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"I think the only common sense we can have in this world is let people live their lives how they want to live it. More love, less judgement." And I agree but you can’t label yourself as something you’re not on a sex site lol it would be a fake profile. It’s no different to a straight guy thinking he is messaging a straight woman to find out it’s a guy. | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol " What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... | |||
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"TV - transvestite TG - Transgender Have you confused the two. Why would a TV be on hormones? This is why fab needs to separate these two very different identities. " Sorry yes a TG but certainly not a female | |||
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"I think the only common sense we can have in this world is let people live their lives how they want to live it. More love, less judgement." Here here | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... " It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t." Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? | |||
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"Somebody once said “ you can identify as a refrigerator if you want to. The problems only start once you try to force the world to confirm your delusion”" Totally agree | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? " It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken  | |||
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"Not sure what good creating a transphobic thread is gonna do. On this site we are part of a community where there are openly trans people like anyone else you have a choice of who/what you’re into and that’s fine. But we certainly shouldn’t be shading anyone. " That wasn’t the point of the post…the point was someone moaning that their “fake” “not true” profile was deleted off this site | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken "They asked a question, it's how discussions move on don't you think? | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken
They asked a question, it's how discussions move on don't you think?"I didn’t realise that something had to impact the OP to be able to start a discussion | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken "A discussion forum yes but not really a place to rinse people. It starts turning into a witch hunt and that isn't fair, not when we only hear one side of what's going on. Life is hard enough, let people do what they do. Acceptance and understanding are traits we could all use more of. | |||
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"I don’t really have too much of a view on it really. Live and let live. Although if there weren’t any genital pics and they had woman on there I think that’s out of order as a straight man could meet them and be wasting his time. That’s deceitful. Saying that, it’s on the other site so why would a straight man be on there? On this site it would maybe be a bit different. " It was on this site, that’s the point of this post, the profile got deleted, there were no cock pics and it was labelled as a woman. But says person is now on the other site slating this site for deleting his profile | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken
They asked a question, it's how discussions move on don't you think?
I didn’t realise that something had to impact the OP to be able to start a discussion "A very strange discussion to start if you are not affected at all. Calls in to question why you would. Is it to express transphobic ideas in an attempt to gain support or is there something else you want from the discussion, just as an example. | |||
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"Fab definitely needs to expand its criteria for genders on here to make things clearer Quite a few trans woman on this site marked down as woman. I wouldn’t be very happy arranging to meet a woman and finding out they’re a trans woman. " Exactly, Thankyou | |||
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"I don’t really have too much of a view on it really. Live and let live. Although if there weren’t any genital pics and they had woman on there I think that’s out of order as a straight man could meet them and be wasting his time. That’s deceitful. Saying that, it’s on the other site so why would a straight man be on there? On this site it would maybe be a bit different. It was on this site, that’s the point of this post, the profile got deleted, there were no cock pics and it was labelled as a woman. But says person is now on the other site slating this site for deleting his profile " Ah right. Sorry didn’t read it properly | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken
They asked a question, it's how discussions move on don't you think?
I didn’t realise that something had to impact the OP to be able to start a discussion
A very strange discussion to start if you are not affected at all. Calls in to question why you would.
Is it to express transphobic ideas in an attempt to gain support or is there something else you want from the discussion, just as an example.
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken
They asked a question, it's how discussions move on don't you think?
I didn’t realise that something had to impact the OP to be able to start a discussion
A very strange discussion to start if you are not affected at all. Calls in to question why you would.
Is it to express transphobic ideas in an attempt to gain support or is there something else you want from the discussion, just as an example.
"Not at all, if you read the rest of my replies you will see what I meant. If a straight guy is happy to be duped then that’s fine | |||
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"Not sure what good creating a transphobic thread is gonna do. On this site we are part of a community where there are openly trans people like anyone else you have a choice of who/what you’re into and that’s fine. But we certainly shouldn’t be shading anyone. " Each to their own in this life I believe we all have the freedom of choice it is the beauty of the society we live in I dont have to agree or confirm those choices but just like opinions we all have them | |||
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"Not sure what good creating a transphobic thread is gonna do. On this site we are part of a community where there are openly trans people like anyone else you have a choice of who/what you’re into and that’s fine. But we certainly shouldn’t be shading anyone. Each to their own in this life I believe we all have the freedom of choice it is the beauty of the society we live in I dont have to agree or confirm those choices but just like opinions we all have them " Same as bumholes, we all have bumholes too! | |||
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"Just been reading a forum post on “the other site” from a TV, he is on hormones, looks nothing like a female, male bone structure of the face, adams apple, has a cock (which he likes to have erect in his pics) but wants to be known and treated as a female. His post was slating fabswingers for closing down his new profile he made as a “woman” are some people really that deluded? He will never be a female, never be able to think like a female and going by his face will never resemble a female. Moaning and moaning that others should come round to his way of thinking and having a go at any guys saying otherwise. Now I’m not against tv’s/cd’s etc each to their own BUT….where is the common sense? " Once upon a time homosexuals were demonised, now it’s trans people, people who want to hate will always find a target. | |||
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"Not sure what good creating a transphobic thread is gonna do. On this site we are part of a community where there are openly trans people like anyone else you have a choice of who/what you’re into and that’s fine. But we certainly shouldn’t be shading anyone. Each to their own in this life I believe we all have the freedom of choice it is the beauty of the society we live in I dont have to agree or confirm those choices but just like opinions we all have them " I agree but what about the choice of the person who thinks they’re meeting a woman without a cock? If someone wants to identify as a woman then that’s their choice but surely it should be in the profile somewhere no?? | |||
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"I think if that person identifies as a female - then we should accept that. They should be open and honest about their situation - from what you have said Im assuming they’re a pre-op transgender woman who has started on a regime of hormones to make the transition from male to female. I think as long as they are open in their profile and give people sufficient information to make an informed decision about whether they want to meet them then that’s perfectly acceptable. If someone just looks at pics - sees boobs and says oooh im meeting her without reading the profile… that’s on them. " Yes this. Although you said it better than me | |||
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"I think the only common sense we can have in this world is let people live their lives how they want to live it. More love, less judgement." This totally  | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t." | |||
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"I am not against any sexual preference, tv’s, cd’s, tg’s etc but what I am against is lying and duping people, I won’t bother creating a forum post again it’s too much hassle " | |||
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"Do you know she was duping people? Perhaps she was very open in her interactions with others that she was transitioning. For me, it's not your worry that men might be duped; it's your stance that no matter what she does, she'll never be a woman. That's the crux of your post right there. It's incedibly insulting. " | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap " | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap "Thankyou, it’s nice to know that someone actually gets it | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap "What bandwagon? People are responding to a post made on a public forum. The issue for me is there is only one side of the story. | |||
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"Leaving aside the gender stuff for a moment, this person has felt an emotive reaction to what they perceive to be unfair treatment …on another site. What do you gain from rubber necking it on here? You don’t believe trans women are women that’s fine, it’s valid as an opinion. But why spotlight their distress on here? " Well said | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap "Perhaps it's this that's giving off transphobic vibes... "He will never be a female, never be able to think like a female and going by his face will never resemble a female" Transitioning is a process. It's a process that doesn't deserve this kind of lack of understanding. It's difficult enough, not least because of how difficult it is to access treatment. | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap
Thankyou, it’s nice to know that someone actually gets it I get what you were saying I just think the way you said it and the wording comes across as offensive. "Which I didn’t mean to sound offensive at all, so for that I will apologise if that’s how it came across | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap
Thankyou, it’s nice to know that someone actually gets it I get what you were saying I just think the way you said it and the wording comes across as offensive.
Which I didn’t mean to sound offensive at all, so for that I will apologise if that’s how it came across "So you apologise for misgendering her and for saying that no matter what she'll never be a woman? | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap
Thankyou, it’s nice to know that someone actually gets it I get what you were saying I just think the way you said it and the wording comes across as offensive.
Which I didn’t mean to sound offensive at all, so for that I will apologise if that’s how it came across
So you apologise for misgendering her and for saying that no matter what she'll never be a woman?"Misgendering? I believe I am right to say the person isn’t a female, there is a cock between the legs, the definition is TG. | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap
Thankyou, it’s nice to know that someone actually gets it I get what you were saying I just think the way you said it and the wording comes across as offensive.
Which I didn’t mean to sound offensive at all, so for that I will apologise if that’s how it came across
So you apologise for misgendering her and for saying that no matter what she'll never be a woman?
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"Misgendering? I believe I am right to say the person isn’t a female, there is a cock between the legs, the definition is TG. " The repeated use of he (or him) in your posts is considered misgendering unless the indervidual has identified with these pronouns. Certainly in a workplace it would be seen as a form of attack/bullying. | |||
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap
Thankyou, it’s nice to know that someone actually gets it I get what you were saying I just think the way you said it and the wording comes across as offensive.
Which I didn’t mean to sound offensive at all, so for that I will apologise if that’s how it came across
So you apologise for misgendering her and for saying that no matter what she'll never be a woman?
Misgendering? I believe I am right to say the person isn’t a female, there is a cock between the legs, the definition is TG.
I think you're confusing gender and biological sex
Hang on a minute what?
Gender and biological sex that's a very dangerous precident to be setting.
What if someone comes along and say's that they are 16 but there are biological age is 40.
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"Some people are born in the wrong body and go through expensive and painful surgery so their outsides match their insides. I don't see why this is so hard for some to understand." Exactly, medical assistance to transition is typically difficult to get, its not the handing out treatment like candy some of the printed media likes to suggest. As far as I know the NHS adult gender clinc waiting lists are by far the worst in the service. Once you start treatment the GPs are meant to assist but many do what ever they can to resist doing so. The medical procedures are painful and requires prolonged ongoing post treatment care by the patient, but from those I know who have gone through them less so than carrying on with the constant body dysmorthia. Other treatments like electrolysis is like getting you face tourtured for an hour or two a week for months. | |||
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"Some people are born in the wrong body and go through expensive and painful surgery so their outsides match their insides. I don't see why this is so hard for some to understand. Exactly, medical assistance to transition is typically difficult to get, its not the handing out treatment like candy some of the printed media likes to suggest. As far as I know the NHS adult gender clinc waiting lists are by far the worst in the service. Once you start treatment the GPs are meant to assist but many do what ever they can to resist doing so. The medical procedures are painful and requires prolonged ongoing post treatment care by the patient, but from those I know who have gone through them less so than carrying on with the constant body dysmorthia. Other treatments like electrolysis is like getting you face tourtured for an hour or two a week for months." The surgery seems not only painful and stressful mentally, it’s an extremely long wait on the NHS to get or incredibly expensive to go private and I feel unbelievably bad for someone suffering to get the medical help they need. The only but I don’t understand is how surgeons can make a man worse at driving | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol What's a straight guy doing on the 'other' site and you said in your OP that he has pics of his Penis so anyone arranging a meet would of already seen it... It was a post about having their profile deleted from this site where he labelled himself as a female which he clearly isn’t. Oh right. And how is this impacting on you? It isn’t, sorry won’t bother commenting in the forum from now on, I thought this was a discussion site on all topics, I must of been mistaken "Quite right. If we only commented on this that affected us directly there wouldn't be many Forum threads. | |||
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"This does raise an interesting question for Fab. Who do they allow to have a female profile (or a male profile for that matter). Anybody who identifies as a female? Obviously in the real world there are gradually rules and definitions being developed (eg in sport related to testerone levels etc.) but here where should the line be drawn and how can that be enforced? I don't know the answer but it is an interesting question. " | |||
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"This does raise an interesting question for Fab. Who do they allow to have a female profile (or a male profile for that matter). Anybody who identifies as a female? Obviously in the real world there are gradually rules and definitions being developed (eg in sport related to testerone levels etc.) but here where should the line be drawn and how can that be enforced? I don't know the answer but it is an interesting question. " Well I guess if the site asked for government issue ID would resolve it ... though many TS like myself have Female passports/driving /Cards. I choose to have TV/TS listed as I find its easier than having female listed . as there Is such a high volume of fake single female profiles on this website, its hard to stand out amongst them I guess .. As a TV/TS and one that looks as I do I am very rare on this site, so it's easier for me to stand out within the bracket . which inturn leads me to get lots of messages / hit rates ... in short it is the path of least resistance at trying to find meets | |||
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I doubt you would have too many issues with getting meets regardless of which category you chose. "What I mean by this is as a TS that has had lots of surgeries / boob jobs/ facial feminisation surgeries etc I have not really come across that many on here that have come along this far so far surgery wise within the fab TV/TS community and those that do the bulk seem to be shall we say meeting for donations ... hopefully more and more will though pop up over the coming years | |||
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I doubt you would have too many issues with getting meets regardless of which category you chose.
What I mean by this is as a TS that has had lots of surgeries / boob jobs/ facial feminisation surgeries etc I have not really come across that many on here that have come along this far so far surgery wise within the fab TV/TS community and those that do the bulk seem to be shall we say meeting for donations ... hopefully more and more will though pop up over the coming years "I get that and the extent of treatment is obvious and impressive, I just hope to get half as good outcomes when I get to mine. | |||
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"Ya know, I bought a Ford Sierra, I stripped it right back, changed the exterior/interior, upgraded the engine, stuck brand new Ferrari stickers on it, cost a fortune. People would look at it with envy, it was a great ride and the pleasure was fun to drive. BUT deep down - the base it was all built on was still a Ford Sierra and nothing would or could change that. With your response - its the same, you find it insilting but deep down you know you can change everything you want but you can never change the fact the person in question was and always will be a Man genetically. Food for thought "But the difference is: It's just a car a collection of nuts bolts and wires. A Trans person is a collection of living breathing part's a sentient being with feeling and thought who has the ability to decide what is the best for them and how they want to be. I'm a man my wife is a woman no-one question's that or force's us to be something which we are not,why shouldn't a trans person be given the same respect and choice? | |||
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"Ya know, I bought a Ford Sierra, I stripped it right back, changed the exterior/interior, upgraded the engine, stuck brand new Ferrari stickers on it, cost a fortune. People would look at it with envy, it was a great ride and the pleasure was fun to drive. BUT deep down - the base it was all built on was still a Ford Sierra and nothing would or could change that. With your response - its the same, you find it insilting but deep down you know you can change everything you want but you can never change the fact the person in question was and always will be a Man genetically. Food for thought "Did your Ford Sierra have feelings and emotions? Did it suffer extreme distress with how it looked outwardly compared to how it felt on the inside? Was it ever suicidal? Did it have years of therapy to try and reconcile the feelings it had? Did it have an actual diagnosis of gender dysphoria? | |||
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"Ya know, I bought a Ford Sierra, I stripped it right back, changed the exterior/interior, upgraded the engine, stuck brand new Ferrari stickers on it, cost a fortune. People would look at it with envy, it was a great ride and the pleasure was fun to drive. BUT deep down - the base it was all built on was still a Ford Sierra and nothing would or could change that. With your response - its the same, you find it insilting but deep down you know you can change everything you want but you can never change the fact the person in question was and always will be a Man genetically. Food for thought " | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. How do we change what we feel?" Many of the trans community try very hard to do this, trying to force themselves to feel 'normal' and live in their assigned at birth gender. Unfortunately it is often a one-way trip to depression and suicide/self harm ideation and has killed many. | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. How do we change what we feel? Many of the trans community try very hard to do this, trying to force themselves to feel 'normal' and live in their assigned at birth gender. Unfortunately it is often a one-way trip to depression and suicide/self harm ideation and has killed many." Exactly this. | |||
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"The car is - yes. But the person driving the car ,,, It's a Ferrari, I'm telling you, it's a ferrari. It's made to look, drive and feel like a ferrari and I'm forcing you to accept its a ferrari... but guess what - I know its not and never will be despite all my blood sweat tears, expense, time, research, assistance, etc etc. The principle still applies. " yes but to the general peon on the street its still a Ferrari going about the roads and no one cares what the driver knows are things is only for them to know | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. How do we change what we feel? Many of the trans community try very hard to do this, trying to force themselves to feel 'normal' and live in their assigned at birth gender. Unfortunately it is often a one-way trip to depression and suicide/self harm ideation and has killed many. I honestly will never understand the pain and distress a trans may feel. I do know the grief with being bi and that process. I would never object to a person's ideology and hope people would accept who, what, whenever. Unfortunately not the case, I believe people have a right to be whom they are but I also believe no one should be forced to accept another person's beliefs. It is a very tough world and its getting harder, "see this is my view on religion , I cant fathom why so many people in this day and age of enlightenment of science /logical understanding/technology still follow these beliefs .. but hey ho if it makes them feel good then crack on Tommy | |||
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"Just been reading a forum post on “the other site” from a TV, he is on hormones, looks nothing like a female, male bone structure of the face, adams apple, has a cock (which he likes to have erect in his pics) but wants to be known and treated as a female. His post was slating fabswingers for closing down his new profile he made as a “woman” are some people really that deluded? He will never be a female, never be able to think like a female and going by his face will never resemble a female. Moaning and moaning that others should come round to his way of thinking and having a go at any guys saying otherwise. Now I’m not against tv’s/cd’s etc each to their own BUT….where is the common sense? " So many new genders now I give up I thought before you were either Arthur or Martha? I dunno, it's so confusing? What would an archaeologist say the gender of the remains if they dig you up in a 1000 years time? I'm going to identify as a Pineapple  | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol I very much agree with this. It's not safe for either of them. It's also a fake profile if the person with a cock and a woman's profile does not make their current situation clear. " Though this day and age who would meet someone blind anyway without having a video/phone chat prior anyway .... well I the real life dating world you would ... On fab I get it that some guys just think with the cock and will go in blind as they are stupid but even so its mind blowing people dont speak to someone first and discuss it there . Stealthing is a bad thing absolutely in meets for trans people. in America its quite fatal often as well , I had 2 trans friends murdered this way picking up guys at clubs and well it got violent when it was found out they had balls .. Generally the biggest risk to a man is just being embarrassed , the risk to the TS is death/violence as a reaction . | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. How do we change what we feel? Many of the trans community try very hard to do this, trying to force themselves to feel 'normal' and live in their assigned at birth gender. Unfortunately it is often a one-way trip to depression and suicide/self harm ideation and has killed many. I honestly will never understand the pain and distress a trans may feel. I do know the grief with being bi and that process. I would never object to a person's ideology and hope people would accept who, what, whenever. Unfortunately not the case, I believe people have a right to be whom they are but I also believe no one should be forced to accept another person's beliefs. It is a very tough world and its getting harder, "Totally disagree with your last point. The world is more accepting than it's ever being, and becoming more comfortable with it year on year | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol I very much agree with this. It's not safe for either of them. It's also a fake profile if the person with a cock and a woman's profile does not make their current situation clear. Though this day and age who would meet someone blind anyway without having a video/phone chat prior anyway .... well I the real life dating world you would ... On fab I get it that some guys just think with the cock and will go in blind as they are stupid but even so its mind blowing people dont speak to someone first and discuss it there . Stealthing is a bad thing absolutely in meets for trans people. in America its quite fatal often as well , I had 2 trans friends murdered this way picking up guys at clubs and well it got violent when it was found out they had balls .. Generally the biggest risk to a man is just being embarrassed , the risk to the TS is death/violence as a reaction . " Exactly. | |||
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"Would any woman on here be offended if just before a meet the guy said “hey just checking, you don’t have a dick or have ever been a man?”" my friend has had this alot as she is masculine looking .. she just flips it back and asks why were you born a woman and now living as a man . ...
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"I think, in a nutshell, the OP was simply expressing their disbelief that said trans person would object to having their profile removed for claiming they were a woman. Given that I once had my profile removed/blanked for claiming I was a woman (I have all the correct bits and pieces) because one of my veris mentioned meeting with my hubby (therefore inferring couple), I’d say that’s pretty fair and consistent from the site admin team. I don’t see anything particularly ‘phobic’ in what OP has written, or see any reason why putting it in the forum is any more or less personally impacting on the OP than any other detritus in here. Some people see a bandwagon and just have to leap " | |||
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yeah one of them got shot in the head in her car and other was beaten so badly into a coma they died "I don't believe you | |||
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"Here's a question? If an archaeologist looks at a human skeleton it's sexed as male or female biologically. If you chop your winky off you are still male? I'm very confused !!! "depending on the degradation of hip / pelvis bones which is why they usually determine skeletal sex from ages past ... though its not always accurate 100% as has been noted before where remains have been thought of as male but turned out female and vice versa, though its quite rare this day and age and with technology getting better I guess it will be easier . a cock is tissue not a bone , as much as men like to say imma put my bone in you  | |||
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yeah one of them got shot in the head in her car and other was beaten so badly into a coma they died
I don't believe you "Its of no significance to me what you believe as you are just merely a random name on a forum engaged in a thread with other random people . Though go use google and look up trans murders in USA Vegas/Texas/LA you will be quite shocked at the statistics over th last 12 years | |||
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"Would any woman on here be offended if just before a meet the guy said “hey just checking, you don’t have a dick or have ever been a man?” my friend has had this alot as she is masculine looking .. she just flips it back and asks why were you born a woman and now living as a man . ...
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Its of no significance to me what you believe as you are just merely a random name on a forum engaged in a thread with other random people .
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Its of no significance to me what you believe as you are just merely a random name on a forum engaged in a thread with other random people .
Though go use google and look up trans murders in USA Vegas/Texas/LA you will be quite shocked at the statistics over th last 12 years
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Its of no significance to me what you believe as you are just merely a random name on a forum engaged in a thread with other random people .
Though go use google and look up trans murders in USA Vegas/Texas/LA you will be quite shocked at the statistics over th last 12 years
US population 331.9 million (2021)
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"I was talking to a really nice guy few nights back I saw that he was a bit more feminine than usual, so out of curiosity I asked what are your pronouns to which he replied she/her. I totally respect people who prefer what pronouns they prefer to be addressed as, she/he was still a genetic male and you can't force others to belive that she/he is other than a genetic male." Thing with pronouns is they really don't come into play in 1 on 1 conversations .. as its either we, you or I , when we use terms like he/she its mostly in a 3rd person term , as in you are talking about the person to someone else . well if I am not present in that conversation how can I be concerned what others say about my gender . plus none refers to themselves in a 3rd person narrative when speaking on themself right | |||
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"Ya know, I bought a Ford Sierra, I stripped it right back, changed the exterior/interior, upgraded the engine, stuck brand new Ferrari stickers on it, cost a fortune. People would look at it with envy, it was a great ride and the pleasure was fun to drive. BUT deep down - the base it was all built on was still a Ford Sierra and nothing would or could change that. With your response - its the same, you find it insilting but deep down you know you can change everything you want but you can never change the fact the person in question was and always will be a Man genetically. Food for thought "Sorry but that's a silly comparison as the car doesn't care what it is. A transgender person has very strong emotions and the suicide rate is very high. | |||
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"Hmm. I saw that post too and the OP was generally told that they shouldn’t make a female profile. But here’s the thing. That person clearly is someone in transition. She, and yes I will use the pronoun she, looks good and is very honest in her profiles. She hides nothing. She clearly is not a TV, but isn’t a natural born woman. There is no category for what she is, so as long as she’s clear, what’s the problem? No one is going to suddenly turn up and find a surprise cock. In fact she’s more honest than those who drop 10 years from their age or forget they’re married. You’ve made this post, purely to cause a bit of outrage and to make yourself the centre of a popular post. I know who I think is the more honourable. " That’s very interesting, you’re implying you’re accepting and tolerant but then decide to tell me why I’ve done something. Just like many other have. Then ignore my explanations and reasoning and go on to tell me what I’m doing and why I’m doing it. Enjoy if that makes you feel good….. I’ll clarify one last time, you can chose to disagree and that’s fine, that’s what a discussion is all about. To simplify…. A male to female trans who by their own admission still has a cock, made a profile on here as a woman. Then in the profile explained their situation. The profile got deleted so it’s clear what the admin think. But that person then went on ***guys and complained about it. They feel they should be able to have a female profile on here. I disagree and opened the topic on here for discussion. It’s nothing to do with their right to call themselves whatever they want. They can, and I agree that that’s right and reasonable. And i wasn’t for one moment suggesting that they wouldn’t explain in a message exchange with a potential meet, and there be a situation where out it plops much to the surprise of the 3rd party. I have no idea what they may or may not say in a private conversation, it’s non of my business. My point was quite simple, should the admin allow a person with a cock to have a female profile on here? Were they right to delete it? Yes you can call yourself anything you want, but they are not a woman and in an environment when fluid gender crops up, why not be 100% open when you’re not 100% through the process of reassignment? Tim hat on, popcorn fetched, knock yourselves out. But I’m identifying as a woman that doesn’t think people who are not women should be able to say they are on a sex hookup site. The Mrs (female) | |||
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"Hmm. I saw that post too and the OP was generally told that they shouldn’t make a female profile. But here’s the thing. That person clearly is someone in transition. She, and yes I will use the pronoun she, looks good and is very honest in her profiles. She hides nothing. She clearly is not a TV, but isn’t a natural born woman. There is no category for what she is, so as long as she’s clear, what’s the problem? No one is going to suddenly turn up and find a surprise cock. In fact she’s more honest than those who drop 10 years from their age or forget they’re married. You’ve made this post, purely to cause a bit of outrage and to make yourself the centre of a popular post. I know who I think is the more honourable. That’s very interesting, you’re implying you’re accepting and tolerant but then decide to tell me why I’ve done something. Just like many other have. Then ignore my explanations and reasoning and go on to tell me what I’m doing and why I’m doing it. Enjoy if that makes you feel good….. I’ll clarify one last time, you can chose to disagree and that’s fine, that’s what a discussion is all about. To simplify…. A male to female trans who by their own admission still has a cock, made a profile on here as a woman. Then in the profile explained their situation. The profile got deleted so it’s clear what the admin think. But that person then went on ***guys and complained about it. They feel they should be able to have a female profile on here. I disagree and opened the topic on here for discussion. It’s nothing to do with their right to call themselves whatever they want. They can, and I agree that that’s right and reasonable. And i wasn’t for one moment suggesting that they wouldn’t explain in a message exchange with a potential meet, and there be a situation where out it plops much to the surprise of the 3rd party. I have no idea what they may or may not say in a private conversation, it’s non of my business. My point was quite simple, should the admin allow a person with a cock to have a female profile on here? Were they right to delete it? Yes you can call yourself anything you want, but they are not a woman and in an environment when fluid gender crops up, why not be 100% open when you’re not 100% through the process of reassignment? Tim hat on, popcorn fetched, knock yourselves out. But I’m identifying as a woman that doesn’t think people who are not women should be able to say they are on a sex hookup site. The Mrs (female) " They'll call you mean names now. | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol " Once arranged to meet a couple and they asked if another woman join us for fun. I agreed and got very disappointed when pre op turned up when I was expecting a biological woman. I would rather if people are honest in first place | |||
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"What’s a straight guy going to do if he arranges a meet with this person then realises there is a cock in between the legs lol Once arranged to meet a couple and they asked if another woman join us for fun. I agreed and got very disappointed when pre op turned up when I was expecting a biological woman. I would rather if people are honest in first place "Very colourful | |||
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"Have you posted this same thread on the other site OP? So the person you are talking about can give you their opinion?" Having checked, no they haven’t. The person in question also mentioned in that post they had deleted their profile here… | |||
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"Somebody once said “ you can identify as a refrigerator if you want to. The problems only start once you try to force the world to confirm your delusion”" Well said.. truth!! | |||
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"I am not against any sexual preference, tv’s, cd’s, tg’s etc but what I am against is lying and duping people, I won’t bother creating a forum post again it’s too much hassle " Arww did it not go the way you wanted. Transphobic posts rarely do. Mrs | |||
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"I am not against any sexual preference, tv’s, cd’s, tg’s etc but what I am against is lying and duping people, I won’t bother creating a forum post again it’s too much hassle Arww did it not go the way you wanted. Transphobic posts rarely do. Mrs " How's it Transphobic? | |||
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"Somebody once said “ you can identify as a refrigerator if you want to. The problems only start once you try to force the world to confirm your delusion” Well said.. truth!!" Well said? | |||
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"Just been reading a forum post on “the other site” from a TV, he is on hormones, looks nothing like a female, male bone structure of the face, adams apple, has a cock (which he likes to have erect in his pics) but wants to be known and treated as a female. His post was slating fabswingers for closing down his new profile he made as a “woman” are some people really that deluded? He will never be a female, never be able to think like a female and going by his face will never resemble a female. Moaning and moaning that others should come round to his way of thinking and having a go at any guys saying otherwise. Now I’m not against tv’s/cd’s etc each to their own BUT….where is the common sense? " Sorry, but what exactly does it have to do you with you, it doesn't affect yoyr life in any way shape or form, wheres the ethos of live n let live in this... | |||
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"I am fortunate that living in UK as a trans woman there is less fatal violence towards people like me , but as many of my friends are American and I spend alot of time in USA . it's a very different ball game over there with it ... as its much more heated issue . " It really is ! My daughter lives in florida! I literally fear for her life! Wish she would come home to the UK! But she has made her life there so I have to accept that and hope for the best x | |||
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"Just been reading a forum post on “the other site” from a TV, he is on hormones, looks nothing like a female, male bone structure of the face, adams apple, has a cock (which he likes to have erect in his pics) but wants to be known and treated as a female. His post was slating fabswingers for closing down his new profile he made as a “woman” are some people really that deluded? He will never be a female, never be able to think like a female and going by his face will never resemble a female. Moaning and moaning that others should come round to his way of thinking and having a go at any guys saying otherwise. Now I’m not against tv’s/cd’s etc each to their own BUT….where is the common sense? Sorry, but what exactly does it have to do you with you, it doesn't affect yoyr life in any way shape or form, wheres the ethos of live n let live in this..." Oooh.... | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. " Could you define what a woman is please? | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please?" An adult female human being | |||
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"The owner cares, also the potential new owner, Aka, the person whom is and the prospective person dating!! It's a metaphore - jeeeeez, open you mind!!!!! " this is what *they* do - try to twist & confuse. You’ve made your points perfectly | |||
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"Somebody once said “ you can identify as a refrigerator if you want to. The problems only start once you try to force the world to confirm your delusion” Well said.. truth!!" Weird, because a whole raft of medical & psychological professionals are certain that my son's gender dysphoria is not a delusion. | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being "Try again. | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
Try again."A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, one is referred to as a girl. Typically, women inherit a pair of X chromosomes, one from each parent, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. | |||
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"Have you posted this same thread on the other site OP? So the person you are talking about can give you their opinion? Having checked, no they haven’t. The person in question also mentioned in that post they had deleted their profile here…" Mentioned they had deleted their original profile as a Tv/cd and then created another as a “female” and had that deleted. | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
Try again.
A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, one is referred to as a girl.
Typically, women inherit a pair of X chromosomes, one from each parent, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. "Agreed your not a woman or female Out of respect your a trans female Or a a trans woman Biologicaly your a man socially your considered a woman by some | |||
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"Yes a woman can be anything they want... But - a female is one created/born with a XX chromosome and as such usually has the reproductive associated with child birth! Aka what a dumb question ! " damn auto correct lol | |||
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"Somebody once said “ you can identify as a refrigerator if you want to. The problems only start once you try to force the world to confirm your delusion” ." Or when somebody tries shoving cartons of milk, tubs of margarine and an oven ready chicken up your arse. | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?"I'll copy & paste what I said before. A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, one is referred to as a girl. Typically, women inherit a pair of X chromosomes, one from each parent, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. | |||
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" I had 2 trans friends murdered this way picking up guys at clubs and well it got violent when it was found out they had balls .. Really "Years ago the badge of honour used to be knowing someone who had died from AIDS. | |||
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Years ago the badge of honour used to be knowing someone who had died from AIDS."“Badge of honour”? | |||
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Years ago the badge of honour used to be knowing someone who had died from AIDS."Times change mate | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?"Do you honestly believe genetically a woman can be anything other than a woman! Or a man genetically other than a man?, Hence anyone whom decides to go through the process is a "Trans" and will always be a "Trans". | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?
Do you honestly believe genetically a woman can be anything other than a woman! Or a man genetically other than a man?,
Hence anyone whom decides to go through the process is a "Trans" and will always be a "Trans".
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?
I'll copy & paste what I said before.
A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, one is referred to as a girl.
Typically, women inherit a pair of X chromosomes, one from each parent, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause.
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"There’s some bloody ridiculous analogies on here! Fridges, cars!! We are talking about people. What the actual fuck" This is a thread where apparently knowing people who died a horrific death from an incurable disease was once a badge of honour. Fab has reached a new low. | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?
Do you honestly believe genetically a woman can be anything other than a woman! Or a man genetically other than a man?,
Hence anyone whom decides to go through the process is a "Trans" and will always be a "Trans".
"A woman isn’t a genetic or medical term, it’s a social term. So genetically a woman can be a great number of things. What is known by science changes, the meaning of words change (girl, for instance, was the word used to describe male and female children up until a few hundred years ago.) There is so much we don’t yet know, or is too complex for us to comprehend, so we simplify it. I just think it is dangerous to say things like ‘facts are facts’ when the things considered to be facts a century ago are now known to be false, or incomplete at best. 1.7% of the population are born intersex, that’s about the same percentage as people with green eyes. How many people do you think we knew were born intersex 100 years ago? | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?
I'll copy & paste what I said before.
A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, one is referred to as a girl.
Typically, women inherit a pair of X chromosomes, one from each parent, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause.
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"TV's are not women and never will be women, you can remove what you like, it doesn't change the Chromosones you were born with. TV's should be okay with them being know as TV's or (TGirls or whatever but not women) and that's it, it's their choice to change who they are. It seems most TV's tend to be men who want to change their sex and few women wanting to do the same, feel free to do so. But, do TV's ever concider, that from a real womans (now renamed as cisgender woman or ciswoman, to clarify born female) of view that they may not wish to be associated with males in essence playing females and find this uncomfortable or even offensive? It's not woman's choice to be associated with someone of the opposite sex transitioning, do TV's ask women how they feel about what essentially is a male posing as a female? Having to share facilities with people who are not women? In the last year TV's seem to be all over fab, as once gay men where, and who now have their own site fabguys. Should TV's have the same type of site just for themselves (fabTV's) which would be for TV's to meet people just looking for that gender?" At last someone with my way of thinking Thankyou, that’s spot on | |||
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"Somehow, I think you're missing the metaphor, Regardless of it being a non living or living item. Facts are facts. I'm not against anyone's choice, but we cannot change our genetics, we can only change what makes us "feel" what we believe. Could you define what a woman is please? An adult female human being
So you believe that a person cannot be a woman unless your defined sex at birth is female?
Do you honestly believe genetically a woman can be anything other than a woman! Or a man genetically other than a man?,
Hence anyone whom decides to go through the process is a "Trans" and will always be a "Trans".
A woman isn’t a genetic or medical term, it’s a social term. So genetically a woman can be a great number of things. What is known by science changes, the meaning of words change (girl, for instance, was the word used to describe male and female children up until a few hundred years ago.)
There is so much we don’t yet know, or is too complex for us to comprehend, so we simplify it. I just think it is dangerous to say things like ‘facts are facts’ when the things considered to be facts a century ago are now known to be false, or incomplete at best.
1.7% of the population are born intersex, that’s about the same percentage as people with green eyes. How many people do you think we knew were born intersex 100 years ago?"Green eyes, interesting, I like being in the minority | |||
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