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"Why does it matter what gender the person reads the story is? If anything, the only thing I find weird is labelling it “trans story time” Why not just story time and let whoever read a story " Totally agree - it’s all about inclusivity  | |||
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"If you expand a little, give me a bit of context or your view I may have something to think about." The devils in the detail I thought?  | |||
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"Why does it matter what gender the person reads the story is? If anything, the only thing I find weird is labelling it “trans story time” Why not just story time and let whoever read a story Totally agree - it’s all about inclusivity "I'm just asking what's it all about | |||
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"Some say it's grooming
I don't know. "Why don’t you just say what you want to say, with your chest, instead of dropping crumbs hoping someone else will say it for you | |||
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"Some say it's grooming
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"Some say it's grooming
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Why don’t you just say what you want to say, with your chest, instead of dropping crumbs hoping someone else will say it for you "That's very judgmental & shows ignorance in a person 
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"They read stories to kids. I’m failing to see the issue?. " Then that's alright then  | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ?" No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions? | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions? "The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming?  | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children? "It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children! | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions? "It’s pretty simple really. They go and read books to kids. It’s supposed to be fun and inclusive. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming? "I dunno ? | |||
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It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!"Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo? | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!"Sounds wonderful & tranquil | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo? "I'm all ears | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X" At what age did you discuss it with her? | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo? "Absolutely not! Where did I say that??? You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics.... Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!! | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming?
I dunno ? "Well clearly you do. You started a thread designed to enrage,you say it's for discussion purposes yet shout down every response. I genuinely don't get the point you are making OP. A discussion is a discussion carried out in an open minded way and to allow people who have opposing opinions to talk in a grown up and educated way. This however doesn't seem to be the case. | |||
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"The article in the right wing rag is about drag story time. Nothing to do with trans people. " | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. " The stupid thing is labelling it as “trans story time” which will actually make people MORE bigoted than if you just made it a regular story time with no mention of the persons gender. I say this as a person who’s a minority myself - I absolutely HATED with a passion any time my skin colour was mentioned, or anyone’s skin colour, because all it did was make me feel like I was not the same as everyone else, and also created a feeling amongst everyone that there is “normal” vs “different”. This even happens now as an adult, where recently I had a well-meaning friend apologise to me about my skin colour. Wtf? And the same will apply to trans etc. Just accept them as people without making a big deal out of it. Basically singling out and highlight differences simply enforces the idea that anyone who doesn’t fit the norm is odd and needs special attention and support. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming?
I dunno ? "I don’t believe you. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming?
I dunno ?
Well clearly you do.
You started a thread designed to enrage,you say it's for discussion purposes yet shout down every response.
I genuinely don't get the point you are making OP.
A discussion is a discussion carried out in an open minded way and to allow people who have opposing opinions to talk in a grown up and educated way.
This however doesn't seem to be the case.
"How have I shouted down anyone
I only asked what's it all about
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"The article in the right wing rag is about drag story time. Nothing to do with trans people. " This | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming?
I dunno ?
I don’t believe you. "That's OK - that's freedom of expression isn't it | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X At what age did you discuss it with her?" That's the sad thing never! She came to me at age 17/18 I had not an inkling! Which made me feel awfull! I feel I should have known! X | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. The stupid thing is labelling it as “trans story time” which will actually make people MORE bigoted than if you just made it a regular story time with no mention of the persons gender. I say this as a person who’s a minority myself - I absolutely HATED with a passion any time my skin colour was mentioned, or anyone’s skin colour, because all it did was make me feel like I was not the same as everyone else, and also created a feeling amongst everyone that there is “normal” vs “different”. This even happens now as an adult, where recently I had a well-meaning friend apologise to me about my skin colour. Wtf? And the same will apply to trans etc. Just accept them as people without making a big deal out of it. Basically singling out and highlight differences simply enforces the idea that anyone who doesn’t fit the norm is odd and needs special attention and support." Thank you for your input. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
The misconceptions like how it’s somehow grooming?
I dunno ?
Well clearly you do.
You started a thread designed to enrage,you say it's for discussion purposes yet shout down every response.
I genuinely don't get the point you are making OP.
A discussion is a discussion carried out in an open minded way and to allow people who have opposing opinions to talk in a grown up and educated way.
This however doesn't seem to be the case.
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"The article in the right wing rag is about drag story time. Nothing to do with trans people. This "Aren't Trans & Drag often linked? | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!! "I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous. You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was. And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school. Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender. Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X At what age did you discuss it with her? That's the sad thing never! She came to me at age 17/18 I had not an inkling! Which made me feel awfull! I feel I should have known! X"  | |||
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"The article in the right wing rag is about drag story time. Nothing to do with trans people. This
Aren't Trans & Drag often linked? "In the way cheese and gravity are? | |||
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"The article in the right wing rag is about drag story time. Nothing to do with trans people. This
Aren't Trans & Drag often linked?
In the way cheese and gravity are? "Clear and obvious links | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X At what age did you discuss it with her? That's the sad thing never! She came to me at age 17/18 I had not an inkling! Which made me feel awfull! I feel I should have known! X" I didn’t come out as gay to my parents until my 30s. Don’t beat yourself up, she may not have felt ready to talk, or knew how and what she wanted to say anyway | |||
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"The article in the right wing rag is about drag story time. Nothing to do with trans people. This
Aren't Trans & Drag often linked?
In the way cheese and gravity are? "I don't know. | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X At what age did you discuss it with her? That's the sad thing never! She came to me at age 17/18 I had not an inkling! Which made me feel awfull! I feel I should have known! X I didn’t come out as gay to my parents until my 30s. Don’t beat yourself up, she may not have felt ready to talk, or knew how and what she wanted to say anyway "Hugs* all round | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little "So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word? 'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive. | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive. "Thank you for your input. I'm still none the wiser  ... (Maybe cos I'm a bit dumb?) | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X At what age did you discuss it with her? That's the sad thing never! She came to me at age 17/18 I had not an inkling! Which made me feel awfull! I feel I should have known! X I didn’t come out as gay to my parents until my 30s. Don’t beat yourself up, she may not have felt ready to talk, or knew how and what she wanted to say anyway "Thank u! Having aspergers probably didn't help! Happy to say she is happy in herself now! Married and living in florida! But of course gets the bigoted people occasionally! But am so very proud of her and how she has handled her journey! All the very best to u xx | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X At what age did you discuss it with her? That's the sad thing never! She came to me at age 17/18 I had not an inkling! Which made me feel awfull! I feel I should have known! X I didn’t come out as gay to my parents until my 30s. Don’t beat yourself up, she may not have felt ready to talk, or knew how and what she wanted to say anyway
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"Wouldn’t phase me I was raised with Dame Edna and Lilly Savage " And don't forget Hinge and Bracket. I'm fairly certain that back in history, males played female roles in plays as women weren't allowed on stage? | |||
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I don't know. "How?! So a man or women telling a story is ok but a trans person means it's grooming?! What planet are people on, I mean come on! Ridiculous. Mrs | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. The stupid thing is labelling it as “trans story time” which will actually make people MORE bigoted than if you just made it a regular story time with no mention of the persons gender. I say this as a person who’s a minority myself - I absolutely HATED with a passion any time my skin colour was mentioned, or anyone’s skin colour, because all it did was make me feel like I was not the same as everyone else, and also created a feeling amongst everyone that there is “normal” vs “different”. This even happens now as an adult, where recently I had a well-meaning friend apologise to me about my skin colour. Wtf? And the same will apply to trans etc. Just accept them as people without making a big deal out of it. Basically singling out and highlight differences simply enforces the idea that anyone who doesn’t fit the norm is odd and needs special attention and support." I agree 100%. Which is the best headline to try and get rid of racism….. 1. A man has been shot in London 2. A man has been shot in London by armed police 3. A black man has been shot in London by armed police 4. A black man has been shot in London by a white police officer 5. A gay black male has been shot in London by a white police officer 6. A gay black male has been shot by a white heterosexual policeman. Every one of those statements comes from a different place and has a different agenda I was about 8 when the first black boy came to my school. I’d seen black people before obviously, but not in school. We kinda became friends but I think it was because most of the kids didn’t like either of us. White middle class area and I was the loner who didn’t make friends easily and didn’t like football. I remember thinking at the time that he looked different, but we played the same games etc. we weren’t different to each other but we looked it. My sister married a mixed race man and my first discussions about racism were with his daughter from a previous relationship who was the same age as me. She thought all white people were racist. She expected me to be racist because I was white. Pre conceived ideas will always be around, on both sides of the many divides, no matter how much you might want to change them. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try of course. | |||
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"Oh no, not at all... more like YOU are looking for something to be triggered & then kick off about it, it makes you feel powerful." Who's this addressed to mate? | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. " that's the problem they can't walk away if a parent doesn't want their children to be taught about said subject there rights should be taken but some schools don't tell the parents so they can make a judgement. | |||
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"Some say it's grooming
I don't know.
How?! So a man or women telling a story is ok but a trans person means it's grooming?! What planet are people on, I mean come on!
Ridiculous.
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"Why does it matter what gender the person reads the story is? If anything, the only thing I find weird is labelling it “trans story time” Why not just story time and let whoever read a story Totally agree - it’s all about inclusivity "what if some don't want to be included | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. that's the problem they can't walk away if a parent doesn't want their children to be taught about said subject there rights should be taken but some schools don't tell the parents so they can make a judgement." You mean parents can’t opt out of teaching their kids about trans people? | |||
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"How are you supposed to find any wisdom in amongst all that bullshit??.. I don't blame you for feeling confused, no-onenoffered a content argument, it just all mad ramblings by the mentally ill." Mentally ill? That's discriminatory language there | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions? "Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions... | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions..."I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass. "Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people . | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. that's the problem they can't walk away if a parent doesn't want their children to be taught about said subject there rights should be taken but some schools don't tell the parents so they can make a judgement." Very complicated subject that, far too complicated for the fav forums. How much power do we give the state to teach children things without the parents consent/knowledge | |||
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"Wouldn’t phase me I was raised with Dame Edna and Lilly Savage And don't forget Hinge and Bracket. I'm fairly certain that back in history, males played female roles in plays as women weren't allowed on stage?" Hinge and Bracket are probably before my time but yes men played women’s rolls for century’s in entertainment | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people ."Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful  | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful "Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about."I've only asked a question? Read it again, no rhetoric from I  | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about."Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature. | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children? "I would be more worried about bigoted story time for young children. About anybody with so much hate in their heart that they can take something like people wearing fancy dress while they read out stories to children, and use it to insinuate vile things about a completely different section of society. | |||
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I would be more worried about bigoted story time for young children. About anybody with so much hate in their heart that they can take something like people wearing fancy dress while they read out stories to children, and use it to insinuate vile things about a completely different section of society."Applying bigoted are you implying they are unreasonably attached to a belief | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children? "Or it's just story time... I fail to see the issue. I don't think anyone is gonna become trans because they were read a story by a trans person. And if they did...so what? | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature."Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks.... | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks...."You are very welcome | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children? "If you are referring to drag-time story hour in America, I think it sounds fun and wouldn't have a problem taking my kids to it. Perforners dressed in outrageous costumes telling stories? What's not to like. Naturally the right wing in America is up in arms about this because people shouldn't be free to make their own decisions when it comes to decisions they don't agree with. They love talking about freedom but really they are authoritarians who won't move with the times. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome "And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find. You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming? | |||
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"Certainly not grooming imo! Wish my daughter had this information at a young age! Maybe would have saved her alot of heartache growing up! Saved her from cutting her arms/contemplating suicide! Saved her turmoil when she didn't understand why she felt the way she did growing up! X" Totally agree, knoweldge is way more powerful than bigotted ignorance. Some of us lived through hell at school being bullied and called a sissy when I didn't even know what that was at 11. It took me until my 40's to disocover and be comfortable with what I am even though I still live happily as a male. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?"I'm not sure what my take on it is. | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive. "Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is. "Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind.. Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me."You can't keep away. | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive.
Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself. "Absolutely no need for that! I responded to your questions. It is not I with an issue | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away. "Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go..... | |||
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"Very complicated subject that, far too complicated for the fav forums. How much power do we give the state to teach children things without the parents consent/knowledge " People seem to want the state to teach other peoples kids stuff because other parents don’t teach what they want taught, but opt out themselves because they don’t want the state telling them want to do with their own kids. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go..... "That's meant to be a dig isn't it. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it. "No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that... | |||
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"Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature." Sometimes, but asking if I should have another coffee is rhetorical, but certainly doesn’t challenge anyone lol | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that..."You've hurt my feelings | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
You've hurt my feelings
Unfortunately your feelings are not my responsibility. Could ask yourself a rhetorical question, as to why?. "... Because you are intellectually superior to I, I now feel inferior | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive.
Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself.
Absolutely no need for that! I responded to your questions. It is not I with an issue "There was clearly a need. I asked you a simple question. You went off on one. I clarified what I meant in case there was confusion. You went off on one. There was clearly no confusion. You either just wanted to be argumentative or you didn’t or couldn’t read what I said. I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being ignorant which left an inability to read. If you’re confirming it’s the other option, so be it. | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive.
Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself.
Absolutely no need for that! I responded to your questions. It is not I with an issue
There was clearly a need. I asked you a simple question. You went off on one. I clarified what I meant in case there was confusion. You went off on one.
There was clearly no confusion.
You either just wanted to be argumentative or you didn’t or couldn’t read what I said. I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being ignorant which left an inability to read. If you’re confirming it’s the other option, so be it. "So be it, I like that.  | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive.
Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself.
Absolutely no need for that! I responded to your questions. It is not I with an issue
There was clearly a need. I asked you a simple question. You went off on one. I clarified what I meant in case there was confusion. You went off on one.
There was clearly no confusion.
You either just wanted to be argumentative or you didn’t or couldn’t read what I said. I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being ignorant which left an inability to read. If you’re confirming it’s the other option, so be it. "How did I go 'off on one' I answered the questions you asked me. Now you are just being obnoxious and abusive, I've said nothing out of turn to you....Absolutely no need for it. You obviously can't engage rationally in a discussion like an adult so I'm not responding to you further. Between your views on this thread and your other gem of a thread tells me all I need to know. Good day to you | |||
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Oh it wasn't for you.
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive.
Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself.
Absolutely no need for that! I responded to your questions. It is not I with an issue
There was clearly a need. I asked you a simple question. You went off on one. I clarified what I meant in case there was confusion. You went off on one.
There was clearly no confusion.
You either just wanted to be argumentative or you didn’t or couldn’t read what I said. I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being ignorant which left an inability to read. If you’re confirming it’s the other option, so be it.
How did I go 'off on one' I answered the questions you asked me.
Now you are just being obnoxious and abusive, I've said nothing out of turn to you....Absolutely no need for it. You obviously can't engage rationally in a discussion like an adult so I'm not responding to you further. Between your views on this thread and your other gem of a thread tells me all I need to know.
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"OP just wants to 'discuss' a made up notion about trans people reading stories to children, has no opinions of his own but 'heard' it's grooming. *yawn* Thank you for your input
Oh it wasn't for you.
Now I'm disappointed
I doubt it.
Judging by your response time this is you living your best life."Living the dream my friend, living the dream! | |||
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"Trans story Time for young children?
It's incredible isn't it? What an amazing way to teach your children about diversity, inclusively and acceptance as well as using it as an opportunity to celebrate each other and our differences
As a Nursery teacher I would love this and so would my Children!
Can I just clarify what you’re saying. Are you saying you want to talk about transgender to a 3yo?
Absolutely not! Where did I say that???
You can teach acceptance, diversity and inclusion without going into dynamics....
Did you never go to the theatre as a child! Pantomime dames etc etc. How is it any different to that! The pantomime dame didn't stand on a stage spouting off about transgender did they!!
I didn’t say you’d said anything. I asked you to clarify what you were saying as it was a little ambiguous.
You said “as a nursery teacher (which is 3-4yo) you would love this”. So I just wanted to know what “this” was.
And no I never went to the theatre as a child. I think my first visit was a panto at the age of about 17-18. Took a couple of my kids to see the Scottish play when they were about 13 cos they were doing it at school.
Theatre is not something that’s every really appealed to me. But I don’t think a bloke dressing up as a woman to play a female role in a play (or the reverse) for a big fat chunk of money is the same as transgender.
Inclusiveness is one of those buzz words that people love to use to try and make people who they feel are not being inclusive, feel bad. See I don’t think that’s very inclusive. But I’m going off topic a little
So how did you get the assumption I wanted to talk to my children about gender reassignment from one word?
'This' meaning I would love someone to come and read a story to my Nursery Children....nothing more nothing less. Stop looking for issues when there really isn't
And the word inclusive is very much a word Ofsted is interested in when they visit. So yes as a setting we need to be inclusive....I think you will find most places and people are also inclusive.
Jesus you have real issues. You definitely need someone to come and read for you because you clearly can’t read yourself.
Absolutely no need for that! I responded to your questions. It is not I with an issue
There was clearly a need. I asked you a simple question. You went off on one. I clarified what I meant in case there was confusion. You went off on one.
There was clearly no confusion.
You either just wanted to be argumentative or you didn’t or couldn’t read what I said. I gave you the benefit of the doubt about being ignorant which left an inability to read. If you’re confirming it’s the other option, so be it.
How did I go 'off on one' I answered the questions you asked me.
Now you are just being obnoxious and abusive, I've said nothing out of turn to you....Absolutely no need for it. You obviously can't engage rationally in a discussion like an adult so I'm not responding to you further. Between your views on this thread and your other gem of a thread tells me all I need to know.
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
You've hurt my feelings
Unfortunately your feelings are not my responsibility. Could ask yourself a rhetorical question, as to why?.
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
You've hurt my feelings
Unfortunately your feelings are not my responsibility. Could ask yourself a rhetorical question, as to why?.
... Because you are intellectually superior to I, I now feel inferior
If that's you're perspective, then that's for you to deal with "I've now learnt - Try To Avoid Direct Confrontation. ... Reiterate Your Need For Action Over Promises. ... Maintain Boundaries. ... Remind Yourself That You Are Not To Blame. ... Don't Accept Their Behavior. ... Acknowledge When You Need Professional Help. ... | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
You've hurt my feelings
Unfortunately your feelings are not my responsibility. Could ask yourself a rhetorical question, as to why?.
... Because you are intellectually superior to I, I now feel inferior
If that's you're perspective, then that's for you to deal with
I've now learnt -
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Reiterate Your Need For Action Over Promises. ...
Maintain Boundaries. ...
Remind Yourself That You Are Not To Blame. ...
Don't Accept Their Behavior. ...
Acknowledge When You Need Professional Help. ..."See there we go that's not such a hard lesson is it, we've both been teachers today, im glad I could be of assistance to you like you were me | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
You've hurt my feelings
Unfortunately your feelings are not my responsibility. Could ask yourself a rhetorical question, as to why?.
... Because you are intellectually superior to I, I now feel inferior
If that's you're perspective, then that's for you to deal with
I've now learnt -
Try To Avoid Direct Confrontation. ...
Reiterate Your Need For Action Over Promises. ...
Maintain Boundaries. ...
Remind Yourself That You Are Not To Blame. ...
Don't Accept Their Behavior. ...
Acknowledge When You Need Professional Help. ...
See there we go that's not such a hard lesson is it, we've both been teachers today, im glad I could be of assistance to you like you were me "Peace be with you my friend. | |||
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"You definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this OP ? No Busy Bees in my bonnet, I just asked what's it all about? Any of the Trans community on Fab may be able to tell me the ethos behind it & clarify the misconceptions?
Challenge your own misconceptions, look into it for yourself, others views and opinions won't help you to clarify your misconceptions...
I've no misconception my brain is a blank canvass.
Well that's bollocks, we all have misconceptions, if you didn't why would you start a thread such as this, you're looking for something from it. And then make some of the comments you've made in response to people .
Just seeking truth. You're very judgmental & that's showing ignorance is a person, disgraceful
Responding to what you've said is not being judgemental, it's just that responding, I'd suggest before you start banding 'terminology' and rhetoric around really know what it is your talking about.
Rhetorical questions are a type of figurative language—they are questions that have another layer of meaning on top of their literal meaning. Because rhetorical questions challenge the listener, raise doubt, and help emphasize ideas, they appear often in songs and speeches, as well as in literature.
Where would I be without this lesson and knowledge that you've imparted on me today, that's right in exactly the same place, as I was already informed as to what a rhetorical question is, but more importantly the context to use them in, I use all sorts of questioning styles for my work, but again thanks....
You are very welcome
And yet your mind is completely blank when it comes to... What was it you were asking again? Sorry I'm a sod for checking my understanding. It's a good way of avoiding misconceptions - I find.
You want the trans community to educate you about the ethos and whether it's grooming?
I'm not sure what my take on it is.
Thats the drawbacks to a blank mind..
Have a look at the psychological concept of 'tabula rasa' and what it says!... just for shits n giggles or to humour me.
You can't keep away.
Unfortunately for you it's an open forum, where I waste vast amounts of my precious time, generally arguing with stupid, but there we go.....
That's meant to be a dig isn't it.
No, but if it landed with you then it landed with you for a reason. Like I said earlier I just reply to your comments. Nothing deeper than that...
You've hurt my feelings
Unfortunately your feelings are not my responsibility. Could ask yourself a rhetorical question, as to why?.
... Because you are intellectually superior to I, I now feel inferior
If that's you're perspective, then that's for you to deal with
I've now learnt -
Try To Avoid Direct Confrontation. ...
Reiterate Your Need For Action Over Promises. ...
Maintain Boundaries. ...
Remind Yourself That You Are Not To Blame. ...
Don't Accept Their Behavior. ...
Acknowledge When You Need Professional Help. ...
See there we go that's not such a hard lesson is it, we've both been teachers today, im glad I could be of assistance to you like you were me
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The 'type' is someone posting right wing culture war talking points to stir shit, and pretending to be innocent when called out on it.
You're not fooling anyone."Harsh | |||
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"Oh look its another Essex Tom. I guess there is no shortage of the type around. What is the 'type'? Are you being a judgemental person essentially means thinking, speaking, or behaving in a manner that reflects a critical and condemnatory point of view. When we are judgmental we are critically nitpicking and finding fault with another person, group of people, idea, or situation. Disgraceful
The 'type' is someone posting right wing culture war talking points to stir shit, and pretending to be innocent when called out on it.
You're not fooling anyone.
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. that's the problem they can't walk away if a parent doesn't want their children to be taught about said subject there rights should be taken but some schools don't tell the parents so they can make a judgement. Very complicated subject that, far too complicated for the fav forums. How much power do we give the state to teach children things without the parents consent/knowledge " the state doesn’t give schools the power to teach their children anything without their knowledge. Schools have a statutory obligation to tell parents exactly what they are taught and when, including example course materials. It is literally enshrined in law they must tell parents. Parents can (and do) withdraw their children from the sex part. Children from some religious communities remove all their children. Weirdly after a presentation to parents a Somali women actually said to me, “Is that all there is? I thought it was all about changing boys into girls.” Some myths are widespread and enduring. | |||
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended" People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action | |||
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"Why not? Do we want our future generations to be bigoted unaccepting narrow minded idiots? If its not your thing then just walk away. that's the problem they can't walk away if a parent doesn't want their children to be taught about said subject there rights should be taken but some schools don't tell the parents so they can make a judgement. Very complicated subject that, far too complicated for the fav forums. How much power do we give the state to teach children things without the parents consent/knowledge the state doesn’t give schools the power to teach their children anything without their knowledge. Schools have a statutory obligation to tell parents exactly what they are taught and when, including example course materials. It is literally enshrined in law they must tell parents. Parents can (and do) withdraw their children from the sex part. Children from some religious communities remove all their children. Weirdly after a presentation to parents a Somali women actually said to me, “Is that all there is? I thought it was all about changing boys into girls.” Some myths are widespread and enduring." I like this informative post. | |||
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action"But what was your question? | |||
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action
But what was your question?"Trans story time, what's it all about. That was it.... | |||
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action"If you're a sensitive soul, I'd suggest the forums aren't the place for you or for your mental health. | |||
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action
But what was your question?
Trans story time, what's it all about.
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action"Do the rules only apply to you then because you were happy to engage with your mate when they were being abusive to me | |||
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"Well this thread is a dumpster fire . As intended People are being very nasty & I only asked a question that was literally half a dozen words & people are twisting the thread & turning it into a witch hunt on moi, I'm a sensitive soul & can't take this treatment. Here's a reminder of forum rules everybody before I have a breakdown.
Don't be personal
Personal attacks against other site users aren't allowed, even if you don't name them. If you've got a problem with someone on the site, block them. If you've got a problem with what someone writes on the forum just skip over their messages or report to admin if you think they need to take action
Do the rules only apply to you then because you were happy to engage with your mate when they were being abusive to me "What are you talking about now? I've no "mates" on Fab?
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Its about drag queens reding stories isnt it? "Yes? What was all the fuss about | |||
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Its about drag queens reding stories isnt it?
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Its about drag queens reding stories isnt it? "I reckon drag queens reading stories would be a shit ton more entertaining than middle aged white men doing it | |||
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You literally said
"Some say it's grooming
I don't know."
There was an emoji too.
Our daughter (6) goes to school with a child who likes to wear clothing typically "belonging" to any gender. He likes to wear makeup for parties and sparkly jackets. Not one child in the class finds this unusual or a fact to question or tease him about. I know for a fact a child presenting like this when I was at primary school would most likely have experienced bullying, unfortunately. Children actually don't care about the gender identity of their friends. They don't care what they wear or what they do as a hobby etc. They just like the PERSON, the child.
My child would have zero issues or questions about a transgender person reading a story. She would likely admire the outfit of a drag queen and want to borrow their sequins.
It is adults who pass on their prejudice to children. The more children see that people are just people, the better the world will be.
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You literally said
"Some say it's grooming
I don't know."
There was an emoji too.
Our daughter (6) goes to school with a child who likes to wear clothing typically "belonging" to any gender. He likes to wear makeup for parties and sparkly jackets. Not one child in the class finds this unusual or a fact to question or tease him about. I know for a fact a child presenting like this when I was at primary school would most likely have experienced bullying, unfortunately. Children actually don't care about the gender identity of their friends. They don't care what they wear or what they do as a hobby etc. They just like the PERSON, the child.
My child would have zero issues or questions about a transgender person reading a story. She would likely admire the outfit of a drag queen and want to borrow their sequins.
It is adults who pass on their prejudice to children. The more children see that people are just people, the better the world will be.
And anyone connecting transgender people or drag queens with grooming are the ones who need help. "Thanks for answering, much appreciated | |||
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"Some say it's grooming
I don't know."
There was an emoji too.
Our daughter (6) goes to school with a child who likes to wear clothing typically "belonging" to any gender. He likes to wear makeup for parties and sparkly jackets. Not one child in the class finds this unusual or a fact to question or tease him about. I know for a fact a child presenting like this when I was at primary school would most likely have experienced bullying, unfortunately. Children actually don't care about the gender identity of their friends. They don't care what they wear or what they do as a hobby etc. They just like the PERSON, the child.
My child would have zero issues or questions about a transgender person reading a story. She would likely admire the outfit of a drag queen and want to borrow their sequins.
It is adults who pass on their prejudice to children. The more children see that people are just people, the better the world will be.
And anyone connecting transgender people or drag queens with grooming are the ones who need help. "That's lovely to read! And yes it's adults who influence their children with their prejudice! X | |||
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I don't know."
There was an emoji too.
Our daughter (6) goes to school with a child who likes to wear clothing typically "belonging" to any gender. He likes to wear makeup for parties and sparkly jackets. Not one child in the class finds this unusual or a fact to question or tease him about. I know for a fact a child presenting like this when I was at primary school would most likely have experienced bullying, unfortunately. Children actually don't care about the gender identity of their friends. They don't care what they wear or what they do as a hobby etc. They just like the PERSON, the child.
My child would have zero issues or questions about a transgender person reading a story. She would likely admire the outfit of a drag queen and want to borrow their sequins.
It is adults who pass on their prejudice to children. The more children see that people are just people, the better the world will be.
And anyone connecting transgender people or drag queens with grooming are the ones who need help.
That's lovely to read! And yes it's adults who influence their children with their prejudice! X"There are also two families who have same sex parents and again, zero issues or questions from the children. All are included in party invites and after school play dates etc etc. The families of all the children in the class are supportive and open minded (including towards my disability needs) and it's genuinely a lovely thing to see. It's sad that some people would read negatively into these things. | |||
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"One could argue the premise of your thread and insinuation of that they are grooming children is a personal attack on all trans people. Trans story time, What's that all about... Where's the insinuation for grooming children? That's very judgmental.
Its about drag queens reding stories isnt it?
Yes? What was all the fuss about "Did you know that drag queens and trans people are not the same thing? | |||
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"One could argue the premise of your thread and insinuation of that they are grooming children is a personal attack on all trans people. Trans story time, What's that all about... Where's the insinuation for grooming children? That's very judgmental.
Did you miss the post about grooming above?
The OP made that post!" | |||
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"Once upon a time .. " .. The End? | |||
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"Some say it's grooming
I don't know.
Who says it’s grooming? How is it grooming?"Certain media outlets & protesters? | |||
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" I reckon drag queens reading stories would be a shit ton more entertaining than middle aged white men doing it "so much for diversity and inclusion. Is there a hierarchy of entertainment where middle aged white men come at the bottom? That’s Michael Rosen fucked! How many children do you think ever experience men of any colour reading to them. It’s not many. Children, especially boys whose reading tends to lag behind girls, need reading role models, not just inclusivity role models. I don’t care who reads to children as long as someone does. | |||
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