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"Unfortunately it won't ,but at least he won't be on the streets for quite some time..." I think what I find most upsetting is this man has been in prison before for violent crimes and had one sentence extended for committeing a violent crime while still in prison. | |||
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"Of course it won’t stop it happening again. Human nature for some people is just to be nasty lunatics fullstop. 38 years so he will probably be out on license in 20 I guess Still least they handed him longer than 20 years. Though life should mean life as in terminal " No it's 38 years before he is eligible for parole. | |||
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"Of course it won’t stop it happening again. Human nature for some people is just to be nasty lunatics fullstop. 38 years so he will probably be out on license in 20 I guess Still least they handed him longer than 20 years. Though life should mean life as in terminal No it's 38 years before he is eligible for parole. " Hopefully some dogooder lawyer years later on wont try reduce that for discrimination or some bollocks | |||
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"Of course it won’t stop it happening again. Human nature for some people is just to be nasty lunatics fullstop. 38 years so he will probably be out on license in 20 I guess Still least they handed him longer than 20 years. Though life should mean life as in terminal No it's 38 years before he is eligible for parole. Hopefully some dogooder lawyer years later on wont try reduce that for discrimination or some bollocks " I don't think that's going to happen because even his defence team said he needed to be sentenced for the maximum amount possible. | |||
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"Of course it won’t stop it happening again. Human nature for some people is just to be nasty lunatics fullstop. 38 years so he will probably be out on license in 20 I guess Still least they handed him longer than 20 years. Though life should mean life as in terminal No it's 38 years before he is eligible for parole. Hopefully some dogooder lawyer years later on wont try reduce that for discrimination or some bollocks " Interesting whatifism there. Isvthrre anything to suggest that could happen? | |||
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"The Met Police Commjisoner revealed he has 600 bobbies that he knows are bad eggs but is unable to sack them. He has I think 200 of those cops that he has placed them in non public facing jobs, because they can’t be trusted with the public. When our cops are bad , anyone wander the public are too . " Because there are some bag eggs in the police service does not make this excusable! | |||
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"Very sad story that's all too familiar. Things probably won't change either "This happened very close to where I live and there was a very high Police presence around train and tube stations for a couple of weeks and lots of consultations with local women about what could be done to make them feel safer as of yet none of these have been put into action. | |||
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"The Met Police Commjisoner revealed he has 600 bobbies that he knows are bad eggs but is unable to sack them. He has I think 200 of those cops that he has placed them in non public facing jobs, because they can’t be trusted with the public. When our cops are bad , anyone wander the public are too . Because there are some bag eggs in the police service does not make this excusable!" I wasn’t excusing them. I was making a point the very people we seek safety from can also be dangerous . Ala Wayne Couzens. | |||
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"The documentary earlier this week makes it clear why this won't stop. The sooner that people accept thar sexusl violence doesn't start with r#pe and murder and that it starts with men constantly sexualising women (which we see regularly on this forum, the liz truss threads in particular) and harassing women the better. We have a huge societal problem with the way men view women and thrvend point are tragically people like this. Heartbreaking" Who in society are more open to change ?? Those who are woke or those against being woke? | |||
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"The Met Police Commjisoner revealed he has 600 bobbies that he knows are bad eggs but is unable to sack them. He has I think 200 of those cops that he has placed them in non public facing jobs, because they can’t be trusted with the public. When our cops are bad , anyone wander the public are too . " Your numbers are a bit off. There's 625 cases being investigated and currently 500 met officers on restricted duties or suspended. He's requested that changes are made to make it quicker to remove those not fit for duty but has never said he's 'unable to sack' anyone. Given the police are made up from members of the general population and plenty of the general public lic are arseholes of course there will be bad eggs. Same as there will be in any job. But I struggle to see any reasoning as to why there's an argument that bad cops make anyone else bad? On the subject of the OP - I think there are huge problems in the criminal justice system allowing people guilty of serious assaults and crimes to be released and not monitored. Some really should be in for life. And some offenders aren't taken seriously enough when alarm bells should be ringing loud and clear after incidents are reported. Too often people are only taken seriously after extreme violence has taken place or as in this case, someone has died. A | |||
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"Zara Aleena was murdered last year simply because she walked home after a night out. The man who killed her has just been sentenced to a minimum of 38 years in prison and whilst I believe this is the correct sentence I doubt it will stop this happening again. " Bring back hanging. Monsters don't deserve to live. | |||
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"The Met Police Commjisoner revealed he has 600 bobbies that he knows are bad eggs but is unable to sack them. He has I think 200 of those cops that he has placed them in non public facing jobs, because they can’t be trusted with the public. When our cops are bad , anyone wander the public are too . " That's not strictly true. I'm farcfrlm pro police, but they can be sacked but tribunals ahd disciplinary process can be slow. Not all will be found guilty, dismissal isn't the only outcome. Not all of those 600 present a risk. Those on restricted duties don't necessarily present a risk or have done anything wrong but subject to a Professional Standards investigation. It's a lot more 600 who can't be sacked. But equally when a policemen known by his colleagues as 'The r@pist' murders soneone and his colleagues are found to be sending misogynistic messages to each other as a matter of course, the problems in the Met go way deeper than those on disciplinary | |||
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"When our cops are bad , anyone wander the public are too . " You've got this the wrong way around. Police Officers are directly recruited from the communities of the UK and include a cross section of ordinary people. When the public are bad, any wonder the cops are too. Gbat | |||
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"A life for a life I say. Why should us taxpayers pay to keep this man behind bars with heating and 3 meals a day? " Cases like this do make you wonder, especially if there is unequivocal evidence that couldn't possibly be tampered, altered or synthesised proving that the person is guilty of the crime. It is wrong to execute people though. The film Dead Man Walking covers this topic and raises some interesting points. | |||
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"A life for a life I say. Why should us taxpayers pay to keep this man behind bars with heating and 3 meals a day? " Because we can't say murder is wrong and then kill people for murdering, it goes against everything. | |||
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"A life for a life I say. Why should us taxpayers pay to keep this man behind bars with heating and 3 meals a day? " Because we are a civilised country . | |||
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"A life for a life I say. Why should us taxpayers pay to keep this man behind bars with heating and 3 meals a day? Because we can't say murder is wrong and then kill people for murdering, it goes against everything. " It doesn't really. | |||
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"A life for a life I say. Why should us taxpayers pay to keep this man behind bars with heating and 3 meals a day? Because we can't say murder is wrong and then kill people for murdering, it goes against everything. It doesn't really. " So murder is wrong unless the government says it's OK? | |||
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"A life for a life I say. Why should us taxpayers pay to keep this man behind bars with heating and 3 meals a day? Because we can't say murder is wrong and then kill people for murdering, it goes against everything. It doesn't really. So murder is wrong unless the government says it's OK? " Executing murderers and other scum isn't murder. | |||
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"Coward wouldn’t even attend court for sentencing. " Yep.. this is disgusting. They should have dragged him to court by his hair!! | |||
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"The reason the UK ended death penalty. The UK believes that the use of the death penalty undermines human dignity; any miscarriage of justice leading to its imposition is irreversible and irreparable, and there is no conclusive evidence of it working as a deterrent to crime.”" Who cares about it being a deterrent. If a murderer or whatever is executed then he won't do it again. | |||
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"Coward wouldn’t even attend court for sentencing. Yep.. this is disgusting. They should have dragged him to court by his hair!! " He is absolutely disgusting and on that night he followed and tried to attack several women before he attacked Zara. | |||
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"The reason the UK ended death penalty. The UK believes that the use of the death penalty undermines human dignity; any miscarriage of justice leading to its imposition is irreversible and irreparable, and there is no conclusive evidence of it working as a deterrent to crime.” Who cares about it being a deterrent. If a murderer or whatever is executed then he won't do it again. " He won't do it again but countries with the death sentence don't see a drop in murders and the cost of an execution exceeds the cost of a life sentence. So it becomes about vengeance and justice should never be confused with vengeance. And that's before you consider, lethal injection is becoming increasingly difficult to administer ao in America they are reintroducing firing ranges, that's not civilised or dignified and has even less place in a civilised society than the death sentence itself | |||
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"Coward wouldn’t even attend court for sentencing. Yep.. this is disgusting. They should have dragged him to court by his hair!! He is absolutely disgusting and on that night he followed and tried to attack several women before he attacked Zara. " I've just read the Sky news report about it. | |||
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"Coward wouldn’t even attend court for sentencing. Yep.. this is disgusting. They should have dragged him to court by his hair!! He is absolutely disgusting and on that night he followed and tried to attack several women before he attacked Zara. I've just read the Sky news report about it. "It just should never have happened as he was on recall to prison for breaching his licence and had only been released 9 days previously. | |||
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