates are out there, it's important to know what young men see in him not just dismiss him. " I’ve done this kind of thing before and for the same reason. But I don’t think I could stomach this one tonight. | |||
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"I cannot imagine anyone with any genuine self-respect giving the slightest credence to that angry chinless quarter-witted sociopath. If ever someone had Freudian 'mother' issues it's him." I’m going to have to jack “ angry chinless quarter-witted sociopath” from you. Just letting you know.  | |||
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"Really winds me up when people try to defend him with “well he does give some good advice for young men” Really? What? Work hard in your job and go to the gym? No ones ever said that until the guy that also attacks women said it? It’s such a cope. Any good advice he’s ever given has been given by people 1000x better than him and without the background of abusing women. I’m not gonna watch it because there’s nothing this guy can teach anyone, I’m just hoping it’s not trying to shine him in a bright light. " I agree entirely with all of this. What is more concerning though is how online algorithms will promote his content. Even if it's not first hand, it'll be videos of him giving his views on all sorts of things and it'll be toxic beyond measure. Scroll through YouTube shorts and you'll see exactly what I mean. I'm absolutely not the sort of person who watches content anything like what he, or people like him, would produce. Yet somehow it finds it way to me. More worryingly, it's finding its way to people a lot younger and it's genuinely quite dangerous. That, in addition to all the other toxic nonsense that's aimed squarely at disenfranchised young men, can be a terrible diet. YouTube is just one example, it's all over TikTok too. What the young are pushed into watching is one of the most profound digital challenges that we face because it isn't just him. | |||
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"Really winds me up when people try to defend him with “well he does give some good advice for young men” Really? What? Work hard in your job and go to the gym? No ones ever said that until the guy that also attacks women said it? It’s such a cope. Any good advice he’s ever given has been given by people 1000x better than him and without the background of abusing women. I’m not gonna watch it because there’s nothing this guy can teach anyone, I’m just hoping it’s not trying to shine him in a bright light. I agree entirely with all of this. What is more concerning though is how online algorithms will promote his content. Even if it's not first hand, it'll be videos of him giving his views on all sorts of things and it'll be toxic beyond measure. Scroll through YouTube shorts and you'll see exactly what I mean. I'm absolutely not the sort of person who watches content anything like what he, or people like him, would produce. Yet somehow it finds it way to me. More worryingly, it's finding its way to people a lot younger and it's genuinely quite dangerous. That, in addition to all the other toxic nonsense that's aimed squarely at disenfranchised young men, can be a terrible diet. YouTube is just one example, it's all over TikTok too. What the young are pushed into watching is one of the most profound digital challenges that we face because it isn't just him. " Meh! He's not even young, he's pushing middle aged and spouting nonsense!... Fortunately give it a few years, and he'll be kicked to the curb by the young crowd, cos he's knocking on for their dad's age now... | |||
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"He just makes me cringe, When he pops up on X or other places. He's deffo got delusions of grandeur. " He shows all the traits of a psychopath. I have no doubt he is a serial rapist. | |||
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"He just makes me cringe, When he pops up on X or other places. He's deffo got delusions of grandeur. He shows all the traits of a psychopath. I have no doubt he is a serial rapist." He's a creep! But he's certainly not the first, or probably last bloke to be a 'sporting star', and think that gives him the opportunity to take advantage of women sexually... Because... Fame | |||
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"I really don’t understand how the channel can give this evil bastard even more publicity. My 12 year old nephew thinks he’s a role model, I dread to think how he’s going to treat people when he’s older if it carries on. " Which is why you should watch it. | |||
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"Is this the one where the documentary maker is bullied into fighting, or another one?" That sounds like the one I watched. | |||
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"I think we need to understand his appeal, so I will watch it. More Tates are out there, it's important to know what young men see in him not just dismiss him. " This exactly. Why are specific people looking up to him and so easily malleable. I think its likely he's the infection not the wound | |||
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"Just an Incel with a bit of power. The guy has so many issues around gender and what it is to be a man. Certainly not someone I'd like to spend any time at all with. " Tbf the whole world has an issue with gender. Half believe there are 2. Half believe there are limitless. | |||
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"Just an Incel with a bit of power. The guy has so many issues around gender and what it is to be a man. Certainly not someone I'd like to spend any time at all with. Tbf the whole world has an issue with gender. Half believe there are 2. Half believe there are limitless. " We can make them all happy by saying there are two sexes and a variety of genders | |||
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"He's a hero... Possibly... but only for feckless, gullible half-wit incels. " Ha touched a nerve. Insecure? | |||
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"He's a hero... Possibly... but only for feckless, gullible half-wit incels. Ha touched a nerve. Insecure? " Yeah, I reckon he's extremely insecure... and rides on the insecurity of others. | |||
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"He's a hero... Possibly... but only for feckless, gullible half-wit incels. Ha touched a nerve. Insecure? Yeah, I reckon he's extremely insecure... and rides on the insecurity of others." Making that statement about Insecurity, while practically begging for sex on a swingers site, doesn't hold much value mate lol | |||
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"He's a hero... Possibly... but only for feckless, gullible half-wit incels. Ha touched a nerve. Insecure? Yeah, I reckon he's extremely insecure... and rides on the insecurity of others. Making that statement about Insecurity, while practically begging for sex on a swingers site, doesn't hold much value mate lol" Practically begging... who?.. where? | |||
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"He's a hero... " Why do you say that? | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. " Are you a fan? | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan?" Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. | |||
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"The slightly concerning thing in this thread is people writing him off as 'a tool' or 'spouting nonsense'. That's very much underestimating an intelligent and often very culturally savvy man. He isn't wrong about everything some of his words are actually good advice for young men and that's what makes him so dangerous, it allows the misogynistic, bigoted and hateful parts to get through. No extremist group has started with the radical bits, first they need your trust. I'm absolutely NOT a fan, please hear me at the back. I'm NOT defending him BUT I've watched an amount of his content because I wanted to understand his power. Disinfrancised young men are real and he has a way of communicating with that demographic, that should be studied and used by people who aren't morally reprehensible and put to good use. Someone said of Tate 'His diagnosis of the problem is often right but his prescription is often wrong' I don't find that a bad starting point. The question should be how did he become worth a documentary, what created the opportunity for him to prosper?" The rise in lack of good role models for young males. The bridge being crossed in young women easily overtaking males academically. More lone mum single parent families (less dads being involved). Boys feeling less valued in society... The list is endless!... The issue being that 'some' males then turn this into a 'female' problem 
And it then causes hate, a durection to point the finger of blame?... Its not them? It's society, it's the female element that's the problem... And then the hate starts | |||
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"A few things come to mind Not a fully formed grown up Lack of self awareness Frightened Attention seeking Entitled Confused Inferiority complex Twat" And what about Andrew Tate? | |||
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"A few things come to mind Not a fully formed grown up Lack of self awareness Frightened Attention seeking Entitled Confused Inferiority complex Twat" That's most single men on fab | |||
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"A few things come to mind Not a fully formed grown up Lack of self awareness Frightened Attention seeking Entitled Confused Inferiority complex Twat And what about Andrew Tate?" I don't think Andrew Tate is the problem? I think society is?... I think young men feel very disfrachised, I think they often have nowhere to go... I don't think this helps anyone | |||
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"A few things come to mind Not a fully formed grown up Lack of self awareness Frightened Attention seeking Entitled Confused Inferiority complex Twat And what about Andrew Tate? I don't think Andrew Tate is the problem? I think society is?... I think young men feel very disfrachised, I think they often have nowhere to go... I don't think this helps anyone " You're absolutely right. Andrew Tate is just a symbol for a declining society for younger generations not having an outlet for their concerns, particularly younger men. | |||
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"A few things come to mind Not a fully formed grown up Lack of self awareness Frightened Attention seeking Entitled Confused Inferiority complex Twat And what about Andrew Tate? I don't think Andrew Tate is the problem? I think society is?... I think young men feel very disfrachised, I think they often have nowhere to go... I don't think this helps anyone " You have a point. There are underlying issues not being addressed in society and AT is being exploitative. - still think he’s a twat though | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. " He's negated his own views and opinions when he started spouting his bile about victim blaming victims of sexual harassment, however your opinion is yours and nobody can discredit that but to what extent has he influenced your views? And in what way? | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. He's negated his own views and opinions when he started spouting his bile about victim blaming victims of sexual harassment, however your opinion is yours and nobody can discredit that but to what extent has he influenced your views? And in what way?" I don't think this public forum is an ideal place to discuss such a divisive figure, but If you must know, his discussion on the lack of father figures or father absences being pivotal in how young men see and treat women, is an important issue. | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. He's negated his own views and opinions when he started spouting his bile about victim blaming victims of sexual harassment, however your opinion is yours and nobody can discredit that but to what extent has he influenced your views? And in what way? I don't think this public forum is an ideal place to discuss such a divisive figure, but If you must know, his discussion on the lack of father figures or father absences being pivotal in how young men see and treat women, is an important issue." Andrew Tate is the discussion in the thread is it not? So of course it's the place to discuss Really? I disagree, the 'incel' movement is on the increase and while a lack of fatherhood figure in a child's life could be a factor it won't be the only factor that influences how young men see women.....that will be founded on a range of factors no doubt. But as I said your opinions are your own lol. As someone said above the thread is a good filter | |||
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" But as I said your opinions are your own lol" Crazy logic, I know. | |||
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"Meh! He's not even young, he's pushing middle aged and spouting nonsense!... Fortunately give it a few years, and he'll be kicked to the curb by the young crowd, cos he's knocking on for their dad's age now... " I'm afraid I think you could not be more wrong. Just look at Jordan Peterson and his lobster-loving fanboys. | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. He's negated his own views and opinions when he started spouting his bile about victim blaming victims of sexual harassment, however your opinion is yours and nobody can discredit that but to what extent has he influenced your views? And in what way? I don't think this public forum is an ideal place to discuss such a divisive figure, but If you must know, his discussion on the lack of father figures or father absences being pivotal in how young men see and treat women, is an important issue." I agree with this... I work with young males who literally have had zero, or negative male role models in their lives. It often leads to falling into negative traits, or gang culture because they're seeking 'something'... I definitely think there should be far more funding for clubs, activities for young men so they can find a positive influence | |||
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" But as I said your opinions are your own lol Crazy logic, I know." | |||
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"Any qualified psychiatrists on this thread?No I'm not a Tate fan/supporter,just wondering about the basis for some of the "diagnosis" on here." I don't know about on this thread, but there are a number on fab and a few active in the forums. | |||
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"Any qualified psychiatrists on this thread?No I'm not a Tate fan/supporter,just wondering about the basis for some of the "diagnosis" on here. I don't know about on this thread, but there are a number on fab and a few active in the forums." Do you really need to be qualified to have an opinion on a subject?.. I mean I'm not a gynecologist, but I've had a fanny all my life. So, I'd say I'm fairly familiar on the subject... | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. He's negated his own views and opinions when he started spouting his bile about victim blaming victims of sexual harassment, however your opinion is yours and nobody can discredit that but to what extent has he influenced your views? And in what way? I don't think this public forum is an ideal place to discuss such a divisive figure, but If you must know, his discussion on the lack of father figures or father absences being pivotal in how young men see and treat women, is an important issue. I agree with this... I work with young males who literally have had zero, or negative male role models in their lives. It often leads to falling into negative traits, or gang culture because they're seeking 'something'... I definitely think there should be far more funding for clubs, activities for young men so they can find a positive influence " Very strong points. Many people, especially those who aren't young men, fail to see the positive implications of a father figure in a young mans upbringing. The statistics are there to show just how many young adolescent offenders are from single parent households, predominantly single mothers. Tate touches on this about how young adolescents need that father figure. He's not wrong. It's only because it's coming out of his mouth that people find it a hard factual pill to swallow. | |||
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"Any qualified psychiatrists on this thread?No I'm not a Tate fan/supporter,just wondering about the basis for some of the "diagnosis" on here. I don't know about on this thread, but there are a number on fab and a few active in the forums. Do you really need to be qualified to have an opinion on a subject?.. I mean I'm not a gynecologist, but I've had a fanny all my life. So, I'd say I'm fairly familiar on the subject... "I don't know. I was just answering someone's question. | |||
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"An interesting watch. He has his fans and followers for a reason. Are you a fan? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's points of his I agree on, others I don't. He's negated his own views and opinions when he started spouting his bile about victim blaming victims of sexual harassment, however your opinion is yours and nobody can discredit that but to what extent has he influenced your views? And in what way? I don't think this public forum is an ideal place to discuss such a divisive figure, but If you must know, his discussion on the lack of father figures or father absences being pivotal in how young men see and treat women, is an important issue. I agree with this... I work with young males who literally have had zero, or negative male role models in their lives. It often leads to falling into negative traits, or gang culture because they're seeking 'something'... I definitely think there should be far more funding for clubs, activities for young men so they can find a positive influence Very strong points. Many people, especially those who aren't young men, fail to see the positive implications of a father figure in a young mans upbringing. The statistics are there to show just how many young adolescent offenders are from single parent households, predominantly single mothers. Tate touches on this about how young adolescents need that father figure. He's not wrong. It's only because it's coming out of his mouth that people find it a hard factual pill to swallow. " I'd still say someone like Marcus Rashford is a better role model for young men to aspire to | |||
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"'Activities and clubs for young men' are recruiting grounds for gangs, as are youth clubs are you kidding?... What do you better suggest? Young men just hanging about on street corners instead, with no direction?
Just as long as it isn't her street corner."And it's comments like the above posting that just make me feel very sad! And go full circle... Boxing clubs, fitness clubs, boys groups, young men's mental health groups... All! Make a massive difference to young men's lives. And it's the difference between that, or them being massively isolated. That all contribute to our society as a whole... And if it's not on offer?... That's exactly how we create new Andrew Tate's | |||
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"I wonder what young guys find so captivating about a world champion cage fighter who drives super cars and is worth about £10,000,000. They are aspiring to a successful man in their eyes. " He is'nt afraid to speak his mind & talks a lot of sense about men & what men should be not all his opinions i agree with but i do like his attitude | |||
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"I wonder what young guys find so captivating about a world champion cage fighter who drives super cars and is worth about £10,000,000. They are aspiring to a successful man in their eyes. " There's plenty of blokes with millions in the bank/supercars... He's a knobhead! Nobody is denying he's a tit!... He just shouldn't have such a public platform to spout his rubbish on... And the high profile men with good things to say should get bumped up the ladder... But that ain't gonna generate as many hits | |||
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"I wonder what young guys find so captivating about a world champion cage fighter who drives super cars and is worth about £10,000,000. They are aspiring to a successful man in their eyes. He is'nt afraid to speak his mind & talks a lot of sense about men & what men should be not all his opinions i agree with but i do like his attitude" You do you?... If you want to be arrested for suspicion of sexual offences, human trafficking.. Then yep, he's got a smashing attitude to follow as an example | |||
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"I wonder what young guys find so captivating about a world champion cage fighter who drives super cars and is worth about £10,000,000. They are aspiring to a successful man in their eyes. There's plenty of blokes with millions in the bank/supercars... He's a knobhead! Nobody is denying he's a tit!... He just shouldn't have such a public platform to spout his rubbish on... And the high profile men with good things to say should get bumped up the ladder... But that ain't gonna generate as many hits " Yes, a multi millionaire knobhead. | |||
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"I wonder what young guys find so captivating about a world champion cage fighter who drives super cars and is worth about £10,000,000. They are aspiring to a successful man in their eyes. He is'nt afraid to speak his mind & talks a lot of sense about men & what men should be not all his opinions i agree with but i do like his attitude You do you?... If you want to be arrested for suspicion of sexual offences, human trafficking.. Then yep, he's got a smashing attitude to follow as an example "I watched documentary. If correct he made his money by using females in a very controlling way . Being I will say in my opinion using threatening behaviour to them. To the extent they will for some of them say nothing against him . Even in a court of law. He even states the amount of money he makes doing that several times in documentary. He is always right and never wrong . Which shows his morale and outlook towards females in general ? | |||
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"This is a guy who says that real men don't go down on women. Any man on this site that can get behind that line of thinking and doesn't automatically dismiss the worth of a person who thinks that way doesn't deserve sex." Well... He's always paid for it? Either one way or another?
If anything he's a person to be pitied, although if he has dines the crimes alleged then not at all!... But it brings it all into stark context? A man with fame, a lot of self made wealth... Who still can't even get a woman interested with all the above? Due to his shitty personality?... And there are let's face it, some in life willing to overlook quite a lot for money?...
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I don't know alot about this Tate guy, but is any of the stuff he says as offensive as some of the replies I read in the "should benefit claimants get their money stopped if they drink & smoke" thread?"Likely much worse but he may agree with some of it. Once you see him speak about his dad, you see why he is the way he is but he has a big platform to share some abhorrent views. | |||
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I don't know alot about this Tate guy, but is any of the stuff he says as offensive as some of the replies I read in the "should benefit claimants get their money stopped if they drink & smoke" thread?"Well he was arrested for alleged sexual offences, sexual trafficking, and abuse toward women?... Sooo... If someone wants to spend their benefits on tabs or booze, that's their own look out? | |||
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No, I'm not alright with it. That level of prejudice may be your every day but it isn't mine. "No it's not my view. But neither is this "nothing that makes people more unfuckable than their chavvy, sheltered views from their backwards little villages in the middle of flood country." That's not debate or discussion. You're just ranting. | |||
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"The man has got a very warped view of women, wealth and the world!! Let’s hope his time in a Romanian Prison humbles him to the point he just fucking disappears!!!" While serving and with luck, a nice Romanian daddy figure will adopt him. | |||
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"I promise I didn’t mean to throw this grenade I’m just very suspicious of an openly misogynistic man converting to a religion where honour killing women is still acceptable on the basis of religion in many countries. Where women are expected to obey their husband over threat of violence. Cover their body head to toe because the men can’t control their urges. A reminder that 50% of uk Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal Maybe Islam practised in the right way isn’t an issue But there’s far too many practising it the wrong way for me to turn a blind eye and pretend it’s not an issue " So do at least half of all religious groups. 50% is low if you're talking about pious people. | |||
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"I'm watching and taking notes very keenly. Seems like a superb way to live your life... On a serious note, I think he's a genuine psychopath. If he's not already, he seems capable of being another Yorkshire ripper or something. How does society allow it lol" I watched last night and had watched the netflix documentary about Lewis Taylor (psychopath life coach) last week and every time he was on screen i couldn’t shake the feeling of how similar their characteristics were. | |||
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"Honestly there is nothing that makes people more unfuckable than their chavvy, sheltered views from their backwards little villages in the middle of flood country. The government has got to put money into their education because the level of stupidity is just embarrassing us at a national level. Like painfully ignorant and totally unaware of how unfuckable it makes them. Its unethical to fuck someone that stupid. Do you agree in free speech ? I do ,and everyone is entitled to their views ,and whether I agree with them or not ,I will fight to defend their right to air their views. Take that away and we are finished. Free speech doesn’t mean that we all just have to accept it. To be honest, if people fought misogyny as hard as they defended this guy’s right to say what he wants then there would be no issue For me, this has nothing to do with Tates views. It's about defending EVERYONES right to free speech, and that includes yours and mine. I DO NOT agree with Tate , but just like the rest of us ,he has the right to free speech ,and I will defend EVERONES right to that. Misogyny has nothing to do with Andrew Tate’s views? That’s an interesting take. Could you explain more? My point was that I don't agree with what Tate says or his views, BUT I agree he has a right to air his views, just like you ,me ,and everyone else does. If you take away freedom of speech because you don't like someone's views ,then we are in trouble. And again, I DO NOT agree with Tates views ,only his right to freedom of speech . Yes and people have the right to challenge those views. I agree ,I've already said that . But I don't agree with trying to silence people because we may not agree with their views. Challenge their views, yes ,but calling to silence them ,no . That's when we turn into a dictatorship . So, if you disagree with someone ACTIVELY making the world worse for your daughters and granddaughters, what do you propose that we do? Just listen because they have the right to do what they want? That doesn’t sit right with me. If a view is “challenged”, it will inevitably become silenced. So tell me what your plan is, because I’m genuinely interested. " For me this is bigger than Andrew Tate ,it's about free speech, which is something all of us should be allowed .Tates views are vile ,but that's not the point. Silencing him then leads to silencing someone else who has controversial views ,then before you know it ,you and me will be silenced for our views .It's a slippery slope ,that once started on will lead to no one being able to air their views . Again ,I agree with your views on Tate ,and I share them, but I do not want to see us heading into a place where no one can voice controversial views. | |||
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"My brother in law likes him but he also thinks Putin is great. Sums him up really. What did he think of Boris ? and now Rishi ? " The less i talk to him the better. My daughter had a fight with him about trans rights and my brother about crypto. | |||
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"Honestly there is nothing that makes people more unfuckable than their chavvy, sheltered views from their backwards little villages in the middle of flood country. The government has got to put money into their education because the level of stupidity is just embarrassing us at a national level. Like painfully ignorant and totally unaware of how unfuckable it makes them. Its unethical to fuck someone that stupid. Do you agree in free speech ? I do ,and everyone is entitled to their views ,and whether I agree with them or not ,I will fight to defend their right to air their views. Take that away and we are finished. Free speech is fine if you’re not encouraging men to rap6 women and keep them in serv1tude And I've already said, I think Tate is a bellend, BUT , freedom if speech is a cornerpin of our society ,and must be defended. If you disagree with someone's views , debate it with them, but to try and silence anyone goes against British values . I do not want to live in a country where EVERYONE isn't entitled to their views . I'm not defending Tate ,as i think he is a prick, but I am defending his right to free speech,just as I will defend your right to free speech. " Does a right to free speech include a right to hate speech? And should encouraging physical and sexual abuse of women which are crimes count as hate speech? | |||
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"Honestly there is nothing that makes people more unfuckable than their chavvy, sheltered views from their backwards little villages in the middle of flood country. The government has got to put money into their education because the level of stupidity is just embarrassing us at a national level. Like painfully ignorant and totally unaware of how unfuckable it makes them. Its unethical to fuck someone that stupid. Do you agree in free speech ? I do ,and everyone is entitled to their views ,and whether I agree with them or not ,I will fight to defend their right to air their views. Take that away and we are finished. Free speech doesn’t mean that we all just have to accept it. To be honest, if people fought misogyny as hard as they defended this guy’s right to say what he wants then there would be no issue For me, this has nothing to do with Tates views. It's about defending EVERYONES right to free speech, and that includes yours and mine. I DO NOT agree with Tate , but just like the rest of us ,he has the right to free speech ,and I will defend EVERONES right to that. Misogyny has nothing to do with Andrew Tate’s views? That’s an interesting take. Could you explain more? My point was that I don't agree with what Tate says or his views, BUT I agree he has a right to air his views, just like you ,me ,and everyone else does. If you take away freedom of speech because you don't like someone's views ,then we are in trouble. And again, I DO NOT agree with Tates views ,only his right to freedom of speech . Yes and people have the right to challenge those views. I agree ,I've already said that . But I don't agree with trying to silence people because we may not agree with their views. Challenge their views, yes ,but calling to silence them ,no . That's when we turn into a dictatorship . So, if you disagree with someone ACTIVELY making the world worse for your daughters and granddaughters, what do you propose that we do? Just listen because they have the right to do what they want? That doesn’t sit right with me. If a view is “challenged”, it will inevitably become silenced. So tell me what your plan is, because I’m genuinely interested. For me this is bigger than Andrew Tate ,it's about free speech, which is something all of us should be allowed .Tates views are vile ,but that's not the point. Silencing him then leads to silencing someone else who has controversial views ,then before you know it ,you and me will be silenced for our views .It's a slippery slope ,that once started on will lead to no one being able to air their views . Again ,I agree with your views on Tate ,and I share them, but I do not want to see us heading into a place where no one can voice controversial views. " Did you misunderstand the question, because that’s not what I asked. If in a debate all you can do is repeat your point, then I’d argue that you really don’t have one. I’d like to hear anything you have to back up the point you’re trying to make | |||
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"Honestly there is nothing that makes people more unfuckable than their chavvy, sheltered views from their backwards little villages in the middle of flood country. The government has got to put money into their education because the level of stupidity is just embarrassing us at a national level. Like painfully ignorant and totally unaware of how unfuckable it makes them. Its unethical to fuck someone that stupid. Do you agree in free speech ? I do ,and everyone is entitled to their views ,and whether I agree with them or not ,I will fight to defend their right to air their views. Take that away and we are finished. Free speech is fine if you’re not encouraging men to rap6 women and keep them in serv1tude And I've already said, I think Tate is a bellend, BUT , freedom if speech is a cornerpin of our society ,and must be defended. If you disagree with someone's views , debate it with them, but to try and silence anyone goes against British values . I do not want to live in a country where EVERYONE isn't entitled to their views . I'm not defending Tate ,as i think he is a prick, but I am defending his right to free speech,just as I will defend your right to free speech. Does a right to free speech include a right to hate speech? And should encouraging physical and sexual abuse of women which are crimes count as hate speech? " It's a tricky one. It is something that is a downside and a negative of free speech. At what point does free speech become okay, allow all of it or none of it? However silencing free speech should only ever apply to government involvement and police action. It's a thin line and delicate balance. If a private company or another person wants to silence somebody and their views then they should be allowed to. Twitter (fuck off am I calling it by its new name) and Facebook for example are free to set whichever views they want associated on their platforms. If I want to to take a swing at some prick spouting shit (about anything) to silence them, I am free to do that (and suffer the consequences of my own actions). Inciting (true) hate and violence is as good as intent to cause a crime to take place and should be stopped by police and government however. | |||
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"He is a cunt but let's be honest..no man on this thread will say anything good in case a woman on the forums sees it That says a lot more about you than anyone else." Why does it? It’s a great point to make We want to all pretend these views are either rare, or easy to spot in men But the truth is many guys hold these views and keep them secret because they know it’ll ruin their chances with women The forum is a perfect example of these. Many guys hide behind a mask because they don’t want to get filtered out And that’s important to know because they are the most dangerous, because women don’t know they hold these views until it’s too late. I don’t fear the wolf I see. I fear the wolf in a sheepskin that I can’t see | |||
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"He is a cunt but let's be honest..no man on this thread will say anything good in case a woman on the forums sees it That says a lot more about you than anyone else. Why does it? It’s a great point to make We want to all pretend these views are either rare, or easy to spot in men But the truth is many guys hold these views and keep them secret because they know it’ll ruin their chances with women The forum is a perfect example of these. Many guys hide behind a mask because they don’t want to get filtered out And that’s important to know because they are the most dangerous, because women don’t know they hold these views until it’s too late. I don’t fear the wolf I see. I fear the wolf in a sheepskin that I can’t see " I have to say I agree with this. It's not just men keeping certain things back about women. We see it in politics, environment, society in general. | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm " This is excellent advice | |||
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"The forums are a great place to realise that the fact civilisation has been maintained this long is nothing short of a miracle." Amen | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm " Which is interesting as my feed is literally full of Andrew tate, Owen Jones, Ben shapiro, and Ask Sarkar I'd be known as a Mysoginist, lefty with extreme right wing views and a vehement communist feminist | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm Which is interesting as my feed is literally full of Andrew tate, Owen Jones, Ben shapiro, and Ask Sarkar I'd be known as a Mysoginist, lefty with extreme right wing views and a vehement communist feminist " I only know 2 of those names Mines full of dogs, cats, food and those annoying audit guys that fly their drone over businesses TikTok algorithms would be such an insight into a person and I think women should be asking to scroll through guys TikToks It’s just TikTok right? What do you have to hide? Unless it’s endless Tate shit they’d think nothing of handing it over | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm Which is interesting as my feed is literally full of Andrew tate, Owen Jones, Ben shapiro, and Ask Sarkar I'd be known as a Mysoginist, lefty with extreme right wing views and a vehement communist feminist I only know 2 of those names Mines full of dogs, cats, food and those annoying audit guys that fly their drone over businesses TikTok algorithms would be such an insight into a person and I think women should be asking to scroll through guys TikToks It’s just TikTok right? What do you have to hide? Unless it’s endless Tate shit they’d think nothing of handing it over " If a woman assumed I had tik tok from the start, the date would already be over anyway | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm Which is interesting as my feed is literally full of Andrew tate, Owen Jones, Ben shapiro, and Ask Sarkar I'd be known as a Mysoginist, lefty with extreme right wing views and a vehement communist feminist I only know 2 of those names Mines full of dogs, cats, food and those annoying audit guys that fly their drone over businesses TikTok algorithms would be such an insight into a person and I think women should be asking to scroll through guys TikToks It’s just TikTok right? What do you have to hide? Unless it’s endless Tate shit they’d think nothing of handing it over " The problem with judging someone by something like this is you don't know why you are watching. All four of the people above I vehemently disagree with. If you checked my feed and saw them you could call me every political buzzword from left to right The problem is larger than tate in my opinion. He is a festering infection on top of a wound. Rather than lump everyone who listens to him a misogynist arsehole, I think we should question why they are so easily manipulated and seemingly what hole he is filling I'm their lives. | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm This is excellent advice " Is it? I don't use tik tok. Never have. The only things I've ever viewed on it are those others have sent me links to. I image a lot of dangerous men out there have not either. I'd also expect it then becomes the norm to state they don't use it and delete it from their phone during a first date. I agree it would tell lots about the person, although not with 100% accuracy. Some will watch due to morbid curiosity, not because they share such views. I watch lots of flat earth stuff in YouTube, I enjoy the entertainment of their misguided stupidity, but I'm under no hint of belief that the earth is flat. | |||
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"I made a suggestion once to a friend that on a first date she should ask to scroll through a guys TikTok feed for a few mins You’ll quickly find out what content they like to watch And I bet way more men that women expect will find plenty of Tate related content in their algorithm " I expect you are right, but interestingly I have never had any Tate related videos on my YouTube feed. | |||
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