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By *lliebambi OP   Woman
over a year ago

wigan

What's your fab "icks" list? Things in a message or on a profile thats an Immediate turn off?

Really interested in hearing the boys list especially!

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By *esafinadOHolyNightMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"What's your fab "icks" list? Things in a message or on a profile thats an Immediate turn off?

Really interested in hearing the boys list especially!"

It's really just crudeness that puts me off and makes the 'ick' list. Though, certain status updates and things that tell me we're obviously not compatible steer me away from a woman too.

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By *lliebambi OP   Woman
over a year ago

wigan

Oooo yes!! For example The ones that start "some people need to....." lol

Ick!!

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

Their profile is just out and out aggression, if that’s how they write their profile, I’d dread to think what they’re really like.

Another red flag for me is couples with zero verifications, pictures but it’s mostly the bloke or they message with “meet now” and it’s just the bloke with a wank fantasy.

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Anyone who calls themselves or is looking for an "alpha" Don't they know we use the Roman alphabet now?

Also, if their entire profile is a list of requirements. Nothing else.

LvM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Members who’s profile pic is of their genitalia.

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln


"Members who’s profile pic is of their genitalia. "

Only on Wednesdays

LvM

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By *miGazMan
over a year ago

Luton

Drugs.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

The word “ick” unless used by someone with a gorgeous boobies and then I let it slide lol

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By *a1970Man
over a year ago

East cork

Photos of dicks over toilet bowl, and slut written on a woman's ass..... I don't know why... It just does.

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

Demands and entitlement especially when there’s the hint of anger with it.

I respect preferences etc but even if I meet the requirements if I feel that the person is being over zealous with the

DO NOT DO THIS, SEND ME A PIC OF YOUR ARSE WITH A PINEAPPLE IN IT, FAB IF YOU WANT TO BUY ME A YACHT AND BRING ME SOME STUFF TO STUFF UP MY NOSE, kind of stuff, then I go back to my sudoku.

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By *miGazMan
over a year ago

Luton

Having vagina only pictures on the profile.

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman
over a year ago

Next Door

Hi - these sort of messages.

Single men profile where they have action pics of another female.

Couples profiles and they dont have pictures of the male and want a mff.

Close up pictures of their bits.

No public pictures and message without attaching any pictures

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Anyone with a daft username..

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

- the couple where the female is always busy! … yeah right!

- 1 bad public and no private pics, but want a friends request!

- no pic profile, 1 line, 3 word email.

- TV profile when it’s bloody obvious it’s not!

I think I have more red flags than a Chinese communist party convention…. I’ve learned! Xx

R xx

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Having vagina only pictures on the profile. "

In all the years I’ve been on here. I have never ever seen that. Have you seen many?

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit


"Hi - these sort of messages.

Single men profile where they have action pics of another female.

Couples profiles and they dont have pictures of the male and want a mff.

Close up pictures of their bits.

No public pictures and message without attaching any pictures

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Pretty much nailed it

Plus anyone calling me hun/baby etc

Status updates asking to be drained or needing to cum.

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By *isge BeathaWoman
over a year ago

Here, There and Everywhere

A scroll bar of their dick at various angles or in various orifices!

Messages titled "slut"

Messy/dirty backgrounds in pictures

Socks on in their dick/nude pics!

I dare say I have a list a mile long but it's too early and my brain hasn't had enough caffeine!

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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago

London

Being blocked is an ick.

Eww I wasn't wanking over your pics anyway calm down!

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
over a year ago

kent

When the profile text demonstrates a sense of entitlement or negativity.

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
over a year ago

kent


"Being blocked is an ick.

Eww I wasn't wanking over your pics anyway calm down! "

Hahaha

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands


"Having vagina only pictures on the profile.

In all the years I’ve been on here. I have never ever seen that. Have you seen many?"

Not enough I say

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By *miGazMan
over a year ago

Luton


"Having vagina only pictures on the profile.

In all the years I’ve been on here. I have never ever seen that. Have you seen many?

Not enough I say"

Yes. When I was actively looking I saw too many. To the point where I did not even want to engage in conversation with such person

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By *zeroMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Overly long profiles, critical status updates and begging for fabs

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"What's your fab "icks" list? Things in a message or on a profile thats an Immediate turn off?

Really interested in hearing the boys list especially!"

The word ick is up there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When women state that us men MUST have a photo or a photo sent to them in the first message, but they have a blank profile! Away and piss in the wind

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Consistency is very important so any hint on a profile that the collar doesn't match the cuffs would be a red flag.

Pics, bio veries and forum persona must match.

In messages,any conversation from someone I've never met or spoken to before who turns the chat to sex is a good reason to stop talking.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

There are quite a few things. I won't list them but they mostly stem from an innate disrespect that the profile holder/s aren't even aware of

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By *Cups32Woman
over a year ago

Colne

I've had from a few guys lately that they say they live relatively local but their mobile location is 200 miles away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reading people’s superiority complex is my biggest warning of what type of person they are.

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By *hunky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich

"Whites only"

"Black guys only"

"No Asians"

"We are not racist, but..."

Some puts it in a nice context or "it's just our/my preference".

I personally block them and stand up against it in any way I can.

Usually I end up being the bad guy.

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By *isge BeathaWoman
over a year ago

Here, There and Everywhere

Kink/body shaming too. I've no time for anyone that feels the need to do that.

Catfishing...... uploading pictures that are years old is also a big no/no!!!

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By *hunky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich

Also, the ones asking for a face photo in first message, but they don't have a single photo.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

An overbearing sense of self importance and arrogance.

Oh and a giant red flag that's a red flag

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By *ngels and DevilsCouple
over a year ago

The South West

People who write statuses moaning about how fabs is a waste of time and they’ll be deleting their account soon. Are they hoping for a pity fuck?

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By *hunky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"People who write statuses moaning about how fabs is a waste of time and they’ll be deleting their account soon. Are they hoping for a pity fuck? "

***

I think it's 90% venting and 10% hope for a pity fuck.

Percentages depend on how hot/entitled they feel about themself.

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
over a year ago

London

'Alpha'

Violent language around sex.

Sending a message saying what they want to do to you with no self awareness or consideration for what the person recieving the message may want.

'meet now' messages.

Messages that read like they were written in crayon.

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By *eedy1Man
over a year ago

larne

Usually find their age requirements are too limited for proper meetings This from a mature still able to satisfy in most things but not allowed

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By *rispyDuckMan
over a year ago

Chinese Takeaway near you


"What's your fab "icks" list? Things in a message or on a profile thats an Immediate turn off?

Really interested in hearing the boys list especially!"

When they describe themselves as a ‘brat’ or have unrealistic expectations they themselves can’t live upto lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look at me posts

This may sound harsh but people who people bash or “why can’t I”

I find it tiring. Just my opinions

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"An overbearing sense of self importance and arrogance.

Oh and a giant red flag that's a red flag "

Yes. This . 100% !!( The first bit )

And they are amongst us

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By *GermanInLondonMan
over a year ago

London

Mentioning drugs

Bareback

Anything right wing/racist or otherwise on the complete opposite spectrum of my world view.

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By *ddkkk91Man
over a year ago

fife


"A scroll bar of their dick at various angles or in various orifices!

Messages titled "slut"

Messy/dirty backgrounds in pictures

Socks on in their dick/nude pics!

I dare say I have a list a mile long but it's too early and my brain hasn't had enough caffeine! "

What about underwear on top of their dicks

Joking aside... when they put safe sex about 4 times but gallery you can clearly see that is not the case

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By *isge BeathaWoman
over a year ago

Here, There and Everywhere


"People who write statuses moaning about how fabs is a waste of time and they’ll be deleting their account soon. Are they hoping for a pity fuck? "

Also, the ones that announce they're leaving as Fab isn't for them (as they're not getting anywhere) then return weeks later! Have they had a sudden personality transplant!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

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By *isge BeathaWoman
over a year ago

Here, There and Everywhere


"A scroll bar of their dick at various angles or in various orifices!

Messages titled "slut"

Messy/dirty backgrounds in pictures

Socks on in their dick/nude pics!

I dare say I have a list a mile long but it's too early and my brain hasn't had enough caffeine!

What about underwear on top of their dicks

Joking aside... when they put safe sex about 4 times but gallery you can clearly see that is not the case"

Or Red Bull/Gillette cans/remote controls next to their dicks!!!

Yeah, bareback is one of the biggest red flags, especially if they claim safe sex!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?"

I can perfectly well tolerate someone and not want to be friends with them or fuck them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Misogynistic women

Misogynistic men

The rejected that accuse the rejectors of being superior, mean, entitled, self absorbed, stuck up, up their own arse and so on because they cant accept the rejection, or are blocked while not admitting to what they did to earn the block in the first place.

People that believe people like that.

People that approach with a 'you wouldn't look at me anyway, I don't stand a chance' but thought I'd try.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?…

"

Exactly.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

The "War & Peace" profile which terminates with 6 lines about the Sydney Uni crap.

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By *ddkkk91Man
over a year ago

fife


"A scroll bar of their dick at various angles or in various orifices!

Messages titled "slut"

Messy/dirty backgrounds in pictures

Socks on in their dick/nude pics!

I dare say I have a list a mile long but it's too early and my brain hasn't had enough caffeine!

What about underwear on top of their dicks

Joking aside... when they put safe sex about 4 times but gallery you can clearly see that is not the case

Or Red Bull/Gillette cans/remote controls next to their dicks!!!

Yeah, bareback is one of the biggest red flags, especially if they claim safe sex! "

defo no redbull can near me

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By *anted by NightMan
over a year ago

Shangri-La

Aggressive profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

- Entitlement/Aggression.

- Long list of demands (they may as well shag their own fantasy)

- Want to see a face picture but don't want to show you theirs.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

#1 at the moment is anyone using the word ick.

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By *ink vixenCouple
over a year ago

Medway

Whiny status updates and boundary pushers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

"

I think that very much depends on what it is exactly you end up having to tolerate.

It's all well and good if people can be adults to one another and accept differences and stick to the 'you do you' sentence.

But I won't tolerate people that tear others to pieces and misrepresent while acting perfect themselves or downright lying.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The "War & Peace" profile which terminates with 6 lines about the Sydney Uni crap."

Sorry

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By *isge BeathaWoman
over a year ago

Here, There and Everywhere


"The "War & Peace" profile which terminates with 6 lines about the Sydney Uni crap."

Sorry, not sorry!!! But no Sydney University drivel!!

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?"

I don't tolerate anything that would prevent me from having a conversation with someone.

They are entitled to their preferences as am I so if someone contacts me and their profile doesn't add up such as pics or veries bearing no relation to what they have written in their bio I won't tolerate that and end the conversation right there.

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By *ltmeeMan
over a year ago

Everywhere & Nowhere Baby

This has been an interesting read and I don't think I've hit any of these flags. I may be wrong.

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By *tephanie63Woman
over a year ago

BRIDGWATER


""Whites only"

"Black guys only"

"No Asians"

"We are not racist, but..."

Some puts it in a nice context or "it's just our/my preference".

I personally block them and stand up against it in any way I can.

Usually I end up being the bad guy.

"

What is it you are " Standing up against in any way I can"?

It's not racist to not want to have sex with other ethnic groups.. by your logic it is racist to say BBC only, because that is anti white...

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"#1 at the moment is anyone using the word ick."

Also eww, grr and meh.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I like to get my biggest red flags out of the way. Here's a bunch of stuff on my profile - if you don't like it, we're not compatible.

"We're not compatible" is not the same as saying that there's something wrong with you, it's just saying that this thing isn't going anywhere (and probably you're better off blocking me).

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

People who always speak in the third person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

I think that very much depends on what it is exactly you end up having to tolerate.

It's all well and good if people can be adults to one another and accept differences and stick to the 'you do you' sentence.

But I won't tolerate people that tear others to pieces and misrepresent while acting perfect themselves or downright lying.

I haven't met anyone here who hasn't been honest either. "

You've been very fortunate.

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By *he Silver FuxMan
over a year ago

Uttoxeter

My Oh FFS! Red Flag is those pictures of the wife showing off the crotch of her underwear revealing disgusting fluids and stains.

Listen love, it’s not sexy, it’s a yeast infection

Fucking. Gross.

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By *fdTMan
over a year ago

Bradford

The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol "

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

I think that very much depends on what it is exactly you end up having to tolerate.

It's all well and good if people can be adults to one another and accept differences and stick to the 'you do you' sentence.

But I won't tolerate people that tear others to pieces and misrepresent while acting perfect themselves or downright lying.

I haven't met anyone here who hasn't been honest either.

You've been very fortunate."

typo.

I haven't met an honest one yet I meant to say.

last person I met had a meet persona and a forum persona. The forum persona was the honest one and I was fed the bullshit admitted to on the forums ... in other words, said one thing, did another.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

I think that very much depends on what it is exactly you end up having to tolerate.

It's all well and good if people can be adults to one another and accept differences and stick to the 'you do you' sentence.

But I won't tolerate people that tear others to pieces and misrepresent while acting perfect themselves or downright lying.

I haven't met anyone here who hasn't been honest either.

You've been very fortunate.

typo.

I haven't met an honest one yet I meant to say.

last person I met had a meet persona and a forum persona. The forum persona was the honest one and I was fed the bullshit admitted to on the forums ... in other words, said one thing, did another. "

I'm sorry you haven't been so fortunate, then.

I wonder to what extent we all have personas inevitably. We come across differently in text than in person, deliberately or otherwise.

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By *lder budweiserMan
over a year ago

Stirlingshire

Any mention of 'snow'

Looking for a Sugar Daddy

Bragging and/or humblebragging statuses

The Sydney Uni pish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Profiles with gape pictures absolutely vile, plain nasty

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By *fdTMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable."

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

I think that very much depends on what it is exactly you end up having to tolerate.

It's all well and good if people can be adults to one another and accept differences and stick to the 'you do you' sentence.

But I won't tolerate people that tear others to pieces and misrepresent while acting perfect themselves or downright lying.

I haven't met anyone here who hasn't been honest either.

You've been very fortunate.

typo.

I haven't met an honest one yet I meant to say.

last person I met had a meet persona and a forum persona. The forum persona was the honest one and I was fed the bullshit admitted to on the forums ... in other words, said one thing, did another.

I'm sorry you haven't been so fortunate, then.

I wonder to what extent we all have personas inevitably. We come across differently in text than in person, deliberately or otherwise."

no need to apologise for the lack of decency, integrity and authenticity of others.

unfortunately, the last one has put me off women for life!

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"People who always speak in the third person"

..and those who use constructions like 'Grabs popcorn'.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt "

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

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By *weet and SpiceCouple
over a year ago

Around the Midlands

The entire gallery being nothing but their dick!

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By *mazonEuk5Man
over a year ago

spalding


"People who write statuses moaning about how fabs is a waste of time and they’ll be deleting their account soon. Are they hoping for a pity fuck? "
does that work tho .

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By *fdTMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me."

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere else

I’m disappointed if they haven’t got red flag or I don’t get the ick. I’m here for the ick.

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By *eordieJeansCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

“Mmmm”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"“Mmmm” "

Newcastle supporters.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Crudeness and sending me dick pics which i ask them in my profile not to send.

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By *onnie 90Woman
over a year ago

Leeds


"What's your fab "icks" list? Things in a message or on a profile thats an Immediate turn off?

Really interested in hearing the boys list especially!"

The words "alpha", "adonis" and "stallion" make me go straight to the block button.

Lazy profiles over a year old stillwith "will fill in later" as their description.

Crass, lazy messages in text speak (my favourite is still "U FUK NOW". No question mark so it's basically a demand).

Fake images. I always use the site's reverse image check tool. It's amazing how many profile pics are taken from Russian porn sites lol.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x"

I mean yeah, that's respecting someone's wishes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Misery.

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull


"What's your fab "icks" list? Things in a message or on a profile thats an Immediate turn off?

Really interested in hearing the boys list especially!"

crudeness, the How are you, just that how are you lol. I would like to meet and 'insert porn movie script' more pictures of other people, makes us wonder about what else they will show

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By *eordieJeansCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"“Mmmm”

Newcastle supporters. "

Bryan May lookalikes with a strap on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"“Mmmm”

Newcastle supporters.

Bryan May lookalikes with a strap on."

Don't know you're missing.

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By *eordieJeansCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"“Mmmm”

Newcastle supporters.

Bryan May lookalikes with a strap on.

Don't know you're missing."

Probably lube knowing you.

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By *eronicaExplorerWoman
over a year ago

London


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?"

What a surprise to read here the guy I blocked due to his insulting messages, demanding tolerance. The audacity!

Well, people can change, I hope so.

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By *eliusMan
over a year ago

Henlow

“professional couple’ .. didn’t even know that was job!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hypocrisy = red flag.

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By *fdTMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x

I mean yeah, that's respecting someone's wishes "

do you have and no nos for a guy if he approached you

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x

I mean yeah, that's respecting someone's wishes do you have and no nos for a guy if he approached you "

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who message off the back of forum posts and ignore when you ask to keep replies in the thread then start slagging other users off

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"“professional couple’ .. didn’t even know that was job!"

You kidding?

One of the oldest professions!

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By *fdTMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x

I mean yeah, that's respecting someone's wishes do you have and no nos for a guy if he approached you

Yes."

Would i fail the criteria

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x

I mean yeah, that's respecting someone's wishes do you have and no nos for a guy if he approached you

Yes.

Would i fail the criteria "

My filters are as high as they go, so you wouldn't be able to message me no matter what I thought of you.

I prefer not to have these kinds of personal discussions in public.

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By *ddkkk91Man
over a year ago

fife


"People who message off the back of forum posts and ignore when you ask to keep replies in the thread then start slagging other users off "

Sorry

Or men messaging you when you express fully that you are straight and get offended.

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By *fdTMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"The demanding type, you have to be this and that, if you don't do this there is no chance, don't waste my time if you can't do 74 backflips while making a brew.

I just wonder how many chances of a good relationship could of started if it wasn't cos there was one hoop out of 10 that you couldn't jump through.

But us men don't give up lol

I think about how many people are in miserable relationships because they were told that they should "just give him/ her a chance" over something that was non-negotiable.

I get that but I don't mean the serious stuff like something personal, it minor things, like if your not into something sexually.

I think if your on this site to begin with your making a change in yourself, so the more your engaging in this world the more you'll adapt

Maybe trust that people know what they want? Not respecting that is a pretty big red flag to me.

I always respect people's choice, im just saying after reading a profile and I'm going down the list, ticking all the boxes then it says must be 5'8 or above and I'm 5'7, I won't bother just because it says you must be 5'8, maybe its just me x

I mean yeah, that's respecting someone's wishes do you have and no nos for a guy if he approached you

Yes.

Would i fail the criteria

My filters are as high as they go, so you wouldn't be able to message me no matter what I thought of you.

I prefer not to have these kinds of personal discussions in public."

Sorry I apologise for that, I didn't think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

What a surprise to read here the guy I blocked due to his insulting messages, demanding tolerance. The audacity!

Well, people can change, I hope so. "

we all have our bad days and even if I were to say sorry, it wouldn't change anything now would it?

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

I don't really get put off by "icks". At best I'd probably raise an eyebrow and then bypass the profile.

However, from experience a small proportion of women (but not all) tend to be quite uninspiring and prosaic when it comes to qualitative messaging - quite surprising when it's the woman who has instigated first contact and, confusingly, her profile clearly dictates that 'chatting extensively and articulately' is a MUST before doing anything else.

Those types of people often fall foul of their own caveats.

I also find it amusing when they offer their number (or Telegram ID) - ostensibly to chat away from Fab - but can only manage monosyllabic responses or take days to muster a single sentence. I like to play along with these types of games. I'm perverse in that way..until the novelty wears off.

Ladies, if you cannot handle a simple conversation then it's unlikely you'll possess the dexterity to handle my cock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who always speak in the third person"

*Woody reaches over the desk to offer a Hi5

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

When a profile is basically an advert for their Onlyfans.

It will be worded in a way to pass the rules, but every instinct is saying they're not here for meets, or if they are, then it's for you to help them create content that they'll be paid for

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By *oberto7Man
over a year ago

Greenock

Looking for age 21-99 ! Has anyone on here fucked a 99year old

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

‘BBCs only’

‘Looking for first BBC’

Non Black People policing whether a person qualifies as Black enough for their interest

‘Fabswingers is now a publicly traded entity…’

‘Sydney university you do not have permission…’

- all things I’ve seen on profiles that I’ve rolled my eyes at. On a really bad day I’ve blocked profiles for some of this stuff

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"‘BBCs only’

‘Looking for first BBC’

Non Black People policing whether a person qualifies as Black enough for their interest

‘Fabswingers is now a publicly traded entity…’

‘Sydney university you do not have permission…’

- all things I’ve seen on profiles that I’ve rolled my eyes at. On a really bad day I’ve blocked profiles for some of this stuff"

But my legal disclaimer is extra speshul

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"‘BBCs only’

‘Looking for first BBC’

Non Black People policing whether a person qualifies as Black enough for their interest

‘Fabswingers is now a publicly traded entity…’

‘Sydney university you do not have permission…’

- all things I’ve seen on profiles that I’ve rolled my eyes at. On a really bad day I’ve blocked profiles for some of this stuff

But my legal disclaimer is extra speshul"

NSW is ok. Just Sydney that isn’t

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By *eronicaExplorerWoman
over a year ago

London


"I read this thread and think to myself that no one is perfect.... even the authors of these entries.

None of us can be everything another person likes or wants to be, we haven't got to be critical about others either.

what happened to tolerance of others?

What a surprise to read here the guy I blocked due to his insulting messages, demanding tolerance. The audacity!

Well, people can change, I hope so.

we all have our bad days and even if I were to say sorry, it wouldn't change anything now would it?"

If you honestly would say sorry I will accept the apology

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too many pics of their privates like 1 or 2 is fine

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By *inkygentkentMan
over a year ago

Maidstone

Any profile where there is clearly a lack of a sense of humour. Doesn't exactly bode well for a fun meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

whatever it was I did to offend, I apologize. I cannot even remember what for, as often I get blocked just for sending an icebreaker. I have no recollection of what it was so what what it's worth.... sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't really get put off by "icks". At best I'd probably raise an eyebrow and then bypass the profile.

However, from experience a small proportion of women (but not all) tend to be quite uninspiring and prosaic when it comes to qualitative messaging - quite surprising when it's the woman who has instigated first contact and, confusingly, her profile clearly dictates that 'chatting extensively and articulately' is a MUST before doing anything else.

Those types of people often fall foul of their own caveats.

I also find it amusing when they offer their number (or Telegram ID) - ostensibly to chat away from Fab - but can only manage monosyllabic responses or take days to muster a single sentence. I like to play along with these types of games. I'm perverse in that way..until the novelty wears off.

Ladies, if you cannot handle a simple conversation then it's unlikely you'll possess the dexterity to handle my cock. "

how eloquently put. I concur. (but not with your cock)

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By *neplusserMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Those silly Sydney uni disclaimers

Anyone demanding face pics on first message when their own profile is just a silhouette

Overly ranty/entitled profiles/statuses

Bareback only swingers

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I used to have so many that had red flags it's a wonder I ever met. But it worked in my favour as I never had a no show, a cancellation, no bad meet and no abuse

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By *he Silver FuxMan
over a year ago

Uttoxeter


"Looking for age 21-99 ! Has anyone on here fucked a 99year old"

The Government has, lowest value pension in the civilised world

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Obvious cranks. We don't share consensus reality, so why would I want to share a bed / sofa / kitchen counter?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Obvious cranks. We don't share consensus reality, so why would I want to share a bed / sofa / kitchen counter? "

That's one I don't dare put on my profile, lest I get messages like "of course I love the globalists and I had ten million vaccines. I love me some daddy pharma"

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Obvious cranks. We don't share consensus reality, so why would I want to share a bed / sofa / kitchen counter?

That's one I don't dare put on my profile, lest I get messages like "of course I love the globalists and I had ten million vaccines. I love me some daddy pharma""

I'm quick on the draw with pre-emptive blocks these days. Life's too short to waste it on people who think The X-Files was a documentary.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Obvious cranks. We don't share consensus reality, so why would I want to share a bed / sofa / kitchen counter?

That's one I don't dare put on my profile, lest I get messages like "of course I love the globalists and I had ten million vaccines. I love me some daddy pharma"

I'm quick on the draw with pre-emptive blocks these days. Life's too short to waste it on people who think The X-Files was a documentary. "

Indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obvious cranks. We don't share consensus reality, so why would I want to share a bed / sofa / kitchen counter?

That's one I don't dare put on my profile, lest I get messages like "of course I love the globalists and I had ten million vaccines. I love me some daddy pharma"

I'm quick on the draw with pre-emptive blocks these days. Life's too short to waste it on people who think The X-Files was a documentary. "

You mean it wasn't real... I'm devastated.

About as devistated as when Amber Heard revealed Edward Scissorhands wasn't a real person!!!

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By *ehindHerEyesCouple
over a year ago

SomewhereOnlyWeKnow

Messages where they describe in detail what exactly they are going to do or use/force me to do.....

Tinder

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Hypocrisy = red flag. "
is that, the disposable heroes of hypocrisy?

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair


"Messages where they describe in detail what exactly they are going to do or use/force me to do.....

Tinder "

I shall take you firmly by the hand and frog-march you to the nearest Specsavers™ and force upon you the next cheapest pair of Shirley Bassey tortoiseshell frames with varifocals, for you to finally sêê what you've been missing, young Missy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Messages where they describe in detail what exactly they are going to do or use/force me to do.....

Tinder "

Oh, I'd like more of these.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Single woman profile but it’s says husband ‘sometimes’ log into account and reads messages. No thanks. Just have a couples profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hypocrisy = red flag. is that, the disposable heroes of hypocrisy? "

Like ‘Avangers assemble!?!?”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Single woman profile but it’s says husband ‘sometimes’ log into account and reads messages. No thanks. Just have a couples profile "

What about those couples who seem to always post when the husband is only free to meet… every night.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Have a huge load an need somewhere to dump it .

Heavy cummer or Dom...ick, ick and double ick!

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"Looking for age 21-99 ! Has anyone on here fucked a 99year old"

I will let you all know in 21 years' time.

It will probably happen as i should be worth quite a bit to gold diggers by then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"An overbearing sense of self importance and arrogance.

Oh and a giant red flag that's a red flag

Yes. This . 100% !!( The first bit )

And they are amongst us "

Yes, I hate the head up the arse, my shits better than yours profile.

I can understand trying to out people your unlikely to be incompatible with but there are ways of doing it.

Also the ones where there are no or one picture, or pictures of just the genitalia or explaining they'll fill in the profile at a later date and you can see they've been on there for a few months and it's not been updated.

But I guess each to their own

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By *eto_AtreidesMan
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

Sydney University bullshit - they’re clearly gullible. Saved to hotlist for pyramid scheme marketing.

420 friendly/snow - you do you, but not around me. Ever.

No black/white/Asian/whatever - over fetishisation and overt racism are both equally off putting.

Im a princess - no you’re not, and my salary is for partners and the cats. If I wanted to pay for it, it would be cheaper elsewhere and I’d get exactly what I wanted. Knock it off. There are huge numbers who will treat you with respect without all that crap, and for those that don’t, you have a block button.

Onlyfans and the ilk - this one’s only a semi (your puns go here), as whilst I have “assisted” and had huge fun doing so with some, there have been far far more simply looking for another subscriber. You do know this place is on the internet, and that has tits for free, right?

All vagina picture profiles - sweetly, look where you are. It doesn’t matter what your body shape or age, I guarantee someone wants to fuck you ragged. In fact I guarantee enough people want to fuck you ragged you can take your pick. Insecurity is a burden hopefully a few good meets can alleviate. And I get it’s far more daunting - if not dangerous - for women than men to show their faces. But let us see something of who you are rather than simply mashed labia.

Bareback only - I learnt about STIs in school. So did you. Grow up. (Exception to the rigorous normally-couples who are absolutely adamant about both showing and seeing test results within 24/48 hours, but it’s still an act of trust regarding contraception and what/who they’ve done in that period even then. Extra “for fucks sake, really?” to the lass who wanted to bareback, promised a test and sent it on the Monday, then put up photos of her fucking two other guys the Wednesday and Thursday, and was surprised when I asked her to forward me a screenshot of their tests with the date in view before she was getting any part of me inside her on the Friday. Unsurprisingly, we didn’t fuck - at my insistence).

And admittedly this is a pet one, but can’t accommodate, will travel, but only two streets over as doesn’t drive and too cheap for public transport. Mate, knock on your neighbours door, you’ll have more luck than wasting time here (this one brought to you by 5 miles is too far complaints - if you don’t want to dance, fine, if you’re socially awkward and don’t want to dance, don’t reply or block or whatever! It’s fine, but please don’t be an idiot flapping about though)

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By *oopy Lou 666Woman
over a year ago

Heaven.....………. I came down from Heaven

When someone has only joined a week ago and you reject them for reading you wrong AND you get all the abuse name calling etc going because of correcting him

bigstiffone....

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By *oopy Lou 666Woman
over a year ago

Heaven.....………. I came down from Heaven


"When someone has only joined a week ago and you reject them for reading you wrong AND you get all the abuse name calling etc going because of correcting him

bigstiffone.... "

And has no profile to read only pro picture

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By *eto_AtreidesMan
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

Profile normally blank, or all shots of his cock….

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By *oopy Lou 666Woman
over a year ago

Heaven.....………. I came down from Heaven


"‘BBCs only’

‘Looking for first BBC’

Non Black People policing whether a person qualifies as Black enough for their interest

‘Fabswingers is now a publicly traded entity…’

‘Sydney university you do not have permission…’

ha ha BBC`s............white`s rub some dirt on it make it BBC

- all things I’ve seen on profiles that I’ve rolled my eyes at. On a really bad day I’ve blocked profiles for some of this stuff"

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By *tagNvixen69Couple
over a year ago

belfast

#No profile pic

#No new verifications but have one from 4yrs ago

#The " I'll fill this in later" status

#friends photo but no public photo

#1 pet hate is the absolute rubbish ppl put on their status about the legality of institutions stealing photos etc

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By *histle do nicelyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow South

..... professional couple..... Yawn..

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By *eto_AtreidesMan
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

People wot txt lyk dis bbe

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By *eto_AtreidesMan
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

I mean, should we call you an ambulance? Are you having a stroke?

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Anyone that sends me a message, not starting with a capital letter and ending without a full stop. History tells me nothing will come of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People with passive aggressive status.

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By *winging NutsMan
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Finally getting responses off women, and they avoid all your questions!!!! Grrr (lol)

(Probably too busy responding to their other 400 messages that day!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lOl , hahah!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So true tbh ,,

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By *winging NutsMan
over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"Anyone that sends me a message, not starting with a capital letter and ending without a full stop. History tells me nothing will come of it. "

nOW THAT MAde me laugh,;;!?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

There's some quite precious stuff here... Look first in the mirror

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By *erek trotterMan
over a year ago

Peckham

Fisting yuk disgusting

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By *umblecutMan
over a year ago

Finchley


"A scroll bar of their dick at various angles or in various orifices!

"

Umm...I'll be right back!

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

Oooooo

I'm horny skype wank anyone...... I mean wheres your standards?

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By *LiamMan
over a year ago

Midlands

The profiles full of rules and regulations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oooooo

I'm horny skype wank anyone...... I mean wheres your standards? "

Are these FredFlags?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When they have stated in their profile for people to read and to send a particular line to prove it, yet when they send the first message and it's clear they haven't read our profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reading all these it's pretty clear that nothings clear

Had a couple of "you didn't read my profile" responses when I clearly did, and either you've not updated it or you imagined you had..

No pics insisting on pics, straight to Kik or asking for phone numbers feels scamworthy to me and I'm always wary of farmers looking to dox personal details from desperate guys. I don't need a fuck that badly. I think sometimes people who are more worried about discretion don't realise this is also how that can come across.

High and mighty, demanding is fine, just walk on by gives me all the impression I need we wouldn't have anything in common anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Reading all these it's pretty clear that nothings clear

….

"

It’s clear that a lot of people won’t ever speak to me.

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By *lliebambi OP   Woman
over a year ago

wigan

Yesss!!! A little mystery goes a long way!lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yesss!!! A little mystery goes a long way!lol"

Personally I enjoy the random roulette wheel of "will they like me for who I am" rather than ticking boxes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who simply don't read the profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who don’t read informative threads properly.

So what’s this one about?

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By *lliebambi OP   Woman
over a year ago

wigan


"I’m disappointed if they haven’t got red flag or I don’t get the ick. I’m here for the ick."

Ha ha ha!!! Love this!

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow


"People who message off the back of forum posts and ignore when you ask to keep replies in the thread then start slagging other users off "

Lol

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester


"Oooooo

I'm horny skype wank anyone...... I mean wheres your standards?

Are these FredFlags? "

if the standard is red...... Of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BBC lovers, I hope they still pay their licence fee

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By *usbandandktCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Single guy One liner messages such as “h r u guys?” Or “up for fun/meet?”, generally seems to come as a shock to some that these don’t get the wife needing to wring her knickers out due to excitement and desire to converse with them,

Profile wise it would of course have to be the “fill in later” in the profile, they joined a year ago or similar and just couldn’t be arsed expecting again the women to be beating down their door

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By *elshcouple18Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Couples with public face pics, but aren't photo verified..

Single ladies who put fisting as an interest..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Contradictory statements/actions.

T.

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By *ackdaw52Man
over a year ago

Chesterfield

'Will fill in later.' Zero effort.

A looong list of dos and don'ts/demands. These people do not want to meet.

Medical close ups. Especially when there's several.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

'Friends describe me as bubbly'

Almost as bad as women who describe themselves as 'bubbly'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The profiles that are all one way traffic.

Demanding and needy yet they have no pics but require a face pic first before they will even entertain you or you will be blocked.

They do make me chuckle. Swipe left

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

CAPITAL LETTERS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People that …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People that …"

.. are desperate for ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People that …

.. are desperate for .."

.. post 175!

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