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"No. Pass me the wine. " What she ^ said haha | |||
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"Yes although I’m cutting back this week" Big love to you. I’ve cut right down. I also went 3 years without drinking after a rough experience. I now don’t drink unless it’s special occasion | |||
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"For some. I have an alcoholic father. I know people that have not gone a weekend without going out or drinking lots at home since the age of fuck knows when I don't drink at all, and I'm not the only one. So depends. Most, majority of people don't drink too much but they drink often. There is a bigger emphasis on you MUST drink though. " I think generally we have a culture on drinking but of course agree Lots of people don’t drink at all | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. I didn’t realise Day drinking was weird until I spoke to people from other countries about drinking " I went to a kids birthday party a while ago and one of my aunties asked if I wanted a shot, A SHOT?! We’re at a kids party ffs | |||
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"Yes although I’m cutting back this week Big love to you. I’ve cut right down. I also went 3 years without drinking after a rough experience. I now don’t drink unless it’s special occasion" I’ve currently nothing better to do so for me it’s finding that something that can occupy my time and distract me from grabbing beers every night | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. I didn’t realise Day drinking was weird until I spoke to people from other countries about drinking I went to a kids birthday party a while ago and one of my aunties asked if I wanted a shot, A SHOT?! We’re at a kids party ffs " Just the one then? | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. I didn’t realise Day drinking was weird until I spoke to people from other countries about drinking I went to a kids birthday party a while ago and one of my aunties asked if I wanted a shot, A SHOT?! We’re at a kids party ffs " An advert for Fife right there | |||
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"Yes although I’m cutting back this week Big love to you. I’ve cut right down. I also went 3 years without drinking after a rough experience. I now don’t drink unless it’s special occasion I’ve currently nothing better to do so for me it’s finding that something that can occupy my time and distract me from grabbing beers every night" yeah that’s the tricky bit I agree | |||
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"We’ve really cut down. Well, I’ve cut down and so Roger has followed suit. We still have the odd boozy event but don’t really drink in the week. Life is better. Definitely feel healthier for it. The UK does promote drinking at social occasions and it’s quite challenging to be a part of that. " I feel like we go to the pub all the time and there’s alcohol at every social event. People get upset if there’s no alcohol at staff parties lmao | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. I didn’t realise Day drinking was weird until I spoke to people from other countries about drinking I went to a kids birthday party a while ago and one of my aunties asked if I wanted a shot, A SHOT?! We’re at a kids party ffs Just the one then? " 2 but that’s beside the point | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. I didn’t realise Day drinking was weird until I spoke to people from other countries about drinking I went to a kids birthday party a while ago and one of my aunties asked if I wanted a shot, A SHOT?! We’re at a kids party ffs " To be fair. As an adult at a kids party, alcohol seems like it would be needed to survive the thing with your sanity in tact! | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. I didn’t realise Day drinking was weird until I spoke to people from other countries about drinking I went to a kids birthday party a while ago and one of my aunties asked if I wanted a shot, A SHOT?! We’re at a kids party ffs To be fair. As an adult at a kids party, alcohol seems like it would be needed to survive the thing with your sanity in tact! " This is very true! | |||
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"Do the British (and Irish) drink to excess? Yes, obviously. But it’s maybe not in the way we usually think. The amount of alcohol we drink is actually around the European average. But we binge drink way more than our neighbouring nations. So we get more d*unk, more often. (Whereas the rest of Europe tends to drink a little booze daily. Moderation is good, y’all.)" I agree with this. We’re all different. I don’t drink much at all but if I go out I drink quite a bit. It might be once a week and then not for a couple of months. I rarely drink at home unless people have come over for dinner etc. | |||
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"Mrs Nice, I think that when I first stopped drinking for the 3 and a bit years was from my final year of uni until last year and I think I said to Lots of my friends, especially at uni and amongst young people it’s so normalised to have alcohol problems and bad relationships with it. Essentially being alcoholics/ binge drinkers. It’s masked by ‘You’re only young once’ ‘this is the best time of our lives’ kind of attitudes and also the idea that being out of control and acting out of character is actually humorous. I think we normales alcohol consumption in young people a lot and it’s scary" Coming home from lectures and drinking with your mates. Going out like 4/5 times a week to the Union or to clubs. Having piss ups in the summer when exams are over. Going to drinks after work. Getting pissed watching the football. Having a bottle of wine with dinner every night. Going drinking at the pub with family during the day. It’s all a lot | |||
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"Mrs Nice, I think that when I first stopped drinking for the 3 and a bit years was from my final year of uni until last year and I think I said to Lots of my friends, especially at uni and amongst young people it’s so normalised to have alcohol problems and bad relationships with it. Essentially being alcoholics/ binge drinkers. It’s masked by ‘You’re only young once’ ‘this is the best time of our lives’ kind of attitudes and also the idea that being out of control and acting out of character is actually humorous. I think we normales alcohol consumption in young people a lot and it’s scary Coming home from lectures and drinking with your mates. Going out like 4/5 times a week to the Union or to clubs. Having piss ups in the summer when exams are over. Going to drinks after work. Getting pissed watching the football. Having a bottle of wine with dinner every night. Going drinking at the pub with family during the day. It’s all a lot " Yes. Often the goal is to get d*unk rather than enjoy the drink and that's the norm for lots of people. Our neighbour gets d*unk most afternoons. One of our previous neighbours would shout "glass of wine darling?" as I walked in her house at 10:30 am. The people the other side were dreadful and even featured in local news media after being arrested at a foreign airport for being d*unk and assaulting security officers. | |||
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"What worries me is the price lol" I agree with you there. | |||
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"Considering we use any and every event as an excuse for a piss up, probably. " Agree. I think alcohol use is too prevalent in this country and the medical sorts agree. | |||
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"I've grown up with alcoholics and seen a lot of casual day drinking in my family. So yes, I think there's a huge problem. I don't like how it's so encouraged and pushed in your face day to day, and I hate the mindset of if you don't have a drink you're a bit of a bore. How much would we really have in common with people we go out to drink with if there was no alcohol involved, especially when we are very young and only go out to get hammered and have a good time? I feel like I've seen so many friendships rely on getting pissed together on a night out and I think that's pretty sad. I'm not sure what the solution is. But there's definitely a problem that needs work." | |||
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" It's so ingrained in the culture though that nothing is going to change" I think it is already changing. The youngsters don't drink like we did at 18. Pubs are closing left right and center and we assume it's because of the price (which is part of it for sure) but also its the generation coming through not carrying on the tradition. | |||
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" It's so ingrained in the culture though that nothing is going to change I think it is already changing. The youngsters don't drink like we did at 18. Pubs are closing left right and center and we assume it's because of the price (which is part of it for sure) but also its the generation coming through not carrying on the tradition. " I think it's changed slightly from pubs to bars and clubs but I reckon the drinking culture is still there | |||
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"Mrs t total. Well I would if I drank tea. I only drink soft drinks. Mr, as he's got older finds he's really cut back natrally. Drinks very little on occasion. Will drink the 00 guiness at home, once a month maybe. " I've always wondered how the 0% Guinness is. I don't drink so haven't tried the original one but don't want to buy it in case I don't like it | |||
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" It's so ingrained in the culture though that nothing is going to change I think it is already changing. The youngsters don't drink like we did at 18. Pubs are closing left right and center and we assume it's because of the price (which is part of it for sure) but also its the generation coming through not carrying on the tradition. " That's price rather than culture. Most of people I know under 25 would rather pre drink for hours at home with friends then go to a club after 10pm. Where's in my younger days we'd start about 4pm, have a few pre drinks, then be in the pub for 6, followed by clubs at booting out time. The 4am opening hours and smoking ban changed pubs and clubs more than anything else. | |||
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" That's price rather than culture. Most of people I know under 25 would rather pre drink for hours at home with friends then go to a club after " I think is becoming more standard with the new 18s than alcohol is | |||
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"When people are shocked after I tell them I don't drink, and never have, other than the odd taste here and there through the years, peer pressure ya know. Genuinely shocked and almost concerned that tells me all I need to know about how ingrained and deep the British culture of alcohol is for my generation and what came before. I know people that still live for their glory days of being out and totally wasted. " I've been told as a teenager that I wasn't a real man if I didn't drink. My response was that it took a bigger man not to. I've been told by a woman in Florida and an Englishman on a training course that I was a pretend Irishman because I didn't drink. Neither were joking and were actually annoyed with me. | |||
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"No it's the other highs that worry me, drug induced psychosis is rife among the youngsters " I’m just as worried about my little brother getting d*unk as I am about him smoking. I think I wish when I was younger someone really looked out for me and told new about the dangers of drinking. I’ve gone out drinking and ended up in hospital and that shit is legal! And nobody stops you! I think the scariest thing about drinking culture for me is that people never grow out of it. In work it’s exactly the same. Scarily normalised. I do agree though other highs are dangerous and rife amongst young people. I just don’t think they’re less dangerous than underage or binge drinking. | |||
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"No it's the other highs that worry me, drug induced psychosis is rife among the youngsters I’m just as worried about my little brother getting d*unk as I am about him smoking. I think I wish when I was younger someone really looked out for me and told new about the dangers of drinking. I’ve gone out drinking and ended up in hospital and that shit is legal! And nobody stops you! I think the scariest thing about drinking culture for me is that people never grow out of it. In work it’s exactly the same. Scarily normalised. I do agree though other highs are dangerous and rife amongst young people. I just don’t think they’re less dangerous than underage or binge drinking. " More dangerous * | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about?" Yes, this is my philosophy (not that it means anything ) Before main stream supermarkets sold cut price alcohol it was only really available from pubs and off licence. These shops had closing times and the prices weren’t much different, so drinking at home didn’t save you much. This meant people generally drank in the pub (in my experience) more than they drank at home. Now however you can go to a shop and get a bottle of vodka for around £18 and a couple of bottles of and have a mega cheap, but excessive night. If supermarkets couldn’t sell alcohol, I think we’d see quite a shift in drinking patterns. | |||
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" alcohol-related liver disease, or brain disease? " This and heart disease would be my gauge. | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about?" Yes definitely, and if you don’t believe me, the biggest litmus test, just go sober for a while, maybe a month, 3 months etc. 1. See how long you can actually do it, for most of us social drinkers there probably wouldn’t be a craving for it, but for some you might find that you depend on it more than you thought 2. Take note of how it affects your social life, and even comments and attitudes towards you. Drinking is part of most social activities these days so if you decide not to drink some people take that as you deciding not to be social, and they’re two different things entirely. This is where you stop getting invites to things cause people think that because you’re not drinking you’ll be boring, or you just won’t enjoy being around everyone else that is drinking. Honestly try it, I’d love to hear from anyone else who’s gone sober for a bit and how it affected their social lives | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about? Yes definitely, and if you don’t believe me, the biggest litmus test, just go sober for a while, maybe a month, 3 months etc. 1. See how long you can actually do it, for most of us social drinkers there probably wouldn’t be a craving for it, but for some you might find that you depend on it more than you thought 2. Take note of how it affects your social life, and even comments and attitudes towards you. Drinking is part of most social activities these days so if you decide not to drink some people take that as you deciding not to be social, and they’re two different things entirely. This is where you stop getting invites to things cause people think that because you’re not drinking you’ll be boring, or you just won’t enjoy being around everyone else that is drinking. Honestly try it, I’d love to hear from anyone else who’s gone sober for a bit and how it affected their social lives " You can hear from me. As I said above I've been teetotal all my life. That has had zero effect on my social life. The negative comments I've received over the years were not from people I was socialising with. All my friends and work colleagues had no issue with me not drinking and on most occasions they wouldn't allow me contribute to the kitty and they always bought my drinks. It's years since I was allowed buy a round. If being sober is affecting your social life maybe its time you looked at who you are socialising with rather than what's in your glass. | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about?" Older generations definitely drink too much but the youngsters seem a lot more sensible about it. If everyone stopped drinking and smoking then we’d soon all be able to get appointments at our GP and the hospital again, that’s for sure. | |||
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" You can hear from me. As I said above I've been teetotal all my life. That has had zero effect on my social life. The negative comments I've received over the years were not from people I was socialising with. All my friends and work colleagues had no issue with me not drinking and on most occasions they wouldn't allow me contribute to the kitty and they always bought my drinks. It's years since I was allowed buy a round. If being sober is affecting your social life maybe its time you looked at who you are socialising with rather than what's in your glass. " I’m glad you shared, even in your earlier those comments about you being a pretend Irishman etc, is just a reflection on how you can be viewed for not drinking and that’s because of the drinking culture that we have. But yes you’re definitely right about the right type of friends still socialising and making sure you have a good time if you go sober. My point was more about people that were previously drinkers deciding to go sober, rather than those who have been sober all their lives. There is an adjustment period where the things I talked about in my original post usually happen and after that, the right friendship groups learn how to socialise with you as a non-drinker. But that adjustment period definitely opens your eyes to just how deep rooted the drinking culture is. | |||
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"I’ve never been part of a drinking culture, spending shit loads on alcohol only to throw it all back up again has never been my thing. I do however enjoy an ice cold Guinness with my dinner most nights. On a yearly basis that means I probably drink more than a lot of people do but I think it’s the way we consume that has the most impact on health and how it changes our behaviour into something that isn’t really acceptable that is the problem. " I see a few mentioning throwing up, I think if I was being sick everything I drank id stop for good. I haven't been sick through drinking since I was about 15. No matter how much I've put away. | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about? Older generations definitely drink too much but the youngsters seem a lot more sensible about it. If everyone stopped drinking and smoking then we’d soon all be able to get appointments at our GP and the hospital again, that’s for sure." Doubt it. I don't smoke and rarely drink but I've had more than my fair share of hospital and GP appointments, as well as operations. | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about? Older generations definitely drink too much but the youngsters seem a lot more sensible about it. If everyone stopped drinking and smoking then we’d soon all be able to get appointments at our GP and the hospital again, that’s for sure. Doubt it. I don't smoke and rarely drink but I've had more than my fair share of hospital and GP appointments, as well as operations. " There are a million hospital admissions each year (in England) where the primary reason or secondary diagnosis are linked to alcohol. That’s nearly 6% of total admissions. In addition there are over half a million smoking related admissions every year (in England). Drinking and smoking are enormous drains on the NHS. | |||
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" Drinking and smoking are enormous drains on the NHS." Add in diabetes which has the largest drain on the NHS. Clearly not only alcoholic related. But both alcohol and smoking contribute heavily towards this | |||
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" Drinking and smoking are enormous drains on the NHS. Add in diabetes which has the largest drain on the NHS. Clearly not only alcoholic related. But both alcohol and smoking contribute heavily towards this " And drinking and smoking when diabetic… | |||
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"I think so. People are so scared of being themselves without a drink that it causes a negative perception of those who don't drink where they're seen as stuffy and boring. It's so ingrained in the culture though that nothing is going to change" Agreed. | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about? Yes definitely, and if you don’t believe me, the biggest litmus test, just go sober for a while, maybe a month, 3 months etc. 1. See how long you can actually do it, for most of us social drinkers there probably wouldn’t be a craving for it, but for some you might find that you depend on it more than you thought 2. Take note of how it affects your social life, and even comments and attitudes towards you. Drinking is part of most social activities these days so if you decide not to drink some people take that as you deciding not to be social, and they’re two different things entirely. This is where you stop getting invites to things cause people think that because you’re not drinking you’ll be boring, or you just won’t enjoy being around everyone else that is drinking. Honestly try it, I’d love to hear from anyone else who’s gone sober for a bit and how it affected their social lives " I don't drink, mainly because I drive myself everywhere but also I hate the feeling of being d*unk. It hasn't affected my social life at all and I can brush off any snide comments from friends of friends or people who don't know me well. My regular friend and colleagues know I don't drink. | |||
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"Whether we like it or not by all scales alcohol is a Class A drug, not just any class a drug, one of the worst available. Kills more than crack, as addictive as heroin and rips and pulls apart more lives than pretty much all other drugs put together, just because it's legal we ignore that. Will I stop drinking it? Will I fuck! " dont forget all the deaths it causes on the roads too | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about?" I think that as a whole this country does drink too much. Many couples seem to consider sharing a bottle of wine every night as normal. I don't see daily drinking as normal or healthy behaviour, any more than binge drinking. Neither of us are big drinkers and have never needed alcohol or any other stimulant to enjoy life. Nita | |||
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"I also love that the first thing people ask when they find out I don't drink is "is that for religious reasons or...?" That leap just mesmerizes me " Intriguingly, no-one asks us that..... #methodists | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about?" I think it's the attitudes towards alchohol for me....'it's legal' 'oh go on, just have one' 'one more' 'how can you go out and not drink' And because it's socially acceptable I believe it's as dangerous as any narcotic.... Watching someone die from the effects of alcohol is heartbreaking, it's not a peaceful death and living with someone who is dependant is also damaging... I don't drink, who needs it to have a good time. I love having my memories from a great night out | |||
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"In the job I do, whilst working I'm allowed less than half the legal drink driving limit, so, when I'm off I binge, but not all the time " You drink at work???? My employer has a zero tolerance policy. | |||
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"British does seem to have a binge drinking culture. But then I've seen Eastern Europeans put us to shame. Personally I love a few beers or few glasses of wine and would find it hard to stop. Trouble is I can't drink too much or I get an idea for powder (I'm CA) The youth of today don't seem to be interested. At 14 we were getting booze to hang around the park. Don't see it much now" Lots of Eastern European cultures have a very unhealthy relationship with alcohol too. It's not just the UK with a monopoly on that. | |||
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"We are not even in the top 10 countries for alcohol consumption. Heres the list. Top 10 Countries with the Highest Alcohol Consumption in 2019 (in liters of pure alcohol per capita): Czechia - 14.26 Latvia - 13.19 Moldova - 12.85 Germany - 12.79 Lithuania - 12.78 Ireland - 12.75 Spain - 12.67 Uganda - 12.48 Bulgaria - 12.46 Luxembourg - 12.45" Must try harder. See me after class | |||
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"We are not even in the top 10 countries for alcohol consumption. Heres the list. Top 10 Countries with the Highest Alcohol Consumption in 2019 (in liters of pure alcohol per capita): Czechia - 14.26 Latvia - 13.19 Moldova - 12.85 Germany - 12.79 Lithuania - 12.78 Ireland - 12.75 Spain - 12.67 Uganda - 12.48 Bulgaria - 12.46 Luxembourg - 12.45" See above comment about Eastern European alcohol culture. One of the people I've known with THE worst problem with alcohol, was a Czech man. It wasn't/isn't a healthy thing in the slightest. | |||
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"We are not even in the top 10 countries for alcohol consumption. Heres the list. Top 10 Countries with the Highest Alcohol Consumption in 2019 (in liters of pure alcohol per capita): Czechia - 14.26 Latvia - 13.19 Moldova - 12.85 Germany - 12.79 Lithuania - 12.78 Ireland - 12.75 Spain - 12.67 Uganda - 12.48 Bulgaria - 12.46 Luxembourg - 12.45 Must try harder. See me after class" Nah am of to the pub.. | |||
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"Ok final thread: It’s the drinking culture in this country something to worry about?" Not yet, I’m working on it!!!! | |||
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"Loads of people I know, myself included, have a drink every night, or most nights. I like a few glasses of wine in an evening when it's time to wind down. I don't go out drinking, don't go out to parties, for meals etc and don't binge drink. I think a lot of people don't like to admit how often they drink as worry what others think. Personally I don't really care what others think. Life's too short so enjoy it I …. " I could easily have a drinking problem or slip into becoming an alcoholic (last year I was probably borderline sadly. But, I admit I drink. And I can, Because I’m an adult. | |||
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"Loads of people I know, myself included, have a drink every night, or most nights. I like a few glasses of wine in an evening when it's time to wind down. I don't go out drinking, don't go out to parties, for meals etc and don't binge drink. I think a lot of people don't like to admit how often they drink as worry what others think. Personally I don't really care what others think. Life's too short so enjoy it I …. I could easily have a drinking problem or slip into becoming an alcoholic (last year I was probably borderline sadly. But, I admit I drink. And I can, Because I’m an adult. " Me too apparently lol | |||
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