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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay " Oh crumbs!  | |||
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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay " I’m not gay. I fancy a few trans woman, but I’m attracted to feminine. I got my head around it ages ago. | |||
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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay I’m not gay. I fancy a few trans woman, but I’m attracted to feminine. I got my head around it ages ago. " He doth protest too much  | |||
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"I think to be gay or straight you have to be into only absolutes on whichever side. I'd say it's somewhere on the vast spectrum in between "good point ... now i wouldnt kiss a man as a man but would a trans /CD some of them are hot he he | |||
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"Also I suppose it depends on their genitalia. Which is such a weird thing to have to know before you can decide if you're attracted to someone. Are you attracted to their femininity despite the fact they have a cock? Or is it a fully transitioned woman, in which case they're just a woman?" yea i guess a pretty person is a pretty person | |||
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"I do find this a little amusing. The gay aesthetic is to hyper masculinity. I’ve never met a gay guy who is attracted to feminine attributes whether personality or appearance. " another very good point | |||
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"I do find this a little amusing. The gay aesthetic is to hyper masculinity. I’ve never met a gay guy who is attracted to feminine attributes whether personality or appearance. " Spot on. | |||
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"I do find this a little amusing. The gay aesthetic is to hyper masculinity. I’ve never met a gay guy who is attracted to feminine attributes whether personality or appearance. Spot on. "I'm bi...like both equally i guess plus guys  | |||
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"To be homest i dont feel gay in the slightest but i fancy a t girl so much. We chat to each other for hours at a time every day and meet up regularly but i know this may come across as bonkers but i class her as a genuine woman. I might get slated for my coment but im being very honest." I find this very refreshing to read x | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay " Agree :- )  | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- ) "Given a transwoman who looks like a woman essentially only has a cock as the difference it isnt remotely gay. We arent attracted to genitals we are attracted to bodies and faces. Transwomen who have masculine faces and hips etc... are likely to be less attractive than a womanly body. The cock isnt relevant at all | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- )
Given a transwoman who looks like a woman essentially only has a cock as the difference it isnt remotely gay. We arent attracted to genitals we are attracted to bodies and faces. Transwomen who have masculine faces and hips etc... are likely to be less attractive than a womanly body. The cock isnt relevant at all"Each to their own i guess x | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- ) "And there we have it!!! | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- )
Given a transwoman who looks like a woman essentially only has a cock as the difference it isnt remotely gay. We arent attracted to genitals we are attracted to bodies and faces. Transwomen who have masculine faces and hips etc... are likely to be less attractive than a womanly body. The cock isnt relevant at all"If a trans woman has a cock they are a man, any sexual interaction that happens means you are playing with a man so Bi or Gay | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- )
And there we have it!!! "Simplest | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. " A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. | |||
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"A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- )
Given a transwoman who looks like a woman essentially only has a cock as the difference it isnt remotely gay. We arent attracted to genitals we are attracted to bodies and faces. Transwomen who have masculine faces and hips etc... are likely to be less attractive than a womanly body. The cock isnt relevant at all
If a trans woman has a cock they are a man, any sexual interaction that happens means you are playing with a man so Bi or Gay " | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. " | |||
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"A study from the University of California on this very subject. https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2023/03/08/study-examines-straight-men-and-their-sexual-attraction-transgender-women A trans is a guy end of, I wouldn’t say you are gay if you like the look of their face but if you want to have sex with them then it makes you Bi or gay Agree :- ) ive took some good points from this convo ... and i dont think it is bi or gay if your bi u fancy men as men and same with gay ....
Given a transwoman who looks like a woman essentially only has a cock as the difference it isnt remotely gay. We arent attracted to genitals we are attracted to bodies and faces. Transwomen who have masculine faces and hips etc... are likely to be less attractive than a womanly body. The cock isnt relevant at all
If a trans woman has a cock they are a man, any sexual interaction that happens means you are playing with a man so Bi or Gay " | |||
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"Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. " I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female | |||
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"Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " Agree | |||
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"Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " | |||
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"A very uneducated opinion. I know from experience tho that ppl with these opinions won't listen to more neuenced and complicated science that disagrees with their basic science understanding. Old saying...baffle everyone with bullshit.. Congratulations x So im going to leave this now. It's good to see that the majority of people in here though understand more than what the daily mail and the aun says. Bye everyone. Have fun Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " | |||
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"A very uneducated opinion. I know from experience tho that ppl with these opinions won't listen to more neuenced and complicated science that disagrees with their basic science understanding. So im going to leave this now. It's good to see that the majority of people in here though understand more than what the daily mail and the aun says. Bye everyone. Have fun Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " Old saying...baffle everyone with bullshit.. Congratulations x | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. " 100% agree! X | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. 100% agree! X" Yup..pretty simple n proud to say i don't care xx | |||
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"More bi or bi curious I would have thought " Put a pic in profile just for you x | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. 100% agree! X" | |||
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"I am not against trans at all but I find it very offensive when a trans woman says they are female, I am female, I was born female, you can change what you want but you will always be trans and never ever be a female. " Yup | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. " I don’t agree with this. Be what you want but hung up on genitalia? Paranoia? I’m attracted to men and I’m attracted to women. I have no attraction at all to a woman with a cock. A lot of people are and that’s great but it’s nothing to do with hang ups or paranoia. | |||
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"A very uneducated opinion. I know from experience tho that ppl with these opinions won't listen to more neuenced and complicated science that disagrees with their basic science understanding. So im going to leave this now. It's good to see that the majority of people in here though understand more than what the daily mail and the aun says. Bye everyone. Have fun Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. I don’t agree with this. Be what you want but hung up on genitalia? Paranoia? I’m attracted to men and I’m attracted to women. I have no attraction at all to a woman with a cock. A lot of people are and that’s great but it’s nothing to do with hang ups or paranoia. " Simple you would think...? | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. I don’t agree with this. Be what you want but hung up on genitalia? Paranoia? I’m attracted to men and I’m attracted to women. I have no attraction at all to a woman with a cock. A lot of people are and that’s great but it’s nothing to do with hang ups or paranoia. Simple you would think...?" It is to me. I wouldn’t usually comment as I don’t give a toss what people want to be. It doesn’t affect me or bother me one bit but that comment isn’t true. | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. I don’t agree with this. Be what you want but hung up on genitalia? Paranoia? I’m attracted to men and I’m attracted to women. I have no attraction at all to a woman with a cock. A lot of people are and that’s great but it’s nothing to do with hang ups or paranoia. Simple you would think...? It is to me. I wouldn’t usually comment as I don’t give a toss what people want to be. It doesn’t affect me or bother me one bit but that comment isn’t true. " Agree | |||
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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay " No. It makes you someone that fancies trans women. If you actually start shagging them regularly then it might put you somewhere on a spectrum towards gay depending on a whole host of things. Safest to just say that you're trans attracted, and bi-curious or bi. That'll cover most bases. | |||
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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay No. It makes you someone that fancies trans women. If you actually start shagging them regularly then it might put you somewhere on a spectrum towards gay depending on a whole host of things. Safest to just say that you're trans attracted, and bi-curious or bi. That'll cover most bases." Wish you were not stuck so far up your own ass... Nice people are here and you just steam in and disrespect everyone .. Nao bem.. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? " I tried.. | |||
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"Is it gay to use a glory hole and find a man is sucking you off?" Lucky i guess as he knows what he's doing | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? " Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X | |||
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"I am not uneducated at all, I know what sex organs males have and I know what sex organs females have. You can identify as anything you wish but fact is fact, you are a transitioning trans woman, when you have had bottom surgery you will be a trans woman but you will never be a female. A very uneducated opinion. I know from experience tho that ppl with these opinions won't listen to more neuenced and complicated science that disagrees with their basic science understanding. So im going to leave this now. It's good to see that the majority of people in here though understand more than what the daily mail and the aun says. Bye everyone. Have fun Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " Wow just wow!  | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X" I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman. "Well we all different spose! X | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Simple Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman. "Cis is a slur. Agreed. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
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"To be homest i dont feel gay in the slightest but i fancy a t girl so much. We chat to each other for hours at a time every day and meet up regularly but i know this may come across as bonkers but i class her as a genuine woman. I might get slated for my coment but im being very honest." I also class tv’s/t girls as real women and treat them like real women as they deserve | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur. "The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people. I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur. "This is also what CIS stands for…. Overview. Clinically isolated syndrome (CIS) is a possible diagnosis for patients who experience an episode that may represent the onset of multiple sclerosis | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term"Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory. "I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female” | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female” "It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time. "Why should it change? The word female for females born as a female and living as a female has been used for hundreds of years ( along with male for males born as a male and living as a male) why should we now have to put the term “cis” in front of it? Just because transgender people want to adopt a term? Why can’t trans people be happy with the term they have, a trans? | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Why should it change? The word female for females born as a female and living as a female has been used for hundreds of years ( along with male for males born as a male and living as a male) why should we now have to put the term “cis” in front of it? Just because transgender people want to adopt a term? Why can’t trans people be happy with the term they have, a trans? "You reckon we should also go back to Love Thy Neighbour style language, too? Why can't people kf colour just be happy with the words they already had to describe them, right? | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Why should it change? The word female for females born as a female and living as a female has been used for hundreds of years ( along with male for males born as a male and living as a male) why should we now have to put the term “cis” in front of it? Just because transgender people want to adopt a term? Why can’t trans people be happy with the term they have, a trans? "I mean use of the prefix cis. Likely to disappear over time. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time. "Just because a minority want that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to abide by it. Identify as what you want but it doesn’t mean the rest have to go along with it. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Why should it change? The word female for females born as a female and living as a female has been used for hundreds of years ( along with male for males born as a male and living as a male) why should we now have to put the term “cis” in front of it? Just because transgender people want to adopt a term? Why can’t trans people be happy with the term they have, a trans?
You reckon we should also go back to Love Thy Neighbour style language, too? Why can't people kf colour just be happy with the words they already had to describe them, right?"I don’t know about people of colour because a person of colour has never tried to tell me I’m not white lol but I’m being told I’m not called a female now I’m a cisfemale according to trans people | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Just because a minority want that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to abide by it.
Identify as what you want but it doesn’t mean the rest have to go along with it. "1. I don’t identify like that. 2. Yes you do. It’s call civil society and being an adult. I’m sure you do things others don’t agree with, so maybe you can just stop whatever that is. Stop going on holidays or driving a car cause people don’t have to accept you damaging the environment with green house gasses. And ffs give it up with implying others are forcing their views on you - when you barrel into an another wide quiet thread and push your views on other people. | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Just because a minority want that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to abide by it.
Identify as what you want but it doesn’t mean the rest have to go along with it.
1. I don’t identify like that.
2. Yes you do. It’s call civil society and being an adult. I’m sure you do things others don’t agree with, so maybe you can just stop whatever that is. Stop going on holidays or driving a car cause people don’t have to accept you damaging the environment with green house gasses. And ffs give it up with implying others are forcing their views on you - when you barrel into an another wide quiet thread and push your views on other people. "It is my opinion and I am allowed to have one. I’m not forcing anything on anyone I’m pointing out that I’m not being called something that is being pushed on for me to use by a minority | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Just because a minority want that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to abide by it.
Identify as what you want but it doesn’t mean the rest have to go along with it.
1. I don’t identify like that.
2. Yes you do. It’s call civil society and being an adult. I’m sure you do things others don’t agree with, so maybe you can just stop whatever that is. Stop going on holidays or driving a car cause people don’t have to accept you damaging the environment with green house gasses. And ffs give it up with implying others are forcing their views on you - when you barrel into an another wide quiet thread and push your views on other people.
It is my opinion and I am allowed to have one. I’m not forcing anything on anyone I’m pointing out that I’m not being called something that is being pushed on for me to use by a minority "Just as you are allowed to have an opinion so are others. If anyone shouts hey cisfemale in the street just ignore them. Sorted. | |||
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"I am not uneducated at all, I know what sex organs males have and I know what sex organs females have. You can identify as anything you wish but fact is fact, you are a transitioning trans woman, when you have had bottom surgery you will be a trans woman but you will never be a female. That is a fact that may not be popular but it does not change it as a fact A very uneducated opinion. I know from experience tho that ppl with these opinions won't listen to more neuenced and complicated science that disagrees with their basic science understanding. So im going to leave this now. It's good to see that the majority of people in here though understand more than what the daily mail and the aun says. Bye everyone. Have fun Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female " Science is science .... if 99 trans women and 1 cis woman lived on an island and these individuals bones are examined 100 years from now they would be classed as 99 male and 1 female skeletal remains. May not be a popular statement but does not change that fact never the less | |||
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"I am not uneducated at all, I know what sex organs males have and I know what sex organs females have. You can identify as anything you wish but fact is fact, you are a transitioning trans woman, when you have had bottom surgery you will be a trans woman but you will never be a female. That is a fact that may not be popular but it does not change it as a fact A very uneducated opinion. I know from experience tho that ppl with these opinions won't listen to more neuenced and complicated science that disagrees with their basic science understanding. So im going to leave this now. It's good to see that the majority of people in here though understand more than what the daily mail and the aun says. Bye everyone. Have fun Strange how medical professionals disagree with you. But, you're entitled to your opinion. Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. I am entitled to that I agree, A penis = Male A vagina = Female People can identify as they so wish but they can’t force biological fact on anyone. You can change how you look and how you act but you will never ever be able to think and or feel like a female Science is science .... if 99 trans women and 1 cis woman lived on an island and these individuals bones are examined 100 years from now they would be classed as 99 male and 1 female skeletal remains. May not be a popular statement but does not change that fact never the less" Exactly because there were 99 males and only 1 female on the island regardless of what those 99 people identified as | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
The term “CIS” was only started to be used in 1994 by a graduate student as a way to refer to non transgender people.
I’m sorry but I don’t want to be referred to as a non transgender person, I am a female, born a female and live as one, I don’t appreciate the change of term that’s been used for hundreds of years to suit a certain few who want to identify as that term
Cisgender is the biological term it wasn’t invested by a grad student in 1994. It’s not a defamatory term, but is only useful when needed to distinguish between a natal born female and eg someone born intersexed. I have zero interest in gender identity debates, but it’s just a fsct cis is not a derogatory term. If you choose to take offence at it that’s your choice, it doesn’t make the term derogatory.
I didn’t say it was derogatory but as a female who has always be called a female I take offence at now being called a cisfemale from transwomen because they want to adopt the term “female”
It’s just a word. Like all minority groups they are fighting for social space, the language will change over time.
Just because a minority want that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to abide by it.
Identify as what you want but it doesn’t mean the rest have to go along with it.
1. I don’t identify like that.
2. Yes you do. It’s call civil society and being an adult. I’m sure you do things others don’t agree with, so maybe you can just stop whatever that is. Stop going on holidays or driving a car cause people don’t have to accept you damaging the environment with green house gasses. And ffs give it up with implying others are forcing their views on you - when you barrel into an another wide quiet thread and push your views on other people.
It is my opinion and I am allowed to have one. I’m not forcing anything on anyone I’m pointing out that I’m not being called something that is being pushed on for me to use by a minority
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! " Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . " This confirms my post. I’m sorry, but bodily presentation and chromosomes don’t always agree let alone bodily presentation and internal awareness of sex. Moreover, I don’t think it’s my place - or society’s -to police someone else’s body or lifestyle within the law. | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . This confirms my post. I’m sorry, but bodily presentation and chromosomes don’t always agree let alone bodily presentation and internal awareness of sex. Moreover, I don’t think it’s my place - or society’s -to police someone else’s body or lifestyle within the law." If we are talking law then you are either a genetically male or female nothing else! | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . This confirms my post. I’m sorry, but bodily presentation and chromosomes don’t always agree let alone bodily presentation and internal awareness of sex. Moreover, I don’t think it’s my place - or society’s -to police someone else’s body or lifestyle within the law. If we are talking law then you are either a genetically male or female nothing else! " Law has no relationship to natural DNA inheritance or mutation. Genetically, it isn’t so simple as having absolute binaries. And as I said earlier, the genetics and biological presentation of a person can disagree | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . This confirms my post. I’m sorry, but bodily presentation and chromosomes don’t always agree let alone bodily presentation and internal awareness of sex. Moreover, I don’t think it’s my place - or society’s -to police someone else’s body or lifestyle within the law. If we are talking law then you are either a genetically male or female nothing else! Law has no relationship to natural DNA inheritance or mutation. Genetically, it isn’t so simple as having absolute binaries. And as I said earlier, the genetics and biological presentation of a person can disagree" Yawn!!! | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . This confirms my post. I’m sorry, but bodily presentation and chromosomes don’t always agree let alone bodily presentation and internal awareness of sex. Moreover, I don’t think it’s my place - or society’s -to police someone else’s body or lifestyle within the law. If we are talking law then you are either a genetically male or female nothing else! Law has no relationship to natural DNA inheritance or mutation. Genetically, it isn’t so simple as having absolute binaries. And as I said earlier, the genetics and biological presentation of a person can disagree Yawn!!!" No debate! Male = cock Female = fanny | |||
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"Call yourself anything you want doesn't me that society has to accept that! Accept my beliefs you biggot I haven’t heard any beliefs, I’ve heard your misunderstanding of science. I’m helping you. You can thank me. " Science tells us what exactly???? | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people with GCSE level biology knowledge but a lifetime degree in ignorance try to tell others what their experience is. Gender and biological sex are two very different things. Language changes and develops as society does, whether you like it or not and continues whether you like it or not. Have all of the opinions you like, it doesn’t make you right. This. The Dunning–Kruger effect is strong tonight! Just because someone chooses to change their "gender" to M or F doesn't mean I have to accept that! Do they have me genitalia yes? = man . This confirms my post. I’m sorry, but bodily presentation and chromosomes don’t always agree let alone bodily presentation and internal awareness of sex. Moreover, I don’t think it’s my place - or society’s -to police someone else’s body or lifestyle within the law. If we are talking law then you are either a genetically male or female nothing else! Law has no relationship to natural DNA inheritance or mutation. Genetically, it isn’t so simple as having absolute binaries. And as I said earlier, the genetics and biological presentation of a person can disagree Yawn!!! No debate! Male = cock Female = fanny " Look at the number of comments you’ve had to post in this thread, of course there’s a debate, you are debating right now. Congrats x | |||
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"Call yourself anything you want doesn't me that society has to accept that! Accept my beliefs you biggot I haven’t heard any beliefs, I’ve heard your misunderstanding of science. I’m helping you. You can thank me. Science tells us what exactly???? " Sexual binaries are not absolute | |||
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"Call yourself anything you want doesn't me that society has to accept that! Accept my beliefs you biggot I haven’t heard any beliefs, I’ve heard your misunderstanding of science. I’m helping you. You can thank me. Science tells us what exactly???? Sexual binaries are not absolute " Again my beliefs say otherwise | |||
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"I'm 'Gynosexual'... This means I'm attracted to women, females, and/or femininity, regardless of whether they were assigned female at birth." Ok believe what you want but my beliefs don't follow that can you accept that? | |||
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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay " If you're a woman, to some degree yes. I.e. you might be gay or bi or pan. If you're a man, no. Though you could be a Bi or pan man and be into trans women. But you could be straight too. Trans women are women. | |||
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"if you fancy trans women does that make you gay If you're a woman, to some degree yes. I.e. you might be gay or bi or pan. If you're a man, no. Though you could be a Bi or pan man and be into trans women. But you could be straight too. Trans women are women. " Their cock says otherwise | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. " Well said Also, you're fucking hot ?????? | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. Well said Also, you're fucking hot ??????" That was meant to be hearts. This site is so outdated . | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. A trans woman who has male sex organs is a man, sorry but just because you want to think of yourself as a woman the fact of the matter is you have a cock, you are a man. " You'd think a Bi couple wouldn't be this horrible and transphobic, and know better. | |||
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"Bigot= a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group" Isn't Google great | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur. "It's almost exclusively used as an insult. It's offensive, and you should be more sensitive. I'd have thought someone with your background would oppose slurs. Cis is on the same level as faggot or the likes. You don't call anyone anything like that. And there is no need to call anyone "cis" anyway. It serves no purpose other than insult. | |||
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"Call yourself anything you want doesn't me that society has to accept that! Accept my beliefs you biggot I haven’t heard any beliefs, I’ve heard your misunderstanding of science. I’m helping you. You can thank me. Science tells us what exactly???? Sexual binaries are not absolute Again my beliefs say otherwise " Binary is literally based on the word "two". lol So yeah, absolutely agree with you here, bud. I don't have anything against gay men or trans people (mtf or ftm) and however you want to present yourself, but you are dealt your cards and you can't change them. If you feel like you're in the wrong body, you can fight for your rights to treated equally, but you will never actually be the opposite gender. You can have surgeries, you can take hormones and dress and talk differently, and that is all good and well, but on a biological level you are still what you were born as. Even if you don't like it and do your best to not be. I think most people will just accept trans people for that, but what goes against the grain is when people are trying to bend biology in their favour and then go around and call others slur as some sort of revenge. It's not easy being transsexual, I have no doubts about that, but that is no excuse to lash out and just insult people for being who they are. Isn't that what trans people try to fight for themselves? Oh, the hypocrisy! Rules for thee but not for me! Be trans. Go suck cock. Be a bottom bitch. Or dunno, still go and fuck women. No one really cares or should care, but that doesn't give you the right to come here and insult biological women for being born with everything you wish you had! | |||
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"Trans women are women. If we are actually transitioning, like me. We are women. End of. Used to be men, past tense. Hetro men are attracted to me for my femininity. If you are that hung up on genitalia, well that sounds more like the 80s gay paranoia of "what would my closed minded friends think". Sexuality is a wide varied spectrum. Not an absolute im either gay straight or bi. Well said Also, you're fucking hot ?????? That was meant to be hearts. This site is so outdated . o. So confused , this is supposed to be a site for people who are open and liberated" Supposed being the correct thought | |||
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"Same as all this CIS crap, I am a female and I’m offended at being called a cisfemale by trans…you have… female, male and trans… getting sick of all these made up words by trans people to make themselves feel better. A handful spout on about how offended they are about the wrong pro nouns being used but how about us females and males who are as we were born being subjected to these terms? Don't see the comparison? Born as a female and happy as one I have it easy! Don't have to constantly justify who I am! So don't see myself subjected to anything! I'm a sis woman and happy! X I was born as a female, I am female and I’m happy as a female but I wouldn’t be happy to be referred to or called a ciswoman.
Cis is a slur. Agreed.
Cis is a medical term. You may as well assert that left handed is a slur.
It's almost exclusively used as an insult. It's offensive, and you should be more sensitive. I'd have thought someone with your background would oppose slurs.
Cis is on the same level as faggot or the likes. You don't call anyone anything like that. And there is no need to call anyone "cis" anyway. It serves no purpose other than insult."Ohh dear! It's not an insult! I'm a cis woman because I was born a woman! Pure and simple! | |||
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"being gay still has a stigma attached gays don't : pay more tax have shorter lives talk with their mouths full of food cut up cyclists fart in children's faces lick plug sockets steal pens wee in swimming pools but the way being gay still seems stigmatised by straight men, you'd think all the above was true" I mean, I do steal pens and wee in pools. Maybe the straights are right about some of us. | |||
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"I think some trans ladies are stunning and if they convinced me they were a woman then I don't think so. I personally like convincing trans girls. Been with one. Wrong situation to enjoy it Fun thought: I think many men who are into trans women may not be that interested in women. There is a certain distinction in their heads. Otherwise they wouldn't look specifically for "trans". You seem to confirm that. Care to say more?"
Not sure I understand your “fun thought”, or what makes it “fun”.
Yes there will be some men who are into other men and t-girls. And there will be some who are into women and t-girls. And others who are very much into men, women and t’s. What the split is between these various groups is of no interest to me whatsoever.
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"I’m a straight guy and have no interest in sucking cock but wow there some very hot convincing trans women on fab that I would say I’m attracted to and wouldn’t mind making friends with some of them 'Convincing' is an ugly term. Trans woman are woman regardless how someone dictates if they -pass-" this is why the world and people are so messed up because they have to be so careful with what they write or say in fear of offending people and it’s getting worse by the day no wonder why the mental health is so high | |||
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