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"'Girl code'/ 'sisterhood' makes me I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. " Makes me too. I'm not finding it easy!! It's starting to annoy the fuck out of me | |||
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"I wouldn't go anywhere near drama" What if you don't know if it would cause any drama? Would you take the risk? | |||
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"'Girl code'/ 'sisterhood' makes me I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Makes me too. I'm not finding it easy!! It's starting to annoy the fuck out of me" I'm with you on this, plus, I haven't been a 'girl' since the late 80's, I'm a grown ass woman! I'm not friends with women in this scene (consciously) because of the drama that can come with it. I'm friendly in passing but I've never given any women in this scene my mobile number or personal details and keep my friendships outside of here. | |||
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"I wouldn't go anywhere near drama What if you don't know if it would cause any drama? Would you take the risk?" If I didn't know it would cause drama it wouldn't be a risk I guess. I'm not sure how to explain this but I'd probably be oblivious anyway | |||
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" I'm not friends with women in this scene (consciously) because of the drama that can come with it. I'm friendly in passing but I've never given any women in this scene my mobile number or personal details and keep my friendships outside of here. " I was trying to find a way of saying this. | |||
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"Reading the above with interest. What if the guy/gal published his/her veris (assuming you both leave once for them) and both frenemies discover they were involved with the same person?" If someone doesn't understand the nature of swinging its not my problem | |||
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"'Girl code'/ 'sisterhood' makes me I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Makes me too. I'm not finding it easy!! It's starting to annoy the fuck out of me I'm with you on this, plus, I haven't been a 'girl' since the late 80's, I'm a grown ass woman! I'm not friends with women in this scene (consciously) because of the drama that can come with it. I'm friendly in passing but I've never given any women in this scene my mobile number or personal details and keep my friendships outside of here. " You didn't have to be friends with another woman or give any of your details out to be dragged into a drama though do you. | |||
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"'Girl code'/ 'sisterhood' makes me I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Makes me too. I'm not finding it easy!! It's starting to annoy the fuck out of me I'm with you on this, plus, I haven't been a 'girl' since the late 80's, I'm a grown ass woman! I'm not friends with women in this scene (consciously) because of the drama that can come with it. I'm friendly in passing but I've never given any women in this scene my mobile number or personal details and keep my friendships outside of here. You didn't have to be friends with another woman or give any of your details out to be dragged into a drama though do you. " *Don't | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. " Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though?" No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. | |||
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"So if someone you were shagging then shagged someone you didn't like why exactly would you stop shagging them or have a problem with them? I'd really like that explained in detail. And by that rationale, if you have an interest in someone and one of their veris has blocked that's a big sign to stay away? " It’s up to you. What’s not on is asking the person of interest why you’ve been blocked by one of their verifications. So, if you’re asking you may already know the answer to your very own question. | |||
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"'Girl code'/ 'sisterhood' makes me I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Makes me too. I'm not finding it easy!! It's starting to annoy the fuck out of me I'm with you on this, plus, I haven't been a 'girl' since the late 80's, I'm a grown ass woman! I'm not friends with women in this scene (consciously) because of the drama that can come with it. I'm friendly in passing but I've never given any women in this scene my mobile number or personal details and keep my friendships outside of here. " So much this | |||
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"That situation wouldn’t happen as I don’t tell a soul who I meet and don’t show veris. I have over the years not met people because they’ve met people I really don’t like though. " This! Sometimes I kinda hope they do meet people I don't like, saves on the waxing. | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. " | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though?" No it's not. Telling them if they shag blah blah then I wont shag you again, is controlling who they shag. Just cutting them off after they've shagged blah blah is self respect! There are a few women in my locality that are to be avoided at all costs due to certain lifestyle choices and the drama they love to be involved in. If a partner of mine shags them then I block and cut all ties, no explanation or messages to say why as that is drama. My only code is to look out for me! I do what I want, when I want, with whom i want. As for the *ncestuou* comments above, i couldn't agree more!!! | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No it's not. Telling them if they shag blah blah then I wont shag you again, is controlling who they shag. Just cutting them off after they've shagged blah blah is self respect! There are a few women in my locality that are to be avoided at all costs due to certain lifestyle choices and the drama they love to be involved in. If a partner of mine shags them then I block and cut all ties, no explanation or messages to say why as that is drama. My only code is to look out for me! I do what I want, when I want, with whom i want. As for the *ncestuou* comments above, i couldn't agree more!!! " I never said I’d tell them I’m no longer shagging you because you’ve shagged so and so. That isn’t my style. That’s manipulation, and absolutely controlling. Also childish behaviour. All of which I do not partake in. If I’m spending time with someone from Fab, I’m not simply meeting them for sex. There’s more to it mutually, so for me it’s absolutely self preserving to walk away. | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. " Likewise. | |||
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"I don't shag narried men because of a wife I've never met. So yes i have girl code and a moral code." I agree with this but for a different reason - i don’t play with married me unless their wife is aware / have given them permission. Swinging is all about consent and if he is cheating she hasn’t given her consent | |||
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"'Girl code'/ 'sisterhood' makes me I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Makes me too. I'm not finding it easy!! It's starting to annoy the fuck out of me" Cast your net further afield. The Midlands maybe... | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Likewise. " Is it really 1ncestuous though? Just because people have sex with other people and that some of them may know eachother? Really? This is where I often struggle with people's self determined definitions of 'swinging'. I'll never claim to have the right answer, but the whole 'people not wanting to meet people because who those people have previously met/want to meet/might know' aspect makes me chuckle a bit. It's a bit 'playground to me. Not everyone will like eachother. Not everyone will view others the same way you do. Not everyone will be attracted to those you are. If people just worried about themselves, their preferences, their own interactions and stopped being at all bothered about what others do with other people, then there'd probably be far less angst, stress and bitching. OK.its never gonna happen of course, but one can dream....... | |||
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"OMG why make it this complicated? Swinging is meant to be fun and free thus for me there is only one rule - consent between me and the person I play with. If I have a FB or FWB he or she can do what they want - as long as it’s safe if they also want to play with me. And I always make that clear. If I’m in a proper relationship with someone we agree the rules between us, depending on our dynamic. Play together, play apart, tell, don’t tell - we decide and stick to it. Otherwise communicate people! When I was in a couple we played with another couple who wanted us to see them separately. I was just honest with all involved that wouldn’t work for me, and that was it. Just talk and forget the dramas!" ^^This pretty much summarises it. Most of the times that it breaks down is as a result of someone’s lack of maturity | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Likewise. Is it really 1ncestuous though? Just because people have sex with other people and that some of them may know eachother? Really? " Outside of Fab, why would anyone ever need to know who anyone else is sleeping with? So yes, that seems quite 1ncestuous and overly dramatic. No-one here (even friends) know who I've slept with from Fab. It is easy to avoid the drama. | |||
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"Hmm great question PW! I can tell you my real world answer very easily but it certainly makes me think about it in the swinging world. I don’t think it’s anyone’s business who does what with who really, that’s coming from a single person’s perspective, as long as both parties are honest with each other then people outside of that are not really relevant. " And that would work quite well wouldn't it if people you spoke to or had an interest in actually dint Tel anyone else you were talking. | |||
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"Hmm great question PW! I can tell you my real world answer very easily but it certainly makes me think about it in the swinging world. I don’t think it’s anyone’s business who does what with who really, that’s coming from a single person’s perspective, as long as both parties are honest with each other then people outside of that are not really relevant. And that would work quite well wouldn't it if people you spoke to or had an interest in actually dint Tel anyone else you were talking. " For someone who doesn't like drama aren't you just instigating drama? You do you. If you like someone and are talking with the intent to meet then does it matter if they tell anyone else or if someone doesn't like it. You don't have to acknowledge it and get drawn into it just do what you want. People talk on here, they always have and they always will! Do you really care what someone you don't like/have zero interest in thinks about you? Talk to who you like, meet who you like and fuck anyone else. Well not literally but you know what I mean. | |||
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"Hmm great question PW! I can tell you my real world answer very easily but it certainly makes me think about it in the swinging world. I don’t think it’s anyone’s business who does what with who really, that’s coming from a single person’s perspective, as long as both parties are honest with each other then people outside of that are not really relevant. And that would work quite well wouldn't it if people you spoke to or had an interest in actually dint Tel anyone else you were talking. For someone who doesn't like drama aren't you just instigating drama? You do you. If you like someone and are talking with the intent to meet then does it matter if they tell anyone else or if someone doesn't like it. You don't have to acknowledge it and get drawn into it just do what you want. People talk on here, they always have and they always will! Do you really care what someone you don't like/have zero interest in thinks about you? Talk to who you like, meet who you like and fuck anyone else. Well not literally but you know what I mean. " How is she instigating? She's not telling other people stuff. | |||
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"Is there one? (I'm cringing at myself for actually typing girl code) If you thought A wouldn't be happy about you shagging B would you avoid despite how much you might fancy them out of respect? If there's history between people and they or one of them doesn't get along with you would you steer clear of their lovers? Just current ones or ex ones? If your mate C was shagging D and D approached you for a shag would you? Would you check with C first? What if C said no and you don't like being told no, would you in secret?? Or is it a free for all in a swingers world where everyone is available and fair game? Feel free to add scenarios with the ready if the alphabet " I go partner dancing an here same dynamics crop up all the time. I have spent a lot of time becoming a good dancer because I love what I do so am pretty popular. Mind you the behaviour of women can be shocking. How MSN women confront me in person snd online as to why I don't dance with them. Why I dance with so and so and not them. Who wants to get with who because x has money. Makes you pretty disillusioned with women in the end. | |||
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"Is there one? (I'm cringing at myself for actually typing girl code) If you thought A wouldn't be happy about you shagging B would you avoid despite how much you might fancy them out of respect? If there's history between people and they or one of them doesn't get along with you would you steer clear of their lovers? Just current ones or ex ones? If your mate C was shagging D and D approached you for a shag would you? Would you check with C first? What if C said no and you don't like being told no, would you in secret?? Or is it a free for all in a swingers world where everyone is available and fair game? Feel free to add scenarios with the ready if the alphabet " Surely I'm not the only one reading this and thinking it is a complex maths problem from a school exam. | |||
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"Wow, women are complicated Is Fab getting like ITV where we have to disclose who we are in a sexual relationship with and who our friends are " as if men aren't involved in the drama!! | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Likewise. Is it really 1ncestuous though? Just because people have sex with other people and that some of them may know eachother? Really? Outside of Fab, why would anyone ever need to know who anyone else is sleeping with? So yes, that seems quite 1ncestuous and overly dramatic. No-one here (even friends) know who I've slept with from Fab. It is easy to avoid the drama. " I've seen as much drama off fab as on over the years. It's no different. | |||
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"I don't shag people in secret behind people's backs. So I won't see someone with an unknowing spouse. If sleeping with someone would upset someone I care about, I'll choose not to sleep with them, regardless of what genitals anyone involved has. I thought I wouldn't do near someone if it would hurt someone I knew I'd hurt before. But it turns out I can be a grown up and speak to the people involved and still have my fun if everyone consents Fucking someone some other girl likes? Couldn't care less. Fucking someone that would hurt someone that means something to me? Fuck that noise. " Thank you Prey for saving me typing. This for me. ^^^ J | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Likewise. Is it really 1ncestuous though? Just because people have sex with other people and that some of them may know eachother? Really? Outside of Fab, why would anyone ever need to know who anyone else is sleeping with? So yes, that seems quite 1ncestuous and overly dramatic. No-one here (even friends) know who I've slept with from Fab. It is easy to avoid the drama. I've seen as much drama off fab as on over the years. It's no different. " You mean in the swinging lifestyle? | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Likewise. Is it really 1ncestuous though? Just because people have sex with other people and that some of them may know eachother? Really? Outside of Fab, why would anyone ever need to know who anyone else is sleeping with? So yes, that seems quite 1ncestuous and overly dramatic. No-one here (even friends) know who I've slept with from Fab. It is easy to avoid the drama. I've seen as much drama off fab as on over the years. It's no different. You mean in the swinging lifestyle? " I mean outside of swinging there's still no end of drama, gossip and 'who's shagging who' rumours. Fab is no different. Swinging is no different. Why would it be, when all are just different parts of society? | |||
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"OMG why make it this complicated? Swinging is meant to be fun and free thus for me there is only one rule - consent between me and the person I play with. If I have a FB or FWB he or she can do what they want - as long as it’s safe if they also want to play with me. And I always make that clear. If I’m in a proper relationship with someone we agree the rules between us, depending on our dynamic. Play together, play apart, tell, don’t tell - we decide and stick to it. Otherwise communicate people! When I was in a couple we played with another couple who wanted us to see them separately. I was just honest with all involved that wouldn’t work for me, and that was it. Just talk and forget the dramas! ^^This pretty much summarises it. Most of the times that it breaks down is as a result of someone’s lack of maturity " Thanks for the reply - nice to know I’m not alone in my thinking! I’m starting to think I’m weird for not wanting any rules except consent, trust and open communication! | |||
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"I don't like the !ncestuous nature of swinging so I wouldn't do any scenario where people know each other. I prefer privacy. It's easy to stay under the radar. Likewise. Is it really 1ncestuous though? Just because people have sex with other people and that some of them may know eachother? Really? Outside of Fab, why would anyone ever need to know who anyone else is sleeping with? So yes, that seems quite 1ncestuous and overly dramatic. No-one here (even friends) know who I've slept with from Fab. It is easy to avoid the drama. I've seen as much drama off fab as on over the years. It's no different. You mean in the swinging lifestyle? I mean outside of swinging there's still no end of drama, gossip and 'who's shagging who' rumours. Fab is no different. Swinging is no different. Why would it be, when all are just different parts of society? " I saw a bit of that in my kink community. I think there's more that goes on and I just miss it. But not the level that happens here. My view, but then I'm not popular or hot, I've never slept with anyone from the forums and Ive not attended a social or swinger club in over 2 years. Perhaps I'm just not very observant. | |||
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"It is swinging, I don't get why anyone would be interested in who someone else was having sex with or have any demands of who they can see, unless they were expecting more than swinging For us it was always meet up for sex and use discretion so none of the OP would have affected us. If I was playing as a single female it would have been the same. As for "girl code" if that means all women should stick together no matter what they do then it isn't for me. If it means on a swinging site I would have to ask other females who I could have sex with, then that's not for me either." It's the lack of discretion/ privacy that puts me off. Hence why I don't like to see any veris on profiles. I don't care who they are fucking or how many or who they had coffee with. The !ncestuous nature of swinging is also in 'normal' life. It puts me off there too. | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. " Im confused with this view. If you're fucking some guy, and someone else is also fucking the same guy. Why would it be him bringing you drama? It sound to me like you're scared of creating drama yourself, and that's why you would choose to break it off. | |||
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"I feel like so much of the drama is concentrated just around forumites meeting other forumites, which I find really silly. K " I've been dragged into drama involving other forum users which is why I steer clear...not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere but I'm going by my experience x | |||
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"So if someone you were shagging then shagged someone you didn't like why exactly would you stop shagging them or have a problem with them? I'd really like that explained in detail. And by that rationale, if you have an interest in someone and one of their veris has blocked that's a big sign to stay away? " I might feel a bit weird about it, if I don't like someone say for their views/attitude, how could he find both me and her "attractive" enough to shag? Unless it didn't really mean much... Then I would also question his motives/values etc. It would pose a lot of questions. | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. Im confused with this view. If you're fucking some guy, and someone else is also fucking the same guy. Why would it be him bringing you drama? It sound to me like you're scared of creating drama yourself, and that's why you would choose to break it off. " The pivot point is not that someone I’m having sex with is having sex with others. Perhaps that’s where your confusion lies. Exclusivity was never the focus in my view. In connections I choose to build, and nurture mutually with others I am very clear about my expectations before I ever have sex with the person. What is a pivotal point is mutual respect, and communication. If someone I’ve developed a connection with knows that I dislike someone and the reason for this, and still chooses to have sex with that very person knowing this, their actions show me they disregard me. This is the hinging point where drama becomes inevitable. I’d want no part of that. I’m not irrational or illogical in disliking someone. I wouldn’t just randomly dislike someone with no reason. The person I’m having sex with would know the reasoning for my dislike of the other person without any doubts of where I stand. | |||
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"I feel like so much of the drama is concentrated just around forumites meeting other forumites, which I find really silly. K " When I first joined this site someone who took the time to give me a lot of solid and useful advice… also suggested “Never fuck a forumite.” I’m not going to say I have kept to this - I’m not going to say anything at all in fact - but while I understand some people love the kiss and tell nature of fab and consider it part of swinging - I personally find a lot of that is just… not for me. Why does everyone need to know who / what everyone else is doing? | |||
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"In any community there are generally accepted "ethical guidelines" unwritten rules that many would abide by. While these guidelines may vary among individuals and different swinging communities, they often involve principles of respect, communication, and consent. 1. I think "girl code" encourages mutual respect and support among women. This could include things like not pursuing someone's partner if it could potentially cause relationship issues or respecting boundaries set by other women. 2. I think its generally important to consider the feelings and preferences of others involved. If you believe that a certain person or their partner may not be comfortable with your actions, it is typically best to avoid pursuing them out of respect for their relationship dynamics. 3. If there is a history of conflicts or tensions between you and someone's partner, it is recommended to steer clear of pursuing any romantic or sexual involvement with that person. This applies to both current and past partners. 4. If a close friend (e.g., "C") is involved with someone (e.g., "D") and D approaches you for a sexual encounter, it is generally considered respectful to check with your friend (C) first. Open communication is key in maintaining healthy relationships and avoiding any potential misunderstandings. 5. And if your friend (C) says no or expresses discomfort with you pursuing their partner (D), it is important to respect their boundaries. Ignoring their wishes or going behind their back would not be considered ethical behavior in most swinging circles. Ultimately, openly communicate, establish boundaries, and respect the preferences and feelings of everyone involved." I like this approach. | |||
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"So if someone you were shagging then shagged someone you didn't like why exactly would you stop shagging them or have a problem with them? I'd really like that explained in detail. And by that rationale, if you have an interest in someone and one of their veris has blocked that's a big sign to stay away? I might feel a bit weird about it, if I don't like someone say for their views/attitude, how could he find both me and her "attractive" enough to shag? Unless it didn't really mean much... Then I would also question his motives/values etc. It would pose a lot of questions. " | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. Im confused with this view. If you're fucking some guy, and someone else is also fucking the same guy. Why would it be him bringing you drama? It sound to me like you're scared of creating drama yourself, and that's why you would choose to break it off. The pivot point is not that someone I’m having sex with is having sex with others. Perhaps that’s where your confusion lies. Exclusivity was never the focus in my view. In connections I choose to build, and nurture mutually with others I am very clear about my expectations before I ever have sex with the person. What is a pivotal point is mutual respect, and communication. If someone I’ve developed a connection with knows that I dislike someone and the reason for this, and still chooses to have sex with that very person knowing this, their actions show me they disregard me. This is the hinging point where drama becomes inevitable. I’d want no part of that. I’m not irrational or illogical in disliking someone. I wouldn’t just randomly dislike someone with no reason. The person I’m having sex with would know the reasoning for my dislike of the other person without any doubts of where I stand. " That’s fair | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. Im confused with this view. If you're fucking some guy, and someone else is also fucking the same guy. Why would it be him bringing you drama? It sound to me like you're scared of creating drama yourself, and that's why you would choose to break it off. The pivot point is not that someone I’m having sex with is having sex with others. Perhaps that’s where your confusion lies. Exclusivity was never the focus in my view. In connections I choose to build, and nurture mutually with others I am very clear about my expectations before I ever have sex with the person. What is a pivotal point is mutual respect, and communication. If someone I’ve developed a connection with knows that I dislike someone and the reason for this, and still chooses to have sex with that very person knowing this, their actions show me they disregard me. This is the hinging point where drama becomes inevitable. I’d want no part of that. I’m not irrational or illogical in disliking someone. I wouldn’t just randomly dislike someone with no reason. The person I’m having sex with would know the reasoning for my dislike of the other person without any doubts of where I stand. " It still sounds like you creating the very drama you say you're trying to avoid. If that guy fucks someone you dislike, and then no drama ensues, then where is the issue? You seem very certain there would be drama, hence my opinion that you would be the one creating it. Obviously I say all of this whilst agreeing that you can break it off with anyone for any reason you choose. | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. Im confused with this view. If you're fucking some guy, and someone else is also fucking the same guy. Why would it be him bringing you drama? It sound to me like you're scared of creating drama yourself, and that's why you would choose to break it off. The pivot point is not that someone I’m having sex with is having sex with others. Perhaps that’s where your confusion lies. Exclusivity was never the focus in my view. In connections I choose to build, and nurture mutually with others I am very clear about my expectations before I ever have sex with the person. What is a pivotal point is mutual respect, and communication. If someone I’ve developed a connection with knows that I dislike someone and the reason for this, and still chooses to have sex with that very person knowing this, their actions show me they disregard me. This is the hinging point where drama becomes inevitable. I’d want no part of that. I’m not irrational or illogical in disliking someone. I wouldn’t just randomly dislike someone with no reason. The person I’m having sex with would know the reasoning for my dislike of the other person without any doubts of where I stand. It still sounds like you creating the very drama you say you're trying to avoid. If that guy fucks someone you dislike, and then no drama ensues, then where is the issue? You seem very certain there would be drama, hence my opinion that you would be the one creating it. Obviously I say all of this whilst agreeing that you can break it off with anyone for any reason you choose. " There’s no way in my narrow mind that someone I’m fucking is able to fancy me based on my values, attitude, and views and fancy someone else with opposing views, values and attitude. Views, values and attitude that we both find distasteful. It’s incomprehensible to me. I’d question everything I know about the person I’m fucking if this situation occurred. It would mean I don’t know them as I thought I did it. I’d also question their integrity because if we’ve connected due to complimentary and equal views, attitude, and values, how can they fancy someone with distinct differences in these same areas? The drama isn’t a quarrel because they put their appendage into another person. That’s not a problem. I hope they have loads of fun fucking others, and make thrilling memories that fill them with pleasure. The drama would be derived from the lack of integrity they’ve either shown me or this other person whom I’ve ascertained is radically different from that which we’ve connected over. | |||
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"For me it’s not about girl code. It’s respect for someone. I don’t go round announcing who I’m shagging so the idea that another woman would know who I’m shagging, from me directly, isn’t a possibility. If a person I was shagging knew I disliked another person and shagged them, I’d no longer shag them. Who they shag isn’t for me to control or have a say in, but if they knew I disliked the person and were happy to shag them knowing so I can’t fathom I’d continue shagging them. The situation smells of far too much drama brewing. If they did so and hid it from me, they’d be classed a coward by me. Too much drama again and I’d run far away. Could my mind be changed? No, the whole thing screams drama waiting to unfold. Isn't saying that you'd stop shagging someone because they shagged someone you didn't like actually controlling who they shag though? No, it’s choosing to not allow myself to be a part of their drama. If they knew I didn’t get on with the person, they’ve brought drama to me. Me choosing to not be involved with them anymore is my choice. I am only in control of my body. I can choose to no longer shag someone for any reason. It’s not controlling them, it’s making a choice that suits me in the drama filled mess they’ve brought me into. Just because I’m shagging someone doesn’t it’s an endless supply of sex no matter what. Im confused with this view. If you're fucking some guy, and someone else is also fucking the same guy. Why would it be him bringing you drama? It sound to me like you're scared of creating drama yourself, and that's why you would choose to break it off. The pivot point is not that someone I’m having sex with is having sex with others. Perhaps that’s where your confusion lies. Exclusivity was never the focus in my view. In connections I choose to build, and nurture mutually with others I am very clear about my expectations before I ever have sex with the person. What is a pivotal point is mutual respect, and communication. If someone I’ve developed a connection with knows that I dislike someone and the reason for this, and still chooses to have sex with that very person knowing this, their actions show me they disregard me. This is the hinging point where drama becomes inevitable. I’d want no part of that. I’m not irrational or illogical in disliking someone. I wouldn’t just randomly dislike someone with no reason. The person I’m having sex with would know the reasoning for my dislike of the other person without any doubts of where I stand. It still sounds like you creating the very drama you say you're trying to avoid. If that guy fucks someone you dislike, and then no drama ensues, then where is the issue? You seem very certain there would be drama, hence my opinion that you would be the one creating it. Obviously I say all of this whilst agreeing that you can break it off with anyone for any reason you choose. There’s no way in my narrow mind that someone I’m fucking is able to fancy me based on my values, attitude, and views and fancy someone else with opposing views, values and attitude. Views, values and attitude that we both find distasteful. It’s incomprehensible to me. I’d question everything I know about the person I’m fucking if this situation occurred. It would mean I don’t know them as I thought I did it. I’d also question their integrity because if we’ve connected due to complimentary and equal views, attitude, and values, how can they fancy someone with distinct differences in these same areas? The drama isn’t a quarrel because they put their appendage into another person. That’s not a problem. I hope they have loads of fun fucking others, and make thrilling memories that fill them with pleasure. The drama would be derived from the lack of integrity they’ve either shown me or this other person whom I’ve ascertained is radically different from that which we’ve connected over. " Irs the first time you've mentioned 'opposing views', and 'radically different'. It sounds very much more nuanced than swinging. | |||
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"I feel like so much of the drama is concentrated just around forumites meeting other forumites, which I find really silly. K I've been dragged into drama involving other forum users which is why I steer clear...not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere but I'm going by my experience x It happens elsewhere. You just won't hear about it, aside from maybe via cringey status updates. Because those people don't use the forums, it means forum users will generally be unaware. If it's not plastered all over the lounge then you won't know about it. " Indeed! Forum gossip we see, so it often feels like it's a forum only thing. But forum users are people (mostly) just like those out there in the big wide world, they have the same shitty traits as forum users. We just don't see their gossip and drama. Definitely seen a few few local status updates among a few rivalries that could star an actual fab war. | |||
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"I feel like so much of the drama is concentrated just around forumites meeting other forumites, which I find really silly. K When I first joined this site someone who took the time to give me a lot of solid and useful advice… also suggested “Never fuck a forumite.” I’m not going to say I have kept to this - I’m not going to say anything at all in fact - but while I understand some people love the kiss and tell nature of fab and consider it part of swinging - I personally find a lot of that is just… not for me. Why does everyone need to know who / what everyone else is doing? " I am singing from hymn sheet of the above.. | |||
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"I feel like so much of the drama is concentrated just around forumites meeting other forumites, which I find really silly. K I've been dragged into drama involving other forum users which is why I steer clear...not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere but I'm going by my experience x It happens elsewhere. You just won't hear about it, aside from maybe via cringey status updates. Because those people don't use the forums, it means forum users will generally be unaware. If it's not plastered all over the lounge then you won't know about it. Indeed! Forum gossip we see, so it often feels like it's a forum only thing. But forum users are people (mostly) just like those out there in the big wide world, they have the same shitty traits as forum users. We just don't see their gossip and drama. Definitely seen a few few local status updates among a few rivalries that could star an actual fab war. " The above is done in distaste. I will never get off with a forumites period. | |||
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"Is there one? (I'm cringing at myself for actually typing girl code) If you thought A wouldn't be happy about you shagging B would you avoid despite how much you might fancy them out of respect? If there's history between people and they or one of them doesn't get along with you would you steer clear of their lovers? Just current ones or ex ones? I didnt know was one If your mate C was shagging D and D approached you for a shag would you? Would you check with C first? What if C said no and you don't like being told no, would you in secret?? Or is it a free for all in a swingers world where everyone is available and fair game? Feel free to add scenarios with the ready if the alphabet " didnt know there was code other than be clean | |||
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"I feel like so much of the drama is concentrated just around forumites meeting other forumites, which I find really silly. K I've been dragged into drama involving other forum users which is why I steer clear...not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere but I'm going by my experience x It happens elsewhere. You just won't hear about it, aside from maybe via cringey status updates. Because those people don't use the forums, it means forum users will generally be unaware. If it's not plastered all over the lounge then you won't know about it. Indeed! Forum gossip we see, so it often feels like it's a forum only thing. But forum users are people (mostly) just like those out there in the big wide world, they have the same shitty traits as forum users. We just don't see their gossip and drama. Definitely seen a few few local status updates among a few rivalries that could star an actual fab war. " Definitely seen statuses! | |||
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