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"A lady comedian claims to be mum shamed because she was drinking a glass of wine whilst breastfeeding her newborn. Is this allowed? What's going on here girls. It's all over the news " Mum shamed FFS. Adding the word shamed onto something now seems to be an excuse for all sorts of behaviour. I certainly would have "tutted loudly"and given a disapproving look. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding." I think they brought in a rules that you can drink at the same time as breast feeding but its only for the adult breast feeder while the kids asleep . I read it somewhere or maybe just made it up . | |||
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Those concerned should read up the following sites:
The Breastfeeding Network
La Leche League GB
You should not take reference from the NHS website or "experts" on breakfast shows. Even GPs aren't trained enough to hand out advice regarding this.
I didn't drink when breastfeeding as we bed shared for a number of years.
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. I think they brought in a rules that you can drink at the same time as breast feeding but its only for the adult breast feeder while the kids asleep . I read it somewhere or maybe just made it up ." I think it’s 2 hours before but they recommend not drinking at all. As a parent I wouldn’t do anything that could potentially harm my child. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding." This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. | |||
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"People will criticise a mother without a second thought. Then fire up their car and drive it along a busy street with children and babies in it. Mother and children are easy targets and their critics rarely stop to think" Well said  | |||
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"People will criticise a mother without a second thought. Then fire up their car and drive it along a busy street with children and babies in it. Mother and children are easy targets and their critics rarely stop to think" Absolutely this! | |||
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"I used to have a glass of wine whilst breastfeeding  "No harm in it. As a society we seem to have become anxious and worried about every last thing. No reason to shame women for doing this. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. " “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. " Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. | |||
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"I was a trained breastfeeding peer supporter not long ago. Yes, you can drink alcohol whilst breastfeeding. The biggest concern when nursing and drinking alcohol is the ability to look after the baby/child as well as you would when you didn't have a drink. Also the fact judgement is impaired and it is incredibly dangerous to fall asleep in the same bed as a baby/child when under the influence of alcohol (or drugs).
Those concerned should read up the following sites:
The Breastfeeding Network
La Leche League GB
You should not take reference from the NHS website or "experts" on breakfast shows. Even GPs aren't trained enough to hand out advice regarding this.
I didn't drink when breastfeeding as we bed shared for a number of years.
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different." Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant?" Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. " By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. I think they brought in a rules that you can drink at the same time as breast feeding but its only for the adult breast feeder while the kids asleep . I read it somewhere or maybe just made it up ." There are no rules for parenting. Only guidelines. That change like the daily mails advice on red wine, one day is causes cancer, next day it’s good for you. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant?" probably the latter!!!!!  | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter." Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. I think they brought in a rules that you can drink at the same time as breast feeding but its only for the adult breast feeder while the kids asleep . I read it somewhere or maybe just made it up . There are no rules for parenting. Only guidelines. That change like the daily mails advice on red wine, one day is causes cancer, next day it’s good for you. " That's so true. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol " I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant?" I have no idea about Katherine Ryan. I simply responded to disprove the comments that breastfeeding women couldn't drink alcohol in normal moderation or caffeine. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand." Irrespective of Katherine Ryan, are you happy to accept that breastfeeding women can indeed drink moderately and imbibe caffeine, because your original comments were actually the ones I found more shaming. I have zero idea what Katherine Ryan has or has not done recently. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand." I don't know. I suspect that people would have made all sorts of assumptions about him ranging from he's an alcoholic to what a good bloke he was looking after his own baby. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. Irrespective of Katherine Ryan, are you happy to accept that breastfeeding women can indeed drink moderately and imbibe caffeine, because your original comments were actually the ones I found more shaming. I have zero idea what Katherine Ryan has or has not done recently. " What was shaming about it? I said I was “almost certain” I didn’t question her motives or her parenting skills. I also said as a parent I wouldn’t do anything that could potentially harm my child. Alcohol whilst breastfeeding can potentially harm a child as stated in the link you posted. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. I don't know. I suspect that people would have made all sorts of assumptions about him ranging from he's an alcoholic to what a good bloke he was looking after his own baby." That last bit, although true is really sad. That men are praised for looking after their own children. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. I don't know. I suspect that people would have made all sorts of assumptions about him ranging from he's an alcoholic to what a good bloke he was looking after his own baby. That last bit, although true is really sad. That men are praised for looking after their own children." Our daughter has male friends who refer to 'babysitting' their own children | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. Irrespective of Katherine Ryan, are you happy to accept that breastfeeding women can indeed drink moderately and imbibe caffeine, because your original comments were actually the ones I found more shaming. I have zero idea what Katherine Ryan has or has not done recently. What was shaming about it? I said I was “almost certain” I didn’t question her motives or her parenting skills. I also said as a parent I wouldn’t do anything that could potentially harm my child. Alcohol whilst breastfeeding can potentially harm a child as stated in the link you posted. It only harms if taken in amounts about the recommended level. No-one should be drinking above the recommended level, whether they are breastfeeding women or men or whoever. Women having one glass of wine at lunch and breastfeeding are routinely shamed in public by busybodies coming and telling them what they should and shouldn't do. It's not limited to alcohol either. I once had a waitress refuse to serve me a spicy tomato pasta dish because she believed that the spice would harm my baby (also bollocks). Having been a breastfeeding mother, you are routinely judged and shamed for every fucking thing you do. It's tiresome. *ABOVE the recommended level." One large glass is above the recommended level though. That’s the point I’m making. You’re assuming she’s drinking less than that the same as I’m assuming she’s drinking that or above. The spice thing is ridiculous. Being mixed race I’ve been eating spicy food since I could eat solids and as far as I can tell it’s done me no harm. | |||
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" I don't know. I suspect that people would have made all sorts of assumptions about him ranging from he's an alcoholic to what a good bloke he was looking after his own baby. That last bit, although true is really sad. That men are praised for looking after their own children. Our daughter has male friends who refer to 'babysitting' their own children I heard “such a good dad” just for doing the basics. It’s ridiculous." My mum was stunned and surprised that Mr N not only parented our two but also cooked and cleaned when I was at work in much the same way I did when he was at work. She also genuinely believed that if my brother left his wife and had custody of their children that social services would give him help to get them ready for school and look after them until he came home from work. I had to explain that this wouldn't happen for him any more than for a separated mother. She was outraged because it wasn't fair  | |||
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" I don't know. I suspect that people would have made all sorts of assumptions about him ranging from he's an alcoholic to what a good bloke he was looking after his own baby. That last bit, although true is really sad. That men are praised for looking after their own children. Our daughter has male friends who refer to 'babysitting' their own children I heard “such a good dad” just for doing the basics. It’s ridiculous. My mum was stunned and surprised that Mr N not only parented our two but also cooked and cleaned when I was at work in much the same way I did when he was at work. She also genuinely believed that if my brother left his wife and had custody of their children that social services would give him help to get them ready for school and look after them until he came home from work. I had to explain that this wouldn't happen for him any more than for a separated mother. She was outraged because it wasn't fair "My mother is still outraged that I do all the cooking and my wife can barely make toast. I know we’re useless most the time but men are actually capable of cooking and looking after children. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. Irrespective of Katherine Ryan, are you happy to accept that breastfeeding women can indeed drink moderately and imbibe caffeine, because your original comments were actually the ones I found more shaming. I have zero idea what Katherine Ryan has or has not done recently. What was shaming about it? I said I was “almost certain” I didn’t question her motives or her parenting skills. I also said as a parent I wouldn’t do anything that could potentially harm my child. Alcohol whilst breastfeeding can potentially harm a child as stated in the link you posted. It only harms if taken in amounts about the recommended level. No-one should be drinking above the recommended level, whether they are breastfeeding women or men or whoever. Women having one glass of wine at lunch and breastfeeding are routinely shamed in public by busybodies coming and telling them what they should and shouldn't do. It's not limited to alcohol either. I once had a waitress refuse to serve me a spicy tomato pasta dish because she believed that the spice would harm my baby (also bollocks). Having been a breastfeeding mother, you are routinely judged and shamed for every fucking thing you do. It's tiresome. *ABOVE the recommended level. One large glass is above the recommended level though. That’s the point I’m making. You’re assuming she’s drinking less than that the same as I’m assuming she’s drinking that or above. The spice thing is ridiculous. Being mixed race I’ve been eating spicy food since I could eat solids and as far as I can tell it’s done me no harm." I can't comment on the breastfeeding because I didn't breastfeed (await the pitchforks) but I can remember my Father in law making his legendary curry, pretty spicy and feeding it to my four month old  oooh my life I thought, but the baby loved it 
He's now 27 years old, built like a brick outhouse and 6ft 5" tall.
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding. This is codswallop. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/breastfeeding-and-bottle-feeding/breastfeeding-and-lifestyle/alcohol/ You can drink caffeine too. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. Obviously drinking excess alcohol is a bad idea, but the general guidance from breastfeeding support services is that if you remain sufficiently sober to look after your baby properly, then whatever level of drink you've consumed to that point is fine. That's different for different people. I chose not to drink alcohol and breastfeed but then again, I rarely drink alcohol now when I am not breastfeeding. “Regularly drinking above the recommended limits can be harmful for you and your baby.” The recommended limits is around 2 units a day so one large glass of wine exceeds that. I’ll admit the caffeine thing was taken from the back of an energy drink so maybe that relates to extreme amounts of caffeine. Anyone drinking beyond the recommended limits is harming themselves. There's a world of difference between having a glass of wine with dinner as a breastfeeding mother, vs a whole bottle every night. There's nothing wrong with the former at all, but some people would treat the mother like she's taken a knife to her own child's throat, which is shaming behaviour. Caffeine in normal amounts, e.g. tea and coffee is fine. The energy drink people have to put warnings on things to cover their arses, the same way as medication manufacturers do. Most prescription medicine is also fine to take when breastfeeding, but the package says something different. Katherine Ryan posted the picture knowing full well what the reaction would be. Is it shaming or is it baiting by a celebrity desperate to stay relevant? Part of her job is literally to stay relevant. She wouldn't be much of a comedian if she wasn't. By being funny. Whatever your view on drinking whilst breastfeeding is it surely isn’t a laughing matter. Well there's a whole other debate on what's appropriate for comedy and what isn't and if being funny is the only role a comedian fulfills. She's certainly got people discussing breastfeeding, motherhood and alcohol I wonder what the reaction would be had her partner been sat bottle feeding the baby with a pint in his other hand. Irrespective of Katherine Ryan, are you happy to accept that breastfeeding women can indeed drink moderately and imbibe caffeine, because your original comments were actually the ones I found more shaming. I have zero idea what Katherine Ryan has or has not done recently. What was shaming about it? I said I was “almost certain” I didn’t question her motives or her parenting skills. I also said as a parent I wouldn’t do anything that could potentially harm my child. Alcohol whilst breastfeeding can potentially harm a child as stated in the link you posted. It only harms if taken in amounts about the recommended level. No-one should be drinking above the recommended level, whether they are breastfeeding women or men or whoever. Women having one glass of wine at lunch and breastfeeding are routinely shamed in public by busybodies coming and telling them what they should and shouldn't do. It's not limited to alcohol either. I once had a waitress refuse to serve me a spicy tomato pasta dish because she believed that the spice would harm my baby (also bollocks). Having been a breastfeeding mother, you are routinely judged and shamed for every fucking thing you do. It's tiresome. *ABOVE the recommended level. One large glass is above the recommended level though. That’s the point I’m making. You’re assuming she’s drinking less than that the same as I’m assuming she’s drinking that or above. The spice thing is ridiculous. Being mixed race I’ve been eating spicy food since I could eat solids and as far as I can tell it’s done me no harm. I can't comment on the breastfeeding because I didn't breastfeed (await the pitchforks) but I can remember my Father in law making his legendary curry, pretty spicy and feeding it to my four month old oooh my life I thought, but the baby loved it
He's now 27 years old, built like a brick outhouse and 6ft 5" tall.
I think that is proof that not being breastfed and eating spicy stuff as a baby had no adverse affect on him whatsoever "There’s loads of benefits to eating spicy foods. Jamie Oliver (I can’t stand him) even tried to find milder chillies to add to food so people who don’t like spice could take advantage of the benefits. | |||
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"I’m almost certain you’re not meant to drink alcohol or even have caffeine when breastfeeding." But in these days of nobody can be told no, sadly it's about some women's empowerment & their bodies rather than what's best for their off spring. Moderation is king if not avoided all together but I,m with you. Obviously I,m a misogynistic pig for those wokers looking in. | |||
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"People will criticise a mother without a second thought. Then fire up their car and drive it along a busy street with children and babies in it. Mother and children are easy targets and their critics rarely stop to think" Yes this is very much about shaming/judging the mother and very little if any concern for a child | |||
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"Anyway when I was breastfeeding I was usually so darn tired that a glass of wine was the last thing on my mind. " I didn't drink alcohol when I was breastfeeding either. But I did take certain prescription medication, after taking expert advice. Boy, was I shamed for it by the health visitor and others! | |||
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