FabSwingers.com forum: Can a person change from bad to good?

By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on why they are bad.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

I don't think so no! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think he only changes because he’s scared? Or that he really does think differently?

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

its rare but it can happen,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely yes people can change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

- and from 'good' to 'bad'. It's all relative

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Personality may change somewhat over time, but not greatly so it depends if its a personality trait or something based on life circumstances and influences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely yes people can change "

I believe this. People change all the time, because of life experiences, good or bad.

Imagine being privileged to see what impact your actions okay around you and what it leads to.

If you’re not changing constantly, you do t grow into the best version of yourself.

*disclaimers - Also, some people become cunts.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Absolutely, yes.

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By *rtyIanMan
over a year ago

Gateway to the Beacons

We can change our beliefs, values of course you learnt them and can learn new.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

I think so. We're often quite believing that we can change and improve and yet entertain this idea that others are somehow incapable because we clearly are a cut above. I think that some people can't change, or more... they don't want to.

I also think perception of good and bad varies an awful lot; we're more influenced by our confirmation bias than we're aware.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, people can go either way. Bad to good is rare.

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By *rtyIanMan
over a year ago

Gateway to the Beacons

"I think so. We're often quite believing that we can change and improve and yet entertain this idea that others are somehow incapable because we clearly are a cut above. I think that some people can't change, or more... they don't want to.

I also think perception of good and bad varies an awful lot; we're more influenced by our confirmation bias than we're aware."

That’s the crux of the issue Meli they have to want to change, same as wanting to stop smoking, wanting to lose weight, if the minds already set to not want to you never will.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Three types of people : the mad, the sad and the bad. The bad generally never change, but the other groups do because their circumstances change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think behaviour can change but not fundamental character.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also think perception of good and bad varies an awful lot; we're more influenced by our confirmation bias than we're aware."

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By *rettyflamingoWoman
over a year ago

Where the flamboyance of flamingos live

I would like to think k for some people , yes.

Some beliefs and opinions are deep rooted. I have been trying for yrs to educate and inform a member of my family but they are still firm their beliefs, which is really sad and they display at times a really ugly personality .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to be bad at football...... still am...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. My take on it anyway.

Circumstances can deeply affect people and their behaviour (assuming it's outside influences and not psychological/physiological impacts beyond the individuals control).

For me, I find it distasteful when I hear people comment "You never know what people are going through ", then immediately pass judgement on someone they can't take to based on their own moral code.

There's good and bad in everyone, and circumstances will reflect how it manifests itself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people yes.

Some people no.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

We've all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are...

S.Black

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are...

S.Black"

Well put C, Jung and the shadow side and all that..

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By *weetkitten65Woman
over a year ago

Halifax

It depends on what you mean by been bad...Scrooge saw the light &

changed his ways...

Though I personally don't think people can change. It's someone's personality & if they are programmed that way it's always there.

However saying that there are people who have turned their life around but it takes a lot of hard work mentally.

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By *weetkitten65Woman
over a year ago

Halifax

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By *weetkitten65Woman
over a year ago

Halifax

"I think behaviour can change but not fundamental character. "

Agree

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

For me, I find it distasteful when I hear people comment "You never know what people are going through "..."

I think that's a phrase that's often rolled out by someone to excuse their own shitty behaviour. And it usually only extends one way

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

A little bit of love in your heart can go alone way. Changing is whether you allow that love to grow or let it die.

The mr

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By *mwirralMan
over a year ago

wirral

"I think behaviour can change but not fundamental character.

Agree

2nd that

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

can happen other way round,good to bad eg darth vader

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Depends why they are bad. If they are evil or mentally Ill probably not. But if they are bad because of what life has done to them they can change. But it’s unlikely they would without someone giving them the chance to

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

Yes and from good to bad

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Films are not really reflective of life so I definitely don’t think people can change overnight.

I do think that people can change and grow over time due to changes in their environment but I also think there are some basic traits that are pretty deeply hardwired.

If you are bad because of your environment then I think you can change. If you are bad because of your innate personality then nothing will change that.

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By *xposedInTheSunCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

My wife's a very bad woman, and I hope that never changes.

As others have said there are no wholly good or wholly bad people - we're all on a spectrum. And where we are on that spectrum will depend on circumstances and who we're with, and will change from day to day.

The thing that is almost impossible to change is a person's opinion of whether you're good or bad. Most people like to judge people as wholly good or wholly bad, and will only change their judgement should the person become completely the opposite. Which is impossible.

So the unrealistic thing about Christmas Carol is not that Scrooge changes, but that the Cratchets are so willing to accept that he has.

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By *ORBCouple
over a year ago

Dundalk

I think it all depends on your definition of bad and good.

There are people I know who have done things that I think are vile and are not something I would ever do to anyone else,but in their heads they don't see anything wrong with what they did,they justify it so they were in the right to do it. And no they would never change because they don't and didn't see the issues at all in their actions.

So no I don't believe people can change I just think they may learn to act differently in public than how they do privately. So to look like a better person to others. .Bo.

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By *olex99Man
over a year ago

Hull

It can be done but the person has to want to change

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

Few of us are the person we were 5, 10 or 20 years ago. We all evolve and grow. And some of us make huge changes and become very different people than the people we previously were.

So I di think people have the capacity to change from bad to good.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I would like to think k for some people , yes.

You cannot influence someone attitude or beliefs by informing & educating or debate. The way you support someone like that to think differently is by taking risks and making yourself vulnerable.

Most people don't want to invest in others, it’s hard work & takes a long time & you have to really care about them. They just want to win an argument

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I believe everyone is capable of changing, even monsters. But it wouldn't change my feelings on them depending on what it was they had done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes of course people can.

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Darth vader.....enough said

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By *asha86Couple
over a year ago

walsall

Mr here .. I believe some people can change if they want to but On that note though some people are just twats and cant change.

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

I am not a bad person but when I was younger 20+ I was very aggressive and bad tampered. Wasn't shy of confrontation.

As my kids came along and watching the come into the world I changed and mellowed.

I am a very calm gentle laid back person now unless someone really rattles me

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"Depends on why they are bad.

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Yes, that too. I have an example here, who think that the bulgers brothers could change? Maybe they are not the same now as back then.

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By * kiss like morphineMan
over a year ago

The gravelly bit next to the shed

Gotta love before you hate, you can always love again.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

People can take decisions that affect their behaviour. So, of course they can massively alter their outcomes in life. People need to be motivated to stick with their new paths. Others also need to give them the space and freedom to pursue their new choices

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it

In a game with no rules everything is possible .

The probability? Well is probability…

Someone bad may change to good .

Doesn’t mean I be happy to hang out n forgive for what has been done .

Many people out there convinced time washes everything , things wear off

As we know it doesn’t work always exactly that way …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People's character is there character that doesn't change.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

A leopard doesn’t change its spots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People can take decisions that affect their behaviour. So, of course they can massively alter their outcomes in life. People need to be motivated to stick with their new paths. Others also need to give them the space and freedom to pursue their new choices "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots "

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Depends on why they are bad.

Yes, that too. I have an example here, who think that the bulgers brothers could change? Maybe they are not the same now as back then."

An extreme example shags... I think once we get into the territory of such people, some are beyond redemption. Most people are 'middle of the road' types that sometimes do 'bad' things. They can and do change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots."

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By *esthetic21Man
over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol

I don't believe a truly bad person will ever be anything but that. Having said that I do believe a person can do something/act a certain way and then later on realise they were wrong. It's called growth

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots."

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

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By *esthetic21Man
over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

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he was definitely misunderstood

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Yeah some bad people change, others don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

People can change, but only if they genuinely want to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.

Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I like Patrick Stewart too. Christmas Carol message is as timeless as ever... Good and bad...? Who is to judge? A good person who does bad things sometimes? It's shades of grey and not binary (cue rainbow). But yes of course people can and do change. Sometimes through choice and sometimes through necessity.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Usually an extreme life event or an ultimatum issued by a loved one will force change. The threat of losing a job, death or imprisonment is fine motivation to alter your ways too. It's my experience that people rarely change through self reflection alone

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Nobody changes for more than a week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some do ..some don't ...me ? I will always think that a person will never change their spots..once an asshole..always an asshole..lm with the quote " if a person makes a fool of you once .. Shame on them...if they make a fool out of you twice .. shame on you " as regards the film " Scrooge " ..he didn't change..he became the person he always was from the very start..at the start he was a kind person .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A little bit of love in your heart can go alone way. Changing is whether you allow that love to grow or let it die.

The mr "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Depends on why they are bad.

Yes, that too. I have an example here, who think that the bulgers brothers could change? Maybe they are not the same now as back then."

Perhaps, perhaps not.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.

Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions. "

Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’

If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them

Vladimir Putin

Robert Kocharyan

Heydar Aliyev

Ilham Aliyev

Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Bashar al-Assad

Saddam Hussein

Ali Abdul Saleh

Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Hamid Karzai

Ashraf Ghani

Jiang Zemin

Hu Jintao

Xi Jinping

Kim Jong Il

Kim Jong un

Nguyen Phu Trong

Khamtai Siphandone

Choummaly Sayasone

Bounhang Vorachith

Hun Sen

Prayut Chan-o-cha

Than Shwe

Thein Sein

Aung San Suu Kyi

Hosni Mubarak

Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

Muammar al-Gadaffi

Fayez al-Sarraj

Robert Mugabe

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think people can change.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.

Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.

Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’

If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them

Vladimir Putin

Robert Kocharyan

Heydar Aliyev

Ilham Aliyev

Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Bashar al-Assad

Saddam Hussein

Ali Abdul Saleh

Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Hamid Karzai

Ashraf Ghani

Jiang Zemin

Hu Jintao

Xi Jinping

Kim Jong Il

Kim Jong un

Nguyen Phu Trong

Khamtai Siphandone

Choummaly Sayasone

Bounhang Vorachith

Hun Sen

Prayut Chan-o-cha

Than Shwe

Thein Sein

Aung San Suu Kyi

Hosni Mubarak

Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

Muammar al-Gadaffi

Fayez al-Sarraj

Robert Mugabe"

That's some party guest list.

Where would you put Nelson Mandela or David Ben gurion in the pressure bar of good v bad?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.

Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.

Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’

If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them

Vladimir Putin

Robert Kocharyan

Heydar Aliyev

Ilham Aliyev

Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Bashar al-Assad

Saddam Hussein

Ali Abdul Saleh

Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Hamid Karzai

Ashraf Ghani

Jiang Zemin

Hu Jintao

Xi Jinping

Kim Jong Il

Kim Jong un

Nguyen Phu Trong

Khamtai Siphandone

Choummaly Sayasone

Bounhang Vorachith

Hun Sen

Prayut Chan-o-cha

Than Shwe

Thein Sein

Aung San Suu Kyi

Hosni Mubarak

Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

Muammar al-Gadaffi

Fayez al-Sarraj

Robert Mugabe"

Nelson Mandela. I can see examples of both, which evidences people can change.

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By *each_PittWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

"I don't think so no! X"

Second-ed

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"A leopard doesn’t change its spots

There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.

I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.

If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.

Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.

Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’

If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them

Vladimir Putin

Robert Kocharyan

Heydar Aliyev

Ilham Aliyev

Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Bashar al-Assad

Saddam Hussein

Ali Abdul Saleh

Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

Hamid Karzai

Ashraf Ghani

Jiang Zemin

Hu Jintao

Xi Jinping

Kim Jong Il

Kim Jong un

Nguyen Phu Trong

Khamtai Siphandone

Choummaly Sayasone

Bounhang Vorachith

Hun Sen

Prayut Chan-o-cha

Than Shwe

Thein Sein

Aung San Suu Kyi

Hosni Mubarak

Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

Muammar al-Gadaffi

Fayez al-Sarraj

Robert Mugabe

That's some party guest list.

Where would you put Nelson Mandela or David Ben gurion in the pressure bar of good v bad? "

They’ve not been invited

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Some people I believe are born bad/evil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is bad ?

Are people bad? Or do they just do bad things ?

I suspect many people who do "bad" things are doing what they believe to be "good" things. It's just their moral compass is well off the majority. Or their focus is putting a lot of weight on a smaller group than others.

Even when we do bad stuff we justify it as being okay.

So to that end, I think it is possible in many cases for someone to reassess what is good, or how to weigh up what is good.

I suspect some stuff is vary hard wired. But even then there may be some hope. Eg certain types of sex offenders may be wired differently to us, accept they are "bad" in this sense, and take actions to be "good" despite their urges.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

people can be half bad & half good, help old people half way across a busy road ?

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I believe it's possible but not everyone can be

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our "nature" is formed by our early years experiences, the language used towards us, physical and mental affection, how punishments are administered/explained, the love and affection we're given, how much contact time we have with our parents and siblings.

Our early years experiences are formative and give us a path and pattern to follow.

Often those experiences are what we might view as bad, based on our own moral compass and societal construct.

As we progress into adulthood and are exposed to a different way of being, we might come to realise that the behaviours we exhibit are "bad" and work to improve them.

Someone may sit us down and explain certain actions and behaviours are not acceptable or appropriate.

We can change, if we realise we should and if we want to.

We all change, all the time. Usually without realising it.

The man I am isn't the boy I was.

Winston

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By *erces LetiferMan
over a year ago

Somewhere off the edge of the map... 'ere there be monsters

Yes.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"Usually an extreme life event or an ultimatum issued by a loved one will force change. The threat of losing a job, death or imprisonment is fine motivation to alter your ways too. It's my experience that people rarely change through self reflection alone"
Yes, such life events can also temporarily change a person. I dont think it would be a permanent change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is bad ?

Are people bad? Or do they just do bad things ?

Even when we do bad stuff we justify it as being okay.

So to that end, I think it is possible in many cases for someone to reassess what is good, or how to weigh up what is good.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"A little bit of love in your heart can go alone way. Changing is whether you allow that love to grow or let it die.

The mr

Is that a gravestone or a ninja ? Apologies my eyes are not what they once were

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was once postulated that 10% of people will always do the right thing; 10% of people will always do the wrong thing; and the other 80% of people can go either way.

I think they missed an important factor.

IMHO the 80% can be influenced by two factors:

1) How much they stand to benefit.

2) How great a risk of punishment/consequences.

So basically, at any given time, 90% of people would be willing to screw you over if it benefitted them enough and the risk of being held accountable was low.

And in my personal experience this has proven to be pretty accurate.

Something to think about.

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By *nterblueMan
over a year ago

manchester

"It was once postulated that 10% of people will always do the right thing; 10% of people will always do the wrong thing; and the other 80% of people can go either way.

I think they missed an important factor.

IMHO the 80% can be influenced by two factors:

1) How much they stand to benefit.

2) How great a risk of punishment/consequences.

So basically, at any given time, 90% of people would be willing to screw you over if it benefitted them enough and the risk of being held accountable was low.

And in my personal experience this has proven to be pretty accurate.

Something to think about."

My outlook is that given the opportunity and motivation, most people are capable of most things.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

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. I have seen the Patrick Stewart version of a Christmas Carol and yes it is a good one.However I feel Ross Kemp ( Grant Mitchell from Eastenders ) is also a good one as it’s set in a more modern day it was on yesterday on ITV3. I also believe a person can change from bad to good

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over a year ago

People change all the time.. change is by definition relative so amount of change is difficult to compare.. good bad .. all cyclical .. part of nature .. infinitely variable unlike this modernist world that tries to push digital onto us constantly..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"It was once postulated that 10% of people will always do the right thing; 10% of people will always do the wrong thing; and the other 80% of people can go either way.

I think they missed an important factor.

IMHO the 80% can be influenced by two factors:

1) How much they stand to benefit.

2) How great a risk of punishment/consequences.

So basically, at any given time, 90% of people would be willing to screw you over if it benefitted them enough and the risk of being held accountable was low.

And in my personal experience this has proven to be pretty accurate.

Something to think about."

Something to think about indeed as you've introduced the concept of right / wrong into one of good / bad.... What I think is good or right may not be what you think is good or right... How do we score that?

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

. I have seen the Patrick Stewart version of a Christmas Carol and yes it is a good one.However I feel Ross Kemp ( Grant Mitchell from Eastenders ) is also a good one as it’s set in a more modern day it was on yesterday on ITV3. I also believe a person can change from bad to good "
That is good. I havent seen that version and yes stewarts version is also good, he is a good actor

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

No I don't believe they can it's inherently impossible maybe a career criminal a thief but once you've done bad no turning back

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I read about half way down so if I repeat sommat someone said then apols.....

1. Who decides what is good or bad ? e.g. I may be held as 'bad' in some sections of society and 'good' in others. I might do something 'bad' in one country that isn't held as 'bad' in this country.

I don't believe that nature judges behaviours ......

2. On the idea of people changing.

Of course we change otherwise we'd all still be five years old. Experience changes us, our ideas , motives and behaviours change......

Not one atom of your body is the same as it was last year..... ( roughly )

Environments change us also ....

If life is difficult you will do what you can to survive....... if life is easy you will give your surplus time to others..

None of us live at one end of the line of good and bad.

We shift up and down it from day one.

We are merely animal.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

BTW .......

A Christmas Carol is a story.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"BTW .......

A Christmas Carol is a story."

Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?

b) isn't a green frog?

c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!

My life is a lie!

#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life

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By *ondonFunTimesMan
over a year ago

Hampshire/Surrey

I’d still fuck the buggery out of belle in Muppets Xmas Carol.

"BTW .......

A Christmas Carol is a story.

Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?

b) isn't a green frog?

c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!

My life is a lie!

#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"BTW .......

A Christmas Carol is a story.

Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?

b) isn't a green frog?

c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!

My life is a lie!

#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life "

Okay.... sit down ..... it's time to cross the threshold into adultry ... I mean be a grown up .......

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *ondonFunTimesMan
over a year ago

Hampshire/Surrey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And from good to bad!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think there's a black and white view of what's good and what's bad for people to turn either way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can a wasp sting another wasp?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good and bad is subjective. Everyone has different morals, beliefs and views on what makes a 'good' person so there's no definite answer. But can people change who they are as a person and make up for their mistakes? Yes they can.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
over a year ago

The Big Smoke

People can change…

People are strange…

Some appear good. Some appear bad.

And some on the other hand appear “normal”

I just give everyone a chance. Who am I to judge if they’re good or bad?

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over a year ago

"People can change…

People are strange…

Some appear good. Some appear bad.

And some on the other hand appear “normal”

I just give everyone a chance. Who am I to judge if they’re good or bad?

Some folks just want to fuck

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"Can a wasp sting another wasp?"

They sting themselves when they are injured.

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By *ittlebirdWoman
over a year ago

The Big Smoke

"People can change…

People are strange…

Some appear good. Some appear bad.

And some on the other hand appear “normal”

I just give everyone a chance. Who am I to judge if they’re good or bad?

Some folks just want to fuck "

Yes. I’m sure they do. I may be one of them

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By *adtaffladMan
over a year ago

Rhyl

You can but that wolf is always just under the surface

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"BTW .......

A Christmas Carol is a story.

Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?

b) isn't a green frog?

c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!

My life is a lie!

#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life

Okay.... sit down ..... it's time to cross the threshold into adultry ... I mean be a grown up .......

I'm pretty permanently sat down, Granny

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

I think so,yes. Also that one can change from good to bad ....shit happens and as a result people can do things they thought they never would.

And, good and bad is also subjective.

But, some are just bad no matter what

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By *nselfishpleaserMan
over a year ago

kent

I think so yes, all part of personal improvement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People can most certainly change.

A person will only change from bad to good permanently if their heart is really set on doing do. If it is just a half hearted attempt to get what they want or to placate a person then that change will be fleeting and they will revert to their previous selves within time.

A person can also change from good to bad. This change comes slowly without you noticing at first until it becomes a permanent state and then you fully notice the change.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

Yes, I believe people can change, and do change.

However when I say "people" I do not mean all people.

Some people cannot change.

Either through lack of desire, motivation, circumstance, or a serious mental health issue that cannot be treated and has failed previous repeated treatments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely they can. One of my colleagues who I now consider one of my best friends grew up in care homes in Liverpool so not the best start. He could pick any lock, disable most security systems and steal any car before he was 14. He also could deal with anyone trying to shall we say stop him. Or sexually abuse him. He learned the very hard way how to fight off attackers and avoid arrest.

However, he fell into being a roadie (same as I was) and I guess we were the first "family" almost if you will living in close proximity all over the world. He totally changed his outlook on life and realised his formative years were all wrong.

He is now a father to 3 wonderful kids, a devoted husband, tries to give kids in the same predicament as he was a chance in "apprentice" schemes and I would trust him with my life.

People can change for the better. Not all. Bust some can. He is proof.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

"Absolutely they can. One of my colleagues who I now consider one of my best friends grew up in care homes in Liverpool so not the best start. He could pick any lock, disable most security systems and steal any car before he was 14. He also could deal with anyone trying to shall we say stop him. Or sexually abuse him. He learned the very hard way how to fight off attackers and avoid arrest.

He is now a father to 3 wonderful kids, a devoted husband, tries to give kids in the same predicament as he was a chance in "apprentice" schemes and I would trust him with my life.

People can change for the better. Not all. Bust some can. He is proof. "

This is the kind of shit I was talking about in my post.

Sometimes shit happens and as a consequence we do stuff we rather wouldn't.

Given a chance we would never do them.

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over a year ago

He is now a father to 3 wonderful kids, a devoted husband, tries to give kids in the same predicament as he was a chance in "apprentice" schemes and I would trust him with my life.

People can change for the better. Not all. Bust some can. He is proof.

This is the kind of shit I was talking about in my post.

Sometimes shit happens and as a consequence we do stuff we rather wouldn't.

Given a chance we would never do them."

Absolutely

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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

It’s very similar to moving up to a new level of life all the will power and effort in the world doesn’t help but significant life changing events work. Having a heart attack is still one of the best ways to get healthy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With a little instruction and encouragement… hopefully they can become very good

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

I think it depends upon the scenario and the people involved.

Different people always bring out different aspects of our personality.

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