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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is Remembrance becoming performative?

I’ll start this by saying that I’m ex services, and I suppose would be considered a veteran now. For the last 25 odd years I’ve had a monthly direct debit to the RBL.

Years ago, you used to buy a poppy, attend your local service and have a pint with the veterans afterwards. You might have the odd woman who had a bejewelled poppy brooch and that was it. It was about remembering, honouring and supporting the work of the Royal British Legion.

Nowadays, it seems to be a lot more performative. People plaster their vans and lorries with ‘Lest we forget’ graphics and vinyl poppies. Someone I know has it tattooed on his back, and shows it off at every opportunity. I asked if he’s made a contribution. No, but he thought the tattoo cool.

I’ve seen similar mugs, t shirts and other merchandise for sale that appears to have no connection to charities or racing funds for them.

People gorge on the violence of war and the derring do, but forget about the tragedy and lives ruined or lost.

I wonder how many, up in arms about the protests, will actually attend a Remembrance service?

It all feels very performative and makes me a little uncomfortable.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

It's turned into a virtue signaling festival.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's turned into a virtue signaling festival."

Thank you! You’ve said it far more concisely than I have!!

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Is it possible, I am just wondering, that somebody could genuinely feel respect for the victims of conflict and display such respect with a poppy without being accused of virtue signalling? Just wondering...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who hasn't been anywhere near the army, I would say that as long as it's not harming anyone, let people pay their respects and honour the day as they see fit.

After all, aren't these included in the sort of freedoms that were and are being fought for?

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

I’m also starting to become a little uncomfortable with the apparent zeal around this. I’ve attended lots of ceremonies and like to reflect on the past.

BUT It seems like it’s now mandatory, almost to a religious level. Virtue signalling seems to have overtaken reality for some people.

Gbat

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"As someone who hasn't been anywhere near the army, I would say that as long as it's not harming anyone, let people pay their respects and honour the day as they see fit.

After all, aren't these included in the sort of freedoms that were and are being fought for?"
Beautifully and non-judgmentally put

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Is it possible, I am just wondering, that somebody could genuinely feel respect for the victims of conflict and display such respect with a poppy without being accused of virtue signalling? Just wondering..."

This. I have always attended where possible and always will.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Is it possible, I am just wondering, that somebody could genuinely feel respect for the victims of conflict and display such respect with a poppy without being accused of virtue signalling? Just wondering...

This. I have always attended where possible and always will. "
Likewise.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"As someone who hasn't been anywhere near the army, I would say that as long as it's not harming anyone, let people pay their respects and honour the day as they see fit.

After all, aren't these included in the sort of freedoms that were and are being fought for?Beautifully and non-judgmentally put "

Absolutely! It works both ways. The right to be involved or not involved.

Gbat

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"As someone who hasn't been anywhere near the army, I would say that as long as it's not harming anyone, let people pay their respects and honour the day as they see fit.

After all, aren't these included in the sort of freedoms that were and are being fought for?Beautifully and non-judgmentally put

Absolutely! It works both ways. The right to be involved or not involved.

Gbat"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"As someone who hasn't been anywhere near the army, I would say that as long as it's not harming anyone, let people pay their respects and honour the day as they see fit.

After all, aren't these included in the sort of freedoms that were and are being fought for?"

As ex forces I agree with you, the legion can't control those who sell merchandise and some will buy it with good intentions without knowing none of it goes to the RBL..

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough/ Kettering

I'm guessing it's like a lot more charities. There's a number of people at the top of the ladder earning a lot of money out of it. If the general public knew what some well known charities pay to already wealthy people to be their chairman etc well, they'd stop donating.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I'm guessing it's like a lot more charities. There's a number of people at the top of the ladder earning a lot of money out of it. If the general public knew what some well known charities pay to already wealthy people to be their chairman etc well, they'd stop donating. "

Do you believe ALL charities are structured in this way? I am curious because I feel that is what our present government has been doing with our taxes for 13 years. Charities I am a little more fond of... at least some of the donations get to those who are in need.

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk.

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough/ Kettering


"I'm guessing it's like a lot more charities. There's a number of people at the top of the ladder earning a lot of money out of it. If the general public knew what some well known charities pay to already wealthy people to be their chairman etc well, they'd stop donating.

Do you believe ALL charities are structured in this way? I am curious because I feel that is what our present government has been doing with our taxes for 13 years. Charities I am a little more fond of... at least some of the donations get to those who are in need."

I don't think all if them do but I know a lot of the big ones do. A friend of a friend does a lot of charity work and knows a lot about it and some of the stories he told me one day were shocking !

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk. "
Absolutely support this and you!

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I'm guessing it's like a lot more charities. There's a number of people at the top of the ladder earning a lot of money out of it. If the general public knew what some well known charities pay to already wealthy people to be their chairman etc well, they'd stop donating.

Do you believe ALL charities are structured in this way? I am curious because I feel that is what our present government has been doing with our taxes for 13 years. Charities I am a little more fond of... at least some of the donations get to those who are in need.

I don't think all if them do but I know a lot of the big ones do. A friend of a friend does a lot of charity work and knows a lot about it and some of the stories he told me one day were shocking ! "
Sure, bad apples everywhere I agree. Some do amazing work though. It is a bit like "politicians" - just because some are selfish dubious characters, most get a bad reputation merely by being associated with politics.

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough/ Kettering


"Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk. "

My grandad was in the far east during the second world war and he never talked about it and would never watch the armistice day march or buy a poppy. I think he just wanted to blank it out of his memory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone who hasn't been anywhere near the army, I would say that as long as it's not harming anyone, let people pay their respects and honour the day as they see fit.

After all, aren't these included in the sort of freedoms that were and are being fought for?"

You’re right, paying respect is a personal thing… I attend my local service but never go into the church, I’m a non believer and won’t disrespect the guys I knew and died.

I buy my poppy/poppies from the RBL and always make a donation in the church hall afterwards.

This year on the Saturday I’ll be heading to Crich as it’s my regimental monument and they’ll do a drumhead service there. A great day with my oldest mates and into the cliff inn or black swan afterwards

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk.

My grandad was in the far east during the second world war and he never talked about it and would never watch the armistice day march or buy a poppy. I think he just wanted to blank it out of his memory "

Sadly not uncommon with those who came back from some places, wanting to protect loved ones from the horror's they'd witnessed..

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Is Remembrance becoming performative?

I’ll start this by saying that I’m ex services, and I suppose would be considered a veteran now. For the last 25 odd years I’ve had a monthly direct debit to the RBL.

Years ago, you used to buy a poppy, attend your local service and have a pint with the veterans afterwards. You might have the odd woman who had a bejewelled poppy brooch and that was it. It was about remembering, honouring and supporting the work of the Royal British Legion.

Nowadays, it seems to be a lot more performative. People plaster their vans and lorries with ‘Lest we forget’ graphics and vinyl poppies. Someone I know has it tattooed on his back, and shows it off at every opportunity. I asked if he’s made a contribution. No, but he thought the tattoo cool.

I’ve seen similar mugs, t shirts and other merchandise for sale that appears to have no connection to charities or racing funds for them.

People gorge on the violence of war and the derring do, but forget about the tragedy and lives ruined or lost.

I wonder how many, up in arms about the protests, will actually attend a Remembrance service?

It all feels very performative and makes me a little uncomfortable.

"

As an ex scout we always took to a parade be it cold or wet it was a privilege to walk with and remember the people how gave me the freedom to do what I wanted.

Would this sit be allowed today if it was not for the freedom we know but forget how it was handed to us with out sacrifice.

Respect and thanks to survivors and the fallen.

They went with songs to the battle, they were young,

Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.

They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,

They fell with their faces to the foe.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning

We will remember them.

They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;

They sit no more at familiar tables of home;

They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;

They sleep beyond England's foam.

But where our desires are and our hopes profound,

Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,

To the innermost heart of their own land they are known

As the stars are known to the Night;

As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,

Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain,

As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,

To the end, to the end, they remain.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk.

My grandad was in the far east during the second world war and he never talked about it and would never watch the armistice day march or buy a poppy. I think he just wanted to blank it out of his memory "

It has not been hijacked by the far right,that is cheap and ignorant.My grandfather's and uncles all served in Ww2 (relatives dead and alive in ww1,for example and later),they never talked about it because they didn't believe they had done anything special,they had served their country,simple,nothing special.Thats what you are supposed to do.(their belief,all volunteers)Why have I been given medals,I've done nothing special?Those guys don't need a poppy to remember their mates,they have earned the right to grieve or forget their way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is Remembrance becoming performative?

I’ll start this by saying that I’m ex services, and I suppose would be considered a veteran now. For the last 25 odd years I’ve had a monthly direct debit to the RBL.

Years ago, you used to buy a poppy, attend your local service and have a pint with the veterans afterwards. You might have the odd woman who had a bejewelled poppy brooch and that was it. It was about remembering, honouring and supporting the work of the Royal British Legion.

Nowadays, it seems to be a lot more performative. People plaster their vans and lorries with ‘Lest we forget’ graphics and vinyl poppies. Someone I know has it tattooed on his back, and shows it off at every opportunity. I asked if he’s made a contribution. No, but he thought the tattoo cool.

I’ve seen similar mugs, t shirts and other merchandise for sale that appears to have no connection to charities or racing funds for them.

People gorge on the violence of war and the derring do, but forget about the tragedy and lives ruined or lost.

I wonder how many, up in arms about the protests, will actually attend a Remembrance service?

It all feels very performative and makes me a little uncomfortable.

"

As a woman I have always worn the poppy, I buy a new one every year and wear it all year round! We plan to attend a service on Sunday and go to the Aberdeen war memorial. My granda served at Dunkirk and luckily came home. To me it's not just about those who have died, but also the injured and just those who served. I have so much respect for you and I thank you for serving is and keeping us safe x

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By *partansword78Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

i think the RBL are finished, more and more clubs are closing because memberships are down, The RBL is run by civilians, and i know a few veterans that were turned away or signposted to smaller charities when they approached them for help. All the while the directors board are paying themselves fat cat salaries, i cancelled my membership a few years ago in disgust. Did you know the RBL has copyright over the poppy? a living plant that grows out the ground and they were allowed to copyright it and monopolise it, so other charities can`t use it. Regarding parades, iv`e been on a few, i prefer spending remembrance day going round friends graves that crossed the bar, and having some peace and quiet to remember and reflect. LWF, NO/SP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i think the RBL are finished, more and more clubs are closing because memberships are down, The RBL is run by civilians, and i know a few veterans that were turned away or signposted to smaller charities when they approached them for help. All the while the directors board are paying themselves fat cat salaries, i cancelled my membership a few years ago in disgust. Did you know the RBL has copyright over the poppy? a living plant that grows out the ground and they were allowed to copyright it and monopolise it, so other charities can`t use it. Regarding parades, iv`e been on a few, i prefer spending remembrance day going round friends graves that crossed the bar, and having some peace and quiet to remember and reflect. LWF, NO/SP."
it's sad. The forgotten. It's supposed to be a reflection day. Some people think it's shouldn't be deserved. I have to say some of the Brits I served with had it worse than me. Alot of people there don't like patriotism. But they they were holding the line. It was impressive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I'll do what I always do. The missing person table. The ones who can't toast.

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By *oJo pornstarMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

We live at a time and in a country that has unbelievable freedom, a freedom that throughout history only an absolute tiny tiny amount of people have been privileged to have, even today in 2023 the majority of people on this earth do not enjoy the freedoms that we have. Many people in this country and the rest of the western world take that freedom for granted as though just being alive entitles them to it.

Our freedom didn't come free, when the majority of people start to believe our freedom will always be there no matter what then we are in trouble.

Remembrance day is not only a chance to show respect for those who made the ultimate sacrifice and to those who survived, it's also a day to remember how lucky and privileged we are to live in this great country and to never take our country or our freedom for granted

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By *hawn ScottMan
over a year ago

london Brixton

I'm ex forces but never got away from it for years after. Went straight back to the MOD as a contractor and always bought a "tie pin" type poppy and put it on my work lanyard. Obviously this is not allowed to be worn outside the building so never really made thar much of a deal of it.

I am so VERY happy that we have a bunch of football hooligans supposedly defending the cenotaph this weekend. Christ another bunch of edl like thugs acting hard men I wonder should we thank then for their service?

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

My advice is only buy poppies where you can verify the money goes to the RBL. Money raised by the Royal British Legion goes to support and finance charities to help veterans.

When I left the Army , I was diagnosed with PTSD . I had seen many things during my service that I can never unsee. And thanks to the RBL ,I got the counciling I desperately needed from an organisation funded by the RBL.

The hard work they put in year after year to raise money foe organisations like the one which helped me is vital.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
over a year ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders


"Is Remembrance becoming performative?

I’ll start this by saying that I’m ex services, and I suppose would be considered a veteran now. For the last 25 odd years I’ve had a monthly direct debit to the RBL.

Years ago, you used to buy a poppy, attend your local service and have a pint with the veterans afterwards. You might have the odd woman who had a bejewelled poppy brooch and that was it. It was about remembering, honouring and supporting the work of the Royal British Legion.

Nowadays, it seems to be a lot more performative. People plaster their vans and lorries with ‘Lest we forget’ graphics and vinyl poppies. Someone I know has it tattooed on his back, and shows it off at every opportunity. I asked if he’s made a contribution. No, but he thought the tattoo cool.

I’ve seen similar mugs, t shirts and other merchandise for sale that appears to have no connection to charities or racing funds for them.

People gorge on the violence of war and the derring do, but forget about the tragedy and lives ruined or lost.

I wonder how many, up in arms about the protests, will actually attend a Remembrance service?

It all feels very performative and makes me a little uncomfortable.

"

I understand what you mean OP, being afraid that the lessons aren't learned and that the fallen are forgotten through the ages as it becomes 'on trend' and commercialised

The survivors too are forgotten, it always gave me food for thought and kind of brought the realities to life when you saw the vets in the parades and in churches. We have lost that now as relatives take the mantles.

I hope they keep WWW1 and WW2 on the curriculum so children can keep learning and keep remembering because if they don't who will be there to remind us

I always support the RBL each year with a new metal poppy and always buy them off the vendors. I buy them and hand them to the children I work with.

I also buy a metal purple poppy each year when they are available from Murphys Law as I feel it's important to honour the animals who also served

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By *tyoursecretserviceMan
over a year ago

sow

What a load of bollox some people talk...fucking snowflakes: everyone one wants to sound politically correct.

The point of remberance is to remember. Original as closure to the so called war to end all wars. Then the next war and so on. The poppy is a symbol to show that those who wear it remember.

I served my late Queen for 20yrs Lebanon Falklands Northern Ireland Bosnia Gulf. I don't need Medals or Poppys my PTSD reminds me every night.

I cannot attend any muster it too emotionally destroying for me. The 11th highlights this and completely fucks up my days around it. But hey I crack on unwaverd if I don't like some of my brother's it could end me if I didn't.

I have raised thousands for the RBL in my own way. I don't care how much the guy at the top is payed as I see 1st hand the good this money has provided for those who remain.

You have like every one a choice where you buy your poppy. Who gives a fuck...it's a symbol you only wear once a year. Then the bin it and move on to your next calendar agenda. Not giving a shit about forces children wife's Husband's sons Daughters. You just abandoned those who truly Remember to walk alone.

Wear your poppy everyday and remember. Or better still don't pose certain questions on a fucking sex site.

Rant over .... Don't bother replying to me as I really don't give to shits on your thoughts x

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"Or better still don't pose certain questions on a fucking sex site.

Rant over .... Don't bother replying to me as I really don't give to shits on your thoughts "

For someone who doesn’t care what others think, you’re very keen to tell us what you think. It actually did come across as ranting.

I hope you get help for your PTSD.

Best of luck,

Gbat

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By *rigbyMan
over a year ago

Skelmersdale

Every year at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month I stand quietly and silently in honour of those who gave their lives for future generations to be free from tyranny and oppression. I wear a poppy as a physical reminder to myself of the sacrifice of those servicemen who gave their lives for me to live in freedom.

I have no military connection nor have friends who have served.

Remembrance day is to remember those brave people, and to thank them in my own way..silently, reverently, and with humble appreciation for their ultimate sacrifice.

That's all that matters, that's what Remembrance Day is for.

I enjoy watching the parade from Whitehall to the Cenotaph and if its disrupted, or dishonoured by protesters about another war or militant thugs it will be a disgrace and shame those involved around the world.

But its the day,not the pomp and circumstances or any discussion about today's clash between two sides who are no better than each other that's important.

I can honour and respect the heroic fallen in a personal, private way and so can everyone else...the only important thing is that others do too.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning... I will always remember them

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By *partansword78Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

did a few patrols over in iraq in 2004 with the yanks, great bunch of guys. over in america it seems they respect veterans more, over here it`s a different story. If i could turn back the clock i`d do it all over again tho. stay frosty my crazy colonial cousin. lol

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By *partansword78Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

iv`e noticed that over the last few years, these football groups involving themselves in veteran affairs and parades to increase their public image. Some of them turned up to the cenotaph in Glasgow when BLM were threatening to desecrate it, they were more rowdy than the protestors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"did a few patrols over in iraq in 2004 with the yanks, great bunch of guys. over in america it seems they respect veterans more, over here it`s a different story. If i could turn back the clock i`d do it all over again tho. stay frosty my crazy colonial cousin. lol"
my husband and I both served. Spent alot of time with you " Redcoats" in Afghanistan and Iraq. The common bond transcends cultural indifferances. True we cherish that bond more than others.

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By *ickD80Man
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

It’s something else that people have decided to be offended by when there’s absolutely nothing offensive about it. I’m not an expert on it but I’ve always seen it as a time to remember and thank the people who died fighting for our country and protecting our freedom. I don’t see how anyone can be offended by that and i can’t understand why anyone would be against it. Some people seem to see it as a way of supporting war and violence, or supporting the British army, or supporting the invasion of another country, rather than seeing what it actually is. Paying respect to people who’ve died in battle isn’t the same as supporting war and violence.

There was an Irish footballer who refused to wear a football shirt with a poppy stitched on it because he didn’t want to support the British army, so he’s basically saying he doesn’t have any sympathy for anyone who’s died fighting for Britain, he doesn’t care about the teenagers who died in the world wars to stop Europe getting taken over by fascists. People risk their lives fighting for other people and he won’t wear a shirt with a poppy on it….how can people be so ungrateful and disrespectful.

I feel pity for anyone who dies in battle, I’m completely against Russia invading Ukraine but I feel so much sympathy for the Russian soldiers who have died in that war, if I saw someone collecting money to help the families of the Russian soldiers who’ve died in that war I’d donate, it doesn’t mean that I support Russia’s invasion it just means that I have empathy for people who’ve had to endure something horrific.

People are marching through London every weekend demanding peace but they are against remembering victims of war? The soldiers who die fighting wars don’t start the wars, they don’t want to be fighting in wars, they’re as much victims of war and civilians are.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"People are marching through London every weekend demanding peace but they are against remembering victims of war? "

Why do you think they are against remembering victims of war?

The forthcoming march in London to protest against Israeli action in Palestine is for that exact reason. It’s got nothing to do with armistice day other than it will take place on the same day.

Gbat

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By *partansword78Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

good stuff, i did a tour of iraq in 04, i got out before my unit deployed to afghan. i remember in middle of iraq tour we got some stand down and was taken to camp doha for some R&R, you yanks know how to make a camp, outdoor pools, pizza huts, a cinema, i could have happily seen out the rest of the tour there. lol

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By *egoMan
over a year ago

Preston

Yeah people do go nuts. Its almost like how the Americans go overboard about veterans, i’m not sure its a negative but i just don't get it, sometimes i even think its tacky. Does it make people feel like they’ve helped, has their expeditions raised funds for charity?

Im a vet. and a simple poppy and parade attendance is all i think is required. Its a solum occasion. A reminder to not do it again, even though it is thanks to politicians and remembering the fallen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk. "

Hijacked by far right you will have to explain this one

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

Well.....there are loads more people who survive wars now, due to medical advancements, help for heroes needs cash, so if pomp around this weekend, helps give someone who risked his life to help others, a little help then yes I'd support them with whatever merchandise they wish.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"Yeah people do go nuts. Its almost like how the Americans go overboard about veterans, i’m not sure its a negative but i just don't get it, sometimes i even think its tacky. Does it make people feel like they’ve helped, has their expeditions raised funds for charity?

Im a vet. and a simple poppy and parade attendance is all i think is required. Its a solum occasion. A reminder to not do it again, even though it is thanks to politicians and remembering the fallen."

A number of my relatives served in the forces. The one who is still alive is aghast at what the day, and the run up to it, has become.

I’m pretty sure the others would yearn for the “old days” too, when it was a simple, solemn, understated day.

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By *uri00620Woman
over a year ago

Croydon


"Unfortunately it’s been hijacked by far right / nationalist “patriots” to push their message.

There’s a bloke down my road who’s got it plastered 24/7 on his car, spitfire included, and it really takes the original message away.

I’ll still remember my Grandad who survived, and his friends who didn’t make it home from Dunkirk.

Hijacked by far right you will have to explain this one "

This is well known. The British Legion in the past threatened legal action against groups like Britain First who appropriated it years ago. That's why some people object to it (hence the production of the white poppy) bc the red has become a political tool.

The BL themselves have said they don't mind what colour people wear (each commemorates after all), but yes, the far right comment is true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s something else that people have decided to be offended by when there’s absolutely nothing offensive about it. I’m not an expert on it but I’ve always seen it as a time to remember and thank the people who died fighting for our country and protecting our freedom. I don’t see how anyone can be offended by that and i can’t understand why anyone would be against it. Some people seem to see it as a way of supporting war and violence, or supporting the British army, or supporting the invasion of another country, rather than seeing what it actually is. Paying respect to people who’ve died in battle isn’t the same as supporting war and violence.

There was an Irish footballer who refused to wear a football shirt with a poppy stitched on it because he didn’t want to support the British army, so he’s basically saying he doesn’t have any sympathy for anyone who’s died fighting for Britain, he doesn’t care about the teenagers who died in the world wars to stop Europe getting taken over by fascists. People risk their lives fighting for other people and he won’t wear a shirt with a poppy on it….how can people be so ungrateful and disrespectful.

I feel pity for anyone who dies in battle, I’m completely against Russia invading Ukraine but I feel so much sympathy for the Russian soldiers who have died in that war, if I saw someone collecting money to help the families of the Russian soldiers who’ve died in that war I’d donate, it doesn’t mean that I support Russia’s invasion it just means that I have empathy for people who’ve had to endure something horrific.

People are marching through London every weekend demanding peace but they are against remembering victims of war? The soldiers who die fighting wars don’t start the wars, they don’t want to be fighting in wars, they’re as much victims of war and civilians are. "

Who said they are against remember victims of war did you ask any of them?

What better way to say never again than to march for peace and freedom of occupied people .

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

How did today go?

Gnat

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By *ickdasterdly51Man
over a year ago

Lingfield

Back when I was younger it was simply poppy day on Remembrance Sunday. Now, with added importance being put on Armistice Day it seems to be split in two and in my view dilutes the whole thing. I completely missed the 11am silence this morning as I was distracted with family things but I'll be up at our local war memorial tomorrow morning as I do every year. However I am also increasingly dismayed by it's appropriation by the far right as today's events have shown. We can all respect our war dead whatever our politics.

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