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"That’s my point great driver just drive the car.. Life is bloody hard Don’t matter what colour you are.. " Completely agree  although, life is quite easy for him outside of a race circuit. Good car driver though. | |||
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"Nah, I’m bored of people moaning about how much he moans about how hard his life is. Especially when it’s easy to ignore articles written about him. If you’re that triggered by him, maybe avoid all such media. " Can people not just have a moan and throw it out there for other peoples thoughts? Why cant the 'just ignore him so' brigade ever allow people to just have a moan? | |||
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"I don't warm to him. Much like the footballers taking a knee or commenting on how bad life is in Qatar or any of the multi millionaire sports people. I'm not sure sports and politics mixing so much has a happy ending. " Yes its always hard to take these people seriously when they start swerving off into 'real' issues. They're not as disgusting as the Holywood brigade, bur still hard to stomach | |||
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"Nah, I’m bored of people moaning about how much he moans about how hard his life is. Especially when it’s easy to ignore articles written about him. If you’re that triggered by him, maybe avoid all such media. Can people not just have a moan and throw it out there for other peoples thoughts? Why cant the 'just ignore him so' brigade ever allow people to just have a moan? " By the same token, why can't Lewis Hamilton just have a moan..? | |||
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"Nah, I’m bored of people moaning about how much he moans about how hard his life is. Especially when it’s easy to ignore articles written about him. If you’re that triggered by him, maybe avoid all such media. Can people not just have a moan and throw it out there for other peoples thoughts? Why cant the 'just ignore him so' brigade ever allow people to just have a moan? By the same token, why can't Lewis Hamilton just have a moan..?" He can, and is being allowed do so. People are moaning back in response to it | |||
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"Nah, I’m bored of people moaning about how much he moans about how hard his life is. Especially when it’s easy to ignore articles written about him. If you’re that triggered by him, maybe avoid all such media. Can people not just have a moan and throw it out there for other peoples thoughts? Why cant the 'just ignore him so' brigade ever allow people to just have a moan? By the same token, why can't Lewis Hamilton just have a moan..?"  exactly this!
So what if he's rich etc he's still human. He'll have much the same worries and concerns as anyone else. Just not where money's concerned, money isn't the be all & end all by a long shot | |||
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"Nah, I’m bored of people moaning about how much he moans about how hard his life is. Especially when it’s easy to ignore articles written about him. If you’re that triggered by him, maybe avoid all such media. Can people not just have a moan and throw it out there for other peoples thoughts? Why cant the 'just ignore him so' brigade ever allow people to just have a moan? By the same token, why can't Lewis Hamilton just have a moan..? exactly this!
So what if he's rich etc he's still human. He'll have much the same worries and concerns as anyone else. Just not where money's concerned, money isn't the be all & end all by a long shot"Pretty sure he won't be worrying about how he heats the water or stops his kids from freezing and getting ill or keeps a roof over his families heads. Or ambulances not showing up or his kids teachers being on strike or how he gets to work in London when the trains don't run.. | |||
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"Isn't this what rich celebs do anyway,bitch and moan?? But I can't see any issues with him highlighting racism tho. I would imagine that the sort of circles he is involved with there's lots of snobbery and racism,super rich old dudes with 20 year old bride's. I digress " Apparently he was also fifth on The Sunday Times Giving List, donating £20m to a variety of charities. So he's a alright guy in my book. | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1..." No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. | |||
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"Is anyone else so sick to the back teeth and bored of his bleating and sulking about how hard his life is!!?? He is a multi multi millionaire.. Just drive the car you muppet.. Just shut up as you are not struggling to pay your bills... You haven’t got a clue about life what every colour people are" I dislike him on a cellular level! He's a cretinous arse! | |||
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"Is anyone else so sick to the back teeth and bored of his bleating and sulking about how hard his life is!!?? He is a multi multi millionaire.. Just drive the car you muppet.. Just shut up as you are not struggling to pay your bills... You haven’t got a clue about life what every colour people are I dislike him on a cellular level! He's a cretinous arse! " Have you ever met him? | |||
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"Is anyone else so sick to the back teeth and bored of his bleating and sulking about how hard his life is!!?? He is a multi multi millionaire.. Just drive the car you muppet.. Just shut up as you are not struggling to pay your bills... You haven’t got a clue about life what every colour people are I dislike him on a cellular level! He's a cretinous arse! " Morning Jeremy | |||
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"He is a brilliant driver but has the uncomfortable load to carry of being the only black driver in F1 and an international celebrity. He is in Catch 22. If he says nothing (because he personally has no problems) he is accused of being a selfish arrogant bastard for not using his status to help the poor and oppressed. If he says something he is accused of being a "bell end" who should shut the fuck up because he is a multi millionaire. He is simply using his elevated platform to raise awareness. " | |||
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"Is anyone else so sick to the back teeth and bored of his bleating and sulking about how hard his life is!!?? He is a multi multi millionaire.. Just drive the car you muppet.. Just shut up as you are not struggling to pay your bills... You haven’t got a clue about life what every colour people are" I'm interested why you mentioned his colour? | |||
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"So many people triggered by a black man not liking racism, interesting." It does feel like that doesn't it? | |||
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"He is a brilliant driver but has the uncomfortable load to carry of being the only black driver in F1 and an international celebrity. He is in Catch 22. If he says nothing (because he personally has no problems) he is accused of being a selfish arrogant bastard for not using his status to help the poor and oppressed. If he says something he is accused of being a "bell end" who should shut the fuck up because he is a multi millionaire. He is simply using his elevated platform to raise awareness. " This is so true, he will be damned if he does or damned if he doesn't. | |||
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"So many people triggered by a black man not liking racism, interesting." What is interesting? | |||
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"Is anyone else so sick to the back teeth and bored of his bleating and sulking about how hard his life is!!?? He is a multi multi millionaire.. Just drive the car you muppet.. Just shut up as you are not struggling to pay your bills... You haven’t got a clue about life what every colour people are" Abso-fucking-lutely, thank god somebody said it. I mean, what even qualifies a black athlete to discuss the racism they experienced going up through the ranks of their sport. Or, that it is still exists today. The only people that should be raising awareness of issues affecting other members of our society are those without public voices. Or, maybe just salt of the earth types who earn minimum wage paid via p.a.y.e like Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson, who definitely don't have their earnings paid via offshore production companies to avoid as much tax as possible. It's funny how, when he was just Lewis Hamilton the racing driver, he was our Champion, beating the world for good old blighty. But since he got all 'uppity' and started having an opinion, he is suddenly 'a massive bellend' B | |||
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"This reads like the Megan markle thread a few weeks ago. the power of the media me thinks." She a good drive too? | |||
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"This reads like the Megan markle thread a few weeks ago. the power of the media me thinks. She a good drive too? " ive no idea | |||
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"This reads like the Megan markle thread a few weeks ago. the power of the media me thinks. She a good drive too? ive no idea " | |||
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"I actually get annoyed with people moaning and Lewis Hamilton. The UK's greatest ever F1 racer and one of the greatest off all time. You don't generally become a seven (should be eight) world F1 champion by being nice." I also think us Brits have an illness, we really despise people who are successful or who want to be successful. Can't wait to knock the buggers off their perches. | |||
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"Could always just not listen to/read about his thoughts?" Indeed, and then talk about them as if we all know what’s being referred to… | |||
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card... Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? I think all posts basically covered all sides of what I was trying to say in my original post.. I don’t care what colour or creed anyone is.. I treat people rich or poor how they treat me.. We are all allowed our opinions... I’m a white English male.. Worked all me life.. And still do.. Funny how boohoo Hamilton didn’t bang on when he had the fastest car for was it 6 yrs?? I hate having the racism card rammed down my throat constantly!! Along with footballers becoming managers...in all walks of life/jobs...if you can’t deliver in that job you get sacked..unfortunately we don’t all get our contracts paid up worth million’s... I just want to watch sport like the good old days " These days, if you say you’re English you’ll be arrested and thrown in jail. | |||
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"I met Jackie Stewart once,he was a miserable cocknocker." I met Cilla Black once too. Also a grumpy cowbag. | |||
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"I met Princess Anne once at a charity function , she was lovely.. just saying that not all celebs etc are assholes " I like that you redressed the balance there. They’re all people. | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. " Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time. | |||
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card... Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? I think all posts basically covered all sides of what I was trying to say in my original post.. I don’t care what colour or creed anyone is.. I treat people rich or poor how they treat me.. We are all allowed our opinions... I’m a white English male.. Worked all me life.. And still do.. Funny how boohoo Hamilton didn’t bang on when he had the fastest car for was it 6 yrs?? I hate having the racism card rammed down my throat constantly!! Along with footballers becoming managers...in all walks of life/jobs...if you can’t deliver in that job you get sacked..unfortunately we don’t all get our contracts paid up worth million’s... I just want to watch sport like the good old days " You're brave! | |||
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"Enlighten me...what's he actually been moaning about?? I dont follow F1 anymore, so dont have a clue." Racism, i think | |||
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"Enlighten me...what's he actually been moaning about?? I dont follow F1 anymore, so dont have a clue. Racism, i think" Ill have to do some research.. | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time." And what sport or entertainment has a point in your opinion? One of the benefits of F1 is it has, for some years now, been developing hybrid power units. The internal combustion unit is only 1600cc and the amount of fuel it uses during the race is capped yet it can produce almost 1000 horsepower in qualification trim. The power units now have far higher efficiencies than normal engines and the technology that creates that is being passed into road vehicles. What point is there to football? Cricket, tennis, darts, etc etc. | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time. And what sport or entertainment has a point in your opinion? One of the benefits of F1 is it has, for some years now, been developing hybrid power units. The internal combustion unit is only 1600cc and the amount of fuel it uses during the race is capped yet it can produce almost 1000 horsepower in qualification trim. The power units now have far higher efficiencies than normal engines and the technology that creates that is being passed into road vehicles. What point is there to football? Cricket, tennis, darts, etc etc. " What technology is passed to road vehicles? | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time. And what sport or entertainment has a point in your opinion? One of the benefits of F1 is it has, for some years now, been developing hybrid power units. The internal combustion unit is only 1600cc and the amount of fuel it uses during the race is capped yet it can produce almost 1000 horsepower in qualification trim. The power units now have far higher efficiencies than normal engines and the technology that creates that is being passed into road vehicles. What point is there to football? Cricket, tennis, darts, etc etc. What technology is passed to road vehicles? " Elements of most areas like IC Engine design, brake technology, materials technology, energy recovery systems, electric motor design, tyre construction, fuel technology, vehicle sensoring, fuel economy, aerodynamics, Non bursting fuel tanks, crash protection, carbon fibre construction techniques, battery technology, sports psychology and, unusually, one team partnered with a NHS hospital, and used their technique for designing fast wheel changing to assist the hospital in more efficient operating theatre organisation, to name but a few. | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time. And what sport or entertainment has a point in your opinion? One of the benefits of F1 is it has, for some years now, been developing hybrid power units. The internal combustion unit is only 1600cc and the amount of fuel it uses during the race is capped yet it can produce almost 1000 horsepower in qualification trim. The power units now have far higher efficiencies than normal engines and the technology that creates that is being passed into road vehicles. What point is there to football? Cricket, tennis, darts, etc etc. What technology is passed to road vehicles? Elements of most areas like IC Engine design, brake technology, materials technology, energy recovery systems, electric motor design, tyre construction, fuel technology, vehicle sensoring, fuel economy, aerodynamics, Non bursting fuel tanks, crash protection, carbon fibre construction techniques, battery technology, sports psychology and, unusually, one team partnered with a NHS hospital, and used their technique for designing fast wheel changing to assist the hospital in more efficient operating theatre organisation, to name but a few. " The Williams team also helped reorganise and label the "crash cart" (defibrillator) for better safety and efficiency. | |||
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"I met Jackie Stewart once,he was a miserable cocknocker." I met him once as well. Seemed ok to me. | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time. And what sport or entertainment has a point in your opinion? One of the benefits of F1 is it has, for some years now, been developing hybrid power units. The internal combustion unit is only 1600cc and the amount of fuel it uses during the race is capped yet it can produce almost 1000 horsepower in qualification trim. The power units now have far higher efficiencies than normal engines and the technology that creates that is being passed into road vehicles. What point is there to football? Cricket, tennis, darts, etc etc. What technology is passed to road vehicles? Elements of most areas like IC Engine design, brake technology, materials technology, energy recovery systems, electric motor design, tyre construction, fuel technology, vehicle sensoring, fuel economy, aerodynamics, Non bursting fuel tanks, crash protection, carbon fibre construction techniques, battery technology, sports psychology and, unusually, one team partnered with a NHS hospital, and used their technique for designing fast wheel changing to assist the hospital in more efficient operating theatre organisation, to name but a few. The Williams team also helped reorganise and label the "crash cart" (defibrillator) for better safety and efficiency." The working with an NHS Trust was a publicity thing, they used the same basic improvement methodology as many trusts use as a matter of course. What they mainly did was give the staff time to implement ideas they already had but weren’t given permission or resource to do by the management. | |||
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"... Just drive the car you muppet.. Don't even bother doing that. Motor racing is as juvenile and pointless as tuning your car so that the exhaust goes 'Phut Phut Bang Bang' all the time. And what sport or entertainment has a point in your opinion? One of the benefits of F1 is it has, for some years now, been developing hybrid power units. The internal combustion unit is only 1600cc and the amount of fuel it uses during the race is capped yet it can produce almost 1000 horsepower in qualification trim. The power units now have far higher efficiencies than normal engines and the technology that creates that is being passed into road vehicles. What point is there to football? Cricket, tennis, darts, etc etc. What technology is passed to road vehicles? Elements of most areas like IC Engine design, brake technology, materials technology, energy recovery systems, electric motor design, tyre construction, fuel technology, vehicle sensoring, fuel economy, aerodynamics, Non bursting fuel tanks, crash protection, carbon fibre construction techniques, battery technology, sports psychology and, unusually, one team partnered with a NHS hospital, and used their technique for designing fast wheel changing to assist the hospital in more efficient operating theatre organisation, to name but a few. The Williams team also helped reorganise and label the "crash cart" (defibrillator) for better safety and efficiency. The working with an NHS Trust was a publicity thing, they used the same basic improvement methodology as many trusts use as a matter of course. What they mainly did was give the staff time to implement ideas they already had but weren’t given permission or resource to do by the management." Well indeed. I don't doubt they have some great tech relevant for racing cars and their rules. But a lot of it seems to be just fluff and self justifying spin. It justifies itself as its a money go round. But the altruistic stories... Oh its helped fuel efficiency? Has it? Really? If that was the case why are cars still struggling to get more than 50 mpg? | |||
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card…" I honestly don’t feel you’re qualified to suggest someone (who, by the way?) played ’The Race Card’ when you brought up colour in the first post, when it added nothing to your complaint (at least, when reading it for what it was, rather than between the lines) " Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? " She is, and he identifies with his black heritage and culture more than his white, why are you bringing this up, are you saying he isn't actually black? " I think all posts basically covered all sides of what I was trying to say in my original post.. I don’t care what colour or creed anyone is.. " I suspeect that you actually do, of all the things people have responded to, you have picked on Race, and have mentioned it 3 times already... " I treat people rich or poor how they treat me.. We are all allowed our opinions... I’m a white English male.. " 4… " Worked all me life.. And still do.. Funny how boohoo Hamilton didn’t bang on when he had the fastest car for was it 6 yrs?? I hate having the racism card rammed down my throat constantly!! " 5…. A simple google for "lewis hamilton racism site:news.bbc.co.uk” will give you many many many articles in which LH has commented on, discussed, or answered questions regarding this. Every year for over 15 years. Yes, even when he was winning. You seem to have that mervellous internal inconsistency that many ranters have of not having arguments that back each other up and indeed trip themselves up. Lewis (and EVERY OTHER DRIVER) took the knee in 2020. And 2021. in 2020 mercedes had a black colour scheme “to promote respect and equality… [and] to show our commitment to greater diversity within our team and our sport” (not LH words). Guess who had the fastest car and won in 2020 and 2021? Basically, LH says he was bullied at school by kids who were being racist, and 6 days later you see it and decide it’s been rammed down your throats forever (although not when he was winning, even though by your definition it was, and, it also wasn't.. er) and moan about it like he’s been on the front pages of todays papers being a diva for complaining about something he’s no right to complain about because he’s got money. He should just go drive his car, even though currently there isn't one to drive and testing isn’t allowed anyway. Bassically what you really want is for him to not exist in your life in any aspect. Still, as ever, threads like this are very good in outing those who I will never wish to meet or chat with, on a cellular level... | |||
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card… I honestly don’t feel you’re qualified to suggest someone (who, by the way?) played ’The Race Card’ when you brought up colour in the first post, when it added nothing to your complaint (at least, when reading it for what it was, rather than between the lines) Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? She is, and he identifies with his black heritage and culture more than his white, why are you bringing this up, are you saying he isn't actually black? " Well hes no more black than he is white, is he not? | |||
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card… I honestly don’t feel you’re qualified to suggest someone (who, by the way?) played ’The Race Card’ when you brought up colour in the first post, when it added nothing to your complaint (at least, when reading it for what it was, rather than between the lines) Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? She is, and he identifies with his black heritage and culture more than his white, why are you bringing this up, are you saying he isn't actually black? Well hes no more black than he is white, is he not? " But... But... Racism | |||
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card… I honestly don’t feel you’re qualified to suggest someone (who, by the way?) played ’The Race Card’ when you brought up colour in the first post, when it added nothing to your complaint (at least, when reading it for what it was, rather than between the lines) Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? She is, and he identifies with his black heritage and culture more than his white, why are you bringing this up, are you saying he isn't actually black? Well hes no more black than he is white, is he not? " Well then he’s can't have suffered racism then I guess. Who knew it was so simple 
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"Wow!!! Hiya all... I have read everyone’s posts.. And it’s all very interesting... I didn’t think it would take long before someone played the racism card… I honestly don’t feel you’re qualified to suggest someone (who, by the way?) played ’The Race Card’ when you brought up colour in the first post, when it added nothing to your complaint (at least, when reading it for what it was, rather than between the lines) Let’s not all forget??? Isn’t his mum white??? She is, and he identifies with his black heritage and culture more than his white, why are you bringing this up, are you saying he isn't actually black? Well hes no more black than he is white, is he not? Well then he’s can't have suffered racism then I guess. Who knew it was so simple
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"What I really respect were drivers from decades ago that competed in the sport for genuine love. It was nowhere near as well paid as it is now and FAR more dangerous. Modern F1 drivers should take that into consideration before moaning about their circumstances "‘Please don’t complain about racism, because white people used to die when cars were unsafe…’ | |||
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"What I really respect were drivers from decades ago that competed in the sport for genuine love. It was nowhere near as well paid as it is now and FAR more dangerous. Modern F1 drivers should take that into consideration before moaning about their circumstances
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‘Please don’t complain about racism, only white drivers ever get killed be grateful you’re in a minority’ ? All very fun sidetracking , but increasingly irrelevant to the thread "Whilst you're clearly getting triggered, suggest you look at the OP's original post again.. I just agree with him, that's all.. | |||
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" Clearly you have an opinion. To which I am not adverse to. Or rubbishing I may add. I'm merely pointing out a common misconception that the best driver's make F1! A driver is a package of ability, backing, market appeal etc.. Chosen as to how well they fit and benefit a team's agenda and strategy. It's a business, a ludicrous circus for the most part..." I agree, the best don’t, but what you are seemingly saying without saying is that by virtue of that argument, LH is an average driver, who has only got into his position because of his marketability, which agreed, is part of a drivers attractiveness to an F1 team. So, in the rich white mans world of F1, in the early 2000s when Ron Dennis first talent apotted LH (and it was telent spotting, not marketting spotting), it was because he thought he could make money off having a black driver? And yet, in the 20 ears since then, if simply finding a black driver who was half decent but would expand your marketting appeal = a show in driver who can win races and make money…. hoe come there’s still only 1 black driver, who still gets shit for being black? Honestly, every other driver on the grid is assessed by his driving skills, backing, and marketability. Every one. And yet, why is the black driver the one who is held accountable for this process? A driver who, when he BECAME an F1 driver, had no marketting appeal, no backers, just the admiration of a team owner for his driving ability? | |||
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"The amount of money it costs to develop and build an F1 car would feed over 100 000 poor families for year. That fact is something no decent human being should ever be comfortable with." Unfortunately the world doesn’t work like this, much as it would be nice And such comparisons are a) unfair, and b) available to point at absolutely any aspect of life, from why Chelsea are paying 1/3rd the cost of Mercedes annual F1 Bill for a single football player, to why someone bought a £40k tesla when they could have has a 15 year old Fiesta for £1k. The point is, those vastly inflated figures are not being paid or contributed to by the ones who can;t afford to feed themselves, so they are in no worse position if a sport like F1 does, or does not exist. They don’t get any richer, because a private business is now no longer operating. The money spent my those teams, is coming from elsewhere, not anyones welfare provision. And, for the most part, it’s an investment, not a bill, because they will earn money off the back of it, and also employ 10s of thousands of well paid engineers, marketers, designers, mechanics, drivers etc as well as entertaining millions. | |||
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"The amount of money it costs to develop and build an F1 car would feed over 100 000 poor families for year. That fact is something no decent human being should ever be comfortable with. Unfortunately the world doesn’t work like this, much as it would be nice And such comparisons are a) unfair, and b) available to point at absolutely any aspect of life, from why Chelsea are paying 1/3rd the cost of Mercedes annual F1 Bill for a single football player, to why someone bought a £40k tesla when they could have has a 15 year old Fiesta for £1k. The point is, those vastly inflated figures are not being paid or contributed to by the ones who can;t afford to feed themselves, so they are in no worse position if a sport like F1 does, or does not exist. They don’t get any richer, because a private business is now no longer operating. The money spent my those teams, is coming from elsewhere, not anyones welfare provision. And, for the most part, it’s an investment, not a bill, because they will earn money off the back of it, and also employ 10s of thousands of well paid engineers, marketers, designers, mechanics, drivers etc as well as entertaining millions." | |||
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" Clearly you have an opinion. To which I am not adverse to. Or rubbishing I may add. I'm merely pointing out a common misconception that the best driver's make F1! A driver is a package of ability, backing, market appeal etc.. Chosen as to how well they fit and benefit a team's agenda and strategy. It's a business, a ludicrous circus for the most part... I agree, the best don’t, but what you are seemingly saying without saying is that by virtue of that argument, LH is an average driver, who has only got into his position because of his marketability, which agreed, is part of a drivers attractiveness to an F1 team. So, in the rich white mans world of F1, in the early 2000s when Ron Dennis first talent apotted LH (and it was telent spotting, not marketting spotting), it was because he thought he could make money off having a black driver? And yet, in the 20 ears since then, if simply finding a black driver who was half decent but would expand your marketting appeal = a show in driver who can win races and make money…. hoe come there’s still only 1 black driver, who still gets shit for being black? Honestly, every other driver on the grid is assessed by his driving skills, backing, and marketability. Every one. And yet, why is the black driver the one who is held accountable for this process? A driver who, when he BECAME an F1 driver, had no marketting appeal, no backers, just the admiration of a team owner for his driving ability? Nope! - A very good driver (albeit, with enough support, money and track time, many are) - BS story on talent spotting (Had McLaren logos on his kart ffs, no one has that level of support at such a fledgling stage. Sorry, other than the very rich) - Being Black has absolutely nothing to do with it. Other than he continues to play that card and as OP's original post it's boring.. Enjoy your boats, planes, cars, multiple residence's, tax haven's, sham celebrity relationship's, etc.. Just refrain from bemoaning your life hardships and telling unprivileged people how to live their lives.. Therefore, Cock!! " | |||
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And just like that, we have circled back to the crux, a well wrapped up semi discussion that is there to seemingly show that there is a well thought out reason for why you think, in all simplicity, that he’s not allowed to say he’s suffered racism through his life because he’s rich. And let’s ignore every other driver with boats, planes, more than one house etc. Jackie Stewart moved to Switzerland to avoid paying tax, and still lives there. Want to villify him or is he too white?"Happy to address all points you raise, however it seems your 'argument' is the one circling.. Before doing so, I ask one question. Did you have any first hand experience of Lewis or motorsport in general? If your opinion and references are purely media and spectator based, I'll just bow out. I have unaware friends who support him and I just don't comment as it's their prerogative to do so.. My opinion is mine and first hand. | |||
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" Before doing so, I ask one question. Did you have any first hand experience of Lewis or motorsport in general? It’s of no relevance to the thread, though it may be relevant to where you took it. I have met him to shake hands, before the Hungarian GP in 2019. He didn't seem any different to any other driver I have briefly seen As I mentioned in a reply to someone else. It’s not about if he is a cock. He may well be one, and I totally get that. It’s about only calling him out for being one because he said something that triggered a white person, as per the OP post" Why do you constantly default to race? | |||
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" Before doing so, I ask one question. Did you have any first hand experience of Lewis or motorsport in general? It’s of no relevance to the thread, though it may be relevant to where you took it. I have met him to shake hands, before the Hungarian GP in 2019. He didn't seem any different to any other driver I have briefly seen As I mentioned in a reply to someone else. It’s not about if he is a cock. He may well be one, and I totally get that. It’s about only calling him out for being one because he said something that triggered a white person, as per the OP post Why do you constantly default to race? I presume you read the thread. In which the OP used race right at the top and then 5 times in his reply to peoples input, which were also largely concerned with race before I even replied once… That’s why. Because that is the discussion here. It’s not is Lewis a cock. It’s Lewis is a cock for complaining about racism, he should just drive the car, and pleasure himself quietly in is tax haven with his entourage, but by the way I’m not being racist, he really is a cock, although he was only signed becauase he’s black …. and and and. You can't see that?" Ok ill rephrase the question. Why do you constantly refer to 'white' people? | |||
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"I don't understand why because someone dislikes a black person it has to be racism. I don't warm to the chap. Not because he's black. He may be a great driver and he may do great things and other people may like him. But I don't. Ditto for verstappen. Webber I like. Russel, gasly, norris seem more likeable. Of course nowhere near Hamiltons achievements. But it's unhealthy and lazy and offensive just to play the racism card. " This is very fair to say, but relies on those people not having already played the card first, because that’s far lazier.that card was played in post 1 by the OP, and again by many more detractors before I or others felt it some balance was needed. | |||
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"I don't understand why because someone dislikes a black person it has to be racism. I don't warm to the chap. Not because he's black. He may be a great driver and he may do great things and other people may like him. But I don't. Ditto for verstappen. Webber I like. Russel, gasly, norris seem more likeable. Of course nowhere near Hamiltons achievements. But it's unhealthy and lazy and offensive just to play the racism card. This is very fair to say, but relies on those people not having already played the card first, because that’s far lazier.that card was played in post 1 by the OP, and again by many more detractors before I or others felt it some balance was needed." Actually it was already relatively balanced until the OP replied himself ignored every post above where lots of people above had said they dislike him without mentioning or hinting at race, and went on a tangent about how many had brought race into it, which few had although he did 5 times in one post… that’s when I thought I’d spend 2p | |||
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"The saddest thing about the "internet generation" is people can "hate" so easily someone they have never met, someone who they never will meet and someone who has had no direct impact on their lives. Where in Hell did all this hate come from?? Has hate become devalued or are we really that quick to go to the very worst human emotion? " Very true. And it seems to be getting worse. I suppose it's anonymous keyboard users making statements for responses and searching out like minded responses to affirm their existence? | |||
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"Hi all.. wow!! This is gathering pace!! My original post was because I read again another bs statement headline from Hamilton that he had been bullied at school... Like all his articles I’ve give up reading about him as I’ve just had enough of him... I fall in and out of love watching different sports and the last few seasons have been awesome as cars have been closer in performance and really shown even in lesser cars how good all the other drivers are... Like leclerc interviews when he has been totally shafted by his team again..just talks about race and cock ups and that’s it... " Why dies him talking about childhood bullying equate to him not having a clue about life whatever his colour? Which was yiur opening comment? Do you think a mixed race kid in an overwhelmingly white town wouldn't be a target fir bullying, | |||
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"Race is of no consequence at all for me! I've worked with him and his brother Nicholas.. The latter has far more to potentially be bitter about! Also many of Spanish, Indian, Chinese, Japanese decent. But Lewis is just a cock in my opinion. "I can only imagine you can’t see how revealing this statement is - shrug…. | |||
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"Hes a racist fuck with absolutely no talent. He's certainly no Schumacher in his prime. The sooner he retires or emigrates to the centre of an exploding sun, the better. If he has no talent how is he so successful? You don't need talent to be successful in the 21st Century. Just pull the race card like he does every 5 seconds. He is quick to forget he is part Caucasian when he is having one of his many 'why I hate white people and how they destroyed my life' rants. Along with his racist black student only sporting programs. I’ll just go and tell all the Olympics contestants. And Oscars nominees "The majority of 2020s Oscar so called talent can't act to save their lives. Certainly aren't Al Pacino or David Jason. And he can't drive. At all. David Couthard was a million times better than he ever was. | |||
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"Hes a racist fuck with absolutely no talent. He's certainly no Schumacher in his prime. The sooner he retires or emigrates to the centre of an exploding sun, the better. If he has no talent how is he so successful? You don't need talent to be successful in the 21st Century. Just pull the race card like he does every 5 seconds. He is quick to forget he is part Caucasian when he is having one of his many 'why I hate white people and how they destroyed my life' rants. Along with his racist black student only sporting programs. So playing the race card got hom to being world champion? It may as well have done the amount he plays it because he sure as fuck can't drive. He's no Schumacher." I dont understand? How does playing the race card give him an advantage, do the other drivers give him a head start? How do you get to world champion in F1 if he has no talent? | |||
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"Hes a racist fuck with absolutely no talent. He's certainly no Schumacher in his prime. The sooner he retires or emigrates to the centre of an exploding sun, the better. If he has no talent how is he so successful? You don't need talent to be successful in the 21st Century. Just pull the race card like he does every 5 seconds. He is quick to forget he is part Caucasian when he is having one of his many 'why I hate white people and how they destroyed my life' rants. Along with his racist black student only sporting programs. So playing the race card got hom to being world champion? It may as well have done the amount he plays it because he sure as fuck can't drive. He's no Schumacher. I dont understand? How does playing the race card give him an advantage, do the other drivers give him a head start? How do you get to world champion in F1 if he has no talent?" A lot of those races were rigged anyway. His opponents suddenly have major car trouble on the starting line? Yh right. Pull the other one. | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy." He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. | |||
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The majority of 2020s Oscar so called talent can't act to save their lives. Certainly aren't Al Pacino or David Jason. And he can't drive. At all.
David Couthard was a million times better than he ever was. "No. Of course he can't drive. What were we thinking. I shouldn't throw around insults in the forum, but you are a seriously deluded man. All you have done is show your ignorance | |||
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The majority of 2020s Oscar so called talent can't act to save their lives. Certainly aren't Al Pacino or David Jason. And he can't drive. At all.
David Couthard was a million times better than he ever was.
No. Of course he can't drive. What were we thinking.
I shouldn't throw around insults in the forum, but you are a seriously deluded man.
All you have done is show your ignorance"No I'm not the deluded one, I don't lap up his lies and insults like you clearly do. How anyone can defend this scumbag is beyond me. | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. " No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. | |||
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"Hi all..in reply to someone’s post...as we have gone totally different tangent... In the late 70,s in Surrey my best friend at 7yrs old was a black kid who moved in across the rd.. and we’re still good mates 40yrs later..when I think back now trust me him and his brother were top lads...both fostered.so hard life..and they were the only black people I knew personally...and it never crossed my mind bout colour... we were just a couple of pain in the arse kids running a muck... So plse don’t say I’m a racist etc... I’m allowed my opinion about anything.. I just wish they would just let us enjoy our sport after another shit 80 hr work wk... " Oh Hamilton defo let's colour cross his mind. He cant go a day without slagging off white people. Forgetting that he is half white. | |||
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"The amount of money it costs to develop and build an F1 car would feed over 100 000 poor families for year. That fact is something no decent human being should ever be comfortable with." Imagine how many poor families could be fed if the world stops funding fucking missions to Mars ! | |||
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The majority of 2020s Oscar so called talent can't act to save their lives. Certainly aren't Al Pacino or David Jason. And he can't drive. At all.
David Couthard was a million times better than he ever was.
No. Of course he can't drive. What were we thinking.
I shouldn't throw around insults in the forum, but you are a seriously deluded man.
All you have done is show your ignorance
No I'm not the deluded one, I don't lap up his lies and insults like you clearly do. How anyone can defend this scumbag is beyond me. "Why are you assuming i "lap up his lies and insults"? I dont even read his comments or interviews. So, his wins were rigged? And he cant drive? And what is 'his own race'?? You really dont have a clue, do you. Id love to have a battle of wits with you, but i never fight an unarmed man | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. " Has he ever called people nazis? Also he is mixed race, I'm not sure what you mean by 'own race'? | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. Has he ever called people nazis? Also he is mixed race, I'm not sure what you mean by 'own race'?" Mixed race is part white. One of his parents is white. As i said his own race. And yes many a time he has called white people nazis but quickly shut the convo down when he was told he is sponsored by the company that literally built a fleet for the nazis themselves. He happily takes money from them no question. | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. Has he ever called people nazis? Also he is mixed race, I'm not sure what you mean by 'own race'? Mixed race is part white. One of his parents is white. As i said his own race. And yes many a time he has called white people nazis but quickly shut the convo down when he was told he is sponsored by the company that literally built a fleet for the nazis themselves. He happily takes money from them no question. " I can't find a single source on line thst he has called white people nazis? He is vocal about issues of race but I'm not sure any of that comes close to be equitable to calling people nazis. Similarly I can't see anything he's said that is overtly racist | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. Has he ever called people nazis? Also he is mixed race, I'm not sure what you mean by 'own race'? Mixed race is part white. One of his parents is white. As i said his own race. And yes many a time he has called white people nazis but quickly shut the convo down when he was told he is sponsored by the company that literally built a fleet for the nazis themselves. He happily takes money from them no question. I can't find a single source on line thst he has called white people nazis? He is vocal about issues of race but I'm not sure any of that comes close to be equitable to calling people nazis. Similarly I can't see anything he's said that is overtly racist" Ive done exactly the same...i couldn't find a single comment where he's called anyone Nazis. But ill keep looking Lots of people slagging him off for driving for Mercedes and wearing Hugo Boss though, with their connections to the Nazis Arent you glad he explained what 'mixed race' meant? | |||
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. Has he ever called people nazis? Also he is mixed race, I'm not sure what you mean by 'own race'? Mixed race is part white. One of his parents is white. As i said his own race. And yes many a time he has called white people nazis but quickly shut the convo down when he was told he is sponsored by the company that literally built a fleet for the nazis themselves. He happily takes money from them no question. I can't find a single source on line thst he has called white people nazis? He is vocal about issues of race but I'm not sure any of that comes close to be equitable to calling people nazis. Similarly I can't see anything he's said that is overtly racist" Try looking elsewhere than the guardian or independent and you will find it. | |||
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"I don’t care if this gets me a ban, but someone on this thread is an absolute knuckle dragging piece of shit and I’m happy to say so." Ok fella whatever you say. Objecting to Hamilton and his anti white comments makes me a knuckle dragger then I'm happy to be named as one. Since you leftwing fucks have absolutely no other insult. I'm sick of my race being belittled and shat on by the left, and this little shitcunt Hamilton. So fuck you. | |||
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"I don’t care if this gets me a ban, but someone on this thread is an absolute knuckle dragging piece of shit and I’m happy to say so. Ok fella whatever you say. Objecting to Hamilton and his anti white comments makes me a knuckle dragger then I'm happy to be named as one. Since you leftwing fucks have absolutely no other insult. I'm sick of my race being belittled and shat on by the left, and this little shitcunt Hamilton. So fuck you. " Weird you thought it was you I meant…  | |||
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"I don’t care if this gets me a ban, but someone on this thread is an absolute knuckle dragging piece of shit and I’m happy to say so. Ok fella whatever you say. Objecting to Hamilton and his anti white comments makes me a knuckle dragger then I'm happy to be named as one. Since you leftwing fucks have absolutely no other insult. I'm sick of my race being belittled and shat on by the left, and this little shitcunt Hamilton. So fuck you. Weird you thought it was you I meant… "Oh I've been called a knuckle dragger by leftwing fucks for objecting to Hamilton before. I know exactly who you meant. | |||
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"I don’t care if this gets me a ban, but someone on this thread is an absolute knuckle dragging piece of shit and I’m happy to say so. Ok fella whatever you say. Objecting to Hamilton and his anti white comments makes me a knuckle dragger then I'm happy to be named as one. Since you leftwing fucks have absolutely no other insult. I'm sick of my race being belittled and shat on by the left, and this little shitcunt Hamilton. So fuck you. Weird you thought it was you I meant…
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"Good driver who knows how to drive the car thats built around him. I would argue that George Russell is a better driver. Russel jumped into Hamilton's car, which he was too tall for, and arguably would have won in it had it not been for the pitstop feck up and the puncture. I understand that Hamilton may have had more than a leg up to get him to F1... No leg up for Lewis. His father worked all hours to get the money together for him to race karts. He did well enough to get attention from Ron Dennis at McLaren who then took him under his wing. George Russell was better funded and got onto the Mercedes driver academy. He was still funded by McLaren in his early kart racing career, used to see him at PF international circuit with the kid that looked like the milky bar kid who sold a story years later saying he was neglected because he was white. They both had all the latest kit and a big silver brand new Mercedes van and awning but no McLaren / west branding for obvious reasons. No you got the story wrong. It was Hamilton saying he was neglected by the big bad white people. Like he always does. Always attacks and slanders his own race. Ironic when he is pulling the racism card and calling us whites Nazis when he is sponsored by the company that literally built the nazi car fleet (Mercedes). Fuck Lewis Hamilton. Has he ever called people nazis? Also he is mixed race, I'm not sure what you mean by 'own race'? Mixed race is part white. One of his parents is white. As i said his own race. And yes many a time he has called white people nazis but quickly shut the convo down when he was told he is sponsored by the company that literally built a fleet for the nazis themselves. He happily takes money from them no question. I can't find a single source on line thst he has called white people nazis? He is vocal about issues of race but I'm not sure any of that comes close to be equitable to calling people nazis. Similarly I can't see anything he's said that is overtly racist Try looking elsewhere than the guardian or independent and you will find it. " There is literally not one news story searching on Google substantiating your allegations thst he has called white people nazis | |||
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