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"Deffo looking forward to the gym being rammed and not been able to get on anything for about the next 6 weeks!!! Seriously tho hats off to anyone whose new year resolution is to get fitter "I have similar sentiments! The December "couldn't give a fuck" gym space has been lovely! People too busy going to the Christmas markets or whatever, left plenty of kit available. Jan and Feb are usually dreadful. Oh well. It'll all be back to normal by April ish. Good luck, fitness fans! | |||
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"I have lapsed over Christmas, got to get back into going regularly and push myself" Joys of having a gym at work lol. Not that I’m a huge gym person as I don’t really know what to do. I will be getting back into my cardio. Onky ran 6 events last year which is super low for me. So increase cardio and lose some xmas lodge and I wanna learn what to do for core, not for 6 pack but just to help my running | |||
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"I have lapsed over Christmas, got to get back into going regularly and push myself Joys of having a gym at work lol. Not that I’m a huge gym person as I don’t really know what to do. I will be getting back into my cardio. Onky ran 6 events last year which is super low for me. So increase cardio and lose some xmas lodge and I wanna learn what to do for core, not for 6 pack but just to help my running " Mine is right next door to my work. No excuse For core strength Pilates is a good start | |||
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"I have lapsed over Christmas, got to get back into going regularly and push myself Joys of having a gym at work lol. Not that I’m a huge gym person as I don’t really know what to do. I will be getting back into my cardio. Onky ran 6 events last year which is super low for me. So increase cardio and lose some xmas lodge and I wanna learn what to do for core, not for 6 pack but just to help my running Mine is right next door to my work. No excuse For core strength Pilates is a good start" I’ve heard this. May have to start doing a few beginner ones on you tube or something see how I get on | |||
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"Don't remember last January being extra busy, but we'll see... The ones who annoy is, are those who sit at a machine playing on their phones for longer than we could do a full set (60 reps)" Hell yes this for sure | |||
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"Don't remember last January being extra busy, but we'll see... The ones who annoy is, are those who sit at a machine playing on their phones for longer than we could do a full set (60 reps) Hell yes this for sure " One of my gym pet peeves! | |||
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well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie "I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie "
Exactly. Get back to McDonalds fatties and leave the gym to us! | |||
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"Gym innit You and your 36 pack can do one ya mad freak! "Excuseeee me Glam Tits 
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"Gym innit You and your 36 pack can do one ya mad freak!
Excuseeee me Glam Tits
I'll meet ya in the changing rooms like last time "I'll bring the strap on again baby. Try not to leave teeth marks on the lavvie door like last time. | |||
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Excuseeee me Glam Tits
I'll meet ya in the changing rooms like last time
I'll bring the strap on again baby. Try not to leave teeth marks on the lavvie door like last time. "Fuck sake. That was meant to be a secret. Had to get my third set of veneers after that  | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. " Thankfully I started December.  | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie
I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all."I just go in, headphones on and zone them out. The 'know it alls' are not just in the Gym I had to block one through Fab because everytime I posted about my workout or what I was doing he would message me with some kind of criticism. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie
I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all.
I just go in, headphones on and zone them out.
The 'know it alls' are not just in the Gym I had to block one through Fab because everytime I posted about my workout or what I was doing he would message me with some kind of criticism. "Same headphones on and zone out and just get on with it. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie
I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all.
I just go in, headphones on and zone them out.
The 'know it alls' are not just in the Gym I had to block one through Fab because everytime I posted about my workout or what I was doing he would message me with some kind of criticism. "Oh but don't you dare be seen on your phone for any reason. You need to stare menacingly into the distance in between sets so people know your really mean business! | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. " Maybe they are googling what to do next? Maybe they can't afford personal trainer ? Maybe they have the intention but no support ? Maybe if regulars were more welcoming and didn't hope for them to fuck off soon they would just stick with it ? Why people use public gyms if they have so little patience for anyone wanting to do the same? Or not up to their standards? They are taking a chance or trying something out. It's ok if it doesn't work. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie
I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all.
I just go in, headphones on and zone them out.
The 'know it alls' are not just in the Gym I had to block one through Fab because everytime I posted about my workout or what I was doing he would message me with some kind of criticism.
Oh but don't you dare be seen on your phone for any reason. You need to stare menacingly into the distance in between sets so people know your really mean business!"I don’t get the hate for phones in the gym. If anyone lifts really heavy they’ll be resting for a lot longer than a minute in between sets and need something to fill that time. | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. Maybe they are googling what to do next? Maybe they can't afford personal trainer ? Maybe they have the intention but no support ? Maybe if regulars were more welcoming and didn't hope for them to fuck off soon they would just stick with it ? Why people use public gyms if they have so little patience for anyone wanting to do the same? Or not up to their standards? They are taking a chance or trying something out. It's ok if it doesn't work. " There is plenty people join as beginners throughout the year do fine and stick with it and everyone is supportive, I’m sure if the new years crowd stuck around long enough they would find it fine too. There a clear difference between someone starting up taking it serious vs the new years crowd who are gone in a few weeks yet everyone wants to make it out like all gym rats hate new users which clearly isn’t the case. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie
I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all.
I just go in, headphones on and zone them out.
The 'know it alls' are not just in the Gym I had to block one through Fab because everytime I posted about my workout or what I was doing he would message me with some kind of criticism.
Oh but don't you dare be seen on your phone for any reason. You need to stare menacingly into the distance in between sets so people know your really mean business!
I don’t get the hate for phones in the gym. If anyone lifts really heavy they’ll be resting for a lot longer than a minute in between sets and need something to fill that time."Exactly, my deadlifts, squats, bench presses are all strength based and I probably rest for 3-4mins between sets. Imo if you're only resting for a minute on every exercise, you're probably not pushing yourself as hard as you can be. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
No doubt some of you will be the same ones that tell people to stop being lazy fat gits and (as papa swipe says) get to the fucking gym.
Honestly hate toxic gym culture so much. So glad I found a nice, inclusive space to workout in.
Evie
I agree, the only thing worse than people who don't know what they're doing at the gym are the people who think they know it all.
I just go in, headphones on and zone them out.
The 'know it alls' are not just in the Gym I had to block one through Fab because everytime I posted about my workout or what I was doing he would message me with some kind of criticism.
Oh but don't you dare be seen on your phone for any reason. You need to stare menacingly into the distance in between sets so people know your really mean business!
I don’t get the hate for phones in the gym. If anyone lifts really heavy they’ll be resting for a lot longer than a minute in between sets and need something to fill that time.
Exactly, my deadlifts, squats, bench presses are all strength based and I probably rest for 3-4mins between sets. Imo if you're only resting for a minute on every exercise, you're probably not pushing yourself as hard as you can be."Exactly. If I’m trying out my 1RM I can have 5 minutes rest beforehand. | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. Maybe they are googling what to do next? Maybe they can't afford personal trainer ? Maybe they have the intention but no support ? Maybe if regulars were more welcoming and didn't hope for them to fuck off soon they would just stick with it ? Why people use public gyms if they have so little patience for anyone wanting to do the same? Or not up to their standards? They are taking a chance or trying something out. It's ok if it doesn't work. There is plenty people join as beginners throughout the year do fine and stick with it and everyone is supportive, I’m sure if the new years crowd stuck around long enough they would find it fine too. There a clear difference between someone starting up taking it serious vs the new years crowd who are gone in a few weeks yet everyone wants to make it out like all gym rats hate new users which clearly isn’t the case. " I'll take it as official warning that I should never join in January unless I want to meet the wrath of assumptions. Any other month I'd be fine and taken seriously right ?  I don't think all gym "rats" hate new users. I picked your reply because earlier on this thread you said you can't wait for them to fuck off already. | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. Maybe they are googling what to do next? Maybe they can't afford personal trainer ? Maybe they have the intention but no support ? Maybe if regulars were more welcoming and didn't hope for them to fuck off soon they would just stick with it ? Why people use public gyms if they have so little patience for anyone wanting to do the same? Or not up to their standards? They are taking a chance or trying something out. It's ok if it doesn't work. There is plenty people join as beginners throughout the year do fine and stick with it and everyone is supportive, I’m sure if the new years crowd stuck around long enough they would find it fine too. There a clear difference between someone starting up taking it serious vs the new years crowd who are gone in a few weeks yet everyone wants to make it out like all gym rats hate new users which clearly isn’t the case. I'll take it as official warning that I should never join in January unless I want to meet the wrath of assumptions. Any other month I'd be fine and taken seriously right ? I don't think all gym "rats" hate new users. I picked your reply because earlier on this thread you said you can't wait for them to fuck off already."Truthfully yes statistically 80% of the new years gym goers have quit by February in reality it’s probably even higher like I said I’ve never seen a single one stick it out those who join at any other point in the year have a much higher chance of sticking with it. | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. " S lit if people start with the intention of sticking to it but are put off due the attitude of 'regulars' moaning about them using the equipment or not doing it right and being taken the piss out of. I'd eager more quit due to this than because of poor intent to stick at it. | |||
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"Oh doesn't this thread make the gym seem like such an inviting and friendly place to be well done all.
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. Maybe they are googling what to do next? Maybe they can't afford personal trainer ? Maybe they have the intention but no support ? Maybe if regulars were more welcoming and didn't hope for them to fuck off soon they would just stick with it ? Why people use public gyms if they have so little patience for anyone wanting to do the same? Or not up to their standards? They are taking a chance or trying something out. It's ok if it doesn't work. There is plenty people join as beginners throughout the year do fine and stick with it and everyone is supportive, I’m sure if the new years crowd stuck around long enough they would find it fine too. There a clear difference between someone starting up taking it serious vs the new years crowd who are gone in a few weeks yet everyone wants to make it out like all gym rats hate new users which clearly isn’t the case. I'll take it as official warning that I should never join in January unless I want to meet the wrath of assumptions. Any other month I'd be fine and taken seriously right ? I don't think all gym "rats" hate new users. I picked your reply because earlier on this thread you said you can't wait for them to fuck off already.
Truthfully yes statistically 80% of the new years gym goers have quit by February in reality it’s probably even higher like I said I’ve never seen a single one stick it out those who join at any other point in the year have a much higher chance of sticking with it. "Stats might be truthful. Not many would last in a hostile atmosphere. No surprise there. | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. S lit if people start with the intention of sticking to it but are put off due the attitude of 'regulars' moaning about them using the equipment or not doing it right and being taken the piss out of. I'd eager more quit due to this than because of poor intent to stick at it. " Yes that’s definitely the reason over 80% of the new years crowd quit in a month, nothing to do with their own motivation at all… | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. S lit if people start with the intention of sticking to it but are put off due the attitude of 'regulars' moaning about them using the equipment or not doing it right and being taken the piss out of. I'd eager more quit due to this than because of poor intent to stick at it. Yes that’s definitely the reason over 80% of the new years crowd quit in a month, nothing to do with their own motivation at all…" Did I say all of them??? | |||
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"Gyms normally are very supportive inclusive atmosphere and are supportive of anyone starting up seriously with the intention of sticking with it That being said most of us have seen every year the new years crowd start up and all be gone in a few weeks. I can’t recall a single person that started in new year ever staying at the gym. If more of them took it serious didn’t sit texting on machines and stuck it out long term they would probably find it a lot more welcoming. Maybe they are googling what to do next? Maybe they can't afford personal trainer ? Maybe they have the intention but no support ? Maybe if regulars were more welcoming and didn't hope for them to fuck off soon they would just stick with it ? Why people use public gyms if they have so little patience for anyone wanting to do the same? Or not up to their standards? They are taking a chance or trying something out. It's ok if it doesn't work. There is plenty people join as beginners throughout the year do fine and stick with it and everyone is supportive, I’m sure if the new years crowd stuck around long enough they would find it fine too. There a clear difference between someone starting up taking it serious vs the new years crowd who are gone in a few weeks yet everyone wants to make it out like all gym rats hate new users which clearly isn’t the case. I'll take it as official warning that I should never join in January unless I want to meet the wrath of assumptions. Any other month I'd be fine and taken seriously right ? I don't think all gym "rats" hate new users. I picked your reply because earlier on this thread you said you can't wait for them to fuck off already.
Truthfully yes statistically 80% of the new years gym goers have quit by February in reality it’s probably even higher like I said I’ve never seen a single one stick it out those who join at any other point in the year have a much higher chance of sticking with it.
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"Maybe I shouldn't have read this thread lol. As someone who overthinks and has anxiety, I already felt out of place in a gym and wanted to make myself small now I will also worry that I've pissing people off being there lol." Thankfully, I personally find those above in the minority
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"Maybe I shouldn't have read this thread lol. As someone who overthinks and has anxiety, I already felt out of place in a gym and wanted to make myself small now I will also worry that I've pissing people off being there lol." My thoughts exactly. What an unpleasant unwelcoming bunch. Moaning because people who pay the same as them dare to visit the gym. Perhaps if they were a but more friendly and helpful to less confident gym goers they could feed their needs by being nice to new people. | |||
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"Lots of people seem to be talking about hostility at gyms but I’ve not seen that. Certainly not at our gym. They can be intimidating places if you are new but we’ve always found people to be nice and helpful. Nobody drives anyone from the gym. The gym regulars are just venting because it makes things a bit more difficult to train for a month or two. They’re not actually going up to people and telling them they shouldn’t be there. Think of it like people complaining about queues in shops the week before Christmas. " Finally someone talks some sense h | |||
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"I've been a gym dodger most of my life, but after some stern words from my docs and the threat of lifelong medication for one of my issues, I'm giving it a go. Went of my induction on 5th December and have been going 3/4 times a week. I'm enjoying it, even if I can't run for 20 minutes and have to change the weights to a lighter setting. I'm being me and having a go. Hoping its the start of a change. I've actually booked in for a couple of gym uses at 6.30am next week just as I get back to work to go in, do a bit and then hopefully be on my way before the real rush on the moterways. Here's to a new me! Even got dumbbells, and resistance bands and treated myself to an exercise bike so determined to do a bit! " LOVE this | |||
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"I've been a gym dodger most of my life, but after some stern words from my docs and the threat of lifelong medication for one of my issues, I'm giving it a go. Went of my induction on 5th December and have been going 3/4 times a week. I'm enjoying it, even if I can't run for 20 minutes and have to change the weights to a lighter setting. I'm being me and having a go. Hoping its the start of a change. I've actually booked in for a couple of gym uses at 6.30am next week just as I get back to work to go in, do a bit and then hopefully be on my way before the real rush on the moterways. Here's to a new me! Even got dumbbells, and resistance bands and treated myself to an exercise bike so determined to do a bit! LOVE this "Thank you! It's a big change but after the aches and pains of the first two weeks, that has settled down, so my body is getting more used to it! | |||
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"Lots of people seem to be talking about hostility at gyms but I’ve not seen that. Certainly not at our gym. They can be intimidating places if you are new but we’ve always found people to be nice and helpful. Nobody drives anyone from the gym. The gym regulars are just venting because it makes things a bit more difficult to train for a month or two. They’re not actually going up to people and telling them they shouldn’t be there. Think of it like people complaining about queues in shops the week before Christmas. " It's great you've never experienced it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I myself have been side eyed, pointed at, heard hushed giggles at my expense etc even videoed on occasion when I went to the local public gym. Each time I signed up, whether in January or not, I always signed up with the intention of staying at it but it was never a welcoming experience. However that doesn't seem to matter, I'm limped into the 80% of time wasters apparently. Luckily I have found an awesome gym and I'm hitting some great milestones for me in terms of strength and consistency (4 years now although lockdown stole some of it). Everyone there is motivating and supportive. Evie | |||
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"Lots of people seem to be talking about hostility at gyms but I’ve not seen that. Certainly not at our gym. They can be intimidating places if you are new but we’ve always found people to be nice and helpful. Nobody drives anyone from the gym. The gym regulars are just venting because it makes things a bit more difficult to train for a month or two. They’re not actually going up to people and telling them they shouldn’t be there. Think of it like people complaining about queues in shops the week before Christmas. It's great you've never experienced it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I myself have been side eyed, pointed at, heard hushed giggles at my expense etc even videoed on occasion when I went to the local public gym. Each time I signed up, whether in January or not, I always signed up with the intention of staying at it but it was never a welcoming experience. However that doesn't seem to matter, I'm limped into the 80% of time wasters apparently. Luckily I have found an awesome gym and I'm hitting some great milestones for me in terms of strength and consistency (4 years now although lockdown stole some of it). Everyone there is motivating and supportive. Evie " I've been videoed and pointed at too. Apparently wheelchair users lifting weights, whilst wearing a gym bra thingy and with flabby bits, is a novelty. My PT fends off anything irritating, but it's next to never that anyone says anything. There's some very helpful and supportive folks in our gym, actually. It's just a basic chain place, nowt fancy. | |||
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"Go to the gym at 5am and it’s usually empty. Top tip for anyone complaining about not getting on the stuff they want to. I can't winch my disabled ass out that early
I have to go after work, when it's the busiest at most times of year "I work shifts so it’s ideal for me. I tried going after work and I just can’t do it. It’s too busy, I’m too tired and I lose an hour with my kids. | |||
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"The steal a catch phrase you need to do better. Maybe those people who disappear after 6 weeks wouldn't disappear if people weren't so judgemental, more welcoming and more helpful. I go regularly but am still intimidated by the free weights and man gym section. Yes I know there are loads of women in there now, there wasn't in my day when I first started going and I still call it that. You've got to say the man bit in a gravely trying to be hard voice. " And follow it with "bro'" while chewing gum... | |||
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"The steal a catch phrase you need to do better. Maybe those people who disappear after 6 weeks wouldn't disappear if people weren't so judgemental, more welcoming and more helpful. I go regularly but am still intimidated by the free weights and man gym section. Yes I know there are loads of women in there now, there wasn't in my day when I first started going and I still call it that. You've got to say the man bit in a gravely trying to be hard voice. " I go in the man gym section and have a giggle at the people staring. They stop soon enough. There do seem to be more phone posers in that section, unfortunately. And super setters, all using eleventy thousand bits of kit | |||
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