FabSwingers.com forum: December's gas and electricity bill

By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago

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It really is scary how much bills have gone up. When I moved in this house just over 20 years ago my energy bill was less than £100 a month, December was over 500 and that's with the house being vacant for one week.

The price cap went up on January the 1st so I'm really not looking forward to January bill.

I have made as many changes as I can do, in how we use the house, but there are five of us living here and and little more I can do do to cut down on energy costs.

Are you doing ok with your energy?

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By *urchoicenowCouple
over a year ago

Ashford

We are lucky in that we have solar, but using that to its optimum and changing suppliers has helped us. Might be worth looking at suppliers, we moved to utility warehouse which is widely available

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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago

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"We are lucky in that we have solar, but using that to its optimum and changing suppliers has helped us. Might be worth looking at suppliers, we moved to utility warehouse which is widely available "

Thank you, I'm with octopus at the moment I will check out utility warehouse

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

Not a clue rent a room and pay fixed amount each month

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

No we're not. We're thanking goodness for mild weather but in cold weather we limit how much heating we use etc

£500 for an empty house seems extremely high though

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

Gosh that’s high!!

Ours is £212 for gas & electricity. It’s gone up from £160 ish (for the past few years)

Only 2 of us but we have the heating on A LOT plus gas fire etc. we’re in credit too - just under £200 (British gas & we’re not on a fixed deal)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I've slashed my usage and my bills have gone up about 30%. I don't think I can cut much more

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

I record gas and electric usage once a week. I've a spreadsheet which calculates running cost total. At least I know what to expect with regard to bills.

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By *iamond couple twoCouple
over a year ago

Wakefield

I’m using about £12 a day for gas

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By *ickshawedCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

That sounds similar to my parents house. They said theirs was about £500 for the month this winter. But they live in a big old house with very high ceilings, plus they don't want to get cold.

Ours has doubled from a year or so back to about £150 a month, though I haven't checked what's it's actually costing a month now it's winter, as we were in credit. Our house is newer and smaller than my parents house, and a lot easier to heat.

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By *ood time Chris BMan
over a year ago

TAUNTON AREA

"I record gas and electric usage once a week. I've a spreadsheet which calculates running cost total. At least I know what to expect with regard to bills."

Yes I do the same and have done for the past 6 years

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By *oah VailMan
over a year ago

Dover

We have a big house, with five occupants. The cost of utilities has effectively tripled, but we have managed to reduce our usage enough that our monthly bill has “merely” doubled. About £600 a month with the heating on.

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS
over a year ago

Exeter

I'm too scared to look at it - I honestly haven't checked what the payment is for about 8 months!

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By *osaint1971Couple
over a year ago

Near Taunton

Wholesale gas prices have returned to pre Ukraine war levels yet we are still paying through the nose and at least twice what most Europeans pay. We are being forced in to poverty. Ask yourself why?

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

We're on pre-payment meters for gas and bevause it's a small flat the £66 a month we get covers electricity.

We are being very frugal with the heating though, we took the gas off DD as even submitting meter readings for the 5 years we've lived here which must give them a good estimate of our usage they hugely over-estimate our use. They charge us quarterly but we submit a meter reading each month which calculates the amount due and we're paying that monthly now. If it causes them problems with their billing that's their problem, I'm not overpaying or being hit with a large quarterly amount.

Our biggest problem is living in a flat and not having a tumble dryer we've always relied on the heating to dry our washing which is a nightmare with trying to keep the heating off.

I'm thankful we have such a small flat to be honest as we are very much limiting but still feeling the pinch

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By *ood time Chris BMan
over a year ago

TAUNTON AREA

"Wholesale gas prices have returned to pre Ukraine war levels yet we are still paying through the nose and at least twice what most Europeans pay. We are being forced in to poverty. Ask yourself why?"

I wish I knew the answer to that,personally I believe that the energy companies are guilty of exploiting the situation, I also dont know why the standing charge has quadrupled

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS
over a year ago

Exeter

Same with petrol / diesel - I read somewhere that the cost of crude oil is pre-war but pump prices are still disproportionally high

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

We're paying £200 a month for dual fuel. 3 bed, draughty late 1910s ex-council house with 4 adult occupants and a child. We have one person WFH at least 2 days per week and our adult child + lodger cook their meal separately most days, so we do 2x hot mealtimes each day.

£500 does seem very high. We are with OVO, transferred from Atlantic SSE.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£500 Is a lot but I have heard similar. Its colder up here so people have heating on more. Very tough for people, im lucky to have a new house with good insulation makes a big difference

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"I'm too scared to look at it - I honestly haven't checked what the payment is for about 8 months!

Don't do this. It really could bite you in the bum.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

It was brutally cold here for about 10 days in December (I'm only a few miles from the OP) with snow and ice on the ground for all that time so I suspect heating use was significantly up for many people. Add to that the shortest days of the year meanibg lights are on longer, I suspect December will have seen many people have exceptionally high bills last month

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I have pre payment meters and the £66 more than covers ny electricity. I put about £200 a month on my gas but since I've bought an oodie I don't have my heating on at night anymore

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

£78 did my gas and electricity for a 3 bud house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was just under £80 assume that will change when my fixed rate ends though.

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

Luckily mine only went up about £20 from last year.

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

We have someone home most of the time so we probably pay more than others Gas is £488 and electric £258 for December.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just watched BBC weather,the average temp this morning was 10-12 degrees warmer than average. Staying that way for a week. November was the warmest on record,17-18 degrees here.Cold comfort I know (no pun intended) but thank God it's a mild winter so far

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

"We have someone home most of the time so we probably pay more than others Gas is £488 and electric £258 for December."

Wow thank god I was sat down when I saw this!!!! How on earth can that be justified??

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
over a year ago

Glasgow / London

I know this isn’t a competition but my December bills are higher than anyone else has shared here so far. It’s unsustainable. Something in the system is going to break soon, and unfortunately it’s us, isn’t it? The regular people of the UK.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"We have someone home most of the time so we probably pay more than others Gas is £488 and electric £258 for December."

That’s pretty much mine too. It’s bloody ridiculous

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Some of these number seem bonkers high

Our house's gas and electricity comes to about £150-200 in the last few months, heating's on and we're both working at home so two PCs constantly on too. (With Bulb/ Octopus for reference)

LvM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People saying wholesale gas is back to "normal " pricewise. Not sure about that but I do know OFGEM is protecting energy companies profits.Supposed to be on our side but energy companies reported record profits last year and not by a small margin

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"We have someone home most of the time so we probably pay more than others Gas is £488 and electric £258 for December.

Wow thank god I was sat down when I saw this!!!! How on earth can that be justified?? "

We're fortunate in that we can afford it. How can it be justified though? It can't.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I know this isn’t a competition but my December bills are higher than anyone else has shared here so far. It’s unsustainable. Something in the system is going to break soon, and unfortunately it’s us, isn’t it? The regular people of the UK."

Yes. Combined with other factors, we're heading into a depression and a huge drop in quality of life. It doesn't have to be this way.

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

"Some of these number seem bonkers high

Our house's gas and electricity comes to about £150-200 in the last few months, heating's on and we're both working at home so two PCs constantly on too. (With Bulb/ Octopus for reference)

LvM"

I'm with them, think we might be lucky to have smaller houses than some.

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By *moothpussyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Think it's time we all protested and ousted the tory government. It's a horrid situation to be in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine has gone up slightly in the last few days but I'm on a variable rate and had the heating on quite a bit over Christmas. I've switched it off again now and won't put it back on unless the temp really drops. I'm with OVO and pay about £160 a month for both.

Pxx

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

"Some of these number seem bonkers high

Our house's gas and electricity comes to about £150-200 in the last few months, heating's on and we're both working at home so two PCs constantly on too. (With Bulb/ Octopus for reference)

LvM"

This blows our minds too! Some of my friends are paying 3 times what we do.

It’s a 4 bedroom house. It’s a real head scratcher the range of bills people are facing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think it's time we all protested and ousted the tory government. It's a horrid situation to be in.

You have Wee Nickie, nothing to do with the Tories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think it's time we all protested and ousted the tory government. It's a horrid situation to be in.

You have Wee Nickie, nothing to do with the Tories. "

Wee nickie will charge anyone who is working double their gas and electric bill

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
over a year ago

Glasgow / London

"You have Wee Nickie, nothing to do with the Tories. "

Nonsense. The Westminster government are responsible for almost every factor that’s led to these energy prices in the UK.

If anything Scotland’s being unfairly dragged down. Despite generating and using a much higher proportion of renewable energy up here, the prices of that are still artificially tied to those of fossil fuels. If they weren’t, bills in Scotland would be lower than those in the rest of the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have Wee Nickie, nothing to do with the Tories.

Nonsense. The Westminster government are responsible for almost every factor that’s led to these energy prices in the UK.

Aw,don't you like truth? £18k a year per head from Westminster unlike the English who get £12k.All policies are set by Wee Nickie and she has destroyed Scotland which was a fantastic country.As for your renewables did you know Wee Nickie sells it to England which artificially increases Scottish energy bills?She takes the money to waste while Scots struggle. Take off your blinkers and see how bad she is

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Think it's time we all protested and ousted the tory government. It's a horrid situation to be in.

You have Wee Nickie, nothing to do with the Tories. "

This whole mess is everything to do with the tories

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"You have Wee Nickie, nothing to do with the Tories.

Nonsense. The Westminster government are responsible for almost every factor that’s led to these energy prices in the UK.

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

My Nov - Dec was the highest bill I've ever had since I've been paying bills... Even though my usage is down from last year. Mostly due to a new boiler and thermostat I think making it easier to set temps and timing. Had my son at home for the hols, so next month will likely be alot too.

Hoping the weather stays mild now until the spring!

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By *oft_SensualTV/TS
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Energy suppliers buy energy on a volatile market- they have limited capacity to store cheap energy because they haven't invested in storage facilities.

The root of the problem is selling off UK infrastructure and failing to own the means of production - i.e investing in clean/renewable energy on a national level and the disjointed mechanisms between supply and infrastructure.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

"We have someone home most of the time so we probably pay more than others Gas is £488 and electric £258 for December."

Wow that’s extortionate

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By *haron StonerTV/TS
over a year ago

Haywards Heath

I'm on a 3 year fixed, it's so cheap, EDF said they weren't going to give me my energy discount!

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

I read my meter every morning as I'm leaving for work and I'm using about 15 units a day. Obviously it varies though.

I live in an old farm cottage built in 1765 and it's cold as soon as the heating goes off. Luckily I also have a log burner which is on every evening and a portable gas heater if I need instant heat.

I've made changes:

I shower every other day instead of every day.

I only switch the water heating on for an hour before I have a shower and use a kettle if I need hot water for anything else.

I adjust the heating as to when I'll be in the house every day, rather than just have it coming on twice every day regardless.

Clothes that don't touch my skin, I wear for a day or two longer, therefore less washing.

Always switch off all electrical sockets if they're not being used and if I'm out overnight I'll switch the WiFi and clock radio of as well.

Last winter my electric bills were £60-£70, this winter around £120-£130, less the government rebate.

This morning I learned my direct debit is going up from £1 to £1.68 a month, I'm sure I can manage that.

I've been saving electric since April and built up a £300 credit as I kept the DD amount the same as I wasn't sure how much it would go up. If I get to April and I still have credit left, I'll ask for it back. No gas in the a small village in the Mendip hills.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm on a 3 year fixed, it's so cheap, EDF said they weren't going to give me my energy discount!

I hope you got it.

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

"I read my meter every morning as I'm leaving for work and I'm using about 15 units a day. Obviously it varies though.

I live in an old farm cottage built in 1765 and it's cold as soon as the heating goes off. Luckily I also have a log burner which is on every evening and a portable gas heater if I need instant heat.

I've made changes:

I shower every other day instead of every day.

I only switch the water heating on for an hour before I have a shower and use a kettle if I need hot water for anything else.

I adjust the heating as to when I'll be in the house every day, rather than just have it coming on twice every day regardless.

Clothes that don't touch my skin, I wear for a day or two longer, therefore less washing.

Always switch off all electrical sockets if they're not being used and if I'm out overnight I'll switch the WiFi and clock radio of as well.

Last winter my electric bills were £60-£70, this winter around £120-£130, less the government rebate.

This morning I learned my direct debit is going up from £1 to £1.68 a month, I'm sure I can manage that.

I'm similar, I got an email in November to say due to my credit they were dropping my monthly payment to £1, I put it back up myself just in case.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

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By *r_North-EastMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

We live in a very energy efficient house so we aren’t getting hit as badly as most on this thread but the cap is going to increase again in April and i’m really starting to worry about it.

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By *r_North-EastMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds.

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

Mine is hovering around the êyê-watering £270 per month.

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
over a year ago

Glasgow / London

"The root of the problem is selling off UK infrastructure and failing to own the means of production - i.e investing in clean/renewable energy on a national level and the disjointed mechanisms between supply and infrastructure.

That’s the root cause, agreed.

But many nations’ governments are compensating on behalf of their citizens by capping bills at fairer levels and restricting profits for the energy companies. The Tories, erm, aren’t.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds."

I got it back about a month ago. After... several months of bitching about it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"We live in a very energy efficient house so we aren’t getting hit as badly as most on this thread but the cap is going to increase again in April and i’m really starting to worry about it."

Yes. I think that's going to be breaking point for a lot of people. Or the winter after that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Currently paying £63 a month. Heating on as I want but being careful with everything. That is after government discount though so will at least double come April

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By *r_North-EastMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds.

I got it back about a month ago. After... several months of bitching about it."

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What Swing didn't tell you is how she went and blew half of that on MAC, Benefit, Jimmy Choo and Pat McGrath cosmetics.

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By *r_North-EastMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds.

I got it back about a month ago. After... several months of bitching about it."

The closest we ever got to giving a refund was “free” gas and electricity for 6 months.

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By *r_North-EastMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"We live in a very energy efficient house so we aren’t getting hit as badly as most on this thread but the cap is going to increase again in April and i’m really starting to worry about it.

Yes. I think that's going to be breaking point for a lot of people. Or the winter after that."

Definitely by the winter. We both work and get a decent enough wage. If we’re worrying I can’t begin to imagine how much single parents or people that can’t/don’t work must be feeling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Showing off is no longer driving a fancy car its inviting your mates round and having heating on full blast

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Energy suppliers buy energy on a volatile market- they have limited capacity to store cheap energy because they haven't invested in storage facilities.

I was about to say something similar .. gas prices increased due to Russian sanctions and Europe having to wean itself off resulting in it buying so much last year, it caused effective shortages.

Now Europe has filled their stores up - with enough to get through the winter, gas isn't in as much demand so prices are falling.

Our own storage (Rough) has been brought back online after it fell into disrepair. There's been a few countries bringing back old energy facilities like coal, biomas and nuclear to share load.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds.

I got it back about a month ago. After... several months of bitching about it.

The closest we ever got to giving a refund was “free” gas and electricity for 6 months."

If they hadn't after my last complaint I was getting to letters to anyone and everyone plus a daily meter reading malicious compliance style. (their last trick was "please supply a meter reading within last seven days". Ok, the meter reading before was ten minutes before that email, the fact you took three weeks to reply is not my problem. Have another)

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By *r_North-EastMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds.

I got it back about a month ago. After... several months of bitching about it.

The closest we ever got to giving a refund was “free” gas and electricity for 6 months.

If I’ve ever got a problem with a company I’m coming to you

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By *hrissieTV/TS
over a year ago

Colchester

I'm spending £668 a month on gas and electricity. I have a large 5 bed house but we keep it at 20° all the time so I dont know where the energy is being used. In the summer I replaced the boiler for a more efficient one and the only thing that has happened is that my bill increased by 110 pound a month

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By *haron StonerTV/TS
over a year ago

Haywards Heath

"I'm on a 3 year fixed, it's so cheap, EDF said they weren't going to give me my energy discount!

I hope you got it."

I do have it! Lolz! I signed just before the shit hit the fan in April!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I can’t work out why but mines gone down £43 a month from summer.

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By *haron StonerTV/TS
over a year ago

Haywards Heath

"I'm spending £668 a month on gas and electricity. I have a large 5 bed house but we keep it at 20° all the time so I dont know where the energy is being used. In the summer I replaced the boiler for a more efficient one and the only thing that has happened is that my bill increased by 110 pound a month "

You need to set the timer, reduce the water and heating temp. I don't need scalding water out of my taps, just warm enough to wash my hands comfortably and I have an electric 10kw shower that runs off the two tanks (80gallons) in the loft. I use gas and electric for my water cylinder. Gas for normal everyday and electric when I want to boil my nuts in the bath.

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By *haron StonerTV/TS
over a year ago

Haywards Heath

When you use utility warehouse, go compare or anyone else,they get 50 to 100 for switching you. Do it yourself and save.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

I'm guessing keeping a house that size at a constant 29 degrees is whare a lot of the energy is being used!

Surely the whole house doesn't need to be that warm all the time?

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By *ooBulMan
over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

I'm doing ok in my present found situation. Others aren't as so lucky as me....

But, when you hear about a working mum & dad on zero contracts working all hours or nurses going to food banks and struggling too - it just breaks my heart.

I'd really like to know are energy co.'s making tons of cash over what they are charging us? Would they ever tell that one to us all?

I've noticed they owed me quite a bit but still put my D/D up?

I do everything that's suggested. Have slow cooker. tend not to cook over longer times than 45 mins. Occasionally 1hr. If I do use the oven its no longer than 30/40-45 mins. Things like that. Got a microwave. Did loads of research as to get an air fryer. Came to the conclusion it's about the same as an oven for me.

Its the best I can do...

What's left? Korean fire pits to keep warm? Barbequing in the snow? Don't laugh I could be doin' it....LOL.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

December's Bill roughly 400 yes I live in a big house alone but im out 12 hrs at least and sleep at least 6 don't really have heating on but do have a bath every night so not much I can do to change it.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"Some of these number seem bonkers high

Our house's gas and electricity comes to about £150-200 in the last few months, heating's on and we're both working at home so two PCs constantly on too. (With Bulb/ Octopus for reference)

LvM"

We’re with Bulb too & average about £150 a month - am expecting a big one this time but we are in credit. Always someone at home but we’ve hardly had the heating on - did meter readings this morning & gulped

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

I'm guessing keeping a house that size at a constant 29 degrees is whare a lot of the energy is being used!

Surely the whole house doesn't need to be that warm all the time?"

Whoops, I obviously meant 20 degrees

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Mine works out to about £200 a month. There are 3 of us.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds.

I got it back about a month ago. After... several months of bitching about it.

The closest we ever got to giving a refund was “free” gas and electricity for 6 months.

If I’ve ever got a problem with a company I’m coming to you

Firm polite emails, persistence, and malicious compliance

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By *orthmanMan
over a year ago

Kendal

Gas prices are for 'gas futures' i.e. a contracted price for delivery several months in the future. There is a lag between quoted gas futures and the wholesale amd retail prices being paid today. Thus the high prices we are currently paying are for futures which were negotiated say mid last year- these being high because they anticipated the high gas demand of winter.

The lower gas futures quoted now should be reflected in lower wholesale and retail prices in the summer, when demand is at its lowest.

Assuming nothing much changes in terms of global gas supply and demand in the next six months, futures prices will then increase in the summer in anticipation of the demand in winter 2023-24.

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By *antricSeeker60Man
over a year ago

Durham

What with home working being the normal for many we’ve all got udies on and fingerless gloves.

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

"I built up a £1000 credit and asked for most of it back

Good luck with that. I used to work for an energy company and we would try every trick in the book to avoid refunds."

I just asked for it online, didn't even have to speak to anyone. Simple.

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

It's being used to keep it up to 20°... Doesn't need to be on 24/7.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

Mine was £20 as they overcharged me last two months my smart meter wasn’t working

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By *osaint1971Couple
over a year ago

Near Taunton

"Wholesale gas prices have returned to pre Ukraine war levels yet we are still paying through the nose and at least twice what most Europeans pay. We are being forced in to poverty. Ask yourself why?

The lower gas futures quoted now should be reflected in lower wholesale and retail prices in the summer, when demand is at its lowest.

Assuming nothing much changes in terms of global gas supply and demand in the next six months, futures prices will then increase in the summer in anticipation of the demand in winter 2023-24."

That makes sense.

Have you heard doomberg talk on energy?

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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

Maybe it's a slightly stealthy way of forcing us to use less to help climate situation

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I think the government are so in debt over Covid, Furlough and the rest of it, throw the war in Ukraine into it they are getting their money back this way rather than taxing us in a huge way and causing uproar.

The UK pension pot is tied up in Shell and BP that's why there's no huge windfall tax on them. I think same thing has happened here with the energy. Gas more than electric as they can blame Putin.

The UK signed a deal with The USA a few months back to provide gas by ship to us, there's still been no reduce in cost.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Last December my duel fuel bill was £120 for the month. This year, £511...nearly had heart attack!

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By *haron StonerTV/TS
over a year ago

Haywards Heath

Don't use smart meters, the bastards can switch you to pre pay whenever they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My gas in November was £100,

In December was £230.

Elevtric, around £130 each month.

3 bed house with 3 people. One of which needs to be looked after well as they are classed as immunosuppressed. So whe it comes to heating I don't let the house get cold.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

Profits for the energy companies going through the roof.

As long as the shareholders are ok, never mind the public.

Thieving b'starda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a really old, draughty house.. I have used the heating occasionally (put it on when it snowed), but i work from home and have an electric car.

My usage is down vastly from last year, but bills have still doubled

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im just closing my eyes and trying to ignore it. Wont be terribly effective when the bill drops on the mat but I will just flog a bit more furniture or find some lead on a roof or something to pay it. Times are shite indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's greed. Energy companies and petrol stations will milk this for as long as they can.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Don't use smart meters, the bastards can switch you to pre pay whenever they want. "

I don't want one, but I'm on an old E7 meter what are my rights and options?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe it's a slightly stealthy way of forcing us to use less to help climate situation"

I wondered this.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"Don't use smart meters, the bastards can switch you to pre pay whenever they want.

I don't want one, but I'm on an old E7 meter what are my rights and options?"

You can still get dule tariff meters if anything they are making a come back with car charges.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"Maybe it's a slightly stealthy way of forcing us to use less to help climate situation

I wondered this. "

No as I'm just burning what I can on the log burner to heat the house cheep.

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By *estinyIsAllCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

We're in a 3/4 bed semi-detached, 4 of us live here and ours has just gone up again now to £332. We only have the heating on twice a day in cold weather, morning for 2 hours and evening for an hour. The house is rented and is poorly insulated though which makes it complicated. We haven't really made any alterations to our usage though as Fumble is a remote worker so we've got to just get on with it.

- Dumble x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was £697 in total for December

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's being used to keep it up to 20°... Doesn't need to be on 24/7."

Exactly.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

5 people in my house. Dual fuel with EDF just coming off a fixed deal, £700 in credit dd going up from £220 a month to £430

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

"5 people in my house. Dual fuel with EDF just coming off a fixed deal, £700 in credit dd going up from £220 a month to £430

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By *tagman6930Man
over a year ago

SW London

I paid £292 a month for all of 2022. Just got the new figure for 2023 - going up to £521 a month.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I pay as I go with a card which I top up whenever I need too. I'm topping up more, but things haven't increased for me like what I'm reading here.

I get letters offering a smart meter but I'm not sure if I want to go down that route.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"5 people in my house. Dual fuel with EDF just coming off a fixed deal, £700 in credit dd going up from £220 a month to £430

We're with EDF.

Our bills used to be £150 per month. They changed it to £261 earlier in the year but this month have taken £332 wihtout any prior warning.

Been advised to leave the DD as it is to cover any further price hikes.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

A lot depends on occupants, house type & age.

I now have a 3 bed detached fairly old house with just me and my daughter and we’re only really there 50% of the time max

When we are there in winter it costs £4-5 a day on gas if we don’t use heating and £8-12 a day if we do. Even at £12 a day it’s not that warm, to have my house to toasty warm like my last new build, in winter I reckon would cost £20-£25 a day so £600-£750 per month.

Our electric is around £4 per day on top.

Add to that an increase of around £500 a month due to interest rates, looking at extra £1000 a month just on gas and mortgage compared to 2-3 years ago

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Just did a comparison from this year to last year. Gas up by 257% Elec 211%. Overall up 237%. I have an uninsulated house (solid wall) no floor insulation. I WFH 3 days a week, but used considerably less gas this year (heated throw and blanket hoodie) but managed to get a door fitted to retain heat in front room. I put rads on in all upstairs rooms for a while so I don't get damp issues, have put foil bubble wrap (floor insulation) behind rads. I will be insuating the walls from the inside room by room as I can afford it. Pay £80pm dual fuel (they stopped taking DD when government payment started, I put it back up) I'm £600+ in credit due to being bloody frugal and yes I know they are getting interest on my money so will draw down an amount and put in savings.

We need a MSE forum to share our economical information wealth

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

"Im just closing my eyes and trying to ignore it. Wont be terribly effective when the bill drops on the mat but I will just flog a bit more furniture or find some lead on a roof or something to pay it. Times are shite indeed. "

Funny you say that... no word of a lie, removed some paving from garden, under the sand was a whole heap of lead!!! I have it bagged up ready to sell

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"5 people in my house. Dual fuel with EDF just coming off a fixed deal, £700 in credit dd going up from £220 a month to £430

We're with EDF.

Our bills used to be £150 per month. They changed it to £261 earlier in the year but this month have taken £332 wihtout any prior warning.

Been advised to leave the DD as it is to cover any further price hikes.

Yes, a few months ago they wanted to put our dd payments down but we decided to keep it the same.

Thieving cunts the lot of them! Grrrr

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By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Also, have you noticed on your bill the energy price guarantee discount? My bill for Dec was £150.78. Add the discount and associated VAT my bill would have been £210.05

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone want to start sharing a bed to keep the costs down?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God £500 in december ours was only £190 with the money the government gave us wow you must be using lots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Utility warehouse is brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They cant if you pay by standing order

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are still paying high because most of the government have shares in the energy companies thats why they are slow bringing it down

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

"Utility warehouse is brilliant "

Agree. I just pay for what I use

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