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"It’s a about Andrew Tates email small-dick-energy.com" Oh, I’ve not heard anything about this | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. " Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. " This is more then a twitter spat/ it led to the Tate brothers spending jail today. Her engagement has been very positive to supporters of anti s-ex traffickers . | |||
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"Seems like The Tates are traffickers too. " Is that speculation or empirical evidence? | |||
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"Now if she could nail Prince Andrew as well " She’s too old for him. | |||
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"Seems like The Tates are traffickers too. Is that speculation or empirical evidence?" I believe it's one of the reasons he has been arrested | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. " This is my take as well. Her retort isn’t genius or clever, just purile. He’s been locked up for serious crime so that pretty much ends the matter. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended." Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts?" Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements " It's almost like Twitter is a different form of communication to making formal statements, writing books, or giving talks. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements " I'm not sure am autistic person communicating very differently on twitter to how they communicate in person is evidence of anything more than being autistic? | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements I'm not sure am autistic person communicating very differently on twitter to how they communicate in person is evidence of anything more than being autistic?" What? You’re talking nonsense. Autism doesn’t create multiple personality disorder | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements I'm not sure am autistic person communicating very differently on twitter to how they communicate in person is evidence of anything more than being autistic? What? You’re talking nonsense. Autism doesn’t create multiple personality disorder " No, but you must see the difference between talking live and in person to being able to take your time and edit your responses on social media accordingly, right? Surely being a member on here you can understand how people talk and act differently in certain situations? | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements I'm not sure am autistic person communicating very differently on twitter to how they communicate in person is evidence of anything more than being autistic? What? You’re talking nonsense. Autism doesn’t create multiple personality disorder " Whi said anything about a multiple personality disorder? People with autism struggle with face to face communication but often less so with written communication, so it's natural that how she appears in person and online. | |||
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"I think letting Andrewc Tate back on twitter is literally the only god thing about Musk taking over Twitter. This whole story had been a fucking joy to watch. " | |||
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"Seems like The Tates are traffickers too. Is that speculation or empirical evidence? I believe it's one of the reasons he has been arrested" I've seen news articles stating that it appears why. I'm not that interested in him but would be interested to see if it's true and the outcome. | |||
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"She's always been a G, as for him let's not give him anymore attention. " I think it’s the perfect time to show him for that he is. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... " She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. " Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media "They've probably been running it since it was first opened. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media "Loads of celebrities/ etc have family members who run their SM accounts.  | |||
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"Someone edited Tates kickboxing record on Wikipedia, they added in Greta won by a knockout, venue = Twitter. Sadly it's been re-edited now but there are screenshots of it going around. " I found it online. Hilarious good share mate | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... " . But do they? Given that she has admitted not having sole charge of her Facebook account why would she not just admit it? There is literally no evidence to support this but people keep claiming it to be true? | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Loads of celebrities/ etc have family members who run their SM accounts. "Some probably have their PR people run them too. I'm wondering if it was her dad who made the comment. Would she have made a reference to his penis? | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media "Hardly  Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do." It was him who first contacted her. She responded to his trolling. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat"How are you determining that she is very autistic? And how she does and doesn't communicate? | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do. It was him who first contacted her. She responded to his trolling. " I know but he isn't even worth responding to. But it's her choice. I just don't think it was worth it, just seemed beneath her. | |||
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"It’s a about Andrew Tates email small-dick-energy.com" Yes. But, as a man with a small dick, I feel vaguely upset by the whole incident. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat"Wow, that's some sweeping generalisations right there. 
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"It’s a about Andrew Tates email small-dick-energy.com Yes. But, as a man with a small dick, I feel vaguely upset by the whole incident." Glad you own it mate. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do. It was him who first contacted her. She responded to his trolling. I know but he isn't even worth responding to. But it's her choice. I just don't think it was worth it, just seemed beneath her. " I agree. It’s all very childish and ridiculous from what I’ve heard. I don’t have Twitter etc. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do. It was him who first contacted her. She responded to his trolling. I know but he isn't even worth responding to. But it's her choice. I just don't think it was worth it, just seemed beneath her. I agree. It’s all very childish and ridiculous from what I’ve heard. I don’t have Twitter etc. " He and his brother is in jail. She’s a hero to many. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do. It was him who first contacted her. She responded to his trolling. I know but he isn't even worth responding to. But it's her choice. I just don't think it was worth it, just seemed beneath her. I agree. It’s all very childish and ridiculous from what I’ve heard. I don’t have Twitter etc. He and his brother is in jail. She’s a hero to many." He and his brother 'are' - plural  | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Completely agree. Some people aren't worth the time of day. I'm disappointed to see her engaging with him but what can you do. It was him who first contacted her. She responded to his trolling. I know but he isn't even worth responding to. But it's her choice. I just don't think it was worth it, just seemed beneath her. I agree. It’s all very childish and ridiculous from what I’ve heard. I don’t have Twitter etc. He and his brother is in jail. She’s a hero to many." They aren’t in jail because of her. They’ve been under investigation since April | |||
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"Her responce this morning is classic, Look what happens when you dont recycle your pizza boxes, "I didn't see that! That's fantastic! | |||
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"It’s a about Andrew Tates email small-dick-energy.com Yes. But, as a man with a small dick, I feel vaguely upset by the whole incident. Glad you own it mate. " | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. " Her engagement has been extremely positive. She was intentionally targeted and responded with restraint and humour. Then when the self-confessed misogynist responded with a video she didn't even reply. Now she's having a cheeky celebration that a sex trafficker (which has been known for some time) has been caught. Hardly a spat. | |||
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" He and his brother is in jail. She’s a hero to many. They aren’t in jail because of her. They’ve been under investigation since April " And Romanian police would not have been able to confirm he was in the country if he had basically not doxxed himself with the pizza boxes.. P.s if she had suggested he had a napoleon complex rather then just saying he has small dick energy would he have even realised? Not her fault he got mad… I know there is the “take the high road “ … but he came to goad and troll her to make himself look good… I don’t mind if 3 little words brought him down a peg or 2! | |||
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"Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements " So... no evidence then. Practically every person I know communicates differently in print compared to in person. And are you really expecting a tweet to be the same as a prepared written statement read before (e.g.) the UN? | |||
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" He and his brother is in jail. She’s a hero to many. They aren’t in jail because of her. They’ve been under investigation since April And Romanian police would not have been able to confirm he was in the country if he had basically not doxxed himself with the pizza boxes.. P.s if she had suggested he had a napoleon complex rather then just saying he has small dick energy would he have even realised? Not her fault he got mad… I know there is the “take the high road “ … but he came to goad and troll her to make himself look good… I don’t mind if 3 little words brought him down a peg or 2! " That’s untrue they already knew and were in the process of getting warrants to raid his and 5 other properties. People just enjoy twisting stories for some kind of weird social media enjoyment. | |||
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"Is this what social media was designed for?? " That’s the only reason I signed up to MySpace | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Her engagement has been extremely positive. She was intentionally targeted and responded with restraint and humour. Then when the self-confessed misogynist responded with a video she didn't even reply. Now she's having a cheeky celebration that a sex trafficker (which has been known for some time) has been caught. Hardly a spat." There are contrarians on this forum. Putting that to one side. A bad person has been locked up. And for everyone that’s a great thing. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat"Aside from there being no such thing as "very autistic," she has consistently demonstrated a quick wit. It's almost like people are obsessed with finding a reason to dismiss this renarkable young woman. You are right - there are not many 19 year olds like her. So much so that I imagine she can probably write a tweet now and again!  | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements " This | |||
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"I don't care who runs her SM account, at the end of the day, a person who glorifies the objectivity of women has been put down in a tremendously quick witted way, twice in as many days, and has now been arrested for horrendous offences. Good job all round, I say! " Questioning Gretas social media is a way to continue to devalue her, her opinions and her ability to give a scathing one liner .
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" He and his brother is in jail. She’s a hero to many. They aren’t in jail because of her. They’ve been under investigation since April And Romanian police would not have been able to confirm he was in the country if he had basically not doxxed himself with the pizza boxes.. P.s if she had suggested he had a napoleon complex rather then just saying he has small dick energy would he have even realised? Not her fault he got mad… I know there is the “take the high road “ … but he came to goad and troll her to make himself look good… I don’t mind if 3 little words brought him down a peg or 2! That’s untrue they already knew and were in the process of getting warrants to raid his and 5 other properties. People just enjoy twisting stories for some kind of weird social media enjoyment." Some people are suggesting that it was Greta that got him arrested, not the relevant crime agencies, law enforcement and his own stupidity. | |||
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I don't know if that makes me woefully out of touch, or the complete opposite of that "You seem to be definitely out of touch. Greta has been in international press since she was a young teenager. Tate, has been heavily popular on social media for the past 12 months. | |||
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"I don't care who runs her SM account, at the end of the day, a person who glorifies the objectivity of women has been put down in a tremendously quick witted way, twice in as many days, and has now been arrested for horrendous offences. Good job all round, I say! Questioning Gretas social media is a way to continue to devalue her, her opinions and her ability to give a scathing one liner .
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"I genuinely had to Google who both of these people were
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You seem to be definitely out of touch. Greta has been in international press since she was a young teenager. Tate, has been heavily popular on social media for the past 12 months. "Tate has been doing the rounds since 2016 when he was on big brother. He has had a heavy social media presence since then and was even removed from Twitter a few years back for similar reasons to the things he’s controversial for now | |||
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"You seem to be definitely out of touch. Greta has been in international press since she was a young teenager. Tate, has been heavily popular on social media for the past 12 months. " Well its very possible I'm out of touch, as I usually don't watch a lot of television or follow people on social media who aren't occupying spaces I'm particularly interested in. That said I don't recall anyone in real life ever mentioning either of their names in general conversation. I do have friends & a job etc... | |||
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" big brother." Oh, OK. Now it all makes sense I've been actively trying to avoid anything to do with big brother for 20 years | |||
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"You seem to be definitely out of touch. Greta has been in international press since she was a young teenager. Tate, has been heavily popular on social media for the past 12 months. Well its very possible I'm out of touch, as I usually don't watch a lot of television or follow people on social media who aren't occupying spaces I'm particularly interested in. That said I don't recall anyone in real life ever mentioning either of their names in general conversation. I do have friends & a job etc... " Ask anybody in a pub or your work place and say What do you think of Andrew Tate . And you’ll get a gaggle of comments . | |||
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"Ask anybody in a pub or your work place and say What do you think of Andrew Tate . And you’ll get a gaggle of comments . " Ask what they think about Greta and you'll get even more! Particularly from men. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements This "We work with international students. Some are incredibly fluent in speaking English, but in written English, come across as barely literate. And also the opposite - fluent writers who have incredibly weak spoken English. Comparing someone's spoken and written language is not valid - there are a great many totally illiterate Brits who can speak English fluently, but not read or write it at all. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements This
We work with international students. Some are incredibly fluent in speaking English, but in written English, come across as barely literate. And also the opposite - fluent writers who have incredibly weak spoken English.
Comparing someone's spoken and written language is not valid - there are a great many totally illiterate Brits who can speak English fluently, but not read or write it at all. "I come across as quite a passable talker written down. In person my tongue is tied in knots and I am incomprehensible mostly. I like the written word, I even manage to come up with a fast quip or two. Amazing. Who would have thought it. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. Yeah, same here. And i think you mentioned it in another thread, but i sort of get the feeling it wasn't 'her' reply, (i could be wrong) Moreso the people running her twitter account. But, at least some good did come out of it. Even if it wasnt intended. Someone said similar to this yesterday, is there any evidence that she doesn't run her own social media accounts? Main evidence is that the way she tweets doesn’t align with the way she communicates in person, on camera or in other written statements This
We work with international students. Some are incredibly fluent in speaking English, but in written English, come across as barely literate. And also the opposite - fluent writers who have incredibly weak spoken English.
Comparing someone's spoken and written language is not valid - there are a great many totally illiterate Brits who can speak English fluently, but not read or write it at all.
I come across as quite a passable talker written down. In person my tongue is tied in knots and I am incomprehensible mostly. I like the written word, I even manage to come up with a fast quip or two. Amazing. Who would have thought it. "I think people forget she is also using her second language. With online tools, one can check one's written text and have grammar and spelling issues highlighted for correction. There are a huge number of factors that mean few people come across identically both in the spoken and written word. | |||
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"I had no idea who he was, but having read the BBC arrest story it was extremely uncomfortable reading. " Do you want to know what's even more troubling? Some guys in this forum yesterday referred to him as their hero. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Loads of celebrities/ etc have family members who run their SM accounts.
Some probably have their PR people run them too.
I'm wondering if it was her dad who made the comment. Would she have made a reference to his penis?
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"You seem to be definitely out of touch. Greta has been in international press since she was a young teenager. Tate, has been heavily popular on social media for the past 12 months. Well its very possible I'm out of touch, as I usually don't watch a lot of television or follow people on social media who aren't occupying spaces I'm particularly interested in. That said I don't recall anyone in real life ever mentioning either of their names in general conversation. I do have friends & a job etc... " I haven't heard people in real life mention him either, only online. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. " Amen to that! Better things to do in life. | |||
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"Her engagement in all of this isn't positive. I don't see why she is being praised for it. I've no interest in anyone's twitter spats. This is my take as well. Her retort isn’t genius or clever, just purile. He’s been locked up for serious crime so that pretty much ends the matter." Totally! | |||
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"I had no idea who he was, but having read the BBC arrest story it was extremely uncomfortable reading. Do you want to know what's even more troubling? Some guys in this forum yesterday referred to him as their hero. "WtAf  | |||
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"I don't care who runs her SM account, at the end of the day, a person who glorifies the objectivity of women has been put down in a tremendously quick witted way, twice in as many days, and has now been arrested for horrendous offences. Good job all round, I say! " | |||
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"This forum is perfect. If people talk shit they get pulled up on it. If there’re foolish, they double done. Bring out the popcorn Hints of schadenfreude, with this comment, OP "Oi missus, use small words for us simpletons, please!!! | |||
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"This forum is perfect. If people talk shit they get pulled up on it. If there’re foolish, they double done. Bring out the popcorn Hints of schadenfreude, with this comment, OP
Oi missus, use small words for us simpletons, please!!!
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"This forum is perfect. If people talk shit they get pulled up on it. If there’re foolish, they double done. Bring out the popcorn Hints of schadenfreude, with this comment, OP "But the OP is 'schadenfreude-ing' himself - just as he does on most of his threads | |||
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"I'm pretty sure that's not possible Dolly ..... by definition alone "He's an exception! | |||
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"I'm pretty sure that's not possible Dolly ..... by definition alone
He's an exception! "I wouldn't argue with that | |||
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"Is this about global warming? " It should be | |||
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"Do you want to know what's even more troubling? Some guys in this forum yesterday referred to him as their hero. "Wait what? Who? Must have missed that. | |||
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"This forum is perfect. If people talk shit they get pulled up on it. If there’re foolish, they double done. Bring out the popcorn Hints of schadenfreude, with this comment, OP "Lot of it about in the UK these days. Sad what we've become as a country. | |||
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"I'm pretty sure that's not possible Dolly ..... by definition alone "Paradoxically, maybe. | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! " They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. | |||
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" So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. " The authorities would have to present to the judge what evidence they do have, and evidence they suspect they can get. Also, the possibility of witness intimidation/evidence destruction if the suspects were bailed. Although i have no idea as to how convincing that argument has to be. | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. " I suppose that depends on the judicial system in Romania. | |||
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"I suppose that depends on the judicial system in Romania." Apparently they're more lenient towards sexual ass@ult charges than the UK. Tate gave that as the explicit reason why he went there. | |||
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"I suppose that depends on the judicial system in Romania. Apparently they're more lenient towards sexual ass@ult charges than the UK. Tate gave that as the explicit reason why he went there." One of the alleged complainants is American. I believe Tate holds a US passport. He might find himself subject to attempted extradition? | |||
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" One of the alleged complainants is American. I believe Tate holds a US passport. He might find himself subject to attempted extradition?" Good question. That would depend on where any alleged offence took place. If an offence was committed by a US Citizen, against another US Citizen in another country, im pretty sure the alleged crime/investigation would be the responsibility of that country. | |||
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" One of the alleged complainants is American. I believe Tate holds a US passport. He might find himself subject to attempted extradition? Good question. That would depend on where any alleged offence took place. If an offence was committed by a US Citizen, against another US Citizen in another country, im pretty sure the alleged crime/investigation would be the responsibility of that country." USA are trying to extradite Julian Assange, but he is not American. Did his alleged crimes occur in the USA? I genuinely don't know...... With digital crime (like webcam or website based stuff), I'm assuming borders have been blurred? | |||
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" USA are trying to extradite Julian Assange, but he is not American. Did his alleged crimes occur in the USA? I genuinely don't know...... With digital crime (like webcam or website based stuff), I'm assuming borders have been blurred? " Definitely one for the lawyers. Assanges company, Wikileaks, published leaked information from a US Army intelligence analyst. Yeah, lawyers will be earning their pay fighting that one. | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence "He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too. His lawyer is objecting the 30 days. He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta. | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta. "I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual "Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat
Wow, that's some sweeping generalisations right there.
There are plenty of examples of people who are on the spectrum who are insightful and funny - Dan Akroyd and Anthony Hopkins straight off the top of my head.
"Most people who are passionate and single minded are on the spectrum. Having spoken to her in person (due to my job) that is very much what she is like, genuinely funny, suppose it's easier to develop that kind of personality when so many idiots hate you. | |||
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Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat
Wow, that's some sweeping generalisations right there.
There are plenty of examples of people who are on the spectrum who are insightful and funny - Dan Akroyd and Anthony Hopkins straight off the top of my head.
Most people who are passionate and single minded are on the spectrum. Having spoken to her in person (due to my job) that is very much what she is like, genuinely funny, suppose it's easier to develop that kind of personality when so many idiots hate you."I very much doubt anyone hates her. I would imagine most people just think shes a mouthpiece to be ridiculed and then ignored | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not"Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation... | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation..."They're not. All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions | |||
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"He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta. " He's more than "a bit of a twat," for fuck's sake. And this isn't for laughing at Greta. It's for trafficking human beings. Please tell me that you get that? | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions"The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation. | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation. "Im sure it is. But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation.
Im sure it is.
But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions"Indeed. However I rarely hear "but are they telling the truth?" around nonsexual crimes in the same way. Fear of being disbelieved is one of the biggest reasons why much sex crime is never reported, therefore not prosecuted. Police must lend credence to an accusation (i.e believe a crime may well have taken place) to arrest someone and question them. They must have a decent amount of evidence (in the UK at least) to justify holding someone beyond the usual period for initial questioning. I doubt very much that the Romanian police arrested him if they lacked suitable evidence that a crime is likely to have happened, nor would a judge authorise extended detention in the absence of evidence. Of course, his lawyer will contest the detention, because they'd be a shit lawyer who just said "yeah, keep my client as long as you like....." | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation.
Im sure it is.
But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions
Indeed. However I rarely hear "but are they telling the truth?" around nonsexual crimes in the same way. Fear of being disbelieved is one of the biggest reasons why much sex crime is never reported, therefore not prosecuted. Police must lend credence to an accusation (i.e believe a crime may well have taken place) to arrest someone and question them. They must have a decent amount of evidence (in the UK at least) to justify holding someone beyond the usual period for initial questioning.
I doubt very much that the Romanian police arrested him if they lacked suitable evidence that a crime is likely to have happened, nor would a judge authorise extended detention in the absence of evidence.
Of course, his lawyer will contest the detention, because they'd be a shit lawyer who just said "yeah, keep my client as long as you like.....""Im not quite sure what youre trying to achieve...would you rather non sexual crimes were also views in the shoddy manner you believe sexual crimes are, just to balance it out? | |||
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He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation.
Im sure it is.
But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions
Indeed. However I rarely hear "but are they telling the truth?" around nonsexual crimes in the same way. Fear of being disbelieved is one of the biggest reasons why much sex crime is never reported, therefore not prosecuted. Police must lend credence to an accusation (i.e believe a crime may well have taken place) to arrest someone and question them. They must have a decent amount of evidence (in the UK at least) to justify holding someone beyond the usual period for initial questioning.
I doubt very much that the Romanian police arrested him if they lacked suitable evidence that a crime is likely to have happened, nor would a judge authorise extended detention in the absence of evidence.
Of course, his lawyer will contest the detention, because they'd be a shit lawyer who just said "yeah, keep my client as long as you like....."
Im not quite sure what youre trying to achieve...would you rather non sexual crimes were also views in the shoddy manner you believe sexual crimes are, just to balance it out? "No. I'd rather people stopped openly questioning the authenticity of people reporting sex crimes. If your neighbour came and told you they'd been burgled, would you say "yeah, but have you REALLY been burgled? Are you sure? Might you have accidentally chucked all of your valuables in the bin? Could your kids have sold your worldly goods on eBay? Come on now, Jeff!!! Tell me the truth!!" Probably not. But this is what happens when people say they have been sexually assaulted. Their report of a crime occuring is openly questioned, sometimes to the point of complete unwillingness to accept there's even a small chance something bad happened. We should treat all accusations of crime the way you'd likely respond to Jeff after the break in. "Bloody hell, I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you - have you told the police? Would you like to use my phone/would you like a lift to the police station. Are you okay? Etc" | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation.
Im sure it is.
But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions
Indeed. However I rarely hear "but are they telling the truth?" around nonsexual crimes in the same way. Fear of being disbelieved is one of the biggest reasons why much sex crime is never reported, therefore not prosecuted. Police must lend credence to an accusation (i.e believe a crime may well have taken place) to arrest someone and question them. They must have a decent amount of evidence (in the UK at least) to justify holding someone beyond the usual period for initial questioning.
I doubt very much that the Romanian police arrested him if they lacked suitable evidence that a crime is likely to have happened, nor would a judge authorise extended detention in the absence of evidence.
Of course, his lawyer will contest the detention, because they'd be a shit lawyer who just said "yeah, keep my client as long as you like....."
Im not quite sure what youre trying to achieve...would you rather non sexual crimes were also views in the shoddy manner you believe sexual crimes are, just to balance it out?
No. I'd rather people stopped openly questioning the authenticity of people reporting sex crimes.
If your neighbour came and told you they'd been burgled, would you say "yeah, but have you REALLY been burgled? Are you sure? Might you have accidentally chucked all of your valuables in the bin? Could your kids have sold your worldly goods on eBay? Come on now, Jeff!!! Tell me the truth!!"
Probably not. But this is what happens when people say they have been sexually assaulted. Their report of a crime occuring is openly questioned, sometimes to the point of complete unwillingness to accept there's even a small chance something bad happened.
We should treat all accusations of crime the way you'd likely respond to Jeff after the break in. "Bloody hell, I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you - have you told the police? Would you like to use my phone/would you like a lift to the police station. Are you okay? Etc""Fine. Do that absolutely. But never forget that the accused is innocent until proven guilty also | |||
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Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat"My son is 22 and autistic and his comical wit and timing are bang on. He is very much on the ball with social media current beefs and issues. | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation.
Im sure it is.
But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions
Indeed. However I rarely hear "but are they telling the truth?" around nonsexual crimes in the same way. Fear of being disbelieved is one of the biggest reasons why much sex crime is never reported, therefore not prosecuted. Police must lend credence to an accusation (i.e believe a crime may well have taken place) to arrest someone and question them. They must have a decent amount of evidence (in the UK at least) to justify holding someone beyond the usual period for initial questioning.
I doubt very much that the Romanian police arrested him if they lacked suitable evidence that a crime is likely to have happened, nor would a judge authorise extended detention in the absence of evidence.
Of course, his lawyer will contest the detention, because they'd be a shit lawyer who just said "yeah, keep my client as long as you like....."
Im not quite sure what youre trying to achieve...would you rather non sexual crimes were also views in the shoddy manner you believe sexual crimes are, just to balance it out?
No. I'd rather people stopped openly questioning the authenticity of people reporting sex crimes.
If your neighbour came and told you they'd been burgled, would you say "yeah, but have you REALLY been burgled? Are you sure? Might you have accidentally chucked all of your valuables in the bin? Could your kids have sold your worldly goods on eBay? Come on now, Jeff!!! Tell me the truth!!"
Probably not. But this is what happens when people say they have been sexually assaulted. Their report of a crime occuring is openly questioned, sometimes to the point of complete unwillingness to accept there's even a small chance something bad happened.
We should treat all accusations of crime the way you'd likely respond to Jeff after the break in. "Bloody hell, I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you - have you told the police? Would you like to use my phone/would you like a lift to the police station. Are you okay? Etc"
Fine. Do that absolutely. But never forget that the accused is innocent until proven guilty also"On the point discussed immediately above... It seems to me that no one has questioned the reliability or honesty of people who make accusations about coercion into sex more than they do with non sexual crimes. It seems to me that some err with caution until verdicts are reached that are upheld with solid evidence and some don't. Since it was announced that he had been taken into custody pending investigation people have read and quoted what hasn't happened and seem quite okay with continually repeating it as truth and embedding it into the psyche of those without the ability to read for clarity or check facts. Very rarely are people arrested for nothing but i'm happy to wait. The cynic in me says he'll be done for money laundering if they can gather the evidence in 30 days and make it stick. Authorities are always more interested in money crime than people crime - especially crime against women. The sex trafficking accusations will be a smoke screen to get into his house and accounts...... I realise this is speculation and i'll be first to put my hands up high if the sex charges stick. Either way ....... I can wait. | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat
Wow, that's some sweeping generalisations right there.
There are plenty of examples of people who are on the spectrum who are insightful and funny - Dan Akroyd and Anthony Hopkins straight off the top of my head.
Most people who are passionate and single minded are on the spectrum. Having spoken to her in person (due to my job) that is very much what she is like, genuinely funny, suppose it's easier to develop that kind of personality when so many idiots hate you.
I very much doubt anyone hates her. I would imagine most people just think shes a mouthpiece to be ridiculed and then ignored "To a Tate supporter like you, maybe. To a lot of others, including the younger generation, she's a standard bearer for trying to face climate change | |||
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"Her parents run her twitter account... She must be the only 19 year old in the world to allow their parents to run their social media
Hardly Not many 19yr olds like her are there. She's very autistic, I doubt she or others like her have such insightful and mature wit, straight of the bat
Wow, that's some sweeping generalisations right there.
There are plenty of examples of people who are on the spectrum who are insightful and funny - Dan Akroyd and Anthony Hopkins straight off the top of my head.
Most people who are passionate and single minded are on the spectrum. Having spoken to her in person (due to my job) that is very much what she is like, genuinely funny, suppose it's easier to develop that kind of personality when so many idiots hate you.
I very much doubt anyone hates her. I would imagine most people just think shes a mouthpiece to be ridiculed and then ignored
To a Tate supporter like you, maybe. To a lot of others, including the younger generation, she's a standard bearer for trying to face climate change "Im not sure where youre getting that im a 'tate supporter' from exactly? | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
They're not.
All crimes are treated in the same manner, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
As mentioned above, a similar accusation was made previously that turned out to be spurious. Further reminder if needed that we should always let the justice system to take its natural course before jumping to any conclusions
The previous "accusation" was that a film surfaced while Tate was in the Big Brother house, which showed him hitting a woman with a belt and telling her to count the bruises. He states the film was made with consent. I've read conflicting information about whether the woman in the video has explicitly stated there was consent. In any case, no criminal complaint was made by the woman in the video, so no criminal investigation was ever opened. This is manifestly different to the current situation.
Im sure it is.
But the point being is that the system should be allowed to run its course before making assumptions
Indeed. However I rarely hear "but are they telling the truth?" around nonsexual crimes in the same way. Fear of being disbelieved is one of the biggest reasons why much sex crime is never reported, therefore not prosecuted. Police must lend credence to an accusation (i.e believe a crime may well have taken place) to arrest someone and question them. They must have a decent amount of evidence (in the UK at least) to justify holding someone beyond the usual period for initial questioning.
I doubt very much that the Romanian police arrested him if they lacked suitable evidence that a crime is likely to have happened, nor would a judge authorise extended detention in the absence of evidence.
Of course, his lawyer will contest the detention, because they'd be a shit lawyer who just said "yeah, keep my client as long as you like....."
Im not quite sure what youre trying to achieve...would you rather non sexual crimes were also views in the shoddy manner you believe sexual crimes are, just to balance it out?
No. I'd rather people stopped openly questioning the authenticity of people reporting sex crimes.
If your neighbour came and told you they'd been burgled, would you say "yeah, but have you REALLY been burgled? Are you sure? Might you have accidentally chucked all of your valuables in the bin? Could your kids have sold your worldly goods on eBay? Come on now, Jeff!!! Tell me the truth!!"
Probably not. But this is what happens when people say they have been sexually assaulted. Their report of a crime occuring is openly questioned, sometimes to the point of complete unwillingness to accept there's even a small chance something bad happened.
We should treat all accusations of crime the way you'd likely respond to Jeff after the break in. "Bloody hell, I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you - have you told the police? Would you like to use my phone/would you like a lift to the police station. Are you okay? Etc"
Fine. Do that absolutely. But never forget that the accused is innocent until proven guilty also
On the point discussed immediately above...
It seems to me that no one has questioned the reliability or honesty of people who make accusations about coercion into sex more than they do with non sexual crimes.
It seems to me that some err with caution until verdicts are reached that are upheld with solid evidence and some don't.
Since it was announced that he had been taken into custody pending investigation people have read and quoted what hasn't happened and seem quite okay with continually repeating it as truth and embedding it into the psyche of those without the ability to read for clarity or check facts.
Very rarely are people arrested for nothing but i'm happy to wait.
The cynic in me says he'll be done for money laundering if they can gather the evidence in 30 days and make it stick.
Authorities are always more interested in money crime than people crime - especially crime against women.
The sex trafficking accusations will be a smoke screen to get into his house and accounts......
I realise this is speculation and i'll be first to put my hands up high if the sex charges stick.
Either way ....... I can wait.
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"I very much doubt anyone hates her. I would imagine most people just think shes a mouthpiece to be ridiculed and then ignored If you very much doubt that then you are simply not paying attention." I have watched some recent videos from him. Have you? | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation..."Nail on head. And notice it’s whether she’s telling the truth, not whether or not he did it. | |||
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"You seem to be definitely out of touch. Greta has been in international press since she was a young teenager. Tate, has been heavily popular on social media for the past 12 months. Well its very possible I'm out of touch, as I usually don't watch a lot of television or follow people on social media who aren't occupying spaces I'm particularly interested in. That said I don't recall anyone in real life ever mentioning either of their names in general conversation. I do have friends & a job etc... Ask anybody in a pub or your work place and say What do you think of Andrew Tate . And you’ll get a gaggle of comments . " Really? I (Mr) have heard both names but as much as I know is Greta is a climate change activist and Tate is controversial. Beyond that I have no opinion on either of them. I know nothing about them nor have I any interest in them. | |||
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"Seriously guys, just get laid already and chill. " Quick, flash your boobs, that will distract some of them. Seriously, i cant believe this is still going on!!! Only time will tell who is right or wrong. | |||
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"Seriously guys, just get laid already and chill. Quick, flash your boobs, that will distract some of them. Seriously, i cant believe this is still going on!!! Only time will tell who is right or wrong. " I just read the latest I could find. Not looking good re the charges but still very much teflon. | |||
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"I don't entirely support Tate. But let's see tye evidence first" Precisely | |||
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"Tate has had his court date today… being held on suspicion of human trafficking and being part of a criminal organisation (money laundering) …. Will be held in prison for another 30 days whilst investigations continue So… shits real then!!! They surely wouldn't be able to hold him for so long without some decent evidence. A Romanian judge has sanctioned the 30 days, so the judge must be following the law/evidence
He had this about a year ago with his ex but it was consensual so this might be a non story too.
His lawyer is objecting the 30 days.
He's a bit of a twat but he doesn't deserve this for laughing at greta.
I don't think the American woman who complained to the Romanian police thought it was consensual
Time will tell whether shes telling the truth or not
Why is it that accusations of crimes relating to the sexual assault of women, are seemingly more readily questioned in terms of truth, than other types of crime? An anecdotal observation...
Nail on head. And notice it’s whether she’s telling the truth, not whether or not he did it. "Because the comment i replied to specifically referenced 'the American woman'. If it had specifically referenced tate doing it then i would have phrased it the other way. Then again you know all this but are just looking for silly point scoring | |||
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"They are both media creations; there are a million people out there with more interesting things to say. Could you name a few of them? Or even one? " Malala Yousafzai | |||
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"I don't entirely support Tate. But let's see tye evidence first Precisely" The evidence required seems to be, lots of people don't like him. | |||
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"I don't entirely support Tate. But let's see tye evidence first Precisely The evidence required seems to be, lots of people don't like him. " It's enough for a fab hanging.... guilty until proven dead | |||
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