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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets. Is he that bad ?" Yep.. | |||
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"Put him down there's no way he will last on the outside and to dangerous to keep locked up." Wow | |||
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"He should be released. But with enough support. I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. " And if he kills then presumably it could be argued that the State should have protected the victim.. | |||
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"He should be released. But with enough support. I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. And if he kills then presumably it could be argued that the State should have protected the victim.. " He’s never killed He’s had the opportunity to but hasn’t I’d have him as my neighbour over the nonces that get a minimal sentence in an open prison | |||
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"He should be released. But with enough support. I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. " And this is a great point. | |||
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"He should be released. But with enough support. I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. And if he kills then presumably it could be argued that the State should have protected the victim.. He’s never killed He’s had the opportunity to but hasn’t I’d have him as my neighbour over the nonces that get a minimal sentence in an open prison " Good luck with that one.. | |||
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"I was all for him being released....until I saw the documentary, his son just seems like a freeloader living of his dad's name and all the "fake news" stories just made me think "wanker"" Yes, I only watched the first episode and felt the sane, it was weird. Bit he showed no insight and no remorse and seemed to still revel in his notoriorty. That's not a combination for parole. I feel sorry for the guy, the system has fucked him up good and proper. | |||
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"The acid test is would you be happy with him living in the flat upstairs.. if no then keep the bugger locked up.. " Only if he promised to keep the noise down… | |||
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"He should be released. But with enough support. I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. And this is a great point." And they wouldn't have to exercise the power to detain him if he stopped doing stupid shit. | |||
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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets. Is he that bad ? Yep.. " Is he Tom ? What has he done that would stop him from serving his sentence and then being released. Don't bother telling me , I know his history. He was NOT jailed for life. He's done his sentence. Let him out or incarcerate him until his death on a WouldaShouldaCouldaMight. He's done his time ... let him out./ | |||
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago." He has paid. He has paid by the laws of this country He has done the time that society gave him . | |||
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"No,there is a reason he's dubbed Britain's most violent prisoner " Yeah. It sells newspapers. | |||
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"Well he’s lost his appeal. Wouldn’t like to be guarding his wing this evening! "Oh no ...... | |||
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"Im my opinion, there are more dangerous people running the country." Correct ! | |||
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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets. Is he that bad ? Yep.. Is he Tom ? What has he done that would stop him from serving his sentence and then being released. Don't bother telling me , I know his history. He was NOT jailed for life. He's done his sentence. Let him out or incarcerate him until his death on a WouldaShouldaCouldaMight. He's done his time ... let him out./"  | |||
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago. He has paid. He has paid by the laws of this country He has done the time that society gave him ." To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours. Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start. | |||
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago. He has paid. He has paid by the laws of this country He has done the time that society gave him . To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours. Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start." If ? If ? Did he re offend ? | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all " Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? " Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?" No. | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? No. " I wonder if their families do | |||
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago. He has paid. He has paid by the laws of this country He has done the time that society gave him . To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours. Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start. If ? If ? Did he re offend ?" Unfortunately for Mr Bronson, he did. Not sure how that compared to previous offences. | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?" Only when they’re not at work | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? Only when they’re not at work " Same for police, firemen, soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, parole officers etc I assume then | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? Only when they’re not at work Same for police, firemen, soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, parole officers etc I assume then" police and soldiers yes. Along with prison officers they’re taught control and restraint. They choose a career that comes unfortunately with violence risk | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? Only when they’re not at work Same for police, firemen, soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, parole officers etc I assume then police and soldiers yes. Along with prison officers they’re taught control and restraint. They choose a career that comes unfortunately with violence risk " Violent risk makes them not members of the public then, it's a view I suppose, I think farmers face the most risk at work but not violent risk I guess | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? No. I wonder if their families do " Why don't you say something. | |||
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago. He has paid. He has paid by the laws of this country He has done the time that society gave him . To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours. Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start. If ? If ? Did he re offend ? Unfortunately for Mr Bronson, he did. Not sure how that compared to previous offences." I read he was on a discretionary life sentence... I've not heard of that before so I am beginning to understand how they manage to keep things elastic. I really thought his time was served but evidently , not. | |||
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago. He has paid. He has paid by the laws of this country He has done the time that society gave him . To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours. Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start. If ? If ? Did he re offend ? Unfortunately for Mr Bronson, he did. Not sure how that compared to previous offences. I read he was on a discretionary life sentence... I've not heard of that before so I am beginning to understand how they manage to keep things elastic. I really thought his time was served but evidently , not." Just for context I know a qualified psychiatric nurse who became a journalist for the nursing times, he interviewed Bronson and said he was never more scared for his safety, if he's deemed not safe by experts I'm going with their view | |||
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"Who thinks the parole panel should set him free?" Nope! | |||
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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets. Is he that bad ? Yep.. " I wouldn't say that. He's an old age pensioner.. how bad can he be ? | |||
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? " Yes, a voluntary prison art teacher, he beat him and held him captive at knifepoint. | |||
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