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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit " Oh SHNAP. To be fair if I had to pay anymore for this site I would....decline. and leave. Wasn't anything else to say there really was there | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought " Yes disgraceful! I usually buddy up with someone as the ones near me women are free couples are think e0 ish and single men 50ish! Not fair! And as I don't drive I pay the entrance as they driving me there win win x | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit " It would be if such things happened.. | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought " Do you have an alternative suggestion that would keep clubs funded and help balance the men:women ratio? | |||
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"I actually posted this on another thread today. Women who attend swingers club may well have paided to get hair/nails/body wax for the event. They spend probably 4xs the single man entrance fee on treatments,lingerie, make up outfit and heels. Often the lingerie is lost or damaged during the evening. Most (not all) single guys rock up in a polo shirt and jeans and just pop their cocks out of their flies as they follow the women around wanking. " I don't mind paying. I generally dress up and prefer that it's not a sausage fest. I'm an older gentleman, so I like a chat first | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit " Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism As for the clubs, it’s a private club, no covered under the equality act I believe | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought " Supply and demand tho. The beauty of a free market economy. But please feel free to challenge this one legally through the courts. | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit It would be if such things happened.." They do | |||
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"I actually posted this on another thread today. Women who attend swingers club may well have paided to get hair/nails/body wax for the event. They spend probably 4xs the single man entrance fee on treatments,lingerie, make up outfit and heels. Often the lingerie is lost or damaged during the evening. Most (not all) single guys rock up in a polo shirt and jeans and just pop their cocks out of their flies as they follow the women around wanking. " So true also the time consuming can’t just jump in a shower and go It’s like a day and hafe or so prep time before the event | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit " Which jobs are these? | |||
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"Not all clubs overcharge men, but as said above it is supply and demand because of the volume of men to the volume of women. I think the issue I have with charging men more is the entitlement it can give, some men do have the attitude of thinking that sex should be a right because they've paid " | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought Do you have an alternative suggestion that would keep clubs funded and help balance the men:women ratio? " Membership and entry by reservation only | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit It would be if such things happened.. They do" I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women. If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects. | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought " I like this post. | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit " Because a woman's job is never done? | |||
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"Not all clubs charge men much more. Also, applying exactly the same logic that there should not be gender-based charges, look at hair cuts. Men go in looking all ragged, come out looking great and pay a tenner, maybe a bit more. Women go in and come out looking almost exactly the same and pay through the nose. Should we get equal charges here? And yes, I do know that female hairdressers normally use more products. " Not really a great example because women’s cuts tend to be more challenging, take longer and as you said, use more product Nothing is stopping women going to the Turkish and getting a high fade for £12 | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought " Yes but to make a profit its the only way, they have to charge less for women to make it attractive for them to go, do you want a club full of all men? Then the price would come down | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism " No she was awarded a Nobel prize for proving that there IS a gender pay gap. "Harvard economist Claudia Goldin has been awarded the Nobel Prize in economics for her work examining the gender pay gap. Goldin, 77, was recognised for her research showing that women are paid less than men on average despite having higher education levels and that most of the gap appears after childbirth." (source: Al Jazeera) | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit It would be if such things happened.. They do I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women. If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects." I really really really wish that men would do just the modicum of reading before starting on this topic. The gender pay gap is NOT about women earning less doing the precise same job as a male counterpart as ...of course ....that is illegal now. It's about structural sexism. | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit It would be if such things happened.. They do I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women. If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects. I really really really wish that men would do just the modicum of reading before starting on this topic. The gender pay gap is NOT about women earning less doing the precise same job as a male counterpart as ...of course ....that is illegal now. It's about structural sexism. " “ She ultimately concludes that the current wage gap is predominantly due to the impact of having children” Seems it’s more about choices made, not sexism | |||
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" Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism " What about male and female footballers ? | |||
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" Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism What about male and female footballers ?" They have the fraction of the viewership and revenue, and get paid accordingly Millions of men fill stadiums every week to watch other men play football and buy football related products. Once women start filling stadiums for the woman’s games I’m sure the pay will catch up | |||
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? " Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it | |||
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" Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism What about male and female footballers ? They have the fraction of the viewership and revenue, and get paid accordingly Millions of men fill stadiums every week to watch other men play football and buy football related products. Once women start filling stadiums for the woman’s games I’m sure the pay will catch up " I totally agree with you. I was just giving it as an example that in some professions unequal pay certainly does exist so I'm suprised this woman got a Nobel Prize | |||
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" Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism What about male and female footballers ? They have the fraction of the viewership and revenue, and get paid accordingly Millions of men fill stadiums every week to watch other men play football and buy football related products. Once women start filling stadiums for the woman’s games I’m sure the pay will catch up I totally agree with you. I was just giving it as an example that in some professions unequal pay certainly does exist so I'm suprised this woman got a Nobel Prize" She’s not saying the gender gap doesn’t exist, she’s dismissed the idea that it’s largely based on sexism and is instead largely based around choices made about children For the longest time it’s been said women get paid less got the same job because of sexism and slowly the evidence has been showing otherwise | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought " We as a couple actually agree with you.. I as a male wouldn't entertain the entrance fee if I was a single male and the wife wouldn't freeload to get in if she was a single fem, she likes to pay her way. | |||
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men " So people here are whining about £10 to £30 for the opportunity to scratch their itch? Christ on a dildo. I hate humans. | |||
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it " Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership. | |||
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership. " So that’s £17.50 each for the couple, not closer to the single guys rate Do they apply the same cost to any couple? I get the feeling 2 guys might get charged as 2 singles instead of a couple | |||
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"Paying over the odds to enter a club for a chance to be called a wanker. Me thinks not." My local club Quest charges single men £20 for daytime and £25 evenings except Greedy Girls events are £30. I don't consider that extortionate | |||
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership. So that’s £17.50 each for the couple, not closer to the single guys rate Do they apply the same cost to any couple? I get the feeling 2 guys might get charged as 2 singles instead of a couple " I'm afraid for the purpose of swingers club entry, a "couple" is defined as a man and a woman. But I'd guess some clubs or events may consider a "couple" a man and a TV? | |||
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"Yeah true that. Bit like paying women less in jobs innit It would be if such things happened.. They do I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women. If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects. I really really really wish that men would do just the modicum of reading before starting on this topic. The gender pay gap is NOT about women earning less doing the precise same job as a male counterpart as ...of course ....that is illegal now. It's about structural sexism. “ She ultimately concludes that the current wage gap is predominantly due to the impact of having children” Seems it’s more about choices made, not sexism " She analysed 200 years of data. Looked at the structural reasons that exist which perpetuate a gender pay gap. Won the Nobel Prize for Economics. But Wokingham on Fab has all the answers. | |||
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership. So that’s £17.50 each for the couple, not closer to the single guys rate Do they apply the same cost to any couple? I get the feeling 2 guys might get charged as 2 singles instead of a couple I'm afraid for the purpose of swingers club entry, a "couple" is defined as a man and a woman. But I'd guess some clubs or events may consider a "couple" a man and a TV? " In that case I’ll just identify as a woman for the day Still don’t think I’ll work | |||
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it" I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming. | |||
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought Do you have an alternative suggestion that would keep clubs funded and help balance the men:women ratio? " Clubs obviously need income and guys want to go because of the prospect of single ladies and couples. I suppose you could limit the number of single men and make this list exclusive. Charge everyone the same with the hope single ladies and couples will pay more for an environment with favorable ratios and hope of a better quality of etiquette, behaviour and quality. However I don't see how fixing the ratio will help the situation for the majority of single guys as they find themselves either excluded due to numbers or still paying the say if they get on the list? Not a situation we'd favour btw, just playing devil's advocate. | |||
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming." It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently. So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't. | |||
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"Paying over the odds to enter a club for a chance to be called a wanker. Me thinks not. My local club Quest charges single men £20 for daytime and £25 evenings except Greedy Girls events are £30. I don't consider that extortionate" To be fair Club Uniquez (formally Amigos) Leicester City Centre has always had fairly even pricing since its been open. Currently £10 membership for all Entry price: (Afternoon until 4pm) M/F Couples: £10 Females: £3 Men: £10 TV/TS: £10 . Entry price: (Evenings 4pm onwards) M/F Couples: £12 Females: £5 Men: £15 TV/TS: £15 Which fairly reasonable for all really. | |||
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming. It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently. So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't." Absolutely, the question is how many good quality guys are going to be put off at £50 entry fee vs desperate creepy guys put off by it? I’d guess quality guts don’t need to pay £50 to get a chance to get laid and so won’t, where as desperate creepy guys are desperate and will take the hit to their wallet If your a good looking dude with some decent chat you can get laid in spoons with zero entry fee | |||
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming. It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently. So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't. Absolutely, the question is how many good quality guys are going to be put off at £50 entry fee vs desperate creepy guys put off by it? I’d guess quality guts don’t need to pay £50 to get a chance to get laid and so won’t, where as desperate creepy guys are desperate and will take the hit to their wallet If your a good looking dude with some decent chat you can get laid in spoons with zero entry fee" | |||
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"Paying over the odds to enter a club for a chance to be called a wanker. Me thinks not." 'The wanking dead', surely? | |||
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming. It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently. So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't. Absolutely, the question is how many good quality guys are going to be put off at £50 entry fee vs desperate creepy guys put off by it? I’d guess quality guts don’t need to pay £50 to get a chance to get laid and so won’t, where as desperate creepy guys are desperate and will take the hit to their wallet If your a good looking dude with some decent chat you can get laid in spoons with zero entry fee" Wow! I'm of to spoons tomoz for the pensioners coffee morning! They love them refill coffees! Will look out for anyone getting laid in there! x | |||
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