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Mr Jones v The Post Office

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By *achel Smyth OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

I have just watched this series on TV … and also the ‘real story’ documentary that followed it.

This is genuinely a disgusting story that the Sub postmasters were subjected to by an organisation we have previously thought about as a national institution. Their treatment was outrageous and their struggle is still ongoing to get the recognition they are owed.

The CEO, et al, should be held legally accountable for this … and at the very least be stripped of her award. To say she is a lay priest also is unbelievable!!

What do you fellow Fabbers think??

R xx

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

They should face the most severe penalties.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think it shows how powerless we all are in the face of the 'authorities' and how little we're thought of.

As the man at the end said "hit them in the pocket it's the only thing they'll understand"

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By *achel Smyth OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

There is an online petition that seems to be snowballing, calling for the CEO to hand back her CBE! It has nearly 700,000 signatures now - and is growing!

I’d better not publish the link, I might get my hands slapped if I did … but it is a 38degrees petition which isn’t hard to search on online.

It should be noted, the chap who relentlessly pursued this campaign, was (quite rightly) offered an OBE a while ago, the least he deserves for 20 years unpaid hard work - but he declined it, whilst the CEO has her gong!

Maybe we can do something here!

R xx

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By *stwo2023Couple
over a year ago

Worcester

I saw online yesterday that there is now a criminal investigation launched.

I haven't watched this yet but probably will over the weekend

Evie

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By *stwo2023Couple
over a year ago

Worcester

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67899189.amp

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

One of the saddest parts those whom died before justice was done due to the failures

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By *acktopervMan
over a year ago

Stourport-On-Severn


"I saw online yesterday that there is now a criminal investigation launched.

I haven't watched this yet but probably will over the weekend

Evie"

It's now 2024, the Police investigation started in 2020. In 4 years they have interviewed 2 people (yes......2) and arrested no one. This so called Police investigation will take even longer than the non investigastion by the Post Office itself.

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

Washington


"I have just watched this series on TV … and also the ‘real story’ documentary that followed it.

This is genuinely a disgusting story that the Sub postmasters were subjected to by an organisation we have previously thought about as a national institution. Their treatment was outrageous and their struggle is still ongoing to get the recognition they are owed.

The CEO, et al, should be held legally accountable for this … and at the very least be stripped of her award. To say she is a lay priest also is unbelievable!!

What do you fellow Fabbers think??

R xx"
i have said for years that the CEO's of big companies should be held accountable for the crimes of their companies if found guilty should be sacked and lose their pensions and fined and face jail time maybe then the water companies for example would not dump sewage into the rivers and streams

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

15 new cases and possibly many more to follow so coming close to a thousand if not over

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By *achel Smyth OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough


"I have just watched this series on TV … and also the ‘real story’ documentary that followed it.

This is genuinely a disgusting story that the Sub postmasters were subjected to by an organisation we have previously thought about as a national institution. Their treatment was outrageous and their struggle is still ongoing to get the recognition they are owed.

The CEO, et al, should be held legally accountable for this … and at the very least be stripped of her award. To say she is a lay priest also is unbelievable!!

What do you fellow Fabbers think??

R xx i have said for years that the CEO's of big companies should be held accountable for the crimes of their companies if found guilty should be sacked and lose their pensions and fined and face jail time maybe then the water companies for example would not dump sewage into the rivers and streams "

From a H&S perspective, as we know, senior managers can be held personally culpable where H&S laws are broken - and go to prison! … possibly part of the reason we now live and work in an environment that is now very risk averse … but never the less more safe. Similar rules should be applied to senior managers in industry … though I suspect most of those employed in the city would then swap their pin stripe suits for suits with arrows on them!!

R x

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

One might think if one were cynical that the government are dragging it out..

Give it the same impetus that they did in shelling out excessively high amounts to some of their friends during the pandemic..

God knows the people wrongly convicted and financially hammered have suffered enough..

And prosecutions for those in the post office who knowingly send people to jail etc for a defective process they well knew about..

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By *redwilma666Couple
over a year ago

Kilbirnie

Persoally I now refuse to use the Post Office. On it's own it means very little, but, if everybody did the same?

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

33 people died and 4 apparently committed suicide all who'll never see justice

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Spent the afternoon watching the drama and could feel the anger rising within me. It’s one of the few times I felt it was a duty to watch it.

I truly hope the victims get proper compensation inc loss of earnings and those in charge get prosecuted.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Spent the afternoon watching the drama and could feel the anger rising within me. It’s one of the few times I felt it was a duty to watch it.

I truly hope the victims get proper compensation inc loss of earnings and those in charge get prosecuted. "

Worst is it's not the first time, apparently happened in the 1990s also judging by sunak

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

I agree,they should be punished.

It's scary to think an organisation can have the power to ruin people's lives, bankrupt them and then be able to cover it up.

That they let it drag on for so many years is unforgivable some. Poor souls died without ever seeing the truth come out.

I said when I watched it, I don't understand how some people are so blindly loyal to the organisation they work for, that they let things like this happen to others.

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit


"There is an online petition that seems to be snowballing, calling for the CEO to hand back her CBE! It has nearly 700,000 signatures now - and is growing!

I’d better not publish the link, I might get my hands slapped if I did … but it is a 38degrees petition which isn’t hard to search on online.

It should be noted, the chap who relentlessly pursued this campaign, was (quite rightly) offered an OBE a while ago, the least he deserves for 20 years unpaid hard work - but he declined it, whilst the CEO has her gong!

Maybe we can do something here!

R xx"

I've signed that

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By *panksspankedMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

The Post Office has the power to sanction them for gross misconduct and strip them of their pensions. Don't hold your breath.

You might want to note how much of our money they wasted protecting themselves rather than investing it in the service

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By *hisCharmingMan
over a year ago

South Manchester

What it shows is a reliance on computer data at the expense of people's lives, honesty & knowledge to do a job & be relied upon by the community as a figure of trust.

Sounds familiar somehow.

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By *moothshaftMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Who was Mr Jones?

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By *ags73Man
over a year ago

glasgow-ish

Strange how it takes a docudrama to shame a government into doing right thing.

(Not meaning to be political, just an observation from hearing radio news earlier)

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

While the Post Office is rightly in the firing line for the total clusterfuck they made during this entire shambles- Fujitsu seem to currently be able to hide in the shadows for not only delivering a sub standard system for the millions spent on it, but fucking up continuously with covering up the faults and also blatantly lying and blocking any progress towards the truth. They should also be dragged arse backwards through a world of shite over all this

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By *racknellboy1971Man
over a year ago

Bracknell

I binged it the other day and watched the doc this evening.

Unbelievable how they were treated. I know a few posties who were not surprised how they were treated

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"I saw online yesterday that there is now a criminal investigation launched.

I haven't watched this yet but probably will over the weekend

Evie

It's now 2024, the Police investigation started in 2020. In 4 years they have interviewed 2 people (yes......2) and arrested no one. This so called Police investigation will take even longer than the non investigastion by the Post Office itself."
because the police investigation has been put on hold whilst the current public enquiry takes place which is standard procedure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Excellent idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me too

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67908791

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61020075

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

I rather hope there are quite a few bastards in Fujitsu who are crapping them selves in their last few weeks of freedom for quite some while

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

3500 innocent people were affected by this what a corrupt system

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By *issilia AmoriWoman
over a year ago

St Albans/ North Welsh Borders


"I rather hope there are quite a few bastards in Fujitsu who are crapping them selves in their last few weeks of freedom for quite some while"

I believe it's winding down operations but yes, they absolutely need to be held accountable for their role in this mess

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

It's worth noting that several CEOs were involved in this, not just one. The others seem to be escaping scrutiny and are not the subjects of petitions etc. How's about the one in charge when the Horizon system was actually being implemented? Or the ones who oversaw the condemnation of some sub postmasters/mistresses originally? Some convictions date back to 1999!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have just watched this series on TV … and also the ‘real story’ documentary that followed it.

This is genuinely a disgusting story that the Sub postmasters were subjected to by an organisation we have previously thought about as a national institution. Their treatment was outrageous and their struggle is still ongoing to get the recognition they are owed.

The CEO, et al, should be held legally accountable for this … and at the very least be stripped of her award. To say she is a lay priest also is unbelievable!!

What do you fellow Fabbers think??

R xx"

The government is an evil entity

Full stop

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Absolutely horrendous! X

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"I have just watched this series on TV … and also the ‘real story’ documentary that followed it.

This is genuinely a disgusting story that the Sub postmasters were subjected to by an organisation we have previously thought about as a national institution. Their treatment was outrageous and their struggle is still ongoing to get the recognition they are owed.

The CEO, et al, should be held legally accountable for this … and at the very least be stripped of her award. To say she is a lay priest also is unbelievable!!

What do you fellow Fabbers think??

R xx

The government is an evil entity

Full stop "

While I don't dispute the view, this case has little to do with government and everything to do with the Post Office and Fujitsu.

Both covered up the software problem, the Post Office pursued it's own staff to prison, bankruptcy and suicide.

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