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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Guilty...horrendous.

No words. Lock her away forever.

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By *ampasandPineappleCouple
over a year ago

North West

Them poor babies and parents! It’s awful that something like that can still happen because of once individual!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

It's beyond contempt, the poor little ones and their families..

There needs to be an inquiry into the 'managers' who threatened the consultants who raised multiple concerns over her but we're treated shockingly ..

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Creature let her rot.

Now for the inquest there are questions to answer

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Another killer thats hidden in a position of trust.

I so hope she gets it in prison.

R.I.P little babies .

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

I work in healthcare and I'm always so shocked when people who go into nursing/healthcare are guilty of such horrific crimes.

I suppose some do it due to the opportunities it gives them to harm others.

Hope she's locked away for a long time.

Miss

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By *hawn ScottMan
over a year ago

london Brixton

I'm a father of a girl that was 3 months premature. The neonatal nurses in St Thomas's were brilliant.

It baffling to think what was going through her head. Serious mental heath issues but like a lot of serial killers you never really find out why ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, crazy story

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Seems like Drs warned their bosses about her and were told to be quiet.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

She’s young, so hopefully she’ll suffer longer and spend the rest of her life in total misery. As that’s what she’s done to those poor innocent families.

I feel for the jury members who had the unenviable job of having to listen to the evidence and try to find the truth. They’ll also be criticised as they couldn’t reach verdicts for some of the victims, so those families don’t get any closure or justice.

Congratulations to the Prosecution and Police who will also have to deal with the aftermath, joy they got their verdict after all of their hard work to get justice for the families and victims, but also what emotional impact the case would’ve done to them as well.

Horrible truly horrible.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Justification for capital punishment.

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By *hawn ScottMan
over a year ago

london Brixton

"Justification for capital punishment."

Well the death penalty will never be reinstated in the UK.

Personal I'd rather have the lethal injection than spend all my life in prison

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The hospital failed too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seems like Drs warned their bosses about her and were told to be quiet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The hospital failed too"

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By *iss_FickleWoman
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

Evil, pure evil... Those babies were helpless & had already endured a lot... The poor families - my heart goes out to them

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By *erces LetiferMan
over a year ago

Somewhere off the edge of the map... 'ere there be monsters

What really boils my piss about this case is the fact that concerns were ignored, despite being raised several times by more than one source.

No excuse.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Just can’t understand why someone would do what she’s done. And for the Hospital to drag their feet and not action the concerns raised sooner. Just beggars belief.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

An 'inquiry' as announced by the government is not sufficient, it should be a full public inquiry where people are compelled to attend and are on oath in their submission and answerability to the clear and obvious catastrophic failures that allowed Letby to continue killing..

There's been too many failures in the care of some of the most vulnerable in other NHS trusts in the last decade and lessons clearly are not being learnt..

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Nhs has always been understaffed which meant she could get away with this for so long.

Health minister must go and all those that allowed this.

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Pure evil..no less

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It being discussed on tv now if you want to follow.

I remember another nurse doing the same years ago

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"Just can’t understand why someone would do what she’s done. And for the Hospital to drag their feet and not action the concerns raised sooner. Just beggars belief.

Hospital management were concerned about how it would reflect on the hospital. You really have wonder about that decision making process. Many of the deaths were preventable had management not ignored the consultants concerns.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just can’t understand why someone would do what she’s done. And for the Hospital to drag their feet and not action the concerns raised sooner. Just beggars belief.

Not the first time hospitals did this. A male nurse in the US got away with at least 40 murders as hospitals just moved him on to other hospitals rather than ruin reputation or have claims

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By *lowercandyWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Just can’t understand why someone would do what she’s done. And for the Hospital to drag their feet and not action the concerns raised sooner. Just beggars belief.

Not the first time hospitals did this. A male nurse in the US got away with at least 40 murders as hospitals just moved him on to other hospitals rather than ruin reputation or have claims "

You don't need to go to America though.

The Beverly Allitt case in 91

We need to learn from things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The ex chief executive and board members have a lot of questions to answer

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London

Horrendous stuff!! It's insane that she was able to get away with it for so long.

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By *ornyfriendlygentlemanMan
over a year ago

Mid-Sussex

I think she should get life,I mean life were she won't be released ever.

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By *rMonkeyMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

She should be brutally tortured all day every day for the rest of her natural life in prison.

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

Sadly I think there’s a few nurses (nowhere near the majority thankfully ) that enter the profession just because there’s many opportunities for abuse.

My mother was a nurse and she was definitely evil and sadistic. I dread to think what she got away with. I know the sadistic stuff she did to me, so I know totally what she was capable of. Stuff most people wouldn’t even consider!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seems like Drs warned their bosses about her and were told to be quiet.

This is what is coming out now, and the backlash will be huge...

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Just can’t understand why someone would do what she’s done. And for the Hospital to drag their feet and not action the concerns raised sooner. Just beggars belief.

Not the first time hospitals did this. A male nurse in the US got away with at least 40 murders as hospitals just moved him on to other hospitals rather than ruin reputation or have claims

You don't need to go to America though.

The Beverly Allitt case in 91

We need to learn from things."

She ended up in Rampton Secure Hospital

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By *uksungCouple
over a year ago

wednesbury

From thw article I have read she is nor the only one who should be locked up for the safety of the public. The managers, CEO and other directors are all responsible. The doctors deserve to be honoured for their persistence in getting the police involved. She needs to rot in hell and so donthe managers who failed to take the advice of the doctors for years.

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By *apxxxWoman
over a year ago

North Shropshire not Wales!!!ffs & Manchester

My grandson was born in the same hospital 2 months after she was arrested

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By *ornyfriendlygentlemanMan
over a year ago

Mid-Sussex

"Sadly I think there’s a few nurses (nowhere near the majority thankfully ) that enter the profession just because there’s many opportunities for abuse.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Can't understand why this was allowed to happen.

Why does it take cases like this to make things improve?

I thought staff were monitered as a matter of course.

Wierd.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

This is where prison is not enough .I know how I'd deal with someone like this

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By *ittycock400Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Absolutely shocking and terrifying. Thank goodness she has been caught but our hearts goes out to the families that must be going through hell because of her.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Absolutely shocking and terrifying. Thank goodness she has been caught but our hearts goes out to the families that must be going through hell because of her."

Now she needs to be put through hell not given a nice bed and warm meals .. I'd put her through hell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She also has a dip shit nutter of a friend who was interviewed by BBC who believes she is not guilty despite the overwhelming evidence she will only believe the verdict if letby tells her she is guilty that's someone trying to provoke a hostile reaction and add insult to the babies families and Justice system

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By *sianmale89Man
over a year ago

Stockport

I read that Cheshire Constabulary are currently reviewing 4,000 hospital admissions during Lucy Letby’s time working at the Countess Of Chester Hospital but have also stressed that they are not investigating all 4,000..

Simply put they are looking for anything suspicious or out off the ordinary to narrow down which could be linked as other possible victims she could have murdered that they are currently unaware off….

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

"She also has a dip shit nutter of a friend who was interviewed by BBC who believes she is not guilty despite the overwhelming evidence she will only believe the verdict if letby tells her she is guilty that's someone trying to provoke a hostile reaction and add insult to the babies families and Justice system "

Not heard about her friend.

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

The questions that need answering are How and Why.

They will be able to answer How but not the Why?

Been thinking this morning is Why.

Does it make her feel powerful and God like?

Really cant understand Why.

To think she was there to hug and comfort the parents after the babies died and what she put all the other staff through when they tried so hard to save the babies.

I really hope every day is hell for her and the World is better off when she is not around.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

On Holibobs

"The questions that need answering are How and Why.

They will be able to answer How but not the Why?

Been thinking this morning is Why.

Does it make her feel powerful and God like?

Really cant understand Why.

To think she was there to hug and comfort the parents after the babies died and what she put all the other staff through when they tried so hard to save the babies.

I really hope every day is hell for her and the World is better off when she is not around.

She will do the why later on, when the psychiatric teams start with her, and it just goes to show, you have no idea, on what is going on in someone's head. So sad

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By *sianmale89Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"The questions that need answering are How and Why.

They will be able to answer How but not the Why?

Been thinking this morning is Why.

Does it make her feel powerful and God like?

Really cant understand Why.

To think she was there to hug and comfort the parents after the babies died and what she put all the other staff through when they tried so hard to save the babies.

I really hope every day is hell for her and the World is better off when she is not around.

Psychopaths or people who murder in sprees or are serial killers etc typically speaking their minds function in a different way then most leaning towards homicidal urges or fantasies which they act out upon in real life..

Experts studies say that each individual is different with some similarities or psychological mindset or causes/experiences/incidents from a young age or adulthood which gradually gets worse over time..

There are many cases off people having difficult or traumatic experiences/upbringing/influence or environment happening to them but with the help off support and rehabilitation/therapy they managed to over come and become better over a long period off time..

That being said those who commit murders like this took a whole different route in general and became beyond any sort off help..

Throughout history they have known who to target/prey on typically on more vulnerable targets and they are aware of where and how to take their opportunity to strike be it at random or planned..

The more vulnerable the targets the more easier in their mindset to go after them and chances are less likely their victims deaths are not always as thoroughly investigated/solved or linked together in a pattern..

Over time a lot off them slip up and leave a trail/evidence on their previous victims and the law enforcement authorities catch up manage to hunt them down…

Though not all off them some are more cautious and clever who have managed to evade capture and detection and the cases go cold due lack of suspects or evidence/witnesses…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I can't even imagine the pain of the parents of those angels and how much they have suffered in the hands of someone who should be looking after them . It revolts me that this happened and also the fact that management have done nothing to prevent. If i was in the place of those mum's and dad's i wouldn't have rest till all those manager and clinical leaders also be in jail . In my opinion they are also accountable for this horrendous crime .

This scenario from management and clinic leaders in helth care having this behaviour of protection to some staff that are reported but because their pretty faces/ fit bodies or because they do all to please the management , is unfortunately a reality that happens. This is a culture in health care and who works in health care knows what i'm saying.

I have saw so much disgusting behaviour in health care that is almost unbelievable how people can get away with their behaviour and inappropriate professional conduct , is disgusting. These same people also are the ones who make other employees lifes a misery at work place because they know what ever they sat to management or clinical leaders they always are listen and taken in consideration and believed in their words . I really hope they make everybody who had responsibility and haven't acted with ethical values to be accountable . From hospitals to care homes this culture really needs to stop , and people who feels someone is not correct to have the courage to report to independent authorities if they geel their voice will be silenced at work place by management and leaders

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

After 6yrs HR, duty managers, medical directors and chief executive are going to come under more scrutiny than they have.

I find it impossible too that we know she interacted with 4000 babies, yet hospitals she worked at until now haven't looked at excess deaths or incidents whilst she was on duty. I'd have thought when her name was released years ago, employers would have done this out of routine.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"After 6yrs HR, duty managers, medical directors and chief executive are going to come under more scrutiny than they have.

Believe me or not if was someone foreign, diferent ethnicity , skin color , they would have acted very differently. Once again Believe me or not, but i can't assure you this is a reality and a culture across the all health care sector

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By *ored...StiffMan
over a year ago

Gloucester

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By *hawn ScottMan
over a year ago

london Brixton

We may never find out the "why" but then look at Ted bundy, he felt the need to capture girls despite him being handsome, charming and not short of female attention.

She seemed to live a boring life and liked to create drama. Maybe she liked the attention of consoling parents. I'm sure she put on reports that she tried her best and was thanked for her efforts????

Extreme but maybe that's all we'll know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Justification for capital punishment."

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Hope she gets attacked in prison every day.

Just read that she attacked the babies on their due date or day they were due to get discharged.

This person is the Devil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What really boils my piss about this case is the fact that concerns were ignored, despite being raised several times by more than one source.

No excuse."

^^^^this ^^^

Beggers belief that Consultant's concerns were totally ignored and it was seemingly brushed under the carpet.

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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago

moon base zero

How often is this happening with others who haven't been caught? Hidden in plain sight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Justification for capital punishment."

Yep , on this one

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I can't imagine how the families and other staff feel.

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By *enSiskoMan
over a year ago

Cestus 3

https://youtu.be/qwunlsP6nbA

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

Shows you how fucked up some women can be

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

"Justification for capital punishment."

Absolutely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Shows you how fucked up some women can be"

I can't believe this is your response. JFC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like to think the NHS managers will also face charges. Forcing doctors to apologise to her. What a horrendous situation. I don't think anyone will ever understand why she did this.

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

"Shows you how fucked up some women can be

I can't believe this is your response. JFC. "

Oh stop defending a baby murderer.

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By *ecretescapeCouple
over a year ago

EDINBURGH

"Nhs has always been understaffed which meant she could get away with this for so long.

Health minister must go and all those that allowed this.

Yep, agree the disgusting staffing levels allow this stuff to happen sadly. Used to work in it. Was always given a ridiculous amount of responsibility that was asking for something catastrophic to happen. Now I spend my days sucking cock instead. Sadly it's much more rewarding and my quality of life and mental health is about a billion times better.

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By *ittlemissFlirtyCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

"I'd like to think the NHS managers will also face charges. Forcing doctors to apologise to her. What a horrendous situation. I don't think anyone will ever understand why she did this. "

Forcing doctors to apologise to a baby murder?! Wtaf??

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By *mf123Man
over a year ago

with one foot out the door

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By *mf123Man
over a year ago

with one foot out the door

Im staying out of things like this i dont trust the system or anyone for that matter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Shows you how fucked up some women can be

I can't believe this is your response. JFC.

Oh stop defending a baby murderer."

Do you look for opportunities to criticise women? That's what your comment seems like. LL deserves all the censure she receives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd like to think the NHS managers will also face charges. Forcing doctors to apologise to her. What a horrendous situation. I don't think anyone will ever understand why she did this.

Forcing doctors to apologise to a baby murder?! Wtaf??"

They raised issues and an executive forced them to write an apology to her. Insane, isn't it?

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

"Shows you how fucked up some women can be

I can't believe this is your response. JFC.

Oh stop defending a baby murderer.

Do you look for opportunities to criticise women? That's what your comment seems like. LL deserves all the censure she receives. "

Oh, this is what this is about. You see a sexist behind every comment. Bit of an unhealthy obsession, if you ask me. But I don't care that she's a woman, I would have said "Shows you how fucked up some men can be" if it would have been a bloke. But then you wouldn't bat an eye, would you?

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By *ebauchery DivineWoman
over a year ago

Down in Dickleburgh Drive

"Im staying out of things like this i dont trust the system or anyone for that matter"

Thought I was the only one thinking that way.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

"Im staying out of things like this i dont trust the system or anyone for that matter

Thought I was the only one thinking that way. "

Really? Can I ask why? Do you think the Police investigation was a sham? Evidence and witness reports/statements not trustworthy enough? The investigation taking too little time to be thorough? The jury deliberating too little of a time?

If it was just one death then I could maybe understand how someone could come to that conclusion. Miscarriages of justice DO happen after all. But she was found guilty of 7 charges of murder and numerous other charges for attempted murder.

Independent reviews of the deaths (before the Police were brought in and charged her) stated that they believed that it should have been forwarded to police to look into (but that was covered up by the Hospital), so it’s not like someone just came up with a name and blamed her. The matter was extensively (too extensively really) looked into and then covered up before the Police even became involved.

It wasn’t a rushed investigation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im staying out of things like this i dont trust the system or anyone for that matter

Thought I was the only one thinking that way.

It wasn’t a rushed investigation. "

Longest murder trial in history, I read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Shows you how fucked up some women can be

I can't believe this is your response. JFC.

Oh stop defending a baby murderer.

Do you look for opportunities to criticise women? That's what your comment seems like. LL deserves all the censure she receives.

I've seen your comments on other threads. Pattern forming.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Not heard about her friend.

It was on panorama yesterday.

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford

Some barrister was on talk radio today actually defending her.

Bizarre!

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By *ittlemissFlirtyCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

"I'd like to think the NHS managers will also face charges. Forcing doctors to apologise to her. What a horrendous situation. I don't think anyone will ever understand why she did this.

Forcing doctors to apologise to a baby murder?! Wtaf??

They raised issues and an executive forced them to write an apology to her. Insane, isn't it? "

Beyond insane!!

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

I had to switch the news off this morning after watching the reporting on this for a few minutes it is so shockingly awful. I hope any of the managers who were involved in this have resigned and are no longer in a managerial position whilst they wait for the punishment that is hopefully coming to them.

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By *enSiskoMan
over a year ago

Cestus 3

"Some barrister was on talk radio today actually defending her.

Bizarre!"

I posted the link yesterday to that interview on this thread.

what I learned which wasn't argued against is that several nurses worldwide were convicted of crimes but later found to be not guilty.

And also there was no factual evidence of her committing theses crimes.

It was experts giving an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some barrister was on talk radio today actually defending her.

Bizarre!

I posted the link yesterday to that interview on this thread.

what I learned which wasn't argued against is that several nurses worldwide were convicted of crimes but later found to be not guilty.

And also there was no factual evidence of her committing theses crimes.

It was experts giving an opinion."

10 month trial with no factual evidence. Ok.

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By *enSiskoMan
over a year ago

Cestus 3

"Some barrister was on talk radio today actually defending her.

Bizarre!

I posted the link yesterday to that interview on this thread.

what I learned which wasn't argued against is that several nurses worldwide were convicted of crimes but later found to be not guilty.

And also there was no factual evidence of her committing theses crimes.

It was experts giving an opinion.

10 month trial with no factual evidence. Ok. "

Best to watch the video

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some barrister was on talk radio today actually defending her.

Bizarre!

I posted the link yesterday to that interview on this thread.

what I learned which wasn't argued against is that several nurses worldwide were convicted of crimes but later found to be not guilty.

And also there was no factual evidence of her committing theses crimes.

It was experts giving an opinion.

10 month trial with no factual evidence. Ok.

Best to watch the video"

One man's opinion. She has the right to appeal.

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By *enSiskoMan
over a year ago

Cestus 3

It is his experience as he has overturned wrong convictions in the past.

I have no criminal experience and know from history that the law is not always right, not always as it seems.

And I do not follow the mainstream I have my own opinion and watch other news outlets.

As do you.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

I really hope the senior drs to ignored complaints even getting staff to write her an apology are also investigated, they could have prevented so many more incidents.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whole life tariff getting handed down to it no doubt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is his experience as he has overturned wrong convictions in the past.

I have no criminal experience and know from history that the law is not always right, not always as it seems.

And I do not follow the mainstream I have my own opinion and watch other news outlets.

As do you."

The law is not always right, certainly.

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By *nigma2000Man
over a year ago

Keighley

I genuinely believe for cases so horrendous as this that capital punishment should be used, why pay to keep hercin a cell for the next 60 years

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

I think it's gone too far down the line to appeal or be overturned. Even if she survives prison and gets released in the future, she'd be labelled. She probably wouldn't survive in the outside world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's gone too far down the line to appeal or be overturned. Even if she survives prison and gets released in the future, she'd be labelled. She probably wouldn't survive in the outside world."

She has the right to appeal.

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By *aleforfun22Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

Let's hope today she is made to go in the courtroom to face her punishment instead of being the coward she is refusing to go into the courtroom.and hope the judge gives her life with no chance of release ever.also wonder will her bosses who made other doctors apologise to her can be done for assisting an offender.might of saved some lives if they had reacted sooner.... R.I.P. little angels and thinking off all the families at this difficult time ??????????????

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

She knows she will die in prison. Never to be released.

Her victims family and friends have also been given a life sentence but hope they have some answers and find strength

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
over a year ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

This is a complicated situation for sure. The girl deserves everything she gets today but I don't know how the trustees can claw back the trust and integrity that had been lost through their treatment of senior Dr's who tried to highlight there was a problem. That must of been horrendous, working with the girl and having those suspicions let alone being forced to apologise to her.

I believe the trust has new trustees who are having to deal with the mess while the former sits back and watches the fireworks on his 1.5 million pension

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman
over a year ago

Next Door

"Let's hope today she is made to go in the courtroom to face her punishment instead of being the coward she is refusing to go into the courtroom.and hope the judge gives her life with no chance of release ever.also wonder will her bosses who made other doctors apologise to her can be done for assisting an offender.might of saved some lives if they had reacted sooner.... R.I.P. little angels and thinking off all the families at this difficult time ??????????????"

Heard on the radio that she isn't going to court today.

Police are also looking at more incidents.

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By *aleforfun22Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

Heard on the radio that she isn't going to court today.

Police are also looking at more incidents.

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she should be dragged in there fkuc her human rights doesn't deserve any after what she's done.I saw they are looking at more incidents it's horrendous to think what she's done

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By *aleforfun22Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

Those question marks at the end of my post was suppose to be pink hearts for the little ones and there families.

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman
over a year ago

Next Door

Heard on the radio that she isn't going to court today.

Police are also looking at more incidents.

she should be dragged in there fkuc her human rights doesn't deserve any after what she's done.I saw they are looking at more incidents it's horrendous to think what she's done "

I think she should be present.

Would you want to see her again if you were a parent affected by this thing?

And by thing I mean Lucy. I haven't got words to describe her

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"Personal I'd rather have the lethal injection than spend all my life in prison "

And that’s one of the reasons we shouldn’t have the death penalty.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

You just need to take a look at the coverage in some of the newspapers about her to see why she wasn’t suspended. “She doesn’t look like a serial killer” and other derivatives thereof. I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly.

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By *aleforfun22Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

Heard on the radio that she isn't going to court today.

Police are also looking at more incidents.

she should be dragged in there fkuc her human rights doesn't deserve any after what she's done.I saw they are looking at more incidents it's horrendous to think what she's done

I think she should be present.

Would you want to see her again if you were a parent affected by this thing?

And by thing I mean Lucy. I haven't got words to describe her"
it must be so hard for the families to have looked at her all through the case but I'd want to see her face when the judge says you are sentenced to life imprisonment with no chance of parole until the year 2124.and hope the families give her a piece of there minds as that will be nothing compared to what she will get in prison.beat up every day ants in her food hope every day is painful for her.horrible horrible thing she is.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"Some barrister was on talk radio today actually defending her.

Bizarre!

I posted the link yesterday to that interview on this thread.

what I learned which wasn't argued against is that several nurses worldwide were convicted of crimes but later found to be not guilty.

And also there was no factual evidence of her committing theses crimes.

It was experts giving an opinion.

10 month trial with no factual evidence. Ok. "

What the CPS believes to be the key evidence is outlined here:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/lucy-letby-found-guilty-baby-murders

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford

" I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly."

What utter, utter rubbish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

What does this even mean....

I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work in healthcare and I'm always so shocked when people who go into nursing/healthcare are guilty of such horrific crimes.

I suppose some do it due to the opportunities it gives them to harm others.

Hope she's locked away for a long time.

Miss"

and what about those who did nothing when concern was raised?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

What does this even mean....

I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly.

It means that institutional racism exists in the NHS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

What does this even mean....

I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly.

It means that institutional racism exists in the NHS."

What on earth are you talking bout,Dr Stephen Brearey is white. Are you really saying this was allowed to happen purely based on ethnicity?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

What does this even mean....

I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly.

It means that institutional racism exists in the NHS.

What on earth are you talking bout,Dr Stephen Brearey is white. Are you really saying this was allowed to happen purely based on ethnicity?

Brearey was the first doctor to be listened to but not the first to raise concerns. His complaints led to her being removed from frontline duties whereas previous concerns were ignored. Sadly the NHS has a long history of treating its ethnic minority staff differently to its British staff.

I don’t think it was allowed to happen purely because of ethnicity, I think it would have been stopped earlier had Letby not been an attractive white British nurse though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Justification for capital punishment."

There is never a justification for capital punishment, and all the miscarriages of justice in the years since its abolition should be sufficient reason alone for it to remain off the statute books.

But a prison sentence where the guilty convict wishes for capital punishment every day gets my vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont understand a couple of things.

When concerns were initially raised about her why wasnt she suspended pending investigation?

If the 7 consultants were as concerned as they said, why when mgmt didnt act, didnt they go to the police with their concerns?

She is evil for sure and I'm not sure theres a suitable punishment but it's also extremely distressing that some of those poor babies could have been saved had action been taken sooner.

Bless them all, poor little souls

What does this even mean....

I strongly suspect that if she’d been a person of colour and the consultants who complained about her white, then it would’ve been identified and stopped much more quickly.

It means that institutional racism exists in the NHS.

What on earth are you talking bout,Dr Stephen Brearey is white. Are you really saying this was allowed to happen purely based on ethnicity?

I don’t think it was allowed to happen purely because of ethnicity, I think it would have been stopped earlier had Letby not been an attractive white British nurse though."

You're entitled to your opinion.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I hope that she gets a whole of life sentence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope that she gets a whole of life sentence. "

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Justification for capital punishment.

There is never a justification for capital punishment, and all the miscarriages of justice in the years since its abolition should be sufficient reason alone for it to remain off the statute books.

But a prison sentence where the guilty convict wishes for capital punishment every day gets my vote."

Agreed! X

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By *ovingSussexLifeMan
over a year ago

West Sussex

I don't get how someone can refuse to stand in the dock for sentencing?

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

"A whole life term for each and everyone of those babies". BBC news at one.

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By *ornyfriendlygentlemanMan
over a year ago

Mid-Sussex

Lucy Letby murders seven babies what else can she expect but a whole life sentence,maybe it should be execution for extreme crimes.

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

So she got, in effect, 7 whole life sentences. There’s also the possibility of another 6.

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By *hGlobbitsMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

I don't suppose she'll last long once she's inside.

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Boil her slowly in oil .. Evil divil . ... But hopefully she'll get propper prison justice ...

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
over a year ago

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Hope she is made to suffer every day until her last breath.

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By *otSoPetiteMortWoman
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

I couldn't even read the details of her attacks, and I dread to think of how members of the Jury felt having to listen to all the gory details during the trial.

I usually wouldn't wish harm on anyone but I do think we need to reinstate the death sentence for people like her. I really hope the other inmates get to her and make her suffer...

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By *olf and RedCouple
over a year ago

Nr Cardiff or at Chams Darlaston

Reading excerpts from the statements of the parents given at court today, it’s such sad reading. The babies that survived her murder attempts left with complex medical needs. I hope the law is changed so the person convicted has to attend the court for sentencing.

Red

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't suppose she'll last long once she's inside."

What not, look how long Myra Hindley and Ian Brady lasted.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

"I don't get how someone can refuse to stand in the dock for sentencing? "

Should not be allowed. The argument that it's her right to refuse to be in the dock for sentencing should be waived if the victims, or their parents in this case, wish to exercise their right to have her there. Judge can direct she be brought up using reasonable force but if she creates a disturbance she'd be taken down again. Solution? A similar contraption to that used in The Silence of the Lambs for Hannibal Letter.

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By *aleforfun22Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

"I don't get how someone can refuse to stand in the dock for sentencing?

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Chichester

thing is if they forced a person to sit in dock/court , nothing can stop them from just ignoring all the questions/speech/sit there with eyes shut, goto sleep or just be an asshole in general with the proceedings .. this woman has nothing to lose so really wouldn't have a care in the world now as whatever she did is irrelevant to her sentence/life as she is going to die in prison regardless ..

It's a given she is fucked inside sooner or later , unless she goes full lunatic and start fighting/killing inmates to get herself in solitary / locked 23hours a day . or the other option she does an Epstein .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She should be brutally tortured all day every day for the rest of her natural life in prison."

Agree get Medievil on the bitch. Hopefully some inmates will do her harm

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By *he Silver FuxMan
over a year ago

Uttoxeter

"I really hope the other inmates get to her and make her suffer...

Oh they will… and will be assisted by Prison Staff looking the other way, camera fault, door left open…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guilty...horrendous.

No words. Lock her away forever."

Guillotine.

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire

Glad to hear this total scum bag has a total life sentence. No matter how much they have a duty to protect and keep her safe in side...some other inmate will eventually get their hands on her and hopefully inflict some real nasty injuries to her maybe even death. A cell with some privileges she may earn are not punishment enough for what she has done. My thoughts go to all those parents that have lost such a precious soul...and also to the parents who's babies survived but have been left with life changing conditions!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guilty...horrendous.

No words. Lock her away forever.

Guillotine.

Too quick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put her in a room with all the parents of the babies for a couple of hours

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By *aleforfun22Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

She will be dead by Christmas..( hopefully)

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Lanzarote

"She should be brutally tortured all day every day for the rest of her natural life in prison.

Agree get Medievil on the bitch. Hopefully some inmates will do her harm "

Remember Beverley Allitt, the young nurse who killed babies too?. Last I read about her in the papers she was having a grand time in jail and having loads of sex with inmates. Makes me sick. Bring back the death penalty as these monsters don't deserve to be happy.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Mob hysteria makes me glad we have a penal system.

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By *rchitectMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

Probably going to cost about 2 Million to keep her in jail, at the tax payer cost. Say no more.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I hope that the jury will now be exempted from any future jury service. I can't imagine how traumatic these last few months have been..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She should be brutally tortured all day every day for the rest of her natural life in prison.

Agree get Medievil on the bitch. Hopefully some inmates will do her harm

Nothing like the daily rags to take hearsay and slash it across the front pages has headlines.

A bit like she will inherit a £10,000 fortune. How many people consider £10,000 a fortune.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

I do hope she is a subject of research. During the panorama programme, I got the impression the psychologist didn't think she had the typical traits of a serial killer. Studies may reveal hidden traits important to forensic psychology.

We don't want another Beverly Allitt or Lucy Letby.

Nor do we need a system that enabled her. In future police need to be called in at first suspicions.

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By *enSiskoMan
over a year ago

Cestus 3

So it seems this case has opened the worm bag again after that child killer refused to stand in the dock so the mother could confront him.

I see on the news a law change will most likely come into affect.

Question how can they make a convict confront justice, in the USA, they are trussed up like Hannibal lector put on a stretcher with wheels, which is stood upright so the convict cannot talk or move and faced in to the court.

Do you think that will come into law here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't get how someone can refuse to stand in the dock for sentencing?

!!!

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

What exactly is the evidence btw? I only see a post it note and circumstantial evidence (babies dying a lot around her). Is there like a video tape or anything?

Just curiously asking for hard evidence.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Lanzarote

"What exactly is the evidence btw? I only see a post it note and circumstantial evidence (babies dying a lot around her). Is there like a video tape or anything?

Just curiously asking for hard evidence."

They found her diaries where she admitted being evil and killing the babies.

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

"What exactly is the evidence btw? I only see a post it note and circumstantial evidence (babies dying a lot around her). Is there like a video tape or anything?

Just curiously asking for hard evidence.

They found her diaries where she admitted being evil and killing the babies."

Ah there is a diary too? I thought just some post it notes. I found that a little odd. Who writes post it notes for themselves about murders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're changing the law so criminals have to appear in court to hear the victim statements and sentencing.....

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