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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? " I personally think you overthink everything and i say that as a compliment not as a negative | |||
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"Yeah, I have days like that where I just don't have the energy to be very peopley " Yes! Sometimes I don't have the energy to message folk. I feel bad about it because it feels almost selfish but I mute folk and focus on me. | |||
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"So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I personally think you overthink everything and i say that as a compliment not as a negative " Oh you charming c... ad. No, some things I'm confident in. Certain areas in my life, abilities I know I possess. Still learning and growing in them but I'm self assured within those. But others are interesting discussion points and make a change from the snog/fuck/who has the best/biggest mundane. Bit of navel gazing is good for discussion. | |||
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"Yeah, I have days like that where I just don't have the energy to be very peopley Yes! Sometimes I don't have the energy to message folk. I feel bad about it because it feels almost selfish but I mute folk and focus on me." I mute the group chats and just concentrate on myself when I need to. You shouldn't feel selfish about it though - you're looking after your mental health. Anyone who doesn't understand that, or can't accept it, has the wrong energy for me | |||
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"I had a voicemail (missed the call as was working) before Xmas from an old friend I've not spoken to in around 5 years, possibly more. They used to be quite the mood hoover and energy sucker whenever we spoke on the phone and the conversation always ended up being centred on the current drama in their life. I haven't called them back yet. Possibly won't. A" Ah an energy vampire! I had an old friend randomly get in touch with me a couple of months ago. I quickly remembered why I let things fizzle politely - the one sided conversation, no interest in me, the drama... don't return that call Obi. No one needs that. | |||
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"I do this with phone calls. The problem is I just don’t answer it to anyone EVER " Same People know if they want to get hold of me, just text or WhatsApp | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? " I do Reiki self healing with my daily meditation and put what i call my energy vampire cloak on, | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). " I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. " And availability bias as so many of us gorgeous complex creatures are ND. My ADHD means I cannot not read threads or contribute- I must say something even if it’s utter dross or pathetic attention seeking. I have marvellous intentions and colossal stores of empathy so heartfelt when written though. But then angst over how it’ll come across. | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. " m It takes tremendous courage to recognise it and then look after yourself. I find myself unable to say no, sometimes and that affects my mental health greatly. If you’re able to stop yourself from getting involved in a conversation you’re not ready for, I’d say it’s a great start | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. m It takes tremendous courage to recognise it and then look after yourself. I find myself unable to say no, sometimes and that affects my mental health greatly. If you’re able to stop yourself from getting involved in a conversation you’re not ready for, I’d say it’s a great start " In only recently diagnosed so it’s all a bit meta at the moment - tiring thinking about the thinking! But fascinating and enables me to see how many spectacular friends also have sparkly brains. | |||
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"I do this with phone calls. The problem is I just don’t answer it to anyone EVER Same People know if they want to get hold of me, just text or WhatsApp " Same... There's maybe 4 people I'll answer the phone to, parents, son and 1 friend. | |||
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"My good friend knows that if I reply with Yes, ok, fine thanks…. It means I simply cannot talk because I’m out of spoons. If they get nothing further after that then I get a follow up or a call. Everyone else probably just thinks I’m rude. I can’t answer the part about NT/ND because I’m currently doubting where I fall there " What does NT mean? | |||
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"One of my friends got me into the habit of starting any deep conversations with "do you have the head space to talk about...". It's a lovely bit of consideration, because I think we all have times where we just can't deal. For the most part if someone WhatsApps me I will try to match their energy in response. Some times that takes more mental energy than others." That's such a great idea! I'll often say I don't have the capacity to deal with a situation right now. Might steal the head space thing though | |||
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"My good friend knows that if I reply with Yes, ok, fine thanks…. It means I simply cannot talk because I’m out of spoons. If they get nothing further after that then I get a follow up or a call. Everyone else probably just thinks I’m rude. I can’t answer the part about NT/ND because I’m currently doubting where I fall there What does NT mean? " Neurotypical | |||
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"…. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? " I dont think much. But if I did leave it, it would be because I am in a bad mood. If I reply quickly =good mood. | |||
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"I get that, friendships do take energy and depending on your relationship with them, decides how much energy they need from you. I tend to only invest in messaging people if my heads in it. Some days I'm just not in the mood to talk to anyone and I think everyone who knows me truely gets that. " Yes. It's rare it happens but I can't keep up high energy waffling all the time so I mute people. My good friends know when I'm really low energy because it surpasses needy and results in me hibernating. | |||
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"Yup. I don’t like to reply to certain friends messages until I have the time to respond meaningfully. Others I know that one liners are fine and they’ll respond accordingly. It’s different friendships with different people. " Yes. Like I know for all your teasing you understand my messaging style. It's very much there or not. Doesn't mean I love you any less. Different friendships colour how you interact definitely. | |||
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"A big reason I'm so shit at replying to messages is because I always want to take time and put thought into them as opposed to just barfing words without any thought. Not gonna lie, even having a few different conversations going stresses me out " Understandable. It's hard to keep a level of energy going when there are different tangents to direct it in to. Don't get the barfing out words thing though - the most interesting conversations are late at night stream of consciousness when the darkness strips you of inhibitions and you let the words flow unedited. You're you, the authentic raw you. | |||
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"I had a voicemail (missed the call as was working) before Xmas from an old friend I've not spoken to in around 5 years, possibly more. They used to be quite the mood hoover and energy sucker whenever we spoke on the phone and the conversation always ended up being centred on the current drama in their life. I haven't called them back yet. Possibly won't. A" I think we may have a mutual friend One time she affected my energy so much that my sleep was disrupted for weeks! Now I make sure I'm in the right place myself to be able to handle her dramas. It's such a shame that's she's such an energy vampire as I know she needs people to care for her Sara x | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. And availability bias as so many of us gorgeous complex creatures are ND. My ADHD means I cannot not read threads or contribute- I must say something even if it’s utter dross or pathetic attention seeking. I have marvellous intentions and colossal stores of empathy so heartfelt when written though. But then angst over how it’ll come across. " You come across beautifully Mrs Frolic. Do you know what I adore reading? Posts where you can hear the person saying it and it fits. Rings true. There's no dissonance between the words on screen and the author's voice. Availability bias is an issue, perhaps not solely for us ND types but definitely more prevalent. There's a lot to be said for having available spoons as another poster said (I love the spoons thing and use it frequently when talking to a dear Geordie friend). | |||
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"Yes - I guess I don’t use message apps like most people for that exact reason - I have all notifications off so I only know I have a message when I choose to look & even then I only reply if I feel like it. I’ve learned if I respond to all messages and emails on demand I simply don’t get time for what’s important to me It does mean sometimes people give up on me! but my close friends know if they need me they can just call. And I think I’m better in person " People might give up but it's about finding people who accept you quirks, faults and peculiar behaviours without batting an eyelid. I don't know if you're better in person but you possibly are. Most people are - the written word can only convey so much. | |||
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"My good friend knows that if I reply with Yes, ok, fine thanks…. It means I simply cannot talk because I’m out of spoons. If they get nothing further after that then I get a follow up or a call. Everyone else probably just thinks I’m rude. I can’t answer the part about NT/ND because I’m currently doubting where I fall there What does NT mean? Neurotypical " Thank you | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. And availability bias as so many of us gorgeous complex creatures are ND. My ADHD means I cannot not read threads or contribute- I must say something even if it’s utter dross or pathetic attention seeking. I have marvellous intentions and colossal stores of empathy so heartfelt when written though. But then angst over how it’ll come across. You come across beautifully Mrs Frolic. Do you know what I adore reading? Posts where you can hear the person saying it and it fits. Rings true. There's no dissonance between the words on screen and the author's voice. Availability bias is an issue, perhaps not solely for us ND types but definitely more prevalent. There's a lot to be said for having available spoons as another poster said (I love the spoons thing and use it frequently when talking to a dear Geordie friend)." Thank you darling. I love this type of thread. So much better connection and deeper intent. Huge spoons theory fan- often share it in my professional life and to friends x | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? " Whetherspoons obvs | |||
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"It shows good self awareness and empathy for others too. If we get something wrong it can be quite damaging so taking time helps to avoid that. The flip side is that it can appear strange to the other person who might interpret it as not caring or avoiding the subject. The more I discover about emotional intelligence, the more I’m amazed anyone gets it right without a 7 year training course " Oh emotional intelligence is another fascinating topic isn't it? I think too oft we fall into thinking we possess it when the reality is so far removed from it. There's nothing wrong with that, none of us are perfect. We're all just getting along, mostly without trying to cause deliberate harm/hurt. I know sometimes I misread situations, when people don't message. Maybe not being self focused is a good reminder. | |||
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"I'm definitely more of a reply when I'm in the right headspace kind of woman. I have to be in the mood otherwise the conversation doesn't really flow. I have maybe two people (not on here) where I can just bounce back and forward with no matter how I'm feeling and they just get it because they know me so well, so nothing needs explaining and the conversation just glides smoothly no matter what. But on here, I feel bad for how much I suck at replying to messages, but it's difficult to match energy sometimes if you've got a lot going on and you're not in the mood. I try my best." I get this. And this is the reason I give my number to those I feel are friends. They can message me anytime. Until then, it’s a fab thing, and I reply when I’m in a fab mood. | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? Whetherspoons obvs " Apparently so! | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? Whetherspoons obvs Apparently so! " I'm going to try and explain it succinctly. So imagine you've got a set number of spoons to get through your day. Let's say 15 because I like the roundness of it (begone succinctness). For me, there are certain things that can mean those spoons end up dirty and in the washing up bowl. Like remove a spoon for bad news. For something overstimulating. Something that hurts you. Doing daily tasks. Now sometimes those spoons can be cleaned by good news. A quiet space. A good friend sends a thoughtful message. But some days you run out/low on spoons. You don't have the spoons to give to your friend who needs it for a cup of tea. So you wait until your spoons are clean again. Actively try and make them sometimes. Hope that's explained it a bit. | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? Whetherspoons obvs Apparently so! I'm going to try and explain it succinctly. So imagine you've got a set number of spoons to get through your day. Let's say 15 because I like the roundness of it (begone succinctness). For me, there are certain things that can mean those spoons end up dirty and in the washing up bowl. Like remove a spoon for bad news. For something overstimulating. Something that hurts you. Doing daily tasks. Now sometimes those spoons can be cleaned by good news. A quiet space. A good friend sends a thoughtful message. But some days you run out/low on spoons. You don't have the spoons to give to your friend who needs it for a cup of tea. So you wait until your spoons are clean again. Actively try and make them sometimes. Hope that's explained it a bit." And if you’re grieving/ have a chronic illness you might accidentally borrow spoons from the next day to get you through, and then be far more exhausted than you were expecting. So being kind to yourself and pacing is key. Self compassion through realising you’ve only got set limits of energy - physical and emotional. | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? Whetherspoons obvs Apparently so! I'm going to try and explain it succinctly. So imagine you've got a set number of spoons to get through your day. Let's say 15 because I like the roundness of it (begone succinctness). For me, there are certain things that can mean those spoons end up dirty and in the washing up bowl. Like remove a spoon for bad news. For something overstimulating. Something that hurts you. Doing daily tasks. Now sometimes those spoons can be cleaned by good news. A quiet space. A good friend sends a thoughtful message. But some days you run out/low on spoons. You don't have the spoons to give to your friend who needs it for a cup of tea. So you wait until your spoons are clean again. Actively try and make them sometimes. Hope that's explained it a bit. And if you’re grieving/ have a chronic illness you might accidentally borrow spoons from the next day to get you through, and then be far more exhausted than you were expecting. So being kind to yourself and pacing is key. Self compassion through realising you’ve only got set limits of energy - physical and emotional. " Thank you both | |||
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"We reply regardless and try to match the energy. If your message is dead, so is ours. Not putting effort into replying if no effort was made when it was sent. One thing you eventually learn in life is that you don't owe anyone anything. If you flow with the messages then great, if it gets dry very quickly then let it be. Worst thing trying to carry on a conversation where you are pulling words out of your ass just to keep it going. We let it die and move on. Just got to realise that certain people aren't made for each other. Last thing we want is to awkwardly converse with people. Although it is not the easiest thing to communicate and express emotion through messages. It may be totally opposite when you meet people in real life scenarios. " Good response. This explanation really resonates with me today. | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? Whetherspoons obvs Apparently so! I'm going to try and explain it succinctly. So imagine you've got a set number of spoons to get through your day. Let's say 15 because I like the roundness of it (begone succinctness). For me, there are certain things that can mean those spoons end up dirty and in the washing up bowl. Like remove a spoon for bad news. For something overstimulating. Something that hurts you. Doing daily tasks. Now sometimes those spoons can be cleaned by good news. A quiet space. A good friend sends a thoughtful message. But some days you run out/low on spoons. You don't have the spoons to give to your friend who needs it for a cup of tea. So you wait until your spoons are clean again. Actively try and make them sometimes. Hope that's explained it a bit. And if you’re grieving/ have a chronic illness you might accidentally borrow spoons from the next day to get you through, and then be far more exhausted than you were expecting. So being kind to yourself and pacing is key. Self compassion through realising you’ve only got set limits of energy - physical and emotional. " I adore this. Thank you. | |||
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"What do the spoons mean? Whetherspoons obvs Apparently so! I'm going to try and explain it succinctly. So imagine you've got a set number of spoons to get through your day. Let's say 15 because I like the roundness of it (begone succinctness). For me, there are certain things that can mean those spoons end up dirty and in the washing up bowl. Like remove a spoon for bad news. For something overstimulating. Something that hurts you. Doing daily tasks. Now sometimes those spoons can be cleaned by good news. A quiet space. A good friend sends a thoughtful message. But some days you run out/low on spoons. You don't have the spoons to give to your friend who needs it for a cup of tea. So you wait until your spoons are clean again. Actively try and make them sometimes. Hope that's explained it a bit." Well...this hit home. | |||
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"Yeah, I have days like that where I just don't have the energy to be very peopley " Same here really. If I need to give more than a few words in response then I usually wait until I’m feeling more sociable. Which can take days | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? I do the same and been told it's a very ND trait (I have ADHD, so it makes sense). I did wonder if it was. But then sometimes I think heck, it's my confirmation bias. " No it's definitely an ND traits! Which isn't to say NTs don't do it as well but certainly being overwhelmed by communication and not having the energy to reply seems very typical of us. | |||
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"energies... Earlier I was apologising to a friend for not replying earlier - long story short I felt I couldn't give her message justice until I could match her energy/had the right headspace. She was really lovely, completely got it. I don't think it's a ND thing but I may be wrong. So; is this something you do? Ever think about? Or are you more of a, I'll reply with whatever mood I'm in/length I'm able to give that person at the time sort? And not prone to thinking too much about it like me? " Its not just about headspace for me its about being able to give the time to devote to a proper thought out response. Obviously that only applies to conversations that require more than a yes/no type response. The lack of an answer doesn’t always denote a lack of interest. | |||
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