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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" The same. I'm anti-Monarchist but would do as you do. I wouldn't bring up my wish for Britain to become a republic at that time, as there's a time and a place for everything. | |||
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"Shake hand and be polite remind them that I hadn't washed mine probably hear neither did they " Hope you wash them after a number 2 ewww hahaha | |||
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"Shake hand and be polite remind them that I hadn't washed mine probably hear neither did they Hope you wash them after a number 2 ewww hahaha " I'd probably come worse off because I do and reply would be that they couldn't count for everyone by the time they got to me | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" A member of my family won a military award to be presented by royalty and I refused to attend ceremony as I will NEVER bow to an accident of birth who thinks that means I should curtesy. Everyone thought I was mad but NO WAY a hand shake I would have done but to be told I had to wear a hat (no way) and to curtsey no thanks. | |||
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"I would decline to meet them." So would I. But if for any reason I had to, I'd adhere to etiquette | |||
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"I would decline to meet them. So would I. But if for any reason I had to, I'd adhere to etiquette " Yeah. I curtsied at my undergraduate graduation per tradition*. If I can curtsy for the governor, whatever. * Women could either curtsy or bow, but the protocol for bowing involved more steps and a lot of guys dropped their mortarboard in the process. I went for the simple option | |||
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"If it's the king or Queen yes! They do a lot for the economy, Whether you like them or not. " Is that actually true though? Do people go to Spain to see the Spanish King? What about Thailand or the Netherlands? The French chopped their monarch's head off and still get millions of visitors to Versailles Palace. (I'm not advocating executing the current UK King, just pointing out what happened in France). I've seen lots of estimates about the amount of money the monarchy earns for tourism, but when you look at the data, it's all about visiting palaces etc, which people could (and would) do without there being a monarch. It's the same when I visited the Taj Mahal. It's a beautiful building but I had no interest in who was buried there. Gbat | |||
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"Why meet them in the first place then? If you are living on your own terms you would put yourself in the position of meeting them and thus it wouldn't be an issue. Why meet them, not to bow simply to prove a point that most people wouldn't see or decipher unless it were for some self gratification. " I met both Princess Ann and as he was then, Prince Charles, both through the course of my work. I didn't go to meet them, I went to do my job and thus met them. If I was to get a medal from the monarch, I would go, but I would resent the fact that having a monarch prevented me from getting a medal from my republic. For clarity, I didn't bow nor would I on a future occasion. Gbat | |||
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"Why meet them in the first place then? If you are living on your own terms you would put yourself in the position of meeting them and thus it wouldn't be an issue. Why meet them, not to bow simply to prove a point that most people wouldn't see or decipher unless it were for some self gratification. I met both Princess Ann and as he was then, Prince Charles, both through the course of my work. I didn't go to meet them, I went to do my job and thus met them. If I was to get a medal from the monarch, I would go, but I would resent the fact that having a monarch prevented me from getting a medal from my republic. For clarity, I didn't bow nor would I on a future occasion. Gbat " But you would happily receive a honor for services to the UK which the King is Head of State. The UK isn't a republic, it's a constitutional monarchy. If you resent meeting them then get the madal through the post. | |||
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"Shake hand and be polite remind them that I hadn't washed mine probably hear neither did they Hope you wash them after a number 2 ewww hahaha I'd probably come worse off because I do and reply would be that they couldn't count for everyone by the time they got to me " hehe | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" I am not a royalist and would refuse to be servile to someone I do not regard as being better than me through act of birth. | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them A member of my family won a military award to be presented by royalty and I refused to attend ceremony as I will NEVER bow to an accident of birth who thinks that means I should curtesy. Everyone thought I was mad but NO WAY a hand shake I would have done but to be told I had to wear a hat (no way) and to curtsey no thanks. " You have myrespect, I would be the same | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them A member of my family won a military award to be presented by royalty and I refused to attend ceremony as I will NEVER bow to an accident of birth who thinks that means I should curtesy. Everyone thought I was mad but NO WAY a hand shake I would have done but to be told I had to wear a hat (no way) and to curtsey no thanks. " There's no obligation to bow or curtsey to royalty, but well done for letting your family member down. I'm sure they won the award for doing something terribly brave, but you were incapable of supporting them through ignorance and having to wear a hat. I'm sure your family member was grateful you weren't there. | |||
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"Yes I would bow and show respect to our monarchs as I would with any royal family from any other country Marc" I'd show the same respect to unelected officials from any country. I'll agree on that | |||
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"I met Charles 2 years ago... my friend set me up saying I have to say your royal highness so I did .... apparently not what I should have said.... got it on video too lol... also got interviewed and on local news claim to fame lol " That is the correct address on first meeting and Sir thereafter.. | |||
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"I met Charles 2 years ago... my friend set me up saying I have to say your royal highness so I did .... apparently not what I should have said.... got it on video too lol... also got interviewed and on local news claim to fame lol That is the correct address on first meeting and Sir thereafter.." That's a relief then thank you | |||
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"But you would happily receive a honor for services to the UK which the King is Head of State. The UK isn't a republic, it's a constitutional monarchy. If you resent meeting them then get the madal through the post." Yes, I would happily receive an honour for services to the UK (I already have thanks). But I was serving my community not the crown. That was my point. I resent that there's a monarch in the way and I would always have prefered to get my recognition from my country not the monarch. I was handed my medals from people a lot lower in the pecking order, but the only way to get the higher orders is from the Palace. They don't send out Knighthoods in the post. Gbat | |||
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"But you would happily receive a honor for services to the UK which the King is Head of State. The UK isn't a republic, it's a constitutional monarchy. If you resent meeting them then get the madal through the post. Yes, I would happily receive an honour for services to the UK (I already have thanks). But I was serving my community not the crown. That was my point. I resent that there's a monarch in the way and I would always have prefered to get my recognition from my country not the monarch. I was handed my medals from people a lot lower in the pecking order, but the only way to get the higher orders is from the Palace. They don't send out Knighthoods in the post. Gbat " It’s a controversial area and essentially down to your perspective. A monarchy, whether you agree with the concept or not, is a constant representation of your country, whereas the president of a republic is merely the head of the current ruling party and will never be constant. | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" yes I would and have curtsied to the Late Queen when I was introduced to her. | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" If you can hold door open for Joe public, what's the big deal with royalty. I met Queen Elizabeth, the protocol was explained, I did my bit and proud of it. Was I about to snub someone in their home? Not a chance. Its called respect. If someone on here said, you can fuck me if you bow to me this once, your saying no! If your in front of a judge, do you call him 'pal' or 'my lord'. At least royalty wouldn't hold you in contempt. | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" I did and I would again. I've also shaken hands in less formal settings. | |||
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"Would you bow - men - or curtsey - women. Ive been told i am disrespectful for not doing so. I would shake hands and be polite, just as I would to anyone - but I certainly wouldnt bow to them" I'd get on my knees and never look in their exulted faces | |||
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"It’s a controversial area and essentially down to your perspective. A monarchy, whether you agree with the concept or not, is a constant representation of your country, whereas the president of a republic is merely the head of the current ruling party and will never be constant." A monarchy is no more constant than a constitution. They are people with finite lives. Admittedly, the UKs recent experience is of long a term monarch, but most young people will be on their third monarch well within their lifetimes. The youngest people will probably make their fourth before they die. Who says they’ll be any good? Trouble is, there’s no legal way of binning a bad one, it’s just pot luck. Monarchs are finite but perhaps you can argue a monarchy is more permanent. But by the same argument, presidents are finite but a presidential republic is more permanent. But even the longest of institutions isn’t constant really. I have always represented my community and by extension my country. I haven’t represented the monarch even though their symbols were all over the money and badges. Gbat | |||
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